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Title: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 24, 2010, 04:36:17 PM
Shootout so far, as expected. The Saints are hitting Favre fairly often which could take its toll in the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Earl1972 on January 24, 2010, 07:49:44 PM
same old favre

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Post by: tonymctones on January 24, 2010, 07:51:21 PM
hahhah farve needs to retire...the jets made it farther with a rookie qb than they did with him and made it just as far with a lesser team...

sorry farve lovers the little cry baby needs to call it quits
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Earl1972 on January 24, 2010, 08:04:11 PM
no point in having great regular season stats if you know he will blow it in the playoffs

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Post by: thelamefalsehood on January 24, 2010, 08:11:01 PM
no point in having great regular season stats if you know he will blow it in the playoffs

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Exactly,history will only show that final throw/interception for this season.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: tonymctones on January 24, 2010, 08:15:02 PM
Exactly,history will only show that final throw/interception for this season.
dont forget his whining and waffling for the last 2 seasons
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 24, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
Yeah, the constant fumbles by the rest of the Vikings had nothing to do with the loss.......it was all Favre.....and without Favre last year and Tardvaris Jackson at QB how did the Vikes fair ?  No question he made them a far better team and is still a very good QB.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: thelamefalsehood on January 24, 2010, 08:16:43 PM
dont forget his whining and waffling for the last 2 seasons

I know, I think all his shenanigans over the past two years have really tarnished the way people will remember him.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: thelamefalsehood on January 24, 2010, 08:17:42 PM
Yeah, the constant fumbles by the rest of the Vikings had nothing to do with the loss.......it was all Favre.....and without Favre last year and Tardvaris Jackson at QB how did the Vikes fair ?  No question he made them a far better team and is still a very good QB.

Blah, blah, Mr. antagonist/I told you so, shows up right on time ;)
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 24, 2010, 08:20:37 PM
Blah, blah, Mr. antagonist/I told you so, shows up right on time ;)

You know I'm right just like I was right about lil lane Kiffin and tried to warn you.... ;D
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: tonymctones on January 24, 2010, 08:22:16 PM
Yeah, the constant fumbles by the rest of the Vikings had nothing to do with the loss.......it was all Favre.....and without Favre last year and Tardvaris Jackson at QB how did the Vikes fair ?  No question he made them a far better team and is still a very good QB.
same could be said for Rick Sanchez after all they went farther with him than they did with farve... ;)

P.S. the starting QB would have been Sage Rosenfels this year if farve hadnt waffled and decided to hold another team hostage for the preseason  ::)

I will give you though that the fumbles cost them iono if it cost them the game but it did cost them...
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Earl1972 on January 24, 2010, 09:14:31 PM
dont forget his whining and waffling for the last 2 seasons

more like last 5 seasons

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Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 24, 2010, 10:39:40 PM
no comment ::)
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Post by: Fury on January 24, 2010, 10:44:09 PM
Tavaris was awful. He was a mediocre QB who did not know how to win and it was widely acknowledged that the Vikes have had everything but a QB in place for a few years now. Favre, despite the fuck up, is still a very good QB and had them within a stone's throw of the Super Bowl. I hate the guy but there's no denying the Vikes took a step in the right direction with him at the helm.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 25, 2010, 08:35:20 AM
Tavaris was awful. He was a mediocre QB who did not know how to win and it was widely acknowledged that the Vikes have had everything but a QB in place for a few years now. Favre, despite the fuck up, is still a very good QB and had them within a stone's throw of the Super Bowl. I hate the guy but there's no denying the Vikes took a step in the right direction with him at the helm.

This is a post I can totally respect.

And Favre with the bicep problem on the Jets isn't a fair comparison.  He was healthy this season and played GREAT.  Hope to see him back next season....he's good for the NFL and game.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: regmac on January 25, 2010, 12:13:15 PM
This is a post I can totally respect.

And Favre with the bicep problem on the Jets isn't a fair comparison.  He was healthy this season and played GREAT.  Hope to see him back next season....he's good for the NFL and game.
phuq Pharve
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 25, 2010, 01:13:05 PM
phuq Pharve

haha, easy now Keith Brooking......... Favre > Romo
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Beefjake on January 26, 2010, 01:08:01 AM
Vikings lost it more than saint won.Favre was solely holding Vikings together in the second half.
I mean, are you supposed to fear that your TB or receivers will just drop the ball again.
This in a Confrence final?
Where was the pressure on Brees? AP had 3TDs sure and good yards but, don't lose the football!!

There sure was no Brady rule on QB punisment on this game...

Actually this game was a lot like the latest Rocky movie :)

Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: body88 on January 26, 2010, 06:14:45 AM
Vikings lost it more than saint won.Favre was solely holding Vikings together in the second half.
I mean, are you supposed to fear that your TB or receivers will just drop the ball again.
This in a Confrence final?
Where was the pressure on Brees? AP had 3TDs sure and good yards but, don't lose the football!!

There sure was no Brady rule on QB punisment on this game...

Actually this game was a lot like the latest Rocky movie :)


The Brady rule = defender is not allowed to lunge at the knees after being downed or tackled to the ground.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 26, 2010, 10:46:45 AM

The Brady rule = defender is not allowed to lunge at the knees after being downed or tackled to the ground.

The high/low hit on Favre was a 15 year penalty. It completely changed the game and how Favre played it.

I love how all the critics say that Favre should have ran with the ball instead of mistakenly throwing the INT. The guy could hardly put weight on the ankle after the last hit. Not to mention he's 40 years old and never been known as a scrambler even in his younger days.

Maybe if his O-line would have given him better protection, Favre wouldn't been flushed out of the pocket to the right side and throwing across his body. Or maybe if Harvin, Peterson(3 times) and Berrian not fumbled the ball, Favre wouldn't have been in that position. Or how about the ridiculous 12 man in the huddle penalty the play prior?

Favre had a terrific year. An amazing year, given his age. People are forgetting that he threw four TD's the previous week against Dallas so it's not like he stunk it up completely in the playoffs. He was the MVP for the Vikings and his presence on the team was the main reason the Vikings were one game from the Superbowl.

It's ridiculous how badly he's getting slammed right now in the press. I know it sounds like I have a man crush but I respect Favre like crazy. He's a true warrior. Name another QB that has had his longetivity or played so well at his age. He can keep playing as long as he feels like it. His legacy is intact no matter how long he keeps playing.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Beefjake on January 26, 2010, 11:31:03 AM

The Brady rule = defender is not allowed to lunge at the knees after being downed or tackled to the ground.

Brady rule = Say to referee " they can't do that "

GUTS: I totally agree with you about running with it. 3yds max.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 27, 2010, 08:08:46 AM
The high/low hit on Favre was a 15 year penalty. It completely changed the game and how Favre played it.

I love how all the critics say that Favre should have ran with the ball instead of mistakenly throwing the INT. The guy could hardly put weight on the ankle after the last hit. Not to mention he's 40 years old and never been known as a scrambler even in his younger days.

Maybe if his O-line would have given him better protection, Favre wouldn't been flushed out of the pocket to the right side and throwing across his body. Or maybe if Harvin, Peterson(3 times) and Berrian not fumbled the ball, Favre wouldn't have been in that position. Or how about the ridiculous 12 man in the huddle penalty the play prior?

Favre had a terrific year. An amazing year, given his age. People are forgetting that he threw four TD's the previous week against Dallas so it's not like he stunk it up completely in the playoffs. He was the MVP for the Vikings and his presence on the team was the main reason the Vikings were one game from the Superbowl.

It's ridiculous how badly he's getting slammed right now in the press. I know it sounds like I have a man crush but I respect Favre like crazy. He's a true warrior. Name another QB that has had his longetivity or played so well at his age. He can keep playing as long as he feels like it. His legacy is intact no matter how long he keeps playing.

EXCELLEMT post and agree with everything you have to say.  Sounds like a conversation I had on Monday with a friend about it.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 27, 2010, 10:18:31 AM
EXCELLEMT post and agree with everything you have to say.  Sounds like a conversation I had on Monday with a friend about it.

Thanks dude. So many Favre haters. I don't get it. people are so focusing on how he's tarnishing his legacy. Do you really think Favre gives a shit what these haters are saying? He obviously can still play. It's not his fault the Viking lost.

He's a professional athlete playing in the NFL. That's what he does. He's been doing for almost 20 years, which is amazing.

And guess what else......he's not washed up, he's just 40 years old. See you in 2010, Brett.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Beefjake on January 27, 2010, 11:56:31 AM
People seem so upset that Favre " held (choose NFL Team) hostage "

NFL and the teams in it care so much about the individual themselves.
Can't do it - you're fired - somebody else will.

If a 40year old guy can walk in to a pro football team, post camp, and be welcomed as a starting QB. Is it his false?
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Earl1972 on January 27, 2010, 12:03:29 PM
when one player does it for 5 -6 years and holds a press confernce crying "i have nothing left to give", it gets a bit annoying

he choked in the big game, something he has done every year since 1998

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Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 27, 2010, 12:25:36 PM
when one player does it for 5 -6 years and holds a press confernce crying "i have nothing left to give", it gets a bit annoying

he choked in the big game, something he has done every year since 1998

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I disagree. I don't think it's his fault they lost the game. The Vikings had every oppotunity to put that game away early on.

He's definitely played poorly in big playoff games in the past but last weeks game was not one of them. There was so much more that lead to the loss than that final interception. It only allowed the game to go into sudden death. Favre never saw the field in the extra period.

Who's to say Longwell could've connected from 53 yards even if Favre had limped that extra three yards?
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Earl1972 on January 27, 2010, 02:14:35 PM
i don't put all the blame on him, but once again he threw an int at the worst possible time

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Post by: The Showstoppa on January 27, 2010, 04:26:09 PM
People seem so upset that Favre " held (choose NFL Team) hostage "

NFL and the teams in it care so much about the individual themselves.
Can't do it - you're fired - somebody else will.

If a 40year old guy can walk in to a pro football team, post camp, and be welcomed as a starting QB. Is it his false?

Very true.  Where are all these people to bash a team when they release a guy because the team "wants to move in another direction?"  The NFL is a cut-throat business where coaches with winning records are fired, players are cut for the salary cap, etc.... yet everybody seems so offended that a guy who hasn't missed a game in damn near 20 years wants to take time to make a decision about HIS life/career.
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Earl1972 on January 27, 2010, 04:34:51 PM
The NFL is a cut-throat business where coaches with winning records are fired, players are cut for the salary cap, etc.... yet everybody seems so offended that a guy who hasn't missed a game in damn near 20 years wants to take time to make a decision about HIS life/career.

again he has been discussing this "decision" for the last 5 - 6 years, he cried "i have nothing left to give" and he also "retired" with the jets


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Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 27, 2010, 06:34:38 PM
again he has been discussing this "decision" for the last 5 - 6 years, he cried "i have nothing left to give" and he also "retired" with the jets


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So?  Maybe thats how he felt at the time, but changing your mind isn't illegal.  And with the jets he had the bicep issue, which was fixed and he went on to have a great season. 
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Earl1972 on January 27, 2010, 06:51:57 PM
So?  Maybe thats how he felt at the time, but changing your mind isn't illegal.  And with the jets he had the bicep issue, which was fixed and he went on to have a great season. 

5 - 6 straight years of not making up his mind, it's very annoying that's all i'm saying, i'm tired of his drama hijacking the sports news

the great chuck noll said that once you start to consider retirement, it's time to go

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Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 28, 2010, 10:29:15 AM
5 - 6 straight years of not making up his mind, it's very annoying that's all i'm saying, i'm tired of his drama hijacking the sports news

the great chuck noll said that once you start to consider retirement, it's time to go

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He's one to talk. He should have considered retirement by the mid-80's. Great example of a coach that stayed on waaaayyyy too long after his glory years in the 70's. he stayed on forever because Rooney wasn't going to fire him. Attempting to make the Steelers a winner with Mark Malone as your QB was a misguided case of ego and pride.

Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: Earl1972 on January 28, 2010, 11:32:16 AM
He's one to talk. He should have considered retirement by the mid-80's. Great example of a coach that stayed on waaaayyyy too long after his glory years in the 70's. he stayed on forever because Rooney wasn't going to fire him. Attempting to make the Steelers a winner with Mark Malone as your QB was a misguided case of ego and pride.



he wasn't considering retirement like favre is/was

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Post by: Beefjake on January 28, 2010, 11:49:48 AM
again he has been discussing this "decision" for the last 5 - 6 years, he cried "i have nothing left to give" and he also "retired" with the jets
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Jets retirement was business decision. Jets avoided all the penalties they'd have if they just traded him.

(Edit after 15min...)

Well, I'm in my mid thirties, I don't fan anybody, to any extent anyway, not anymore.
Mid-late '90s I hated Favre. I hated his style of backyard football, something great out of nothing. He beat great Dallas team and won, my favorite character Bill Parcells', Patriots in the Super Bowl.
Then 2006 internet made following NFL so much easier in northern europe.
I found that he was still doing it, ok, cool.

In 2007 I was already sure that if somebody could stop the Patriots it was Favre and his backyard football.
Well... you know.

Now we don't get all those US news that probably followed him all too much in the next offseason. So it didn't annoy me.

Jets year was ok, made them better for sure. Faded with injury in the end, threw pics and fumbled. Sigh, done, maybe?

Then I saw his first pic with Vikings, he looked old!(But not that much older than me) Then the wins started and I started to believe.
Daumn, this year! Hell yeah. I was so afraid before that Dallas PO game. And it went like breeze. ( pun )

I know that everybody plays with pain in the NFL. But how often do you see it nowadays like you did last Sunday ?
I mean he was set to fall, but he didn't. And then maybe he did? He wasn't perfect, but he was a warrior. Maybe he is attraction junkie. Primadonna and all that.
Of the field.

No guts, no glory - last sunday we had both!

( Apologize for this. I'll address this issue next time... I guess right before, or after training camp )
Title: Re: VIKINGS/SAINTS
Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 28, 2010, 12:37:50 PM
he wasn't considering retirement like favre is/was

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Right. My point was that he should've considered it a lot earlier instead of continuing to collect a paycheck off the novelty of his success in the late '70's. Winning bought him a lot of time and extra years. After winning 4 titles, he didn't win shit for the next 12 seasons.
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Post by: Earl1972 on January 28, 2010, 12:57:49 PM
maybe he should've considered it, but he didn't at least not until the end

favre has been considering it for years

do you really believe it's "highly unlikely" he'll be back?

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Post by: UPINTHEMGUTS on January 28, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
maybe he should've considered it, but he didn't at least not until the end

favre has been considering it for years

do you really believe it's "highly unlikely" he'll be back?

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His ankle is still purple from last Saturday, I'm sure. Right now he feels every bit his 40 years. Once summer rolls around and training camp starts he may decide to come back in 2010. I think he's coming back. The Vikings have such a good team with him in the fold and it represents his best chance to win a Superbowl. All the pieces are in place on that team.

The repoire he developed with Sidney Rice alone should encourage him to come back. Rice was playing like Randy Moss did back when he was a Viking.