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Title: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on December 24, 2009, 01:54:49 PM
Im 14% at the moment and i want to reach 6%, I wil begin to use ehpedrine in a few weeks aswell
This will be my diet


Meal 1: Oatmeal, nuts and raisins

Workout 40-50 minutes

Meal 2: Protein shake (40 grams)

Meal 3: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Meal 4: Protein Shake (40 grams)

Cardio: 30 minutes, high intense

Meal 5: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Is this adequate, how long will it take to reach 6% in your estimation?

You guys always inspire me with your knowledge and expertise  ;)
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Fatpanda on December 24, 2009, 02:32:16 PM
Im 14% at the moment and i want to reach 6%, I wil begin to use ehpedrine in a few weeks aswell
This will be my diet


Meal 1: Oatmeal, nuts and raisins

Workout 40-50 minutes

Meal 2: Protein shake (40 grams)

Meal 3: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Meal 4: Protein Shake (40 grams)

Cardio: 30 minutes, high intense

Meal 5: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Is this adequate, how long will it take to reach 6% in your estimation?

You guys always inspire me with your knowledge and expertise  ;)


protein before your morning workout would be smart. also creatine if possible.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: grktownmuscle on December 24, 2009, 03:18:22 PM
Im 14% at the moment and i want to reach 6%, I wil begin to use ehpedrine in a few weeks aswell
This will be my diet


Meal 1: Oatmeal, nuts and raisins

Workout 40-50 minutes

Meal 2: Protein shake (40 grams)

Meal 3: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Meal 4: Protein Shake (40 grams)

Cardio: 30 minutes, high intense

Meal 5: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Is this adequate, how long will it take to reach 6% in your estimation?

You guys always inspire me with your knowledge and expertise  ;)



dude your only taking in 180g of protein a day, which is cool if you dont want muscle.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: ygbodybuilder10 on December 24, 2009, 03:27:46 PM
are u doing like a keto diet,  why no protein for the first meal
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on December 24, 2009, 04:00:44 PM
are u doing like a keto diet,  why no protein for the first meal

Nope
But what should i eat in the morning?
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: prestige on December 24, 2009, 04:03:47 PM
Eat eggs in the morning like 6 to 8  and half cup of oatmeal  with a piece of fruit
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Saxon on December 24, 2009, 04:13:15 PM
Stir fry, chicken and tuna sounds really unappetising :-X
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Marty Champions on December 24, 2009, 04:15:32 PM
Im 14% at the moment and i want to reach 6%, I wil begin to use ehpedrine in a few weeks aswell
This will be my diet


Meal 1: Oatmeal, nuts and raisins

Workout 40-50 minutes

Meal 2: Protein shake (40 grams)

Meal 3: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Meal 4: Protein Shake (40 grams)

Cardio: 30 minutes, high intense

Meal 5: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Is this adequate, how long will it take to reach 6% in your estimation?

You guys always inspire me with your knowledge and expertise  ;)


if you do this you will get pretty freakin hungry, but a quick fix to leans though but a quick rebound too
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Mr Nobody on December 24, 2009, 05:13:32 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: andreisdaman on December 24, 2009, 05:36:38 PM
bump
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: calfzilla on December 24, 2009, 06:01:32 PM
Maybe throw in some long grain rice unless you want to stay in ketosis. 
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: polychronopolous on December 24, 2009, 06:06:56 PM
;)



Good performance.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Spoony Luv on December 24, 2009, 06:15:12 PM
that diet will easily get you to 6-8%...However after a month of this diet, I would consider cycling some higher carb days in...Like someone mentioned, you will be clawing at the walls with hunger on this...However sometimes abusing your brain can be quite the journey...
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Blockhead on December 24, 2009, 07:32:12 PM


 He's getting a little protein in his first meal and I am starting to rethink how necessary BOATLOADS of protein actually is when wanting to add muscle.


 This year. Dec-24th, 2009 I am at my strongest. I probably eat 2-3 x's a day and lucky to get 40g each meal. I rarely ever drink shakes and I keep growing.


 Think about dudes in prison who are making amazing strength gains and breaking through plateaus and let's examine their diets of starchy carbs and mystery meat.


 To get to 'super-ripped' status it's a matter of cardio and a cocktail of t3, cytomel, clenbuterol and eca around the clock.



 - Block!
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on December 25, 2009, 05:26:38 AM
if you do this you will get pretty freakin hungry, but a quick fix to leans though but a quick rebound too

yeh, thats what im afraid off
Everytime i get fairly lean I always put  back the weight 10x faster than it took me to lose it
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on December 25, 2009, 05:36:44 AM

 He's getting a little protein in his first meal and I am starting to rethink how necessary BOATLOADS of protein actually is when wanting to add muscle.


 This year. Dec-24th, 2009 I am at my strongest. I probably eat 2-3 x's a day and lucky to get 40g each meal. I rarely ever drink shakes and I keep growing.
 - Block!

Said it a few times lately (no-one reads my posts anyway), but i always had high ALT and AST eating even 1.25 grams of protein per pound of BW. Dropped it to around 150 grams a day, and boom both levels in the normal range, never had that before.


A high ALT is telling you something. The body isn't digesting it. It's a waste. My first two years training i gained a lot of strenth, yes everyone should but even eating 5 meals a day i wasn't getting the protein i did in the future.

We are all sucked in to believing we need it, and are too scared to drop it. I experiement with things and thought i'd never tried lowering the protein that 'low' lets see what happens. Consistenty or getting it in when needed is the key you don't need stupid amounts.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on December 25, 2009, 05:42:27 AM
I would add eggs and egg yolks at breakfast.

I would also eat real foods (steak and salmon) and no shakes but that's me i think they are pointless.

I would eat some carbs in meals 2 and 3. I would cycle carbs even from the beginning so your metabilism never gets used to it, i always liked a high, medium and low day, cheat meal on the 6th day (high carb day).

Eating carbs only for breakfast and doing this diet you will lose weight but maybe too much muscle. Same with the fat burners, cycle your carbs and only use the fat burners when you hit lower BF and it gets harder to budge, that way your body isn't used to them and they work better when you want them too. I personally wouldn't use them unless you are competiting or need to get down that far but that's me.

Im 14% at the moment and i want to reach 6%, I wil begin to use ehpedrine in a few weeks aswell
This will be my diet


Meal 1: Oatmeal, nuts and raisins

Workout 40-50 minutes

Meal 2: Protein shake (40 grams)

Meal 3: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Meal 4: Protein Shake (40 grams)

Cardio: 30 minutes, high intense

Meal 5: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Is this adequate, how long will it take to reach 6% in your estimation?

You guys always inspire me with your knowledge and expertise  ;)

Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: wes on December 25, 2009, 05:56:49 AM
Tough diet to stick to but it`ll get you ripped:

Meal 1:
9 eggwhites + 1 whole egg  scrambled in non-fat cooking spray
1 cup of oatmeal ( no milk,use artificial sweetener)
16 oz. water

Meal 2:
1 can water packed tuna
1 baked potato (butter spray)
lg. salad with vinegar and olive oil dressing
16 oz. water

Meal 3:
6 whole eggs
16 oz. water

Meal 4:
6-8 oz. skinless chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
1 cup green beans
g. salad with vinegar and olive oil dressing
16 oz. water

Meal 5:
1 can water packed tuna
1 baked potato (butter spray)
16 oz. water

Meal 6:
1 cup non-fat cottage cheese
1 cup vegies
16 oz. water

Cycle your carbs by doing 3 low days followed by two high days,and drink as much water as possible between meals.

The above is just a sample,bodyweight and activity levels come into play but it`ll get you ripped to shreds.

Some tweaking will be needed as time goes on.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Tapeworm on December 25, 2009, 06:46:45 AM
(no-one reads my posts anyway)

Solid post... whoever you are, noob.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on December 25, 2009, 10:05:54 AM
I would add eggs and egg yolks at breakfast.

I would also eat real foods (steak and salmon) and no shakes but that's me i think they are pointless.

I would eat some carbs in meals 2 and 3. I would cycle carbs even from the beginning so your metabilism never gets used to it, i always liked a high, medium and low day, cheat meal on the 6th day (high carb day).

Eating carbs only for breakfast and doing this diet you will lose weight but maybe too much muscle. Same with the fat burners, cycle your carbs and only use the fat burners when you hit lower BF and it gets harder to budge, that way your body isn't used to them and they work better when you want them too. I personally wouldn't use them unless you are competiting or need to get down that far but that's me.


but dont the stiry fry (vegetables) count as carbs?
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on December 25, 2009, 02:09:13 PM
but dont the stiry fry (vegetables) count as carbs?

Vegtables have carbs but it is a very low amount. You should eat vegtables anyway, but while dieting i found them great because it did help a bit with hunger pains (having something of volume to eat that wasn't taking up many calories).

But still eat carbs. Maybe do it, high day carbs for the first 4 meals, next day 3 meals, last day 2 meals. Maybe a small amount like 30 grams a meal, 60 or more for breakfast. Maybe split up the nuts too into a few different meals.

When you cycle it like that, by the time you hit the high carb day your body just soaks all the carbs up because of how low your levels are (especially if you are doing some cardio). Eating higher carbs on that day just speeds the metabilism up which is what you want.

If you starve yourself of carbs you will get too hungrey and maybe overcompensate with protein, when really your body cannot process excess protein at once. I remember one message board owner who's opinion was if you are losing muscle while dieting hard then eat more protein  ::).
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: wavelength on December 25, 2009, 05:55:43 PM
Protein is high enough IMO, ephedrin is not necessary, reduce calories only to a point where you can still maintain most of your strength in the gym. That's all.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: gordiano on December 25, 2009, 06:04:51 PM
Tough diet to stick to but it`ll get you ripped:

Meal 1:
9 eggwhites + 1 whole egg  scrambled in non-fat cooking spray
1 cup of oatmeal ( no milk,use artificial sweetener)
16 oz. water

Meal 2:
1 can water packed tuna
1 baked potato (butter spray)
lg. salad with vinegar and olive oil dressing
16 oz. water

Meal 3:
6 whole eggs
16 oz. water

Meal 4:
6-8 oz. skinless chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
1 cup green beans
g. salad with vinegar and olive oil dressing
16 oz. water

Meal 5:
1 can water packed tuna
1 baked potato (butter spray)
16 oz. water

Meal 6:
1 cup non-fat cottage cheese
1 cup vegies
16 oz. water

Cycle your carbs by doing 3 low days followed by two high days,and drink as much water as possible between meals.

The above is just a sample,bodyweight and activity levels come into play but it`ll get you ripped to shreds.

Some tweaking will be needed as time goes on.

So on low carb days, what and how much should be skipped/taken out? Should anything else increase? Fats? Proteins?
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 25, 2009, 06:09:32 PM
Tough diet to stick to but it`ll get you ripped:

Meal 1:
9 eggwhites + 1 whole egg  scrambled in non-fat cooking spray
1 cup of oatmeal ( no milk,use artificial sweetener)
16 oz. water

Meal 2:
1 can water packed tuna
1 baked potato (butter spray)
lg. salad with vinegar and olive oil dressing
16 oz. water

Meal 3:
6 whole eggs
16 oz. water

Meal 4:
6-8 oz. skinless chicken breast
1 cup brown rice
1 cup green beans
g. salad with vinegar and olive oil dressing
16 oz. water

Meal 5:
1 can water packed tuna
1 baked potato (butter spray)
16 oz. water

Meal 6:
1 cup non-fat cottage cheese
1 cup vegies
16 oz. water

Cycle your carbs by doing 3 low days followed by two high days,and drink as much water as possible between meals.

The above is just a sample,bodyweight and activity levels come into play but it`ll get you ripped to shreds.

Some tweaking will be needed as time goes on.

Listen to this man.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on December 25, 2009, 06:10:41 PM
good stuff guys, ill bookmark this page for future reference
cheers
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 25, 2009, 08:25:04 PM
Im 14% at the moment and i want to reach 6%, I wil begin to use ehpedrine in a few weeks aswell
This will be my diet


Meal 1: Oatmeal, nuts and raisins

Workout 40-50 minutes

Meal 2: Protein shake (40 grams)

Meal 3: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Meal 4: Protein Shake (40 grams)

Cardio: 30 minutes, high intense

Meal 5: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Is this adequate, how long will it take to reach 6% in your estimation?

You guys always inspire me with your knowledge and expertise  ;)


do cardio on empty stomach!!..
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 25, 2009, 11:16:58 PM
do cardio on empty stomach!!..

Horseshit......another fitness gimmick.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: calfzilla on December 26, 2009, 11:05:10 AM
Horseshit......another fitness gimmick.
I agree.  I have tried this and I just don't have enough energy for it. 
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 26, 2009, 03:36:46 PM
I agree.  I have tried this and I just don't have enough energy for it. 

we are different my friend ;) what doesnt work for you may work for others!!..
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Coach is Back! on December 26, 2009, 05:01:48 PM
we are different my friend ;) what doesnt work for you may work for others!!..

MMmm, thats something that generally works for everyone. If it doesn't work, you're doing something wrong. Conditioning should always be done after training.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on December 26, 2009, 06:33:42 PM
MMmm, thats something that generally works for everyone. If it doesn't work, you're doing something wrong. Conditioning should always be done after training.

i myself never do cardio on an empty stomach, i prefer to do it on non-lifting days at no certain time..

if you have to do cardio on a lifting day yes it's better to do it after your workout just to keep your full energy for the iron!!..
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: Method101 on December 26, 2009, 07:18:38 PM
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Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: PJim on December 26, 2009, 09:02:30 PM
You should seriously read up on TA and wave's principles.
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on December 27, 2009, 06:47:34 AM
You should seriously read up on TA and wave's principles.

I know them and i have tried it before
One meal a day and a few protein shakes dont do it for me, i just end up overeating

Atleast veggies keep me full and i can get in more protein this way
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: andreisdaman on December 27, 2009, 03:24:25 PM
do cardio on empty stomach!!..

yes..this works better than anything.....plus gotta watch your diet...you'll drop pounds in no time..worked big time for me
Title: Re: Help me on my diet, give me your expertise
Post by: peroni on December 27, 2009, 04:09:10 PM
Im 14% at the moment and i want to reach 6%, I wil begin to use ehpedrine in a few weeks aswell
This will be my diet


Meal 1: Oatmeal, nuts and raisins

Workout 40-50 minutes

Meal 2: Protein shake (40 grams)

Meal 3: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Meal 4: Protein Shake (40 grams)

Cardio: 30 minutes, high intense

Meal 5: Stir fry, Chicken and Tuna (40-50 grams of protein)

Is this adequate, how long will it take to reach 6% in your estimation?

You guys always inspire me with your knowledge and expertise  ;)


You need to include your age, experience (for responsiveness), what supps/drugs you take, how much you sleep, and what your exercise program, incl cardio look like