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How is Nasser's health? He seems mentally healthy but how about his physical health? This question can be asked of any 1990s pro.
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it's always said that nasser's best shape was at mr. olympia 1997 (270 pounds) but here at houston 1995 he was nearly the same weight (268 pounds) and i see he was fuller, harder, and more detailed than his version of 1997!!.. IMO this was his best shape ever along with NOC 1995 and mr. olympia 1996!!..
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How is Nasser's health? He seems mentally healthy but how about his physical health? This question can be asked of any 1990s pro.
thank ALLAH the wizard's health is ok.. as you know nasser only used roids once or twice in the 90s when he was competing so his health hasnt been affected as the other pros of his time.. after 2 cycles nasser discovered that his great genetics + 100 gms of protien every day were enough for him without the need to take roids as the others!!..
thx for your care about the wizard's health :-X
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Nasser looked excellent in this show 8)
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thank ALLAH the wizard's health is ok.. as you know nasser only used roids once or twice in the 90s when he was competing so his health hasnt been affected as the other pros of his time.. after 2 cycles nasser discovered that his great genetics + 100 gms of protien every day were enough for him without the need to take roids as the others!!..
thx for your care about the wizard's health :-X
.... sounds like you'r talking bout LEE....
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vince taylor should have won.
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vince taylor should have won.
translation: you know nothing about bb (and about anything i guess)..
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translation: you know nothing about bb (and about anything i guess)..
i know more than you shitty shalaby
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'95 was his best year. Overall, he had a good blend of size, conditioning with proportions that BBers his size don't have most of the time. Sure, he was bigger in '96 and '97 but somehow that hurt his conditioning and emphasized the fact that his back was not as developped as the rest. Even if most say '96 was his best, I think '95 was better.
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Surely, the greatest physique ever!!
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vince taylor should have won.
Agreed. Nasser never improved after 1995 but still was a solid top 5 placing. I wonder, was there any Muslim men with suspiciously large back packs sitting just behind the judging panel during that contest?
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How is Nasser's health? He seems mentally healthy but how about his physical health? This question can be asked of any 1990s pro.
Very Wrong. Nasser is singular in that his mental health is such that he can't even find his library card. Hasn't read a book in years. Tut tut. Mensa, indeed. ;)
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vince taylor should have won.
ur an idiot
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ur an idiot
actually his hatred has made him an idiot who sees with his ass :-X
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Nasser looked phenomenal in 1995. The size gains he made from the 1994 Mr. O to the 1995 May shows were astounding. I've rarely seen a seasoned pro making such dramatic gains in such a relatively short period of time. Nasser's muscles looked very full, hard and had a young & popping appearance to them. He was never able to duplicate this full, young and popping look afterwards. Even so he looked big & freaky in 1996 and 1997 the youthful appearance of his muscles was gone. They did not "pop or jump" as much anymore.
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n a s s e r = o v e r r a t e d
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Looked excellent - though I like Vince's physique more...
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He looked fantastic that year among the best he's ever looked. Despite being much heavier than Vince he's doesn't appear so in the front double biceps and latspread
that ab-thigh is a showstopper
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Ask Nasser if he feels he ever deserved to beat Coleman while Coleman was Mr. O.
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He looked fantastic that year among the best he's ever looked. Despite being much heavier than Vince he's doesn't appear so in the front double biceps and latspread
that ab-thigh is a showstopper
Which reminds me, the topic came up with me, him and Alex as to which show he feels was his best showing (since we were discussing that a while back), and he said the 96 Grand Prix shows.
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Looks better there than at the 97 Olympia.
Bobs, I remember reading in FLEX (late 1995) that Nasser ate a whole lot of chicken in the time leading up to his sudden rise from 7th place in the 94 Olympia to winning contests and placing 3rd in 95. He said he had chicken breasts 4 or 5 meals a day, to up his protein big time.
Do you know if that's true or whether it was just some BS ghost writing in FLEX?
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Which reminds me, the topic came up with me, him and Alex as to which show he feels was his best showing (since we were discussing that a while back), and he said the 96 Grand Prix shows.
yes he was awesome there too!! :o
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Arms look full...
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Nasser looks good, though I think that Vince T. is the star of that show.
I have Nasser 2nd.
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Too much oil.
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Less than one year of progression..
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Less than one year of progression..
check this old thread of mine 8)
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Unfortunately for nasser he never won anything more than once. He always did worse the second time around. Then again he only won 6 comps throughout his entire career.
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Looks better there than at the 97 Olympia.
Bobs, I remember reading in FLEX (late 1995) that Nasser ate a whole lot of chicken in the time leading up to his sudden rise from 7th place in the 94 Olympia to winning contests and placing 3rd in 95. He said he had chicken breasts 4 or 5 meals a day, to up his protein big time.
Do you know if that's true or whether it was just some BS ghost writing in FLEX?
I think it was true what Flex reported there. In his part IV video it shows him repetaedly eating chicken breasts (with some peas and zero-calorie sauce). He told me he how chicken is also healthier than even lean cuts of beef, and how a proper precontest diet is so strict that it leaves you mentally drained and in a bad mood.
He actually told me that he loves kangaroo meat, except its not really sold in the U.S.
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Unfortunately for nasser he never won anything more than once. He always did worse the second time around. Then again he only won 6 comps throughout his entire career.
...and top 3 in 29 of 31 consecutive shows, including 4 consecutive Mr. Olympias. Definitely a legend.
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I think it was true what Flex reported there. In his part IV video it shows him repetaedly eating chicken breasts (with some peas and zero-calorie sauce). He told me he how chicken is also healthier than even lean cuts of beef, and how a proper precontest diet is so strict that it leaves you mentally drained and in a bad mood.
He actually told me that he loves kangaroo meat, except its not really sold in the U.S.
i guess kangaroo tastes like gazelle!!..
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I think it was true what Flex reported there. In his part IV video it shows him repetaedly eating chicken breasts (with some peas and zero-calorie sauce). He told me he how chicken is also healthier than even lean cuts of beef, and how a proper precontest diet is so strict that it leaves you mentally drained and in a bad mood.
He actually told me that he loves kangaroo meat, except its not really sold in the U.S.
Thanks. So was he eating around 500 - 600 g of protein a day back then? Do you know if he did that all the way till he retired?
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I thought crow would be his favorite since he ended up eating a lot of that.
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Thanks. So was he eating around 500 - 600 g of protein a day back then? Do you know if he did that all the way till he retired?
Only pre-contest he'd consistently eat that much protein to reduce muscle loss.
In the offseason he didn't really count his protein. Some days in the offseason he'd have a lot, but most days it would be less.
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Thanks. So was he eating around 500 - 600 g of protein a day back then? Do you know if he did that all the way till he retired?
i believe only when preparing for a contest.. during the offseason he was increasing carbohydrates and decreasing protien.. bobs can correct me of course!!..
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oh!!!.. sorry bobs i wrote my post before reading yours 8)
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oh!!!.. sorry bobs i wrote my post before reading yours 8)
MOS will probably have some twist to this suggesting his gimmick theory lol
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Only pre-contest he'd consistently eat that much protein to reduce muscle loss.
In the offseason he didn't really count his protein. Some days in the offseason he'd have a lot, but most days it would be less.
i believe only when preparing for a contest.. during the offseason he was increasing carbohydrates and decreasing protien.. bobs can correct me of course!!..
Oh brother, brutal forgetting to log out of the gimmick account ::) ;D
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Oh brother, brutal forgetting to log out of the gimmick account ::) ;D
;D
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Oh brother, brutal forgetting to log out of the gimmick account ::) ;D
Uh Oh , someone is busted :-X
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Uh Oh , someone is busted :-X
Just a matter of time.
He's now busy melting down in the other thread in an attempt to cover it up.
Poor guy is having a tough day. :D
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Uh Oh , someone is busted :-X
I hope you're being sarcastic as Kiwiol and I were? :-\
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I hope you're being sarcastic as Kiwiol and I were? :-\
Yes ;)
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are you sarcastic too my bitch tyr :P
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Yes ;)
sorry, my bad :)
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Vince was robbed.
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Vince was robbed.
(http://trinitypastor.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/broken_record.jpg)
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(http://trinitypastor.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/broken_record.jpg)
Irony alert ( at least 3 X )
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Irony alert ( at least 3 X )
How many times have you repeteated the same arguments with Hulkster? :)
Meso_z example is different than mine or yours since he's just repasting the same few words in the same thread in order to troll. I dont think anyone replied to him the first time.
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are you sarcastic too my bitch tyr :P
Sarcastic about your attempts at covering up your mishap? Absolutely.
Better go pick up your keyboard keys off the floor....and go take a shower before you explode further. ;D
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I think that this progress from 94` to 95` is when MILOS told him how to use INSULIN...if I remember correct MILOS said that...after using INSULIN nasser exploaded in size!
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How many times have you repeteated the same arguments with Hulkster? :)
Meso_z example is different than mine or yours since he's just repasting the same few words in the same thread in order to troll. I dont think anyone replied to him the first time.
You mean how many times have I corrected Hulkster
my arguments are baswd on facts not so with him or you ;)
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I think that this progress from 94` to 95` is when MILOS told him how to use INSULIN...if I remember correct MILOS said that...after using INSULIN nasser exploaded in size!
Milos said it so it must be true! You should be a lawyer! ;)
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I think it was true what Flex reported there. In his part IV video it shows him repetaedly eating chicken breasts (with some peas and zero-calorie sauce). He told me he how chicken is also healthier than even lean cuts of beef, and how a proper precontest diet is so strict that it leaves you mentally drained and in a bad mood.
He actually told me that he loves kangaroo meat, except its not really sold in the U.S.
kangaroo meat is a very lean and very high in protein and often used in pre contest diets.
I believe Nasser , during pre contest would eat @ least 600 grams of protein (almost all of it in chicken breasts) on a daily basis.
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vince looks fantastic at that show. better than nasser in all those shots at least.
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'95 was his best year. Overall, he had a good blend of size, conditioning with proportions that BBers his size don't have most of the time. Sure, he was bigger in '96 and '97 but somehow that hurt his conditioning and emphasized the fact that his back was not as developped as the rest. Even if most say '96 was his best, I think '95 was better.
That can be said for about 95% of all pros ;).
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Nasser had a very unimpressive back.
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I think that this progress from 94` to 95` is when MILOS told him how to use INSULIN...if I remember correct MILOS said that...after using INSULIN nasser exploaded in size!
;) Vince taylor is one hell of a bodybuilder, and at his best ,better than Nasser in this mans unbiased opinion. Nasser was a great bodybuilder as well, But Vince at his best has something Nasser didnt, shape and Symmetry, something not lost on some of the guys who have been around the sport a long time. Physiques like his dont come around everyday, no offence to Nasser but a lot of pro potentiol guys with good genetics can get as big and conditioned as him with enough mgs and hard work. The shape of a Vince Taylor or a Flex Wheeler is a genetic gift. Not taking anything away from Nasser, but i dont think Vince gets the respect he deserves in this thread the guy was a beast.
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;) Vince taylor is one hell of a bodybuilder, and at his best ,better than Nasser in this mans unbiased opinion. Nasser was a great bodybuilder as well, But Vince at his best has something Nasser didnt, shape and Symmetry, something not lost on some of the guys who have been around the sport a long time. Physiques like his dont come around everyday, no offence to Nasser but a lot of pro potentiol guys with good genetics can get as big and conditioned as him with enough mgs and hard work. The shape of a Vince Taylor or a Flex Wheeler is a genetic gift. Not taking anything away from Nasser, but i dont think Vince gets the respect he deserves in this thread the guy was a beast.
In a Flex magazine shortly after his 95 win of the NOC, it quoted Nasser saying somethign to the effect that he knew Vince Taylor would be the man to beat, and that Vince is someone he always had great respect towards, but this year he expected to finally get respect from Vince. The contest placings suggested he succeeded ;)
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That can be said for about 95% of all pros ;).
;D
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vince looks fantastic at that show. better than nasser in all those shots at least.
Wow, did you just reply on a Non-Ronnie Coleman related topic? Oh I forgot, it's a black bodybuilder vs another skin color. At least your consistent.
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;) Vince taylor is one hell of a bodybuilder, and at his best ,better than Nasser in this mans unbiased opinion. Nasser was a great bodybuilder as well, But Vince at his best has something Nasser didnt, shape and Symmetry, something not lost on some of the guys who have been around the sport a long time. Physiques like his dont come around everyday, no offence to Nasser but a lot of pro potentiol guys with good genetics can get as big and conditioned as him with enough mgs and hard work. The shape of a Vince Taylor or a Flex Wheeler is a genetic gift. Not taking anything away from Nasser, but i dont think Vince gets the respect he deserves in this thread the guy was a beast.
to be "honest" with you, you are an asshole to say this!!.. what is wrong with nasser's shape?.. being bigger doesnt make him look less symmetrical or aesthetic!!.. in many poses he looks better (shape wise) than vinice who too is a great bb and one of my favorites!!..
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to be "honest" with you, you are an asshole to say this!!.. what is wrong with nasser's shape?.. being bigger doesnt make him look less symmetrical or aesthetic!!.. in many poses he looks better (shape wise) than vinice who too is a great bb and one of my favorites!!..
Symmetry is also a matter of front and back comparison. In that department, Vince had better symmetry than Nasser as Nasser had an amazing front at his best, probably the best at the time (95/96) but his back was not ranking close. Vince had a very balanced physique, he even had calves which is rare for a black Bber. As for the "shape" thing I don't really agree with Honest, both had great shape at their best, apples and oranges, Vince was more consistent in the long run and had probably some of the best muscle bellies out there with Flex. Neither do I agree with "pro potential" guys who could get as big and conditioned as Nasser". Those are "what if"'s so it doesn't matter.
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Symmetry is also a matter of front and back comparison. In that department, Vince had better symmetry than Nasser as Nasser had an amazing front at his best, probably the best at the time (95/96) but his back was not ranking close. Vince had a very balanced physique, he even had calves which is rare for a black Bber. As for the "shape" thing I don't really agree with Honest, both had great shape at their best, apples and oranges, Vince was more consistent in the long run and had probably some of the best muscle bellies out there with Flex. Neither do I agree with "pro potential" guys who could get as big and conditioned as Nasser". Those are "what if"'s so it doesn't matter.
actually vinice's back was never considered a good one, and like nasser his front was clearly better than his rear.. also in 1995 nasser's back was not as bad as you think, see the below pic. from NOC 1995 which came less than a month after Houston!.. what do you think?.. i really see nasser's RBB here better (as a whole) than vinice!..
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I told you before, Nasser's back was not bad in '95, actually pretty good but STILL FAR from his front. Vince was not as noverwhelming as Nasser from anysides but wasn't lacking either so the impression of symmetry was better. Remember, BBing is a lot about presentation and perception, not objectivity.
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Poor Vince, got robbed by "Nasser el no back"
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Nasser struggled with side and rear poses during the relaxed round, from the front he was awesome and first impressions always were this guy could win. This is an unbiased opinion.
Vince Taylors back was not weak ever, when he was off it lacked detail but in top shape his back double bis was very good, his rear lat not so good, but it was right up there post some photos of Nasser standing relaxed to the rear than you will begin to understand why he didnt win, not taking anything away from the great bodybuilder that he is, but i think you guys should understand that he lost fairly wasnt cheated out of the title as he was a muslim, thats ridiculous, if his back was better he would have won.
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Nasser struggled with side and rear poses during the relaxed round, from the front he was awesome and first impressions always were this guy could win. This is an unbiased opinion.
Vince Taylors back was not weak ever, when he was off it lacked detail but in top shape his back double bis was very good, his rear lat not so good, but it was right up there post some photos of Nasser standing relaxed to the rear than you will begin to understand why he didnt win, not taking anything away from the great bodybuilder that he is, but i think you guys should understand that he lost fairly wasnt cheated out of the title as he was a muslim, thats ridiculous, if his back was better he would have won.
i never said/believed he didnt win because he was muslim ::)
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actually vinice's back was never considered a good one, and like nasser his front was clearly better than his rear.. also in 1995 nasser's back was not as bad as you think, see the below pic. from NOC 1995 which came less than a month after Houston!.. what do you think?.. i really see nasser's RBB here better (as a whole) than vinice!..
Ronnie is killing them both in that pose. Nassers lats look alittle thicker than Vince's, but Vince shows way more detail.
If Nasser had trained back properly he may have won an Olympia.
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Ronnie is killing them both in that pose. Nassers lats look alittle thicker than Vince's, but Vince shows way more detail.
If Nasser had trained back properly he may have won an Olympia.
i am sure nasser trained his back with more intinisty than the rest of him, it's just his genetics in this area are not as good as the other parts!!!..
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i am sure nasser trained his back with more intinisty than the rest of him, it's just his genetics in this area are not as good as the other parts!!!..
Not sure of that. Maybe BigBobs has the info. Even if he did it with more intensity, did he train it differently than the rest? That could have been the trick. From what I remember reading, Nasser was more a "volume" trainer that anything else. A little Dorian-esque training might have given him the density and definition he lacked in that area. He never really have a size problem, right?
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thank ALLAH the wizard's health is ok.. as you know nasser only used roids once or twice in the 90s when he was competing so his health hasnt been affected as the other pros of his time.. after 2 cycles nasser discovered that his great genetics + 100 gms of protien every day were enough for him without the need to take roids as the others!!..
thx for your care about the wizard's health :-X
hahahaha you got to be kidding. not saying nasser used huge amounts but he used everything every one else is/ was using. you are as delusional as the true adonis. i cant believe you actually wrote that.
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Not sure of that. Maybe BigBobs has the info. Even if he did it with more intensity, did he train it differently than the rest? That could have been the trick. From what I remember reading, Nasser was more a "volume" trainer that anything else. A little Dorian-esque training might have given him the density and definition he lacked in that area. He never really have a size problem, right?
no i dont agree here because dorian couldn't build his shoulders for example to be the same level of his back or his calves!!.. it's all genetics!..
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hahahaha you got to be kidding. not saying nasser used huge amounts but he used everything every one else is/ was using. you are as delusional as the true adonis. i cant believe you actually wrote that.
and i acually cant believe you took it seriously ;D.. i thought it was a clear and direct joke!!.. may be a silly one but still clear and direct :-X