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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Stark on December 28, 2009, 02:08:04 AM
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He knows his shit...
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He's a good educator, better than those pencilheads from muscle mags. That gym looks like a good place to work your butt off, nice equipment.
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Solid ass info. Thanks for the post.
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http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/content/view/2581/225/
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good stuff,,very fitting as i'm gonna go bench now...
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Biggest bench press mistake - thinking that lift is worth a shit.
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thanks for the "tips" ::)
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Biggest BP related mistake: A twink asking the "how much can you bench?" question
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Biggest mistake of all you Internet twinks is that you think you know it all and cannot learn anything new anymore :D
And THAT gentlemen is an EPIC mistake
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#6. Asking for a spot. I usually say no to anyone that ask me.
why put the weight on the bar if you are not do 4+ reps?
It seems like more and more that tandem lifting is the new craze.
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#6. Asking for a spot. I usually say no to anyone that ask me.
why put the weight on the bar if you are not do 4+ reps?
It seems like more and more that tandem lifting is the new craze.
The reason I ask for a spot is
A) Its saver (unless you get somebody that obviously hasn't a clue how to spot somebody)
B) Motivation
C) Can help you with one last forces rep
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The biggest mistake is gripping the bar too wide. The closer your grip, the greater amplitude you can achieve when contracting your pecs, stimulating more muscle fibers.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Biggest mistake of all you Internet twinks is that you think you know it all and cannot learn anything new anymore :D
And THAT gentlemen is an EPIC mistake
Very true
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The biggest mistake is gripping the bar too wide. The closer your grip, the greater amplitude and range of motion you can achieve when contracting your pecs, stimulating more muscle fibers.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Markus Ruhl?
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Definitely a smart guy, but scary that he got winded just doing a few reps with the bar. :-\
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The biggest mistake is gripping the bar too wide. The closer your grip, the greater amplitude and range of motion you can achieve when contracting your pecs, stimulating more muscle fibers.
I do agree on the range of motion, but too close, however, and you get too much help from the triceps. A slightly wider-than-normal grip works the outer portion of the pecs, and those who typically bench high will develop a nice tie-in to the anterior delts.
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Definitely a smart guy, but scary that he got winded just doing a few reps with the bar. :-\
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I do agree on the range of motion, but too close, however, and you get too much help from the triceps. A slightly wider-than-normal grip works the outer portion of the pecs, and those who typically bench high will develop a nice tie-in to the anterior delts.
I was thinking of that - I think its because hes not used to do interviews or being filmed... if you have ever done an Interview (which I have) you concentrate so hard on not sounding stupid and you are so hyped that you kinda forget how or that you need to breath :)
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The biggest mistake is gripping the bar too wide. The closer your grip, the greater amplitude and range of motion you can achieve when contracting your pecs, stimulating more muscle fibers.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
BBing wise you're correct while a wide grip could(!) be beneficial for powerlifters.
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Have you ever noticed the drastic difference in the range of motion between a fat guy benching and a thin one? Look at a typical 5'9" 300lbs guy benching. After he takes a big breath, arches his back and taking a fairly wide grip that the bar is barely moving 15". Now take a 5'9" 190lbs lifter. He is moving the bar from touching the chest to full extention about 24 inches. Who is doing the greatest amount of work benching 300lbs?
I rarely bench press in my routines but on a good day I can do 300lbs raw. I noticed on the hammer bench I can out press 400lbs benchers because the starting point is the same for all lifters. The only difference is the length of ones arms.
The bench is an important exercise but it is way over rated. A clean and press is a better producer of power but it's to much work when one can lie on a bed (bench) and exercise.
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good advice.
but as everyone said, damn, that dude would honestly die from running for 5 sec lol.
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good video
I like Dave Tate, cool dude
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For a slightly different view, here's Ed Coan on raw benching- .
Also, to be fair to Dave, it sounds like he has the flu or a bad cold in that video. I've seen others were he's way more athletic.
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"The nutrition thing has been blown way out of control. While you should eat healthy foods, you don't have to eat like a bodybuilder. I'd bet most of the lifters we have get less than one gram per pound of body weight of protein, and eat whatever they want. The cleanest eating people I know are also some of the weakest. This is why we don't say a lot about it. If it was important as the mags say it is, then I'd have the information all over the site. We're here to help you get better, not feed you a bunch of supplement and nutrition BS."
— Dave Tate from the EliteFTS Q&A
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"I don't like to write about the overrated topic of nutrition. Training is 99% of the battle."
— Dave Tate from the EliteFTS Q&A
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"The nutrition thing has been blown way out of control. While you should eat healthy foods, you don't have to eat like a bodybuilder. I'd bet most of the lifters we have get less than one gram per pound of body weight of protein, and eat whatever they want. The cleanest eating people I know are also some of the weakest. This is why we don't say a lot about it. If it was important as the mags say it is, then I'd have the information all over the site. We're here to help you get better, not feed you a bunch of supplement and nutrition BS."
— Dave Tate from the EliteFTS Q&A
;D
"I don't like to write about the overrated topic of nutrition. Training is 99% of the battle."
— Dave Tate from the EliteFTS Q&A
I agree with him, when it's applied to Powerlifting.
But for people that want to be cut and lean...then nutrition is more important than Dave is making it out to be. I don't agree with it being as important as the magazines come across as saying, but it's a necessary facet to look at when trying to get leaner.
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I can't breath....talking to people.........what a fat fuck.
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very good advise especially the letting the bar settle
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Biggest bench press mistake - thinking that lift is worth a shit.
I think the stigma surrounding the flat bench as it not being a good overall chest exercise (which it is) is because people let their ego get the best of them. I think it's a great chest exercise when done correctly, and focusing on the muscle contraction. Problem is most idiots we see don't see this and just go in, do some bounce sets, some curls, and leave...and we get caught up in it as not being an effective exercise because of it. Overall it's still great, I personally think it gives my chest the most size, definitely over incline or anything else.
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I think the stigma surrounding the flat bench as it not being a good overall chest exercise (which it is) is because people let their ego get the best of them. I think it's a great chest exercise when done correctly, and focusing on the muscle contraction. Problem is most idiots we see don't see this and just go in, do some bounce sets, some curls, and leave...and we get caught up in it as not being an effective exercise because of it. Overall it's still great, I personally think it gives my chest the most size, definitely over incline or anything else.
It may be a matter of structure or whatever, but dumbells, either flat or incline, or heavy weighted dips, both work MUCH better than bench. Bench presses are way too hard on the shoulders.
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here is another cool video on the bench by dave tate
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Definitely a smart guy, but scary that he got winded just doing a few reps with the bar. :-\
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I do agree on the range of motion, but too close, however, and you get too much help from the triceps. A slightly wider-than-normal grip works the outer portion of the pecs, and those who typically bench high will develop a nice tie-in to the anterior delts.
was just going to post the same!
not only was he winded, he was winded for ages...
seriously though, how many people need these "tips"?, that arent beginners?..surely these are things that become second nature- even learned within the first few sessions?...all of them are pretty obvious.
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"The nutrition thing has been blown way out of control. While you should eat healthy foods, you don't have to eat like a bodybuilder. I'd bet most of the lifters we have get less than one gram per pound of body weight of protein, and eat whatever they want. The cleanest eating people I know are also some of the weakest. This is why we don't say a lot about it. If it was important as the mags say it is, then I'd have the information all over the site. We're here to help you get better, not feed you a bunch of supplement and nutrition BS."
— Dave Tate from the EliteFTS Q&A
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"I don't like to write about the overrated topic of nutrition. Training is 99% of the battle."
— Dave Tate from the EliteFTS Q&A
Tell that to this man:
"When you're lifting and you're getting stronger, you need as many calories as you can possibly put into your body, to support your heavy lifting. If your goal is to gain strength, you just have to throw the lean look out the window. The two don't go hand in hand. There are a few freaks out there who can look awesome and be strong. But in general, you shouldn't worry about trying to achieve both. Don't only train your @$$ off, but be consistent with the meals. As long as you can stay consistent with the training and the nutrition, there's really no harm done with the amount of calories you're eating. Your body will burn it up; trust me". - Johnnie Jackson 2007 Atlantic City Pro Champion, 2009 Olympia "World's Strongest Bodybuilder".
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Different sports. Most SHW lifters(in PL and OL) I know don't care at all about meal quality, it's all about piling on the bodyweight and the weight on the bar. Pizza, Little Debbies, etc.... are the quickest, cheapest, and funnest means to an end.
Even the leanest leanest lifters aren't are prissy about their eating, They just get enough protein and let the drugs and the training handle the rest.
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They are different. But, the common thread, regarding gains, is diet.
But, while many here are in search of higher numbers on their bench, I don't think they wish to resemble the late Grizzly Brown or Anthony Clark.
That's why guys like Johnnie Jackson and Ronnie Coleman are quite popular, among bodybuilding fans. They're about both building physiques and pushing up big poundages.