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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: crownshep on January 23, 2010, 08:12:00 AM
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Back training with Flex Wheeler and Chris Cormier.
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Cormier is one of the coolest bodybuilder I hope he ll be back on top as the old days. He deserve it.
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Those were the days.
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Lukewarm training at it's best. Flex looks great, but I'd rather look like Tom Prince, who looks huge beyond belief.
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Never really liked hor flex looked, but man he looks amazing in that video, and SICK back conditioning lol Damn.
cost him his liver or kidney or whatever it was, but it did look cool ::) ::) ;D
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I think Flex looks almost cartoonish,is this before or after he started using synthol.
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Flex trains like a homo, I am sorry. Yeah he was prob real close to the comp but all the shit he was on gimme a break
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Flex trains like a homo, I am sorry. Yeah he was prob real close to the comp but all the shit he was on gimme a break
Do you know how you feel short before competition at that body composition? These guys must be carefull not to pass out any step they're going.
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Flex trains like a homo, I am sorry. Yeah he was prob real close to the comp but all the shit he was on gimme a break
Guys like Dorian and Ronnie never used pre-contest as an excuse to train like a wimp. No coincidence that they accomplished what they did.
Flex himself has said he only did it for the fame and money. And it shows in the clip.
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Guys like Dorian and Ronnie never used pre-contest as an excuse to train like a wimp. No coincidence that they accomplished what they did.
Flex himself has said he only did it for the fame and money. And it shows in the clip.
Thank you. Besides if anyone could use their depleted state as an excuse it would be D and Ron. Flex was always a little off and obviously cheated on his diet so he couldnt have been too depleted
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So screaming and cheating is to train hard? I think that's a big misunderstanding from people around.
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TOM P looked HUGE at the beginning of the clip! :D
Flex had a great physique back then.
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So screaming and cheating is to train hard? I think that's a big misunderstanding from people around.
Deadlifting 800 lb and shoulder pressing 160 lb dumbells IS training hard, regardless of whether the guy (or his training partner) is screaming or not.
Look at Flex not even breaking a sweat or looking psyched up. He acts like he's playing pool, lol
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When Flex once said he was going to retire, Flex (mag) asked all the other pros their oppinion. Kevin Levrone said Flex was just a lazy person looking for an excuse not to train or compete, I though Kev was just cocky but this vid shows otherwise
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Deadlifting 800 lb and shoulder pressing 160 lb dumbells IS training hard, regardless of whether the guy (or his training partner) is screaming or not.
Look at Flex not even breaking a sweat or looking psyched up. He acts like he's playing pool, lol
Training smart trumps training hard, listen to Bob Chick.
Not everyone can train like Dorian or Ronnie and getting optimal results from it. It's all individually.
Getbig is getting better and better, there are really guys who wanna give that guy training advices. :D
(http://magicsport.pl/img/content/newsy_galeria_zdjec/5_flexwheelerplecy.jpg)
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flex looked great
his training sucked ( why is charles helping him to do 10 chins) ???
and his attitude sucked.... he always walked around like the world owed him a favour.... he hated training
i can still rememebr when the asked the pros how many hrs would they be doing in the gym once they retired flex was the only one who said ZERO
narcisstic arrogant... bad attitude... ego way too big
yes he looked great .... but he overestimated... cocky guy
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flex looked great
his training sucked ( why is charles helping him to do 10 chins) ???
and his attitude sucked.... he always walked around like the world owed him a favour.... he hated training
i can still rememebr when the asked the pros how many hrs would they be doing in the gym once they retired flex was the only one who said ZERO
narcisstic arrogant... bad attitude... ego way too big
yes he looked great .... but he overestimated... cocky guy
Flex has always stated that he wouldn't go to the gym after he retired. He said this way before he got his pro card. There are vids on YouTube where he was in his younger 20s and he has stated this. The one thing that was consistent with Flex. I think he loved martial arts better than bbing, but bbing was a way he could pay the bills. And he was kinda pushed in that direction by people who said he had the genetics. I think he like bbing as a hobby, not as a profession. What's odd, is that after he retired, he was the one, not Shawn or Kevin, that kept up with the weights. Why?? Well, it had become part of Flex's persona, who he is, without bbing Flex is basically nothing. Hate to say it.
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Training smart trumps training hard, listen to Bob Chick.
Not everyone can train like Dorian or Ronnie and getting optimal results from it. It's all individually.
Getbig is getting better and better, there are really guys who wanna give that guy training advices. :D
(http://magicsport.pl/img/content/newsy_galeria_zdjec/5_flexwheelerplecy.jpg)
I never said everyone can train like Dorian or Ronnie. They can't and they don't. I'm saying training hard gives you a degree of muscularity that you can't have if you train like Flex in that clip.
Everyone trains their own way. But people who lift harder will always get more out of lifting than people who train with very little intensity. The latter may have better genetics and may beat the former at times, but that doesn't change the fact.
And just because Flex looked the way he did, don't assume he knows everything there is to know and is omniscient / infallible when it comes to knowledge about things like anatomy and nutrition. Makes you look naive ;)
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I think Flex looks almost cartoonish,is this before or after he started using synthol.
This is at the PEAK of his synthol use.
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Deadlifting 800 lb and shoulder pressing 160 lb dumbells IS training hard, regardless of whether the guy (or his training partner) is screaming or not.
Look at Flex not even breaking a sweat or looking psyched up. He acts like he's playing pool, lol
I don't agree, he look pretty exhausted. Those pull-down have a very nice strict form. U can really see how his lats are working from full stretch to full contraction. That's a rare sight when u see people do heavy back excercises, their movement are almost zero.
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I don't agree, he look pretty exhausted. Those pull-down have a very nice strict form. U can really see how his lats are working from full stretch to full contraction. That's a rare sight when u see people do heavy back excercises, their movement are almost zero.
Haha ;D I stopped watching after 3 mins cause he was training like a wimp. Still, even Charles Glass has said Flex and Paul were a couple of the laziest guys he's trained.
In all fairness, Flex trained hard till the accident he had in 94. And by no means am I knocking on his physique.
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Haha ;D I stopped watching after 3 mins cause he was training like a wimp. Still, even Charles Glass has said Flex and Paul were a couple of the laziest guys he's trained.
In all fairness, Flex trained hard till the accident he had in 94. And by no means am I knocking on his physique.
I think the accident shook him, mentally and physically to the point where he had to overcompensate (coming in heavy, later synhol use). It was said that Flex before his accident did throw around heavier weight. But it's odd that his Mass Construction vid in 96-97, he lifted heavier weight (it was filmed after the Mr. O), than his 93 vid Hardbody (filmed one week prior to the Mr. O). Yet he looked better in 93.
Also, due to his neck injury he was told he couldn't do certain exercises, like squats (bar near his neck), so he did hack squats instead.
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Tom prince is fuckin jacked
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I think the accident shook him, mentally and physically to the point where he had to overcompensate (coming in heavy, later synhol use). It was said that Flex before his accident did throw around heavier weight. But it's odd that his Mass Construction vid in 96-97, he lifted heavier weight (it was filmed after the Mr. O), than his 93 vid Hardbody (filmed one week prior to the Mr. O). Yet he looked better in 93.
Also, due to his neck injury he was told he couldn't do certain exercises, like squats (bar near his neck), so he did hack squats instead.
No doubt. Another thing is that Flex used to train with Rico and Chris Cormier, who both said they all lifted harder when they trained together.
And Flex is the only guy I know on whom Synthol looked good, lol. But it makes his arms look stupid now.
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Those guys are blessed that they don't have to train hard to get those results..amazing
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Lots of haters in this thread.
I'd give my let nut to look like flex for one day. He looks phenominal in that vid :o
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Intensity is quite a subjective term, and I think we confuse it with simply meaning how heavy the weight someone is throwing around. I know for myself... I tend to be bigger then most other trainers, (on or off gear), but I am not very strong, in relation to my size. I often see others that will throw around a lot more weight then I do, but I look considerably better then they do.
Then again, I am very anal about using good form, so I could probably throw around more weight then I do, but I usually leave my ego out of it.
I am kind of reminded of Vince Taylor...who used good form, but always what seemed like the lightest weights around...but who knows.. they may have been Heavy to him. Size and strength do not have a direct correlation.
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Lots of haters in this thread.
I'd give my let nut to look like flex for one day. He looks phenominal in that vid :o
It's kinda sad that that video is 11 years old and noone standing on a pro stage today comes even close to these 2 guys. :-\
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It's kinda sad that that video is 11 years old and noone standing on a pro stage today comes even close to these 2 guys. :-\
Not just sad, but PATHETIC!!!!
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Not just sad, but PATHETIC!!!!
with continued improvements: Dennis Wolf and Phil Heath are up there. Dexter is definitely in the same league.
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Intensity is quite a subjective term, and I think we confuse it with simply meaning how heavy the weight someone is throwing around. I know for myself... I tend to be bigger then most other trainers, (on or off gear), but I am not very strong, in relation to my size. I often see others that will throw around a lot more weight then I do, but I look considerably better then they do.
Then again, I am very anal about using good form, so I could probably throw around more weight then I do, but I usually leave my ego out of it.
I am kind of reminded of Vince Taylor...who used good form, but always what seemed like the lightest weights around...but who knows.. they may have been Heavy to him. Size and strength do not have a direct correlation.
Lifting heavy doesn't always means lifting intense, but it also doesn't mean that it's always not intense either. No one who sees Ronnie deadlifting 800 lb in The unbelievable is going to say that wasn't intense. Look at Flex or Paul T bar rowing 200 lb and tell me it's no different than Ronnie T bar rowing 9 x 45 lb plates, breaking the damn handle he was using and having a nose bleed afterwards.
People say size and strength do not have a direct correlation, but the people who are strong and aren't very big simply don't have the genetics to look big. They won't get big if they stopped lifting heavy and switch to cables or lifting light either.
And form is one of the most overrated things in lifting. It's good to know about proper form when you start lifting, so you have some guidelines to go by, but most experienced lifters know what suits their body best. People with the best form don't have the best builds nor is perfect form or the weight you lift a guarantee against injury.
You can perform any exercise with intensity, be it on a free weight or a cable or whatever. My point is that there are guys who lift intensely and the majority who don't. By their own admission, guys like Flex (post injury) and Paul Dillett belong to the latter group.
Speaking of intensity, here's a great pic
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wheeler literally dwarfing cormier in that vid.
his shoulders make cormier's looks like marbles.
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Flex's traps and neck look pathetic when hes wearing the tshirt.
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at that point wheeler was so swole just picking up and patting a bottle of ketchup is getting him pumped.his 93/93 detail look had faded a bit,but man he was cartoon thick...
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Wow, not one single striation or vein in Flex's shoulders.
He does look awsome, but also a little TOO puffy from the synthol.