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Title: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: kyomu on January 17, 2010, 05:46:24 AM
I still wonder...
And almost I vote for Marcus.

Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 17, 2010, 05:48:12 AM
Jay wins. It is not blocky building, it is bodybuilding.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: affeman on January 17, 2010, 05:49:06 AM
Ruhl 2002 beats any Version of Jay, any version of Dorian and gives most versions of Ronnie a run for his money.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: kyomu on January 17, 2010, 05:50:00 AM
Jay wins. It is not blocky building, it is bodybuilding.
He doesnt look blocky there. Look at the separation. Its deeper than Cutler.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: kyomu on January 17, 2010, 05:51:32 AM
Ruhl 2002 beats any Version of Jay, any version of Dorian and gives most versions of Ronnie a run for his money.
Agreed. Maybe only Ronnie of 2000 and 2003 can beat this monster? ???
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 17, 2010, 06:03:35 AM
This must be his best conditioning ever with reasonable ab control, but you can also notice his weak hamstrings, glutes & triceps @1:48, so Jay would still win.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: spinnis on January 17, 2010, 07:25:34 AM
I still wonder...
And almost I vote for Marcus.



Bodybuilding is the muscle!
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: kyomu on January 17, 2010, 07:30:16 AM
Bodybuilding is the muscle!
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Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Mars on January 17, 2010, 07:57:28 AM
he makes jay butler looks like a little kid.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: MCWAY on January 17, 2010, 03:27:50 PM
Agreed. Maybe only Ronnie of 2000 and 2003 can beat this monster? ???

Ummmm....there was Art Atwood, who actually beat him at the Toronto Pro, just a week later.

And, Darrem Charles beat Ruhl, one year later, at the Maximus Pro, with Ruhl looking similar to his 2002 NOC form.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: mesmorph78 on January 17, 2010, 05:49:18 PM
No because marcus has always been missing an importand bodypart .... Triceps
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: slaveboy1980 on January 17, 2010, 06:32:51 PM
No because marcus has always been missing an importand bodypart .... Triceps

hows the training going?
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: TRIX on January 18, 2010, 12:38:43 AM
its all lighting

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc338.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc361.jpg)
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Parker on January 18, 2010, 12:46:09 AM
Ruhl 2002 beats any Version of Jay, any version of Dorian and gives most versions of Ronnie a run for his money.
Until Ruhl turns around...and it's like Audi that he (does or used to work for), they can't hang with BMW--a lot of wieght, but no detail.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: TRIX on January 18, 2010, 01:05:57 AM
(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/_H4X2921_WBVQGXKVOL.jpg)
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2010, 02:40:44 AM
Ummmm....there was Art Atwood, who actually beat him at the Toronto Pro, just a week later.

And, Darrem Charles beat Ruhl, one year later, at the Maximus Pro, with Ruhl looking similar to his 2002 NOC form.
That is correct about Art atwood.

But, Darrem beating Rhul is a pure joke.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: calfzilla on January 18, 2010, 02:42:21 AM
I don't think we will ever see anything as close to Marcus NOC 2002 ever again, yet he didn't win.  Quite sad really, shows how messed up bbing as a "sport" is. 
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2010, 02:42:48 AM
its all lighting

(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc338.jpg)
(http://www.schwarzenegger.it/mro/coleman/rc361.jpg)
Maybe Ronnies physique in Rus GP was the best bbing physique in the history.
Markus cant beat this.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: kyomu on January 18, 2010, 02:43:51 AM
I don't think we will ever see anything as close to Marcus NOC 2002 ever again, yet he didn't win.  Quite sad really, shows how messed up bbing as a "sport" is. 
X2
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Parker on January 18, 2010, 02:49:00 AM
I don't think we will ever see anything as close to Marcus NOC 2002 ever again, yet he didn't win.  Quite sad really, shows how messed up bbing as a "sport" is. 
Marcus did win the 2002 NOC. Vic Martinez, who looked better than Marcus did the year before, won the 2003 NOC
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: calfzilla on January 18, 2010, 02:54:58 AM
Marcus did win the 2002 NOC. Vic Martinez, who looked better than Marcus did the year before, won the 2003 NOC
He did?  Well I guess you can tell how closely I follow the sport of oiled up men posing in thongs.   :-\ 



   And by the way Parker...OUTED!   ;D
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Parker on January 18, 2010, 03:03:37 AM
He did?  Well I guess you can tell how closely I follow the sport of oiled up men posing in thongs.   :-\ 



   And by the way Parker...OUTED!   ;D
I had to look it up... ;)

BTW, here' s is Grant Michaels as a female
http://contest.bodybuilding.com/gallery/contest/7232/event/3/mode/will/contestant/89802 (http://contest.bodybuilding.com/gallery/contest/7232/event/3/mode/will/contestant/89802)
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 18, 2010, 03:31:19 AM
He doesnt look blocky there. Look at the separation. Its deeper than Cutler.
He always get ripped off by the judges the man is a monster with cuts.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: calfzilla on January 18, 2010, 03:34:13 AM
I had to look it up... ;)

BTW, here' s is Grant Michaels as a female
http://contest.bodybuilding.com/gallery/contest/7232/event/3/mode/will/contestant/89802 (http://contest.bodybuilding.com/gallery/contest/7232/event/3/mode/will/contestant/89802)
I can't click on that!  Then I will be outed! 
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on January 18, 2010, 03:42:17 AM
I still wonder...
And almost I vote for Marcus.



No way. His delts overpower his arms way too obviously and his lat spread is shit from all sides (from the front, they seem ultra high and from the back his taper disappears even with the waistline in check so to speak). Jay is as ugly as he his but way more complete.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Royal Lion on January 18, 2010, 07:51:53 AM
Ruhl got hosed during the 2006 (I think it was 06) Gran Prix shows too....there are pics of him owning Cutler and Ronnie.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: MCWAY on January 18, 2010, 08:10:50 AM
That is correct about Art atwood.

But, Darrem beating Rhul is a pure joke.

Joke or not, Darrem has done it (more than once). Charles beat him at the Maximus Pro in 2003 and has placed higher than Ruhl at the Olympia twice (2005, 2007).

Granted, Ruhl was as smooth as a baby's backside at those Olympias (especially 2005). But that's Ruhl's issue, not that of Charles.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: MCWAY on January 18, 2010, 08:15:13 AM
Ruhl got hosed during the 2006 (I think it was 06) Gran Prix shows too....there are pics of him owning Cutler and Ronnie.

Ruhl doesn't own either man. He looks like a big block. Cutler looks like Steve Reeves (proportion-wise), compared to Ruhl.

And, as stated earlier, he's been beaten MULTIPLE TIMES, by guys MUCH SMALLER than himself (i.e. Darrem Charles).
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: tbombz on January 18, 2010, 09:27:12 AM
Marcus did win the 2002 NOC. Vic Martinez, who looked better than Marcus did the year before, won the 2003 NOC
victor looked great in 2003 but not better than marcus did in 02

(http://getbig.com/pics/noc/2003/men/bb/martinez01.jpg)

(http://muscletime.com/components/com_joomgallery/img_thumbnails//pro_bodybuilding_12505/night_of_champions_12849/2002_night_of_champions_59002/onstage_59003/2002-night-of-champions18_20090921_1983346206.jpg)

(http://getbig.com/pics/noc/2003/men/bb/martinez03.jpg)

(http://muscletime.com/components/com_joomgallery/img_thumbnails//pro_bodybuilding_12505/night_of_champions_12849/2002_night_of_champions_59002/onstage_59003/2002-night-of-champions39_20090829_1784532128.jpg)

(http://getbig.com/pics/noc/2003/men/bb/martinez02.jpg)

(http://femalemuscle.com/contests/night2002/118-1878Markus_RUHL_IMG.JPG)
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on January 18, 2010, 09:44:35 AM
Ruhl should walk around with Rammstein playing in the background at all times!! The man is a beast!!!
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 18, 2010, 11:03:11 AM
Ruhl got hosed during the 2006 (I think it was 06) Gran Prix shows too....there are pics of him owning Cutler and Ronnie.

exactly. RUHL has rightfully beaten jay at least once. truth is, when hes in top shape hes unbeatable for anyone but ronald
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2010, 11:37:14 AM
VIC had great legs upon turning pro 2001 to 03 then upper body grew and legs faded,then injury can he get them back to that level?
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: tbombz on January 18, 2010, 11:49:35 AM
exactly. RUHL has rightfully beaten jay at least once. truth is, when hes in top shape hes unbeatable for anyone but ronald
here is markus beating both mr olympia jay cutler and mr olympia ronnie coleman



(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc1989_thumbnail.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc1994_thumbnail.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2000_thumbnail.jpg)

[img/http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2015_thumbnail.jpg[/img]http://(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2030_thumbnail.jpg)
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: affeman on January 18, 2010, 11:52:12 AM
here is markus beating both mr olympia jay cutler and mr olympia ronnie coleman



(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc1989_thumbnail.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc1994_thumbnail.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2000_thumbnail.jpg)

[img/http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2015_thumbnail.jpg[/img]http://(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2030_thumbnail.jpg)

Ruhl OWNED these guys so bad at that show, it was not even funny. Ruhl deserved first, 2nd and 3rd place; Then comes the rest.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: regmac on January 18, 2010, 11:56:01 AM
Can Regmac of the 2009 Jr Cal beat Regmac of the 2008 Jr Cal?
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 18, 2010, 12:53:36 PM
Can Regmac of the 2009 Jr Cal beat Regmac of the 2008 Jr Cal?
I think you can do it man
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: regmac on January 18, 2010, 02:41:09 PM
I think you can do it man
On my way.  :)
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on January 18, 2010, 06:50:41 PM
here is markus beating both mr olympia jay cutler and mr olympia ronnie coleman



(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc1989_thumbnail.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc1994_thumbnail.jpg)

(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2000_thumbnail.jpg)

[img/http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2015_thumbnail.jpg[/img]http://(http://www.musculardevelopment.com/photos/thumbs/00abc2030_thumbnail.jpg)

so true, the funny thing is that he is so obviously the winner and yet he didnt even get 2nd he got THIRD.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Royal Lion on January 18, 2010, 07:39:11 PM
Ruhl doesn't own either man. He looks like a big block. Cutler looks like Steve Reeves (proportion-wise), compared to Ruhl.

And, as stated earlier, he's been beaten MULTIPLE TIMES, by guys MUCH SMALLER than himself (i.e. Darrem Charles).
Ruhl owned both men that night...check out the video, Ruhl was clearly better in all aspects imo.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: MCWAY on January 18, 2010, 09:38:31 PM
Ruhl owned both men that night...check out the video, Ruhl was clearly better in all aspects imo.

I beg to differ. His waist is too wide and his triceps are too underdeveloped.

Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: MCWAY on January 18, 2010, 09:41:16 PM
He always get ripped off by the judges the man is a monster with cuts.

Yet this monster struggles against bodybuilders with better proportions. Again, I refer you to the fact that Darrem Charles has beaten him three times (twice at the Olympia and once, to win the 2003 Maximus Pro).
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: TRIX on January 19, 2010, 10:20:21 AM
no ronnie coleman nut hug - but ruhl is closer to the camera in those pics, the only thing he wins is his synthol shoulders...
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: regmac on January 19, 2010, 07:39:54 PM
no ronnie coleman nut hug - but ruhl is closer to the camera in those pics, the only thing he wins is his synthol shoulders...
So that great delt routine in Flex May 2002 was a lie?   
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Earl1972 on January 19, 2010, 07:51:03 PM
bob chick got 2nd to marcus at this show

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Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: Azn Muscle on January 19, 2010, 09:48:01 PM
All bee pollen!
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: calfzilla on January 19, 2010, 10:19:11 PM
Lots of oiled up men in thongs with big muscles in this thread. 
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: MCWAY on January 20, 2010, 06:16:34 AM
Again, if you can't own Darrem Charles, you can't own Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler.
Title: Re: Can Marcus of NOC 2002 beat Jay of 2009 Mr.O?
Post by: affeman on January 20, 2010, 07:50:56 AM
I beg to differ. His waist is too wide and his triceps are too underdeveloped.



LOL Coleman was about to give birth any minute, and unfortunately you can't judge his triceps there as he forgot them at home.

Cutler was like 10 weeks out lol.