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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TheGift... on December 24, 2009, 04:47:03 AM
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We all admire bodybuilders from late 80`s and early 90`s with great lines,shredded to the bone and no bloated and extended guts...Today every competitive bodybuilder amater or or pro complains about the costs of "suplements" etc...Does a high PRICE of todays drugs make them complain for example high doses of HGH-how does it cost per I U??A cycle of TEST,DECA and DIANABOL is affordable to everyone I dont know the exact price for that but it`s not too expensive!
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A local hrt guy was charging over $20/iu for german manufactured gh. ::) I decided I could do a lot more with $150 per week.
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bottle of football anavar=$20 to $25
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bottle of football anavar=$20 to $25
$1.70 per 10mg capsule from a compounding pharmacy here. That's an ok price I reckon.
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$1.70 per 10mg capsule from a compounding pharmacy here. That's an ok price I reckon.
that's $170.00 per bottle compared to back in early-mid eighties ($20 to $25)
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that's $170.00 per bottle compared to back in early-mid eighties ($20 to $25)
Yep, that's what I was paying. I tried some higher doses but pretty much hung around 30-40mg/day. Everyone talks about how expensive var is but at my rate of use it wasn't too bad.
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A local hrt guy was charging over $20/iu for german manufactured gh. ::) I decided I could do a lot more with $150 per week.
That means that if you`re 220 pounds or 100kilograms recomended dose for GH is 10 I U and that`s 200$ per day!No wonder if they complain even if you take half of that dose it`s expensive!
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Yep, that's what I was paying. I tried some higher doses but pretty much hung around 30-40mg/day. Everyone talks about how expensive var is but at my rate of use it wasn't too bad.
as long as it is the real deal, can't go wrong...good stuff, good times
I used to do
anavar
maxibolin
deca
equipoise
winstrol-V
hard as a rock and strong too, with decent size, little bloat
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It was alot cheaper,sterile,cleaner,and more potent. The Steroid Control act created the current black market that we have today which put everything undergtound and into the wrong hands. Prohibition doesnt work! It made it even more unsafe and drove the prices up
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A local hrt guy was charging over $20/iu for german manufactured gh. ::) I decided I could do a lot more with $150 per week.
more like $150/100iu kit
fck these doctors
aroudn here some douche was charging my mom $30 A SHOT for both b-12 and hcg
cheapest shit you can buy and they charge an arm and a leg - he totes himself as a 'weight loss physician' ::)
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15-20 milligrams of the original D-Bol from Ciba was more potent than two or three times the amount of the garbage out these days.
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15-20 milligrams of the original D-Bol from Ciba was more potent than two or three times the amount of the garbage out these days.
Agreed
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Depends on who you were going to for your Ass Cycles. I mean if you really wanted a real good ass cleansing back then, it might cost you, especially cycling it off and on. I don't think they developed self ass cycles back then...you want to check fucking machines.com they may have a answer for ass cycles...
Oh, you must have meant AAS cycles ;D
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the little blue CIBA D-bol was $25 for 100. We were buying pre-loaded Primabolan for $.60 in Tijuana and selling it for $6 to some big name guys. If any of you are reading this now, sorry but a we needed to charge extra for waiting in line very nervous at the border.
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"ass cycles"... :-\
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those yesteryear guys were all dbol. and considering it was pretty cheap back then. Dbol creates the best looking muscle but fucks with the head.
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those yesteryear guys were all dbol. and considering it was pretty cheap back then. Dbol creates the best looking muscle but fucks with the head.
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"ass cycles"... :-\
Yeah, he may wanna check with "BayGBM" or any of teh others queens.
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Back then the fake shit was really easy to spot(no as much of it) and the real shit was real...Now that its proven that the Chinese are out to poison the world, it's truly the wild wild west (Russian Roulette style)
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We all admire bodybuilders from late 80`s and early 90`s with great lines,shredded to the bone and no bloated and extended guts...Today every competitive bodybuilder amater or or pro complains about the costs of "suplements" etc...Does a high PRICE of todays drugs make them complain for example high doses of HGH-how does it cost per I U??A cycle of TEST,DECA and DIANABOL is affordable to everyone I dont know the exact price for that but it`s not too expensive!
86 here in Canada THE BEEF was picking up D-bol for $60 per 100 5 mg tabs ( the going price.) It is now $110 for 1000 5 mg tabs. Nice price :)
THE BEEF
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We all admire bodybuilders from late 80`s and early 90`s with great lines,shredded to the bone and no bloated and extended guts...Today every competitive bodybuilder amater or or pro complains about the costs of "suplements" etc...Does a high PRICE of todays drugs make them complain for example high doses of HGH-how does it cost per I U??A cycle of TEST,DECA and DIANABOL is affordable to everyone I dont know the exact price for that but it`s not too expensive!
1981-1985… Real Ciba Dianabol was about $25-30 for a bottle of 100/5 mg tablets. Generic Goldline was about $15-$20. Organon Deca Durabolin was about $25 for a 2cc vial… Generic… never saw any until the 90’s. Searle Anavar was about $25-30 for 100/2.5 mg. tablets. Anadrol-50 was around $40-$45.
A common stack was 2-4 cc’s week of Decca, 4-8 D-bol tabs/day (OR 2 AD-50/day) and 4-8 Anavar/day.
Test, Methandriol, Equipoise, Finijet didn’t really become commonly used until around 1986-89 when the D-bol, Anavar and Deca started going up in price and supplies became sporadic. GH was coming into use around 1984-5 but doses were low.
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1981-1985… Real Ciba Dianabol was about $25-30 for a bottle of 100/5 mg tablets. Generic Goldline was about $15-$20. Organon Deca Durabolin was about $25 for a 2cc vial… Generic… never saw any until the 90’s. Searle Anavar was about $25-30 for 100/2.5 mg. tablets. Anadrol-50 was around $40-$45.
A common stack was 2-4 cc’s week of Decca, 4-8 D-bol tabs/day (OR 2 AD-50/day) and 4-8 Anavar/day.
Test, Methandriol, Equipoise, Finijet didn’t really become commonly used until around 1986-89 when the D-bol, Anavar and Deca started going up in price and supplies became sporadic. GH was coming into use around 1984-5 but doses were low.
The Dr. Kerr, Jekot and Walzack special!
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Everything was different back then, no underground labs, no crappy chinese powders, it was all legit human grade pharma or vet shit.. everything went to shit in the late 90's. There's nothing like legit accurately dosed human grade gear.
From the Vet now a bottle of EQ or Winstrol-V goes for around $250
Anavar is still expensive as FOOOOK..
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The Dr. Kerr, Jekot and Walzack special!
Spoken like someone who was there. Yup! Of course Walzack’s "hot shot" made it all work better. ::)
Kerr was the best.
Everything was different back then, no underground labs, no crappy chinese powders, it was all legit human grade pharma or vet shit.. everything went to shit in the late 90's. There's nothing like legit accurately dosed human grade gear.
From the Vet now a bottle of EQ or Winstrol-V goes for around $250
Anavar is still expensive as FOOOOK.
So true. Nothing was more effective that real Ciba D-bol, real Searle Anavar and real Organan Deca… I don’t know why.
MY HRT guy used to let me mix Test with Deca and it was real Organon deca for a while... then it became unavailable 3-4 years ago. I can't take straight test even at very low doses.
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in the vein.. the stuff is truly very inexpensive to make.. we have all seen various sources selling powders.. literally 1-2 dollars a gram for test.. and that is with a substantial mark up.. so when i see these compound pharms selling test for 100.00 a bottle that is just silly.. recently, a guy i know purchased test 250 amps from manufacture.. literally bought them from the plant.. and he paid 2.00 a amp.. and i am sure the manufacture made a good profit at that.. now that is human grade amps.. so 10 of them will run ya 20.00.. now a 10cc bottle at a compound pharm is 100.00 or more.. complete rip off.. probably less than 10 dollars of material ..
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in the vein.. the stuff is truly very inexpensive to make.. we have all seen various sources selling powders.. literally 1-2 dollars a gram for test.. and that is with a substantial mark up.. so when i see these compound pharms selling test for 100.00 a bottle that is just silly.. recently, a guy i know purchased test 250 amps from manufacture.. literally bought them from the plant.. and he paid 2.00 a amp.. and i am sure the manufacture made a good profit at that.. now that is human grade amps.. so 10 of them will run ya 20.00.. now a 10cc bottle at a compound pharm is 100.00 or more.. complete rip off.. probably less than 10 dollars of material ..
I guess I'm WAY out of the loop. I've not seen powders selling for so cheap nor would I know how to find it, get it or prepare it sanitarily. Got a bad staph infection once in the early 90's from an insanity bottle of Winny-V.
Yes it's much more expensive going the HRT route, limited in what's available but you can sleep and night. I've actually been off this for a few years now. Thinking of starting back up.
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I can't take straight test even at very low doses.
That doesn't make sense. Test is natural hormone to the human body. When I first started HRT I asked my endocrinologist if there was any chance of having an adverse reaction to taking testosterone (it was Upjohn Cyp) and he said your body doesn't know if the test is coming from your testicles and adrenals or from a needle.
What adverse reaction do you get from testosterone?
BTW, I remember the name Walzak? This was when I was training and working at Barlow's gym in Torrance. I over heard Mr. Barlow mentioning Walzak when he was talking to J.J. Marsh whom he was sponsoring at the time and paying a lot of his supplement bills. What I would later learn was typical of bodybuilders Marsh just used, cheated and stole from Mr. Barlow. If I would leave food in the fridge for later when I would work my shift that fuker would just eat it. Nobody could leave food in the fridge when J.J. Marsh was around. He'd just eat it. He was also a very cocky mofo.
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As an aside, I became pretty good friends with Mr. Barlow as he was an English teacher and I was a voracious reader. We'd talk about books and literature and crap like that. Sometimes I'd go to his house to get some old books that he was going to throw out. He was also pretty good friends with Walzak and they would see each other socially. Walzak would sometimes come by the gym and he and Barlow would just walk across the street to this Chinese restaurant. I use to go there with Barlow myself. I figured they would be talking about bodybuilding as Mr. Barlow was getting into judging and promoting his own show (I just remember one). I was shocked when I was hanging out at Redondo Beach taking in the sun with some of my gym buddies when one them made reference to Barlow being gay. Apparently it was pretty common knowledge but I was very naive at the time being only 19 and this whole gay thing wasn't even on my radar. They told me that Walzak was also gay. Then one of the guys tells me, "Dude, if a guy looks like he's never lifted weights a day in his life but is really, really interested in bodybuilding and especially if he really wants to be judge, you can bet your ass that he's gay or bi."
I remember thinking, "Shit. I've been going to the guy's house. Many times. Alone."
I guess this was my first introduction to schmoes.
Mr. Barlow would later die of AIDS.
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That doesn't make sense. Test is natural hormone to the human body. When I first started HRT I asked my endocrinologist if there was any chance of having an adverse reaction to taking testosterone (it was Upjohn Cyp) and he said your body doesn't know if the test is coming from your testicles and adrenals or from a needle.
What adverse reaction do you get from testosterone?
BTW, I remember the name Walzak? This was when I was training and working at Barlow's gym in Torrance. I over heard Mr. Barlow mentioning Walzak when he was talking to J.J. Marsh whom he was sponsoring at the time and paying a lot of his supplement bills. What I would later learn was typical of bodybuilders Marsh just used, cheated and stole from Mr. Barlow. If I would leave food in the fridge for later when I would work my shift that fuker would just eat it. Nobody could leave food in the fridge when J.J. Marsh was around. He'd just eat it. He was also a very cocky mofo.
I think I went to Barlows Gym once to train. Is it up on Western or Crenshaw up near the hill. I do remember seeing it. I had adverse effects from test. I took a cc a day of the Cypionate 200 mg for 6 months straight with no days off. Then I quit and have never taken a thing since. That was in 86'. I didn't take anything else. Back in 83' or 84' I did try d-bol but maybe only a bottle or so. I tried Sustanon 250 but started getting pimples on my back and quit after maybe a month.
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Barlows was behind a shopping complex at the corner of PCH and Anza.
My adverse reaction to Test is SEVERE and I mean SEVERE acne on my back, chest, and shoulders. That was one of the reasons my HRT guy let me mix it with Deca. I figured out I could do 1/2 ml of test a week (yes pretty miniscule dose) IF I broke it up into 2 shots a week of 1/4 ml at a time. If I did it that way
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the little blue CIBA D-bol was $25 for 100. We were buying pre-loaded Primabolan for $.60 in Tijuana and selling it for $6 to some big name guys. If any of you are reading this now, sorry but a we needed to charge extra for waiting in line very nervous at the border.
How come you never did the shit yourself? You say you only did one testosterone cycle. I find it hard to believe you never even tried dbol. Involved in strength sports, sold the stuff, yet never tried it? ???
Edit: missed your next reply. So you did try it. What a surprise. :D
I had adverse effects from test. I took a cc a day of the Cypionate 200 mg for 6 months straight with no days off. Then I quit and have never taken a thing since. That was in 86'. I didn't take anything else. Back in 83' or 84' I did try d-bol but maybe only a bottle or so. I tried Sustanon 250 but started getting pimples on my back and quit after maybe a month.
Come on now, what else did you try. A little Anavar? Primo? Winstrol? :D
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Barlows was behind a shopping complex at the corner of PCH and Anza.
My adverse reaction to Test is SEVERE and I mean SEVERE acne on my back, chest, and shoulders. That was one of the reasons my HRT guy let me mix it with Deca. I figured out I could do 1/2 ml of test a week (yes pretty miniscule dose) IF I broke it up into 2 shots a week of 1/4 ml at a time. If I did it that way
That's really odd, since deca has no real application(s) in the medical community, it's generally used in muscle wasting diseases like AIDS and HIV and for treatement of osteoporosis in women..
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How come you never did the shit yourself? You say you only did one testosterone cycle. I find it hard to believe you never even tried dbol. Involved in strength sports, sold the stuff, yet never tried it? ???
Edit: missed your next reply. So you did try it. What a surprise. :D
Come on now, what else did you try. A little Anavar? Primo? Winstrol? :D
Nope never. Never cared about it. If I did it I would say. It doesn't bother me admitting what I did. I would come forward and say exactly what I did than to have someone come on here to say I am lying and I took all kiknds of shit. I was as strong as anyone in the gym before I ever tried D-bol. And the only reason I did it was because the guy who got me started said it will give me some more muscle. I was around 230 to begin with. The first time I took it I was still playing baseball. The reason I didn't keep playing was because I got up to about 247 and couldn't do shit. Thats when I took up armwrestling. I didn't do shit then for about 2 years till someone told me I gotta do it cause armwrestler does it. So thats when I started doing Test. Didn't need anything else. And in the end I was 100% correct. And I sold it along with another guy who was popular at Gold's Venice and new all the guys and said we could make some good money. So that is why I did that.
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Do not doubt the words of noworries.
Straight shooter. All the way straight shooter.
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That's really odd, since deca has no real application(s) in the medical community, it's generally used in muscle wasting diseases like AIDS and HIV and for treatement of osteoporosis in women..
As I understadn it this is a regular protocal for him since he keeps it in supply. Since it's an "anti-aging" clinic maybe he feels age related muscle loss justifies it.
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in the vein.. the stuff is truly very inexpensive to make.. we have all seen various sources selling powders.. literally 1-2 dollars a gram for test.. and that is with a substantial mark up.. so when i see these compound pharms selling test for 100.00 a bottle that is just silly.. recently, a guy i know purchased test 250 amps from manufacture.. literally bought them from the plant.. and he paid 2.00 a amp.. and i am sure the manufacture made a good profit at that.. now that is human grade amps.. so 10 of them will run ya 20.00.. now a 10cc bottle at a compound pharm is 100.00 or more.. complete rip off.. probably less than 10 dollars of material ..
It's about $4 of material. Stopper,oil,compound,flip cap,and label
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Nope never. Never cared about it. If I did it I would say. It doesn't bother me admitting what I did. I would come forward and say exactly what I did than to have someone come on here to say I am lying and I took all kiknds of shit. I was as strong as anyone in the gym before I ever tried D-bol. And the only reason I did it was because the guy who got me started said it will give me some more muscle. I was around 230 to begin with. The first time I took it I was still playing baseball. The reason I didn't keep playing was because I got up to about 247 and couldn't do shit. Thats when I took up armwrestling. I didn't do shit then for about 2 years till someone told me I gotta do it cause armwrestler does it. So thats when I started doing Test. Didn't need anything else. And in the end I was 100% correct. And I sold it along with another guy who was popular at Gold's Venice and new all the guys and said we could make some good money. So that is why I did that.
I bought some D-bol from you once... don't tell anyone though.
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I bought some D-bol from you once... don't tell anyone though.
Shit I hope we gave you a deal. You know who I was doing this with. The profit margin was pretty damm good. Those were fun times back then and at our work.
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As I understadn it this is a regular protocal for him since he keeps it in supply. Since it's an "anti-aging" clinic maybe he feels age related muscle loss justifies it.
Hey...whatever works ;)
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explain ASS cycle to us please
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explain ASS cycle to us please
they seem to go off topic, the title says about ass cycles.
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they seem to go off topic, the title says about ass cycles.
;D
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are there many HRT clinics in the midwest?
how do you get an appointment?
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Did he say "ASSICLES?"
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in the vein.. the stuff is truly very inexpensive to make.. we have all seen various sources selling powders.. literally 1-2 dollars a gram for test.. and that is with a substantial mark up.. so when i see these compound pharms selling test for 100.00 a bottle that is just silly.. recently, a guy i know purchased test 250 amps from manufacture.. literally bought them from the plant.. and he paid 2.00 a amp.. and i am sure the manufacture made a good profit at that.. now that is human grade amps.. so 10 of them will run ya 20.00.. now a 10cc bottle at a compound pharm is 100.00 or more.. complete rip off.. probably less than 10 dollars of material ..
The problem is, compounding pharmacy's major customers are the HRT clinics that sell the vials as a "package service" with an ungodly markup. Compounding pharmacies sell a vial of test to these clinics for 15-25 dollars, making very little profit. The doctors turn around and sell it for 150-250 dollars a vial. ALL profit, as most of them never even see the vials since they are shipped directly from the pharmacy to the pt. I have no idea how they get away with this. The pharmacy would love to sell you a vial of test for $45 bucks, but the docs who spend 50 grand a week with a pharmacy will not allow it. You walk into the pharmacy, they CAN'T sell it to you for 45 bucks, or else they risk losing millions for dollars of business from the enormous clinics.
Hope this helps.
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WTF is an ass cycle?
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WTF is an ass cycle?
people are talking about hormones,,,,but original poster was talking about clothing for cycles back in the days of leather riding motorcycles
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