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Title: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: dj181 on December 26, 2009, 12:10:28 PM
Discuss.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: benchmstr on December 26, 2009, 12:15:23 PM
it depends...how much alcohol are we talking about?

bench
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Bossa on December 26, 2009, 12:16:09 PM
I hear "brubon" is really good post workout
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Red Hook on December 26, 2009, 12:21:03 PM
I usually pour a 5th of Vodka on my cock to kill the germs, I have been to mexico several times and so far I have a clean bill of health.

so I would say that alcohol is good for you.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: benchmstr on December 26, 2009, 12:22:06 PM
I usually pour a 5th of Vodka on my cock to kill the germs, I have been to mexico several times and so far I have a clean bill of health.

so I would say that alcohol is good for you.

agreed....fool proof method.

bench
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: dj181 on December 26, 2009, 12:23:25 PM
Say 7 or 8 beers once a week.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: nolotil on December 26, 2009, 12:24:34 PM
Discuss.
depends on how much you drink.

but yes alcohol consumtion can impact  protein synthesis negatively.

but obviously alot of people have gotten results despite getting drunk during weekends.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Saxon on December 26, 2009, 12:27:17 PM
I find it hard to train when I've had 10 pints of Guinness the night before.... :D
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Alex23 on December 26, 2009, 12:28:37 PM
Subject has been beaten to death.

Short answer is yes and no.  ;D
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: BIG ACH on December 26, 2009, 12:31:24 PM

I read once that excessive alcohol consumption can hinder the production of IGF-1 (Insulin Growth Factor 1) which will thus impact muscle development.



I am no expert, and to be honest I read this in one of the bodybuilding magazines (can't remember which one), so dunno about the truth to it!  I'm sure a few drinks here and there won't harm you though!
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: wavelength on December 26, 2009, 12:37:06 PM
Short answer is no.
http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny/a_muscleheads_guide_to_alcohol_1
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Alex23 on December 26, 2009, 12:45:31 PM
Short answer is no.
http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sex_news_sports_funny/a_muscleheads_guide_to_alcohol_1

Good article wavelength.

When I drink too much, I can't get a pump and my sexdrive sucks...

2-3 drinks a day no problem... Guidoing around  5 nights a week, problem.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: wavelength on December 26, 2009, 12:48:39 PM
Good article wavelength.

When I drink too much, I can't get a pump and my sexdrive sucks...

2-3 drinks a day no problem... Guidoing around  5 nights a week, problem.

Yeah of course, as stated in the article, as soon as it interferes with your training, it's a problem.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Alex23 on December 26, 2009, 12:56:31 PM
I read once that excessive alcohol consumption can hinder the production of IGF-1 (Insulin Growth Factor 1) which will thus impact muscle development.

I am no expert, and to be honest I read this in one of the bodybuilding magazines (can't remember which one), so dunno about the truth to it!  I'm sure a few drinks here and there won't harm you though!

I read somewhere that alcohol consumption also prevent you from assimilating certain aminos properly.. creatine being one of them...  

Big Ron Coleman allways has a half empty bottle of white wine in the fridge... maybe it's the same one since 1998 though
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: 2Thick on December 26, 2009, 05:56:27 PM
It doesn't take a PhD to figure out that excess alcohol can inhibit anabolic processes and put you in a catabolic state.  ;D

And I do luvs to get drunk here and there, even though I know it ain't good for my bodybuilding. It's like the forbidden fruit... :-X
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Mussolini on December 26, 2009, 06:41:54 PM
I dont think alchohol itself impaires gains. Arnold and Franco were regular drinkers. I made the best gains of my like when I was drinking 8-10 beers a day. Drinking and not taking measures to prevent a hang over are certainly detremental to gains.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Alex23 on December 26, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
I dont think alchohol itself impaires gains. Arnold and Franco were regular drinkers. I made the best gains of my like when I was drinking 8-10 beers a day. Drinking and not taking measures to prevent a hang over are certainly detremental to gains.

QFT.
That's a real man right there.

Tool: "Arnold, do you drink milk?"
Arnold: "Milk is for babies. Men drink beer".
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Mussolini on December 26, 2009, 07:33:49 PM
QFT.
That's a real man right there.

Tool: "Arnold, do you drink milk?"
Arnold: "Milk is for babies. Men drink beer".


I should point out that I went to a 30 day rehab and now only drink 2-3 beers a day.

The whole addcition is a disease concept is bullshit. Since I broke up with my ex girl life is much more tranquil and there is no need to be hammered by the time she got home ;D

Leeding a peaceful and tranquil  life is better addiction treatment than any 12 step programs or rehab centers.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: buffdnet on December 26, 2009, 08:56:59 PM
Quote
Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
no more than smoking impairs lung cancer (http://www.freejunknstuff.com/hom.gif)
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: dyslexic on December 26, 2009, 09:05:03 PM
Alcohol sugar contains more calories gram per gram than normal carbs - and a little less than fat. Only about five per cent of alcohol calories ever become fat. This is because the body uses the alcohol as energy-all the while leaving fat where it is. Why? Because alcohol is broken down by the liver, first into a substance called acetaldehyde, and then into acetate, which is the substance that prevents fat from being burned as energy.

Alcohol increases appetite by stimulating the liver to convert stored sugar (glycogen) into glucose (blood sugar). The excess glucose stimulates insulin production, and insulin in turn stimulates the powerful fat storage hormone lipoprotein lipase (LPL), which is responsible for “beer-belly syndrome” by directing fat to the abdominal cavity for storage.


Alcohol also expands your waistline by causing a rise in the muscle-wasting stress hormone cortisol. Cortisol breaks down muscle tissue-causing a decline in your overall ability to burn calories. One single night of drinking can raise cortisol for up to 24 hours.


The reason we experience the dreaded “hangover” is due to the substance acetaldehyde. As alcohol is metabolized into acetate, some of the acetaldehyde escapes the breakdown and is released into the bloodstream. Acetaldehyde happens to be a very potent neurotoxin that causes a great deal of free-radical damage, and the morning-after headache.

Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: 240 is Back on December 26, 2009, 09:40:14 PM
I like red wine a lot, but I always hold muscle weight better and stay better hydrated when I don't drink for a week or two.

When I drink 2-3 glasses, 4 times a week, I feel like garbage.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: calfzilla on December 26, 2009, 09:55:40 PM
yes
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Alex23 on December 26, 2009, 10:58:44 PM
yes

Hi CamelJockey.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Tapeworm on December 26, 2009, 11:08:42 PM
Alcohol sugar contains more calories gram per gram than normal carbs - and a little less than fat. Only about five per cent of alcohol calories ever become fat. This is because the body uses the alcohol as energy-all the while leaving fat where it is. Why? Because alcohol is broken down by the liver, first into a substance called acetaldehyde, and then into acetate, which is the substance that prevents fat from being burned as energy.

Alcohol increases appetite by stimulating the liver to convert stored sugar (glycogen) into glucose (blood sugar). The excess glucose stimulates insulin production, and insulin in turn stimulates the powerful fat storage hormone lipoprotein lipase (LPL), which is responsible for “beer-belly syndrome” by directing fat to the abdominal cavity for storage.


Alcohol also expands your waistline by causing a rise in the muscle-wasting stress hormone cortisol. Cortisol breaks down muscle tissue-causing a decline in your overall ability to burn calories. One single night of drinking can raise cortisol for up to 24 hours.


The reason we experience the dreaded “hangover” is due to the substance acetaldehyde. As alcohol is metabolized into acetate, some of the acetaldehyde escapes the breakdown and is released into the bloodstream. Acetaldehyde happens to be a very potent neurotoxin that causes a great deal of free-radical damage, and the morning-after headache.



Check out the big brain on Brett!  Good stuff!  8)
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: tbombz on December 27, 2009, 01:39:11 AM
if your a girly man and lift like a pussy, then maybe getting drunk a few times wil help you. cuz maybe youll learn to be aggressive and start lifting hard for the first time
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Determinator on December 27, 2009, 03:36:27 AM
If you have been training more than, say 3 years, it doesn't matter, as you don't grow any muscle after that time. One may 'convince' oneself that they are gaining, but in reality they are not. Hence, whatever you eat/drink etc don't make one iota of difference. Of course you will always have the fantasists such as Kiwiol with his fantasy island 80 b continuous quality gains, but back in the land of reality, that don't happen.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: spinnis on December 27, 2009, 04:03:28 AM
stop with these fucking threads
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: nolotil on December 27, 2009, 03:10:45 PM
If you have been training more than, say 3 years, it doesn't matter, as you don't grow any muscle after that time. One may 'convince' oneself that they are gaining, but in reality they are not. Hence, whatever you eat/drink etc don't make one iota of difference. Of course you will always have the fantasists such as Kiwiol with his fantasy island 80 b continuous quality gains, but back in the land of reality, that don't happen.

not true of course you can grow muscle after working out mroe than 3 years..if training has been high quality yes growth will slow down significantly if you train naturally..and you could say that it becomes even more important to play your cards rite after initial stages of growth
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: Determinator on December 28, 2009, 04:20:30 AM
not true of course you can grow muscle after working out mroe than 3 years..if training has been high quality yes growth will slow down significantly if you train naturally..and you could say that it becomes even more important to play your cards rite after initial stages of growth
"if training has been high quality yes growth will slow down significantly"

Which is pretty much what I wrote. Dense retard.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: CalvinH on December 28, 2009, 08:26:41 AM
If your to hungover to make it to the gym then yes.
Title: Re: Does alcohol comsumption impair muscle growth?
Post by: nolotil on December 28, 2009, 09:57:18 AM
"if training has been high quality yes growth will slow down significantly"

Which is pretty much what I wrote. Dense retard.

no yuo didnt. you wrote: "If you have been training more than, say 3 years, it doesn't matter, as you don't grow any muscle after that time"  ;)

so you are wrong about not being able to grow after 3 years and about it not mattering as you could argue it matters MORE because gains will be harder to come by so the error of margin becomes less.