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:o ;D
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The greatest of all time.
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Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder or all time hands down by a country mile
I don't think he will ever be surpassed
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Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder or all time hands down by a country mile
I don't think he will ever be surpassed
I'd agree but the b/w Dorian shoot is the most impressive thing I've seen in my 25+ years of follwing pro bbing. It's too bad he only had that shape for a short while. Apart from that Ronnie is hands down the greatest freak of all the freaks.
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dorian.... :-\
cmon dude... black and white pics :-\
anyone can look great in a black and white pic standing by themselves
eg heath DJ ETC ETC... BUT COME SHOWTIME :-\
find a vid of any dorian where dorian looks half as good as that video posted... on stage
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Unreal
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dorian.... :-\
cmon dude... black and white pics :-\
anyone can look great in a black and white pic standing by themselves
eg heath DJ ETC ETC... BUT COME SHOWTIME :-\
find a vid of any dorian where dorian looks half as good as that video posted... on stage
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1996 german gran prix, Yates = unbeatable
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dorian.... :-\
cmon dude... black and white pics :-\
anyone can look great in a black and white pic standing by themselves
eg heath DJ ETC ETC... BUT COME SHOWTIME :-\
find a vid of any dorian where dorian looks half as good as that video posted... on stage
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I'm so tired of those fucking B&W Dorian pics.
It was a PHOTO SHOOT, perfect lighting, by himself. He didn't look like that onstage....ever.
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I'm so tired of those fucking B&W Dorian pics.
It was a PHOTO SHOOT, perfect lighting, by himself. He didn't look like that onstage....ever.
agreed. ronnie OWNS dorian.
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I'm so tired of those fucking B&W Dorian pics.
It was a PHOTO SHOOT, perfect lighting, by himself. He didn't look like that onstage....ever.
True, but the real point I took away from those photos were the improvements he made from the photo shoot a year prior.
He was already good enough to win the Mr. O, but took it to a completely new level. Before that, it didn't seem that a reigning Mr. Olympia could improve by that magnitude.
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I'd agree but the b/w Dorian shoot is the most impressive thing I've seen in my 25+ years of follwing pro bbing. It's too bad he only had that shape for a short while. Apart from that Ronnie is hands down the greatest freak of all the freaks.
I sort of agree with this, I think B/W and not onstage is hard to judge; Titus actually appeared to have a chest in his kitchen shots, and Kamali looks in good condition in his own kitchen, then BAM they get onstage and it washes everything out and the lower back and glutes disappear. Massive shadows everywhere make muscles look more impressive. That's the only thing about Dorian 2 weeks before 99 Olympia in the colour video, you can see his lower back and glutes have a little water in them, so if he'd stepped onstage at that point he wouldn't have been as grainy as he was 2 weeks later, but obviously was bigger and more impressive, sooooo I sort of think maybe the perfect size/condition doesn't really exist with Dorian.....despite what some people hypothesise.
Bob Chick presumably knows a thing or too about BB and he reckons Ronnie is all time greatest, I happen to agree, just.
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I'm so tired of those fucking B&W Dorian pics.
It was a PHOTO SHOOT, perfect lighting, by himself. He didn't look like that onstage....ever.
I agree. And besides, Ronnie's 2003 olympia photoshoot and 2001 arnold classic photoshoot are so much more impressive.
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Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder or all time hands down by a country mile
I don't think he will ever be surpassed
greatest bb of all time with gyno and no calves :-X
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greatest bb of all time with gyno and no calves :-X
better than having small arms thats the WORST curse a bodybuilder can have
oversized synthol delts wide waiste
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better than having small arms thats the WORST curse a bodybuilder can have
oversized synthol delts wide waiste
oh ya you are right ::) :-\
this place if full of experts!!..
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Nasser looks like shit there Sharif. Just a big bag of shitty muscle.
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its also full of muslim loving homosexuals.
oh ya you are right ::) :-\
this place if full of experts!!..
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greatest bb of all time with gyno and no calves :-X
Ronnie's strengths far surpass any of Nasser's.
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The greatest of all time.
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Cormier looks best to me up there, he's lacking nothing
complete
proportion, symmetry
condition
muscle maturity
density
mass
lines
guys like ronnie, flex, nasser, lack one or two of the above.
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Ronnie does look incredible in that video, and so does Cormier. I think CC should have been 2nd and Flex 3rd.
I don't want to turn this threat into a Ronnie/Dorian debate. However, in my opinion, Dorian's dominance in this video (1995) equals or exceeds that of Ronnie in 99.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=TRU5S-vBCoG-qQP28aHqDg&q=1995+mr.+olympia&hl=en#
(I couldn't get it embedded, sorry)
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Ronnie does look incredible in that video, and so does Cormier. I think CC should have been 2nd and Flex 3rd.
I don't want to turn this threat into a Ronnie/Dorian debate. However, in my opinion, Dorian's dominanace in this video (1995) rivals that of Ronnie in 99.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067&ei=TRU5S-vBCoG-qQP28aHqDg&q=1995+mr.+olympia&hl=en#
(I couldn't get it embedded, sorry)
just look when dorian steps forward, his psihique looks so powerfull, even with the bad arm, he's so much better than the rest. looks like a brickwall, very well developed, is makin levrone and shawn look like ballerina's. even though ronnie is bigger, he's not as impressive. An unique look that dorian had and he got rewarded for it.
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oh ya you are right ::) :-\
this place if full of experts!!..
Well, I think the 'experts' have already spoken, and the answer was zero Mr. Olympias. What part of zero don't you understand!? Oh brother.
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I sort of agree with this, I think B/W and not onstage is hard to judge; Titus actually appeared to have a chest in his kitchen shots, and Kamali looks in good condition in his own kitchen, then BAM they get onstage and it washes everything out and the lower back and glutes disappear. Massive shadows everywhere make muscles look more impressive. That's the only thing about Dorian 2 weeks before 99 Olympia in the colour video, you can see his lower back and glutes have a little water in them, so if he'd stepped onstage at that point he wouldn't have been as grainy as he was 2 weeks later, but obviously was bigger and more impressive, sooooo I sort of think maybe the perfect size/condition doesn't really exist with Dorian.....despite what some people hypothesise.
Bob Chick presumably knows a thing or too about BB and he reckons Ronnie is all time greatest, I happen to agree, just.
A few notes on the black & whites Kevin Horton who took the photographs ( which mind you were never intended for publication just for Dorian's personal use ) these were NOT professional studio shots these were taken with NO tan , NO posing oil
Kevin Horoton GetBig Dec 30th
The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.
This is addressing the black & whites and how they were technically terrible !! here is Kevin addressing how he's only impressive in black & white lmfao
Kevin Horton on the B&W of Yates
I agree. Nobody would have even have heard of Yates if those shots had been in colour. He was really only 110lbs with one leg 6 inches longer than the other and as smooth as a babies arse. He would never have won all those titles either because the judges were obviously influenced by the black and white tonality.
Amazing what Tri-X can do for a physique. Kodak should use it in their advertising campaign.
I laugh out loud every time people try and dismiss the black & white shots as nothing special or the result of the lack of color
That's the only thing about Dorian 2 weeks before 99 Olympia in the colour video, you can see his lower back and glutes have a little water in them, so if he'd stepped onstage at that point he wouldn't have been as grainy as he was 2 weeks later, but obviously was bigger and more impressive, sooooo I sort of think maybe the perfect size/condition doesn't really exist with Dorian.....despite what some people hypothesise.
I loved how you were able to ascertain his level of conditioning from the most God-awful shit copy posted on Youtube , you must have superhuman vision ::) the perfect size/conditioning doesn't exist with Dorian? how about the 1993 Olympia? how about the 1995 Olympia? even in these black & whites his conditioning according to Kevin Horton would put him in the top three at the Olympia in terms of hardness , this is weeks out from the Olympia and at 270 pounds !! Dorian was always overly cautious he was for all intents & purposes contest ready weeks out and admittedly just withered away pure muscle in the weeks leading to the contest
Kevin Horton
When I photgraphed Dorian , I told him " You should step onstage at 270 pounds. Do that , and there won't be a man on earth who can beat you." At 270 pounds Dorian was in very , very good condition , enough to put him in the top three onstage in hardness , and his untouachble size and thickness would have assured him the victory. For Dorian , however , this would noty do. " But it wouldn't be me " was his reply. He wasn't competing simply to the biggest. He wanted to be the best , and that meant being the biggest and the hardest and the thickest and the best all-around. He believes in putting 100% effiort into every aspect of bodybuilding . and that means not leaving anything out of his total package.
Peter McGough Ironage
June 06 , 2003
The later photos were taken in his gym about seven weeks before the 1993 Olympia. He'd just finished a chest workout and he weighed 269 pounds. If I had to rate my most memorable bodybuilding moment the sight of Dorian that day would be neck-and-neck with the first time I saw Sergio. He hit the first shot, double biceps, and I walked up to him and said, "Don't worry Dorian. You have plenty of time to fix this. All is not lost."
I told him he could walk on to the Olympia stage in that condition weighing 269 pounds, untanned, with his socks on and still win.
Flex magazine August 1997
Peter McGough on the famous Kevin Horton precontest black & whites of Dorian at 269lbs
I was present when those shots were taken and it was the most stunning unveiling of a physique these peepers had seen since my intial view of SERGIO OLIVA at the 1971 NABBA Mr Universe. that day , Dorian's physique blew my - if not his own -socks off.
Bob Chick presumably knows a thing or too about BB and he reckons Ronnie is all time greatest, I happen to agree, just.
I laughed at this quote too , Ronnie-ficking-Coleman knows a thing or two about BB and he reckons Dorian would beat him at his best , and I happen to agree.
Yet somehow Chick is right and Ronnie is wrong ::) you gotta love the fan boys
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dorian.... :-\
cmon dude... black and white pics :-\
anyone can look great in a black and white pic standing by themselves
eg heath DJ ETC ETC... BUT COME SHOWTIME :-\
find a vid of any dorian where dorian looks half as good as that video posted... on stage
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1995 Mr Olympia or 1993
He's harder , drier , better balanced and more complete than Ronnie ANY year ALL color pictures no excuses
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just look when dorian steps forward, his psihique looks so powerfull, even with the bad arm, he's so much better than the rest. looks like a brickwall, very well developed, is makin levrone and shawn look like ballerina's. even though ronnie is bigger, he's not as impressive. An unique look that dorian had and he got rewarded for it.
everyone is entitled to their opinion...
but.. to me doeian does not look impressive there take both guys from each video put them together ronnie wins...
its simple ronnie had a lot mor strong points than dorian.. who had one.. really..
ronnie strong point
arms chest back traps delts quads hams glutes
.. if dorian has more strong points than those...
he wins :-\ :-\
imo he only had one... back
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A contest in which Paul Dillett said he seen " Jesus Christ "
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A few notes on the black & whites Kevin Horton who took the photographs ( which mind you were never intended for publication just for Dorian's personal use ) these were NOT professional studio shots these were taken with NO tan , NO posing oil
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h288/ilmb23/make-it-stop.jpg)
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everyone is entitled to their opinion...
but.. to me doeian does not look impressive there take both guys from each video put them together ronnie wins...
its simple ronnie had a lot mor strong points than dorian.. who had one.. really..
ronnie strong point
arms chest back traps delts quads hams glutes
.. if dorian has more strong points than those...
he wins :-\ :-\
imo he only had one... back
Another guy who doesn't get how contests are judged , they don't judge who has the better parts and say ' he's better '
Dorian's whole physique is a strong point , from his density & dryness to his balance & proportion to his size and his posing , there is a really good reason Ronnie keeps saying he couldn't touch him
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1995 Mr Olympia or 1993
He's harder , drier , better balanced and more complete than Ronnie ANY year ALL color pictures no excuses
Harder and drier, yes, but how can you honestly believe the next bit? ???
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Harder and drier, yes, but how can you honestly believe the next bit? ???
What are you taking Hulkster's place on trolling when he's on his sabbatical?
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I'm so tired of those fucking B&W Dorian pics.
It was a PHOTO SHOOT, perfect lighting, by himself. He didn't look like that onstage....ever.
In case you missed it, the video of that shoot was posted and it's even more impressive than the B/W photos. It's the single most impressive video footage in the history of bodybuilding.
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In case you missed it, the video of that shoot was posted and it's even more impressive than the B/W photos. It's the single most impressive video footage in the history of bodybuilding.
;D
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Another guy who doesn't get how contests are judged , they don't judge who has the better parts and say ' he's better '
Dorian's whole physique is a strong point , from his density & dryness to his balance & proportion to his size and his posing , there is a really good reason Ronnie keeps saying he couldn't touch him
when did he ever say that?
I'm paraphrasing here but it was something along the lines of "Dorian would have kept on winning".....he never said "his build is better than mine"
He was tap-dancing around the fact that Dorian kept on winning even when he was falling apart..at least that's how i took it.
Dorian has also given a vague, politically correct answer saying Ronnie was better than him too.
Referring to quotes in BBing rags is retarded anyway. as if they are the gospel or something
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I Watched the 1993 olympia. Dorian looked like shit. Even his back looks small. He is 250 lbs at 5'10. Small legs. Awful arms, tiny shoulders. shitty poser.. He is lucky he retired.
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It's all lighting. Dorians pics above from that photoshoot, plus oil. Take a look at dennis james gym pics, even Kevin levrone bald posing in the gym with the crazy lighting yet he looks like a 2nd tier bodybuilder next to coleman
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It's all lighting. Dorians pics above from that photoshoot, plus oil. Take a look at dennis james gym pics, even Kevin levrone bald posing in the gym with the crazy lighting yet he looks like a 2nd tier bodybuilder next to coleman
Oh brother, to say Ronnie is better than Dorian is one thing; however, to claim that Dorian didn't look good on stage shows how little you know about bodybuilding. Dorian was known for being much freakier in person and on stage than in his pics.
Yeah, he was so awful in 93 that he won with straight firsts, and that win was considered one of the most dominant in Mr. O history.
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Oh brother, to say Ronnie is better than Dorian is one thing; however, to claim that Dorian didn't look good on stage shows how little you know about bodybuilding. Dorian was known for being much freakier in person and on stage than in his pics.
Yeah, he was so awful in 93 that he won with straight firsts, and that win was considered one of the most dominant in Mr. O history.
I wouldn't say it was the most dominate win (speaking on the 1993 O), it could have gone either way between Yates or Wheeler. But Dorian was the standard at that time. Flex would not have won even of he showed up in his 93 Arnold condition. It was not meant to be for Flex to win.
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I wouldn't say it was the most dominate win (speaking on the 1993 O), it could have gone either way between Yates or Wheeler. But Dorian was the standard at that time. Flex would not have won even of he showed up in his 93 Arnold condition. It was not meant to be for Flex to win.
I agree, which is why I said one of the most dominant wins. Dorian set a new standards in size and conditioning in 93.
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when did he ever say that?
I'm paraphrasing here but it was something along the lines of "Dorian would have kept on winning".....he never said "his build is better than mine"
He was tap-dancing around the fact that Dorian kept on winning even when he was falling apart..at least that's how i took it.
Dorian has also given a vague, politically correct answer saying Ronnie was better than him too.
Referring to quotes in BBing rags is retarded anyway. as if they are the gospel or something
Wrong.
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so. Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block. He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.
There is one more I can't find right now , Ronnie fears Dorian for a reason
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anyone can look great in a black and white pic standing by themselves
If anyone can look great in b/w, why don't you post yours? I'm sure that as long as they are b/w and you're standing alone you'll look every bit as impressive as Dorian did. 'Tard.
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I wouldn't say it was the most dominate win (speaking on the 1993 O), it could have gone either way between Yates or Wheeler. But Dorian was the standard at that time. Flex would not have won even of he showed up in his 93 Arnold condition. It was not meant to be for Flex to win.
No it couldn't , most dominate win in Olympia history in fact , he was so far ahead of everyone they didn't even need to include him in the muscularity round , that hasn't happen before or since
At 2 p.m. on 11 September 1993 he walked out onstage at the Civic Auditorium in Atlanta, Georgia. He weighed 257 lb. His skin looked as if it had been painted directly on to his muscle. He was stone hard and grainy. Every detail of every body part punched out into the first ten rows. No man had ever looked quite like Dorian Yates looked that day: he looked big. He looked bad He looked sick. There was no Mr. Olympia contest. The judges saw no need to call him out for comparisons during the muscularity round.
' I knew then, ' he would say, ten years later, ' that I was either first or last. And I wasn't fucking last. '
Eventually Wayne Demilia asked him to step forward between Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler, just the audience could marvel at him some more. Samir Bannout looked at the three of them and said ' Dorian is first, second and third. '
I actually wanted Flex to win in 1993 and was dumbfounded as to how he lost , needless to say I didn't know how contests were judged and when I did , I realized how far ahead Dorian was
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Wrong.
Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?
Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
FLEX nov 1999, page 90. interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.
Jim: What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?
Ronnie: Dorian would have won again.
Jim: You think so?
Ronnie: I know so. Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block. He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.
There is one more I can't find right now , Ronnie fears Dorian for a reason
If you can't see that for the Politically Correct answer that it is, you are worse than the Nasser fanboys.
He doesn't say "Dorian is better"... he says he would have won.
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If you can't see that for the Politically Correct answer that it is, you are worse than the Nasser fanboys.
He doesn't say "Dorian is better"... he says he would have won.
Presuming to speak for Ronnie now huh? I know it pains you that Ronnie thinks Dorian would beat him but it's the way feels regardless of what you think he's saying and it's not like Dorian beat him 8 times previously ::)
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I Watched the 1993 olympia. Dorian looked like shit. Even his back looks small. He is 250 lbs at 5'10. Small legs. Awful arms, tiny shoulders. shitty poser.. He is lucky he retired.
meltdown
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;D
screen caps... screen caps selected few black and white pics... i can post a black a white pic of heath stansing by himself where he looks like Hulk.. i can post pics of ronnie.... dj thats been all done
I want to see a video where dorian looks anywhere near as good as the video posted on this threads
not words... or quotes from magazines...
ALL of dorian Mr olympia vids are on the net
someoen post one where he is even close to that coleman vid
....and good luck
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Presuming to speak for Ronnie now huh? I know it pains you that Ronnie thinks Dorian would beat him but it's the way feels regardless of what you think he's saying and it's not like Dorian beat him 8 times previously ::)
And Dorian has said the same fucking thing. so who are we to believe?
It's two great champions giving each other their props....I doubt either one thinks the other is better. I thought you were past this fanboy bullshit. It's pointless talking to you.
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It's all lighting. Dorians pics above from that photoshoot, plus oil. Take a look at dennis james gym pics, even Kevin levrone bald posing in the gym with the crazy lighting yet he looks like a 2nd tier bodybuilder next to coleman
exactly...
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screen caps... screen caps selected few black and white pics... i can post a black a white pic of heath stansing by himself where he looks like Hulk.. i can post pics of ronnie.... dj thats been all done
I want to see a video where dorian looks anywhere near as good as the video posted on this threads
not words... or quotes from magazines...
ALL of dorian Mr olympia vids are on the net
someoen post one where he is even close to that coleman vid
....and good luck
Yeah because Dorian was never compared to his contemporaries on-stage side-by-side ::)
You're as biased as the day is long , you like what you like which is okay but you can't look outside your preferences to see how great Dorian was which is explains how you can reduce him to just a back and calves
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And Dorian has said the same fucking thing. so who are we to believe?
It's two great champions giving each other their props....I doubt either one thinks the other is better. I thought you were past this fanboy bullshit. It's pointless talking to you.
very true
its simple....
Dorian shape sucks.....
he won his competeitions. on shape and size so they say
if you made a list for graetest arms.... dorian wouldnt be there
greatest delts dorian wouldnt be there
greatest lesgs dorian wouldnt be there
greats back he would be there
calves maybe
coleman would be on all of those lists
plus ronnie had a narrower waiste and bigger muscles everywhere aside from calves
so how in the name of heaven is dorian better than coleman
????
coleman bigger wider narower waiste vastly superior muscle size and shape
... i dont think they should even mention their names in the same sentence....
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And Dorian has said the same fucking thing. so who are we to believe?
It's two great champions giving each other their props....I doubt either one thinks the other is better. I thought you were past this fanboy bullshit. It's pointless talking to you.
Not quite , Dorian said Ronnie would beat me I guess I don't know ...not definitive like Ronnie , there's the difference and like I've always said just because Ronnie says it's so doesn't make it so. However I'm always amazed how people are willing to dismiss him when it comes to this subject or flat-out interpret what he really means ::)
I laugh when people claim Dorian couldn't touch Ronnie when in fact Ronnie couldn't touch Dorian for years
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ND a lot of words...
can i make a request
post a video from any dorian mr o
where he looks anywhere near to the ronnie video posted
thanks
no more words and quotes please post the video
thanks
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very true
its simple....
Dorian shape sucks.....
he won his competeitions. on shape and size so they say
if you made a list for graetest arms.... dorian wouldnt be there
greatest delts dorian wouldnt be there
greatest lesgs dorian wouldnt be there
greats back he would be there
calves maybe
coleman would be on all of those lists
plus ronnie had a narrower waiste and bigger muscles everywhere aside from calves
so how in the name of heaven is dorian better than coleman
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coleman bigger wider narower waiste vastly superior muscle size and shape
... i dont think they should even mention their names in the same sentence....
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Hahahahah still trying to collect parts NOT HOW IT WORKS , go learn how contests are judged and you'll then have an understanding of how Dorian destroyed everyone for years
There names shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence yet with all of his advantages Ronnie made absolutely NO headway against Dorian in 8 years , explain that one without conspiracy theories and excuses
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ND a lot of words...
can i make a request
post a video from any dorian mr o
where he looks anywhere near to the ronnie video posted
thanks
no more words and quotes please post the video
thanks
For what? for a biased ignorant person to dismiss anyway? 1995 Olympia has been posted many times I'm sure you've seen it
Dorian's 260 pounds , harder & drier than Ronnie ever was and has better balance
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5049884837576382067#
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If anyone can look great in b/w, why don't you post yours? I'm sure that as long as they are b/w and you're standing alone you'll look every bit as impressive as Dorian did. 'Tard.
Great post !
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:o ;D
Ronnie at his best destroys everyone in the history of bodybuilding except Yates at the 1995 Olympia, who was the Michael Jordan, the Wayne Gretzky, the John Elway of bodybuilding.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Great post !
no dumb post everyone here knows were talking about pro bbers
and nd that video you posted isn't even close Dorian has a horrible shape
majority wins post both vids make a thread and you can bet your last buck more people will vote for ronnie
but then again everry one else is ignorant and only your opinion is valid right?
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Ronnie at his best destroys everyone in the history of bodybuilding except Yates at the 1995 Olympia, who was the Michael Jordan, the Wayne Gretzky, the John Elway of bodybuilding.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
I love these guys , they shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence , please ::)
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no dumb post everyone here knows were talking about pro bbers
and nd that video you posted isn't even close Dorian has a horrible shape
majority wins post both vids make a thread and you can bet your last buck more people will vote for ronnie
but then again everry one else is ignorant and only your opinion is valid right?
No this would apply to anyone yet it doesn't
Dorian's horrible shape kicked Flex Wheeler's ass who has much better shape than Ronnie ever did , your point is simply based on bias and they don't use that to judge contests , well let me correct myself , they do the bias is the IFBB judging criteria
Ronnie's more popular so that means he's better ::) more flawed logic
My opinion isn't valid it's at least knowledgeable more so than you and all the other guys making gross generalizations and basing everything on bias , the only valid opinion is the judges and they spoke for years on who was better
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Ronnie at his best destroys everyone in the history of bodybuilding except Yates at the 1995 Olympia, who was the Michael Jordan, the Wayne Gretzky, the John Elway of bodybuilding.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
the michael Jordan of bbing
;D ;D
that's a good one
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What I'm saying is ronnie at his best no onse else is close least of all yates the guy looked like he was made out of play dough with small arms
do u relise even now retired Coleman good right arm is bigger than mr olympia jay culter now that's how much of a freak and how far ahead of everyone he was.
Dorian winning with one arm torn shows how primitive the judging system was in those days
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What I'm saying is ronnie at his best no onse else is close least of all yates the guy looked like he was made out of play dough with small arms
do u relise even now retired Coleman good right arm is bigger than mr olympia jay culter now that's how much of a freak and how far ahead of everyone he was.
Dorian winning with one arm torn shows how primitive the judging system was in those days
Oh Ronnie winning with TWO missing calves is OKAY primitive you say? or bitch tits? I mean seriously stop harping on Yates' presumed flaws while ignoring Ronnie's it shows your bias
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No it couldn't , most dominate win in Olympia history in fact , he was so far ahead of everyone they didn't even need to include him in the muscularity round , that hasn't happen before or since
At 2 p.m. on 11 September 1993 he walked out onstage at the Civic Auditorium in Atlanta, Georgia. He weighed 257 lb. His skin looked as if it had been painted directly on to his muscle. He was stone hard and grainy. Every detail of every body part punched out into the first ten rows. No man had ever looked quite like Dorian Yates looked that day: he looked big. He looked bad He looked sick. There was no Mr. Olympia contest. The judges saw no need to call him out for comparisons during the muscularity round.
' I knew then, ' he would say, ten years later, ' that I was either first or last. And I wasn't fucking last. '
Eventually Wayne Demilia asked him to step forward between Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler, just the audience could marvel at him some more. Samir Bannout looked at the three of them and said ' Dorian is first, second and third. '
I actually wanted Flex to win in 1993 and was dumbfounded as to how he lost , needless to say I didn't know how contests were judged and when I did , I realized how far ahead Dorian was
yes, what made dorian so great is the fact he had good mass and seperation to go with his grainy appearence, cutler would never look so good even if he was equally grainy. its genetich
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when you see dorian walking to stage with his lats from the frnt, looking like a powerhouse, you think thats the way i want to look, astetics with power. ronnie and lets say dillet were freaks, dorian was a proportioned ''3D angles'''freak. pics dont do him justice, arguably the best bb of all time, from a BB point of view that is.
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What I'm saying is ronnie at his best no onse else is close least of all yates the guy looked like he was made out of play dough with small arms
do u relise even now retired Coleman good right arm is bigger than mr olympia jay culter now that's how much of a freak and how far ahead of everyone he was.
Dorian winning with one arm torn shows how primitive the judging system was in those days
It was bullshit is what it was....
I'm a fan of Dorian's...I think he was fucking great.
But Winning the Mr Olympia contest with a torn biceps is like some chick winning the Miss America contest with one breast. it's ludicrous.
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It was bullshit is what it was....
I'm a fan of Dorian's...I think he was fucking great.
But Winning the Mr Olympia contest with a torn biceps is like some chick winning the Miss America contest with one breast. it's ludicrous.
Winning the Olympia with NO calves what so ever isn't ludicrous ? speaking about breasts how about Ronnies?
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:o ;D
Flex Wheeler>>> Coleman
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Winning the Olympia with NO calves what so ever isn't ludicrous ? speaking about breasts how about Ronnies?
I see your point. They all have flaws. but the guy had a torn bicep....not weak bi's. it was mangled. that is a big difference in my opinion. The bi's are one of the signature muscles everyone wants to see.
I respect what you say ND we can do this forever....as a matter of fact....you have LOL
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I see your point. They all have flaws. but the guy had a torn bicep....not weak bi's. it was mangled. that is a big difference in my opinion. The bi's are one of the signature muscles everyone wants to see.
I respect what you say ND we can do this forever....as a matter of fact....you have LOL
;D
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Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder or all time hands down by a country mile
I don't think he will ever be surpassed
Ronnie is the "freakish" BB thus far but not the greatest in fact imo he looks like an overstuffed bag of shite.
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Ronnie is the KING, end of discussion.
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Ronnie is the "freakish" BB thus far but not the greatest in fact imo he looks like an overstuffed bag of shite.
I agree
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Even jay cutler would beat dorian at his best.
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Nasser looks like shit there Sharif. Just a big bag of shitty muscle.
i am repeating what i said before, this place is full of experts :-X
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everyone is entitled to their opinion...
but.. to me doeian does not look impressive there take both guys from each video put them together ronnie wins...
its simple ronnie had a lot mor strong points than dorian.. who had one.. really..
ronnie strong point
arms chest back traps delts quads hams glutes
.. if dorian has more strong points than those...
he wins :-\ :-\
imo he only had one... back
so according to you what was wrong with his calves or his triceps or his forearms ::)..
dorian at his best as a whole was better than ronnie at his best as a whole IMO..
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where is hulkster??.. how come he hasnt joined this thread till now?!!..
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Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder or all time hands down by a country mile
I don't think he will ever be surpassed
agreed. you might be right.
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i am repeating what i said before, this place is full of experts :-X
what makes your opinion any more valid ?
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what makes your opinion any more valid ?
the common sense ;)
you yourself mentioned before more than once that aside of all GB shit you see nasser a great bb and now you are saying he looks like a bag of shit!!.. dont you think this is a clear contradiction?
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the common sense ;)
you yourself mentioned before more than once that aside of all GB shit you see nasser a great bb and now you are saying he looks like a bag of shit!!.. dont you think this is a clear contradiction?
He is great, he just is a bag shit compare to a prime Ronnie.
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the common sense ;)
you yourself mentioned before more than once that aside of all GB shit you see nasser a great bb and now you are saying he looks like a bag of shit!!.. dont you think this is a clear contradiction?
He looks like crap in that pic, In my opinion. others he looks great...just like every other human on the planet.
I've never seen someone get so worked up over a fucking dumbass bodybuilder.
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He is great, he just is a bag shit compare to a prime Ronnie.
Truth!
Also Ronnie has never sunk so low as to sell his worn clothing online.
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He looks like crap in that pic, In my opinion. others he looks great...just like every other human on the planet.
I've never seen someone get so worked up over a fucking dumbass bodybuilder.
Love is blind as evidenced by sha-labia's constant meltdowns whenever the FACTS about nasser are brought up
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He looks like crap in that pic, In my opinion. others he looks great...just like every other human on the planet.
I've never seen someone get so worked up over a fucking dumbass bodybuilder.
I don't know what Nasser is paying them or promising them but it is on the verge of delusional. I think it is more about insecurity that maybe Nasser as a arabic bodybuilder is not given his due. Which he has been given, he just is not as great as the others. He may represent a great arab bodybuilder, and as such is a example for them, so this delusion carries over that he was better than everybody. Seeing through rosy colored glasses...
Tyr, it is a "tiring"ordeal in dealing with the delusion of a few insistence crazed fans.
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He looks like crap in that pic, In my opinion. others he looks great...just like every other human on the planet.
I've never seen someone get so worked up over a fucking dumbass bodybuilder.
sure this is your opinion and i respect it but i mean in that pic. he is big, hard, shredded and his over all shape is very good.. what esle is needed to be a great bb!!..
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I don't know what Nasser is paying them or promising them but it is on the verge of delusional. I think it is more about insecurity that maybe Nasser as a arabic bodybuilder is not given his due. Which he has been given, he just is not as great as the others. He may represent a great arab bodybuilder, and as such is a example for them, so this delusion carries over that he was better than everybody. Seeing through rosy colored glasses...
Tyr, it is a "tiring"ordeal in dealing with the delusion of a few insistence crazed fans.
According to this secret Pm nasser thinks he's engaged in some kind of pathetic wargame to win getbig's approval. Besides nasser is only half arabic - he competed as a Yugoslavian not Egyptian..
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2wh4cjm.jpg)
Yes dealing with the nasser zealots is tyresome......but amusing :D
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According to this secret Pm nasser thinks he's engaged in some kind of pathetic wargame to win getbig's approval. Besides nasser is only half arabic - he competed as a Yugoslavian not Egyptian..
(http://i43.tinypic.com/2wh4cjm.jpg)
Yes dealing with the nasser zealots is tyresome.
If anything that proves just how wacked in the head Mr. google eyes is.
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Love is blind as evidenced by sha-labia's constant meltdowns whenever the FACTS about nasser are brought up
yes like some asshole here who has been humiliated since i exposed all his gimmicks (with the help of your stupidity of course) :-\ still you have no dignity at all to do your role in a perfect way which is to keep following me like the dog you are, good for you if you like this :-X
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yes like some asshole here who has been humiliated since i exposed all his gimmicks (with the help of your stupidity of course) :-\ still you have no dignity at all to do your role in a perfect way which is to keep following me like the dog you are, good for you if you like this :-X
ha ha ha
Poor little pygmy is having another bad day.
Seems like you are the one who is humiliated as evidenced by your constant meltdowns.
Disgrace and shame are the two houses mudhuts you inhabit.
Settle down chihuahua - your incessant yelping is not helping your cause.
:D
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nasser looks like a much larger version of lee priest, long torso, short legs
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(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/l_98bf19f9003e4be8b1ce24e49847a43d.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/funcolemancopbis.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/funcolecopfols.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/Capture1234.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/158378-bodybuilder-ronnie-coleman.jpg)
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(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/010.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/054.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/082.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/060.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/rc259.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/rc64.jpg)
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(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/010.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/054.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/082.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/060.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/rc259.jpg)(http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr149/massturbater/rc64.jpg)
4th pic down, he looks like a diesel Tyson Beckford
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that is diesel Tyson Beckford :D
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Not quite , Dorian said Ronnie would beat me I guess I don't know ...not definitive like Ronnie , there's the difference and like I've always said just because Ronnie says it's so doesn't make it so. However I'm always amazed how people are willing to dismiss him when it comes to this subject or flat-out interpret what he really means ::)
I laugh when people claim Dorian couldn't touch Ronnie when in fact Ronnie couldn't touch Dorian for years
The fact you think either of them actually think the other would win shows your knowledge of what is commonly called "sportsmanship". They are bigging each other up, they both have champions' mentalities and both have to believe they are the best to get where they have gotten. We've been over this: Ronnie also said Haney, Arnold et al would beat him too, do you believe that as well? No, you choose to be selective about those comments, then claim everyone else is being selective to try and mask this basic hole in your own argument with a thinly veiled helping of hypocrisy. Totally weird from someone who is often able to form sensible arguments. ?
Plus all this has absolutely no bearing on who would win, so why dwell on it as if it's actually got any value as an argument?
Do you think you know more about BB than Bob Chick?
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The fact you think either of them actually think the other would win shows your knowledge of what is commonly called "sportsmanship". They are bigging each other up, they both have champions' mentalities and both have to believe they are the best to get where they have gotten. We've been over this: Ronnie also said Haney, Arnold et al would beat him too, do you believe that as well? No, you choose to be selective about those comments, then claim everyone else is being selective to try and mask this basic hole in your own argument with a thinly veiled helping of hypocrisy. Totally weird from someone who is often able to form sensible arguments. ?
Plus all this has absolutely no bearing on who would win, so why dwell on it as if it's actually got any value as an argument?
Do you think you know more about BB than Bob Chick?
also in this clip dorian said that ronnie "is probably the best ever"!!.. i am sure ND watched it before but sure he would never refer to what dorian said here, he refers only to what agrees with him
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If anyone has seen Nasser competing live at a show, it's very clear, he is the all time champion.
The audience clearly picks Nasser and the the judges go with 2nd best, maybe it was political?
contest-photos (http://www.hugenasser.com/gallery/contest-photos/)
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Coleman is the GOAT
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If anyone has seen Nasser competing live at a show, it's very clear, he is the all time champion.
The audience clearly picks Nasser and the the judges go with 2nd best, maybe it was political?
contest-photos (http://www.hugenasser.com/gallery/contest-photos/)
Oh christ not another one.
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The fact you think either of them actually think the other would win shows your knowledge of what is commonly called "sportsmanship". They are bigging each other up, they both have champions' mentalities and both have to believe they are the best to get where they have gotten. We've been over this: Ronnie also said Haney, Arnold et al would beat him too, do you believe that as well? No, you choose to be selective about those comments, then claim everyone else is being selective to try and mask this basic hole in your own argument with a thinly veiled helping of hypocrisy. Totally weird from someone who is often able to form sensible arguments. ?
Plus all this has absolutely no bearing on who would win, so why dwell on it as if it's actually got any value as an argument?
Do you think you know more about BB than Bob Chick?
The fact you think either of them actually think the other would win shows your knowledge of what is commonly called "sportsmanship". They are bigging each other up, they both have champions' mentalities and both have to believe they are the best to get where they have gotten. We've been over this: Ronnie also said Haney, Arnold et al would beat him too, do you believe that as well? No, you choose to be selective about those comments, then claim everyone else is being selective to try and mask this basic hole in your own argument with a thinly veiled helping of hypocrisy. Totally weird from someone who is often able to form sensible arguments. ?
Sportsmanship huh? he was paying lip service to Dorian? what I love the most is the spin everyone puts on his comments because it's not what they want to hear. How about he was telling the truth? how about he actually believes Dorian could beat him because Dorian beat him for years on end
Ronnie never said Haney would beat him , that's a lie ...when posed the question of who would beat whom at their respective best , Arnold , Lee , Yates or him his response was " come now this is the time of Ronnie , but I couldn't have beaten them in their day " that was taking the highroad
And the best part which I've always maintained that even we take what Ronnie said at face value it doesn't make it true , but his comments on the subject are just as valid as anyone else
Plus all this has absolutely no bearing on who would win, so why dwell on it as if it's actually got any value as an argument?
Do you think you know more about BB than Bob Chick?
I agree it doesn't have anything to do with it but it's very interesting how Ronnie feels on the subject and how all of his fans absolutely hate to hear him concede to Dorian , his opinion on the subject is just as valid as anyone else
Do you think you know more about BB than Ronnie Coleman? or how about anyone who feels Dorian would beat Ronnie? who is the bigger authority ? who's opinion because more valid because of it?
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also in this clip dorian said that ronnie "is probably the best ever"!!.. i am sure ND watched it before but sure he would never refer to what dorian said here, he refers only to what agrees with him
Oh no you figured me out , I was hoping this was never posted out of fear ::) because it's not like it hasn't been posted before ::)
8 Olympia wins and more pro wins than anyone else in history that alone says Ronnie is the best ever , has nothing to do with Dorian beating him at his best , Ronnie never faced anyone like Dorian ever , who did Ronnie get all those Olympia wins over? guys Dorian crushed for years on end? Dorian absolutely crushed Flex at near his absolute best , he was so far ahead Samir Bannout said he was first , second and third ! a contest in which Dorian was so far ahead of everyone they didn't need to include him in the muscularity round ! Ronnie faced Flex who wasn't at his best and Ronnie was in his admitted best Olympia showing and only beat him by 3 points a contest which remains one of the closest Olympias to this day .
think before you post.
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Oh no you figured me out , I was hoping this was never posted out of fear ::) because it's not like it hasn't been posted before ::)
8 Olympia wins and more pro wins than anyone else in history that alone says Ronnie is the best ever , has nothing to do with Dorian beating him at his best , Ronnie never faced anyone like Dorian ever , who did Ronnie get all those Olympia wins over? guys Dorian crushed for years on end? Dorian absolutely crushed Flex at near his absolute best , he was so far ahead Samir Bannout said he was first , second and third ! a contest in which Dorian was so far ahead of everyone they didn't need to include him in the muscularity round ! Ronnie faced Flex who wasn't at his best and Ronnie was in his admitted best Olympia showing and only beat him by 3 points a contest which remains one of the closest Olympias to this day .
think before you post.
Dude let it go there's a whole world out there. They were both great, if we all agreed on the same shit the world would be a pretty simple boring place.