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Title: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: James on January 21, 2010, 11:06:39 AM
Since Fedor fought Cro Cop in Pride a few years ago, one has gone onto legend status, the other one has gone to dropping out of the rankings.

But of all the fights Fedor has had since leaving Pride, who did he beat that Cro Cop would not have beat also ?

Not trying to take anything away from Fedor, I just question the fact that since leaving Pride, has he really gone onto fight anyone highly ranked ? where as Cro Cop has gone onto fighting some good fighters.
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: chixlegs on January 21, 2010, 11:10:12 AM
I agree and have said many times, I love Fedor, but he is not fighting the best fighters in the world.  Its like watching Michael Jordan play basketball in Canada instead of the NBA.  Fedor rocked in Pride, but he looked like shit in his last fight I thought.  He struggled against Brett Rogers until the knockout punch that saved him. 

Honestly, I think he'd lose to Brock Lesnar right now.  I really do.  I don't think he could handle Lesnar's size and power.
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: George Whorewell on January 21, 2010, 11:45:03 AM
Cro Cop has looked like crap since he left pride. Off the top of my head, Silvia, Arlovski and Rogers would have beaten him imo.
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: James on January 21, 2010, 11:59:07 AM
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Cro Cop has looked like crap since he left pride. Off the top of my head, Silvia, Arlovski and Rogers would have beaten him imo.

I think CroCop would do to Tim Silvia, what he did to Josh Barnett, and I think he would beat Rogers and Arlovski too.

Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: big L dawg on January 21, 2010, 12:33:58 PM
I think CroCop would do to Tim Silvia, what he did to Josh Barnett, and I think he would beat Rogers and Arlovski too.



crocop's only wins since pride ended is against Eddie Sanchez,tatsuya mizuno,hong choi,& mostapha Al-turk...Hell I would guess 80% of MMA fans don't even know who these guys are which says it all...

If you think those fighters are even remotely comperable to who Fedor has fought & beatin since pride ended your delusional....Matt lindland,tim silvia,adrei arlovski,Brett rogers....theres no comparison.....

And no...at this point crocop would not beat Barnett,Tim Silvia or rogers....
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: HICKSON on January 21, 2010, 01:23:50 PM
crocop's only wins since pride ended is against Eddie Sanchez,tatsuya mizuno,hong choi,& mostapha Al-turk...Hell I would guess 80% of MMA fans don't even know who these guys are which says it all...

If you think those fighters are even remotely comperable to who Fedor has fought & beatin since pride ended your delusional....Matt lindland,tim silvia,adrei arlovski,Brett rogers....theres no comparison.....

And no...at this point crocop would not beat Barnett,Tim Silvia or rogers....

I agree but I also think tha a Cro -Cop that fired his camp & is getting back to basics is a real threat for a few more years.
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: big L dawg on January 21, 2010, 01:55:08 PM
I agree but I also think tha a Cro -Cop that fired his camp & is getting back to basics is a real threat for a few more years.

I would def like to see co-cop get back to form...at the very least see him remain competitive....however at 36 years old he will not be able to match the speed of the young up & comers like a 25 year old dos Santos who constantly beat him to the punch in there fight....father time is harder on some than others but it eventually gets us all.....
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: James on January 21, 2010, 02:24:24 PM
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crocop's only wins since pride ended is against Eddie Sanchez,tatsuya mizuno,hong choi,& mostapha Al-turk...Hell I would guess 80% of MMA fans don't even know who these guys are which says it all...

If you think those fighters are even remotely comperable to who Fedor has fought & beatin since pride ended your delusional....Matt lindland,tim silvia,adrei arlovski,Brett rogers....theres no comparison.....

And no...at this point crocop would not beat Barnett,Tim Silvia or rogers....

Cro Cop has also fought Dos Santos, Alistair Overeem and Gabriel Gonzaga, and I would put those 3 above any fighters Fedor has fought recently, especially Dos Santos.....who I think will eventually be a Heavyweight Champion

So if you think the fighters Fedor has fought since leaving Pride are better than: Dos Santos, Alistair Overeem and Gabriel Gonzaga,  you are the one who is delusional.

Since you missed the point of my first post: My point is that I dont think Fedor has fought as good of Fighters since leaving Pride, as Cro Cop has (Dos Santos, Alistair Overeem, Gabriel Gonzaga)




Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: suckmymuscle on January 22, 2010, 02:40:03 AM
I agree and have said many times, I love Fedor, but he is not fighting the best fighters in the world.  Its like watching Michael Jordan play basketball in Canada instead of the NBA.  Fedor rocked in Pride, but he looked like shit in his last fight I thought.  He struggled against Brett Rogers until the knockout punch that saved him. 

Honestly, I think he'd lose to Brock Lesnar right now.  I really do.  I don't think he could handle Lesnar's size and power.

  The fact that Rogers is 5" taller and 40 lbs heavier than Fedor doesen't mean anything to you? Seriously, which other fighter on the planet can knock out an opponent that is 40 lbs heavier than he is? No one but Fedor. His fight with Brett Rogers was like a fight between a heavyweight and a middleweight, and the middleweight won.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: RancherRanger on January 22, 2010, 08:59:45 AM
I miss the Pride days, but until Fedor fights in the UFC, his legacy will always have a question beside it.  Crocop is done.  Wanderlei unfortunately is also done, he's taken to many hits to the head it seems.
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: big L dawg on January 22, 2010, 11:06:52 AM
I miss the Pride days, but until Fedor fights in the UFC, his legacy will always have a question beside it.  Crocop is done.  Wanderlei unfortunately is also done, he's taken to many hits to the head it seems.

if wanderlei doesn't beat bisbing then yea he's done....but all wanderlei's fights have been against top opponets.he was thrown right to the wolves in the UFC any good fighter could have lost those fights against that type competition.....but yea he is prob close to being done....
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: marty31672 on January 22, 2010, 08:26:57 PM
cro cop changed his name the official ufc roster says mirko flipovich now
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: big L dawg on January 23, 2010, 09:34:13 AM
cro cop changed his name the official ufc roster says mirko flipovich now

I try not to bust your balls to much as it's obvious you have a touch of down syndrome & had to have suffered from alcohol & cigarette use while you was still in the womb....but I gotta say your one of the dumbest fucks I've ever had the displeasure to encounter on getbig....and theres no shortage on GB so thats sayin sumthin....
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: HICKSON on January 23, 2010, 01:10:00 PM
I try not to bust your balls to much as it's obvious you have a touch of down syndrome & had to have suffered from alcohol & cigarette use while you was still in the womb....but I gotta say your one of the dumbest fucks I've ever had the displeasure to encounter on getbig....and theres no shortage on GB so thats sayin sumthin....

QFT!
Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: big L dawg on January 23, 2010, 01:50:40 PM
QFT!
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Title: Re: Fedor and Cro Cop
Post by: johnny1 on January 23, 2010, 09:28:22 PM
Cro Cop has also fought Dos Santos, Alistair Overeem and Gabriel Gonzaga, and I would put those 3 above any fighters Fedor has fought recently, especially Dos Santos.....who I think will eventually be a Heavyweight Champion

So if you think the fighters Fedor has fought since leaving Pride are better than: Dos Santos, Alistair Overeem and Gabriel Gonzaga,  you are the one who is delusional.

Since you missed the point of my first post: My point is that I dont think Fedor has fought as good of Fighters since leaving Pride, as Cro Cop has (Dos Santos, Alistair Overeem, Gabriel Gonzaga)





Thats right james he has and unlike some fighters takes on all comers good enough to step up to the plate