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Title: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 10, 2010, 06:12:12 PM
Not much separation and very narrow...Remember I said DAY OF SHOW, you know, where it actually matters...I'm not posting pics or video.

While I'm at it, his upper chest and arms suck... ;D

Good Day.

I guess back in the 90s before Jay, Ronnie, Branch and Kai brought the wheels we see today Dorian's were acceptable.  He was known for not squating because of an old injury.

Notice in photos how he points his toes out to make his legs appear larger than they are.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 10, 2010, 06:27:21 PM
Good song, good video.


Piss off
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 10, 2010, 06:29:42 PM
I guess your quads are bigger then Dorians?

I'm not a pro-bodybuilder...nor do I wish to be. Great defense ::)
Only in bodybuilding...Can you imagine.... Me:"Man Kobe sucked tonight"..... You:" Let's see your jumpshot"
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: TRIX on January 10, 2010, 06:31:09 PM
Bodybuilders with small quads point the toes outwards to make them appear larger. Whereas guys with legit monster wheels have there feet straight aka coleman
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: lesaucer on January 10, 2010, 06:34:07 PM
Not much separation and very narrow...Remember I said DAY OF SHOW, you know, where it actually matters...I'm not posting pics or video.

While I'm at it, his upper chest and arms suck... ;D

Good Day.

I guess back in the 90s before Jay, Ronnie and Kai brought the wheels we see today Dorian's were acceptable.  He was known for not squating because of an old injury.

Notice in photos how he points his toes out to make his legs appear larger than they are.

moron, everyone do that, this is how you correctly flex your quads to make them appear as big as possible, just like how you position your hands when you flex your biceps
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: marty31672 on January 10, 2010, 06:35:52 PM
ronnie's thighs are better
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 10, 2010, 06:36:41 PM
Quote from: Savier link=topic=314064.msg 4482606#msg 4482606 date=1263177158
touché

How about this one.....How many Olympias did he win?

He won 6.

Still doesn't change how his quads look.  This is not a debate about how many he won or if he deserved to win those...Re-read the thread title and re engage.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 10, 2010, 06:38:47 PM
moron, everyone do that, this is how you correctly flex your quads to make them appear as big as possible, just like how you position your hands when you flex your biceps


Everyone "DO" that huh? ;D
Everyone doesn't do that.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: TRIX on January 10, 2010, 06:41:04 PM
Dorian was 5'10 250 - 255 lbs. Kai greene weighs the same and is 3 inches shorter
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 10, 2010, 06:44:11 PM
Dorian was 5'10 250 - 255 lbs. Kai greene weighs the same and is 3 inches shorter

What's your point?  Look at Coleman's and Cutlers quads when they were at that weight.
BTW Yates range was 250 - 272
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: TRIX on January 10, 2010, 06:59:15 PM
272? What show? I'm calling shenanigans.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 10, 2010, 07:26:18 PM
272? What show? I'm calling shenanigans.

97 Mr. O
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Sharma on January 11, 2010, 05:46:34 AM
Yes, Yes I notice this many times, believe me.

Good to see so many others do. Not just terrible, narrow quads but a repulsive, offensive and disgusting pregnant belly, no arms at all as well - just horrible, grotesque tattooed skin flapped over bones.

A fraud and stealer of Sandows.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: JasonH on January 11, 2010, 06:01:55 AM
Dorian was 5'10 250 - 255 lbs. Kai greene weighs the same and is 3 inches shorter

Doesn't mean a thing.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the sho
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 11, 2010, 06:16:36 AM
Not much separation and very narrow...Remember I said DAY OF SHOW, you know, where it actually matters...I'm not posting pics or video.

While I'm at it, his upper chest and arms suck... ;D

Good Day.

I guess back in the 90s before Jay, Ronnie and Kai brought the wheels we see today Dorian's were acceptable.  He was known for not squating because of an old injury.

Notice in photos how he points his toes out to make his legs appear larger than they are.

Just that assessment shows how biased you are.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: jprc10 on January 11, 2010, 06:24:27 AM
Not much separation and very narrow...Remember I said DAY OF SHOW, you know, where it actually matters...I'm not posting pics or video.

While I'm at it, his upper chest and arms suck... ;D

Good Day.

I guess back in the 90s before Jay, Ronnie and Kai brought the wheels we see today Dorian's were acceptable.  He was known for not squating because of an old injury.

Notice in photos how he points his toes out to make his legs appear larger than they are.

Really underdeveloped legs right?  ::)

(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2003/DorianYates2.jpg)
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on January 11, 2010, 06:26:47 AM
Really underdeveloped legs right?  ::)

(http://www.ifbb.com/halloffame/2003/DorianYates2.jpg)

you just backed him up with that picture
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: kiwiol on January 11, 2010, 06:30:03 AM
Dorian at his best makes Kai look like a pile of shit, sorry

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=313977.0;attach=354564;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=313977.0;attach=354565;image)
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: johnny1 on January 11, 2010, 06:31:52 AM
Not much separation and very narrow...Remember I said DAY OF SHOW, you know, where it actually matters...I'm not posting pics or video.

While I'm at it, his upper chest and arms suck... ;D

Good Day.

I guess back in the 90s before Jay, Ronnie and Kai brought the wheels we see today Dorian's were acceptable.  He was known for not squating because of an old injury.

Notice in photos how he points his toes out to make his legs appear larger than they are.
Dorian's quads were perfect for actual skeletal structure, @ his Best in 1993 or 95 his quads were excellent from all angles.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: jprc10 on January 11, 2010, 06:37:47 AM
Dorian at his best makes Kai look like a pile of shit, sorry

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=313977.0;attach=354564;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=313977.0;attach=354565;image)

Excellent pictures, these guys must be blind saying that Dorian had underdeveloped legs.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 11, 2010, 06:41:14 AM
HIs legs look deformed, always have

his sartorius muscles pop out, but everything else looks like crap.


Show me ONE picture where Dorian has clear separation and  between the vastus medialis, vastus lateralis and rectus femoris.

Show me ONE picture where he has striations on his quads.

They looked like big lumps of clay
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: kiwiol on January 11, 2010, 06:42:51 AM
Dorian's quads were perfect for actual skeletal structure, @ his Best in 1993 or 95 his quads were excellent from all angles.

They were good right through his competitive phase except for the 96 Mr Olympia, where he didn't fill out properly. But he looked better in the Grand Prix contest(s) that followed.

They were ridiculously huge in 97.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 11, 2010, 06:56:51 AM
Not much separation and very narrow...Remember I said DAY OF SHOW, you know, where it actually matters...I'm not posting pics or video.

While I'm at it, his upper chest and arms suck... ;D

Good Day.

I guess back in the 90s before Jay, Ronnie and Kai brought the wheels we see today Dorian's were acceptable.  He was known for not squating because of an old injury.

Notice in photos how he points his toes out to make his legs appear larger than they are.

his legs were good in 93, 94, & 95.. in 96 they were somehow small and flat.. in 97 they were injured, flat, and lacked separation!!..
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 11, 2010, 09:34:35 AM
you just backed him up with that picture


LOL!!!! YES!!! Exactly
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: dr.chimps on January 11, 2010, 11:25:05 AM
Always thought Dorian had kind of funky quads. Certainly, I wouldn't see him in any top ten. Funny enough, the pics where I thought his quads looked the best were those pics that surfaced about a year or two ago, that some mentioned might have been 'sweetened.' All I know is there are no pics of his legs looking that good on any Olympia stage.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the sho
Post by: jwb on January 11, 2010, 11:47:14 AM
dorian shared something with lee haney... very long legs for their height (with the bonus of a short torso and hence low, thick lat insertions).

Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Boost on January 11, 2010, 11:58:18 AM
He just doesn't have the sweep of many of the other top pro's

The calves are so good that they kinda balance it all out
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Hulkster on January 11, 2010, 04:58:49 PM
HIs legs look deformed, always have

his sartorius muscles pop out, but everything else looks like crap.


Show me ONE picture where Dorian has clear separation and  between the vastus medialis, vastus lateralis and rectus femoris.

Show me ONE picture where he has striations on his quads.

They looked like big lumps of clay

well said. but you are speaking to the dumb and delusional here..so they will pretend his quads were
"excellent from all angles" LOL  ::)
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: johnny1 on January 12, 2010, 03:14:50 PM
Oh Dear, no no your right these legs do not look excellent from all angles @ all, don't know what was i thinking, its great to see people with such Knowledge and experience in BB is leading the way with there unbiased wisdom.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Hulkster on January 12, 2010, 05:13:25 PM
dorian's quads look great when you don't compare them to someone who actually has good quads.. :-\
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: m8 on January 12, 2010, 05:18:28 PM
"underdeveloped" oh brother  ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173167.0;attach=335190;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173167.0;attach=335231;image)
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Earl1972 on January 12, 2010, 05:23:40 PM
read the first line of the first post "m8" ::)

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Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Hulkster on January 12, 2010, 05:25:52 PM
Quote
Not much separation

this was always the problem. lack of important cuts relative to others, especially his main competitors:
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: m8 on January 12, 2010, 05:28:19 PM
"underdeveloped"  ::)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=239441.0;attach=279524;image)
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Hulkster on January 12, 2010, 08:23:01 PM
compared to Ronnie they are underdeveloped :P
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Shockwave on January 12, 2010, 08:32:35 PM
compared to Ronnie they are underdeveloped :P
Different strokes. Personally, id take Dorians quads.. which are unique looking (IMHO Shawns do look better, FYI) over Ronnies misshapen turnips looking legs with toothpick calfs anyday. Ronnies balance on his legs is terrible.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Hulkster on January 12, 2010, 08:39:37 PM
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, id take Dorians quads.. which are unique looking


a lack of cuts does not make them 'unique'. it makes them poor as far as quads go in the world of bodybuilding.

thats like saying Ronnie's shitty calves are unique looking because they suck.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Hulkster on January 12, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
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over Ronnies misshapen turnips

LOL so just because ronnie actually has a great quad sweep (unlike dorian) they are "misshapen"?

LOL
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Shockwave on January 12, 2010, 08:43:03 PM

a lack of cuts does not make them 'unique'. it makes them poor as far as quads go in the world of bodybuilding.

thats like saying Ronnie's shitty calves are unique looking because they suck.

His quads have an overdeveloped Rectus Femoris *(correct me if that is the wrong part of the quadriceps) causing it to look like that. Its a genetic thing...
Ronnies Calves are small... not unique looking. Incorrect analogy, but nice try. ::)
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Shockwave on January 12, 2010, 08:45:35 PM
LOL so just because ronnie actually has a great quad sweep (unlike dorian) they are "misshapen"?

LOL
No. They look like turnips. Especially when he got heavier.
My OPINION is that I would take Dorians legs anyday over Ronnies.
Ronnie may have superior thigh development but his legs fail compared to Dorians for 1 reason.. Dorians legs have balance.
The calves and thighs are balance to each other.
Ronnies quads are rediculously huge, and his calves are way underdeveloped, causing a massive balance issue.
Besides I like the way Dorians quads look compared to Ronnies anyway.
And I like Shawns better than both of them.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: the_swami on January 13, 2010, 03:38:58 PM
Wiggs is spot on

Dorian really lacked outer quad sweep and seperation.

He was really hte most overrated Mr O

Weak arms, weak chest, weak upper legs, blocky waist
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 13, 2010, 04:38:48 PM
"underdeveloped" oh brother  ::)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173167.0;attach=335190;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=173167.0;attach=335231;image)

Go back and read the title ya fuckin' ding dong...THE DAY OF SHOW ONSTAGE!!! WHEN IT COUNTS.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 13, 2010, 04:40:43 PM
LOL so just because ronnie actually has a great quad sweep (unlike dorian) they are "misshapen"?

LOL

What a fuckin' mess :-X
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Wiggs on January 13, 2010, 04:42:33 PM
He just doesn't have the sweep of many of the other top pro's

The calves are so good that they kinda balance it all out

True....ZERO sweep...He points his toes out as an illusion of sweep.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Earl1972 on January 13, 2010, 06:15:06 PM
isn't it the proper way to point the toes out?

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Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Shockwave on January 13, 2010, 07:43:02 PM
isn't it the proper way to point the toes out?

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It is.
It's true tho.. Dorian doesn't have the sweep of a Ronnie. He didnt need to however.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 13, 2010, 07:51:10 PM
Dorians quads were deformed, plain and simple...they did not look normal and the muscle wasn't where it is supposed to be.

Yes they were BIG,,big and deformed.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Shockwave on January 13, 2010, 07:52:40 PM
Dorians quads were deformed, plain and simple...they did not look normal and the muscle wasn't where it is supposed to be.

Yes they were BIG,,big and deformed.
I wont disagree. I liked the way they look. To me they look unique. To each his own.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 13, 2010, 07:59:59 PM
I wont disagree. I liked the way they look. To me they look unique. To each his own.

you like them because they are attached to Dorian's nutsack, just like you.

If Flex wheelers quads looked like that you would rip them apart.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Shockwave on January 13, 2010, 10:55:52 PM
you like them because they are attached to Dorian's nutsack, just like you.

If Flex wheelers quads looked like that you would rip them apart.
Not exactly.
Don't put words in my mouth. I do like the way they look. And ill admit I am a Dorian fan, however I think he should have lost in 97, I didnt particularly like his look in 96 and I think a prime Ronnie would most likely beat Dorian. So does that make me on his nutsack?
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the sho
Post by: io856 on January 13, 2010, 10:58:29 PM

a lack of cuts does not make them 'unique'. it makes them poor as far as quads go in the world of bodybuilding.

thats like saying Ronnie's shitty calves are unique looking because they suck.
good point
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: calfzilla on January 13, 2010, 11:26:32 PM
Dorian was grainy, bigger, and ahead of the pack.  That's why he won. 
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the sho
Post by: io856 on January 13, 2010, 11:27:38 PM
Dorian was grainy, bigger, and ahead of the pack.  That's why he won. 
If you watch the pre judging videos... he brought an entirely different look to stage
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the sho
Post by: jprc10 on January 14, 2010, 05:42:16 AM
If you watch the pre judging videos... he brought an entirely different look to stage

That is true, Dorian looks even more impressive on video than on photos.
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Meso_z on January 14, 2010, 05:52:09 AM
Yes, Yes I notice this many times, believe me.

Good to see so many others do. Not just terrible, narrow quads but a repulsive, offensive and disgusting pregnant belly, no arms at all as well - just horrible, grotesque tattooed skin flapped over bones.

A fraud and stealer of Sandows.
youre such a joke Nasser. ::)
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Sherief Shalaby on January 14, 2010, 06:03:22 AM
now these are great legs :o nasser with no doubt had the best lower body in the 90s!!..
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the sho
Post by: Hulkster on January 14, 2010, 03:06:33 PM
good point

as always from me 8)
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: Hulkster on January 14, 2010, 03:07:17 PM
now these are great legs :o nasser with no doubt had the best lower body in the 90s!!..

whoah. what up with the massive tumor on his calf in that shot? LOL
Title: Re: Has anyone noticed how underdeveloped Dorian's quads were the day of the show?
Post by: m8 on January 14, 2010, 03:43:40 PM
Go back and read the title ya fuckin' ding dong...THE DAY OF SHOW ONSTAGE!!! WHEN IT COUNTS.

Go back and read my second post in this thread carefully ya fuckin' ding dong