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Title: Gym Fees - what would you pay a year?
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 12:25:21 PM
I am looking into opening a gym in my hometown.  There is a real need for a facility with fitness and weight training in house.   I am looking at making tanning beds free as part of the package.  There will be a supplement shop on the premises and a fruit/beverage bar.  I will have a lounge and yoga/dance/ area.  It needs to suite all walks of life.  I will of course make sure the lifting section is fully loaded for the heavy lifters.

So my question is this

What do you pay now for your yearly memberships??

What would you recommend or not recommend ??

Thanks
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Deadpool on January 26, 2010, 12:27:08 PM
my gyms

commercial gym, 19.99 mo.

former World's, 300 for year

YMCA is 48 a month

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 26, 2010, 12:28:08 PM
Be careful.  You will spend a lot of money opening one, making it all nice and being successful at $29 a month but then in 6 months a fucking 24 hour fitness or a LA Fitness will stride in and charge $19 per month with twice the square footage and put you out of business.

You will make your biggest money on selling tanning lotions, supps, Personal Training and Nutrition consultation.  The memberships should be enough to cover your monthly expenses.

Target housewives that will sign up and never show up.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 12:37:11 PM
Be careful.  You will spend a lot of money opening one, making it all nice and being successful at $29 a month but then in 6 months a fucking 24 hour fitness or a LA Fitness will stride in and charge $19 per month with twice the square footage and put you out of business.

You will make your biggest money on selling tanning lotions, supps, Personal Training and Nutrition consultation.  The memberships should be enough to cover your monthly expenses.

Target housewives that will sign up and never show up.
Ok great..  thanks so much I thought I was the only one thinking this way lol    I live in a small town with about 30g people and another 30g in surrounding areas.  I do however have 2 high schools full of jocks and cheerleaders.   Everyone for 25km comes to my town for all their services and shopping.   So I am hoping to make it a success.   

Is it important to offer child care during a specific time. "maybe 730am till 5pm"  I was thinking to offer childcare and having kids from the high school and local college who may  be pursuing a career in early childhood education do a "CO-OP " In other words they work for free. 

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 12:45:15 PM
I am looking into opening a gym in my hometown.  There is a real need for a facility with fitness and weight training in house.   I am looking at making tanning beds free as part of the package.  There will be a supplement shop on the premises and a fruit/beverage bar.  I will have a lounge and yoga/dance/ area.  It needs to suite all walks of life.  I will of course make sure the lifting section is fully loaded for the heavy lifters.

So my question is this

What do you pay now for your yearly memberships??

What would you recommend or not recommend ??

Thanks

 ::)  You're talking about building a super megaplex gym that rivals most 24hr fitnesses in a "small town" with free tanning and a fully loaded lifting section for "heavy lifters".  Oh brother!  You must have rocks for brains. 

1)  People are cutting way back on things like gym memberships and "juice bars".  LOL
2)  Heavy lifters are a dying breed and you will never reap what it's worth trying to cater to them. 
3)  Supplement shops are doing terrible right now, have been for years when you can get them online to your door. 
4)  All this and you live in a "small" town?

Seriously dude.............you are going to go bankrupt doing something as ridiculous as this. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 12:46:46 PM
Be careful.  You will spend a lot of money opening one, making it all nice and being successful at $29 a month but then in 6 months a fucking 24 hour fitness or a LA Fitness will stride in and charge $19 per month with twice the square footage and put you out of business.

You will make your biggest money on selling tanning lotions, supps, Personal Training and Nutrition consultation.  The memberships should be enough to cover your monthly expenses.

Target housewives that will sign up and never show up.

Personal trainers are going unemployed left and right.  Personal training and "Nutrition" consultation is one of the worst things to be in right now.  It's almost the number one thing most people cut back on in a down trending economy. 

If this idiot does a proper business plan he'll figure it out really quickly. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 12:54:48 PM
Personal trainers are going unemployed left and right.  Personal training and "Nutrition" consultation is one of the worst things to be in right now.  It's almost the number one thing most people cut back on in a down trending economy.  

If this idiot does a proper business plan he'll figure it out really quickly.  
This idiot made his first million by the age of 25.   I own the building and plan on turning it into a gym for myself . So I thought why not open it to the general public this way I can justify all the expenses and write them off.     I make enough annually to where I could write this off for the rest of my life as a business loss.      This isn't the first time I have opened a business.  I have polled the community via in store questionnaire and have over 600 clients waiting to register for membership.    I have done my research and value your input.  
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 26, 2010, 01:00:01 PM
Ok great..  thanks so much I thought I was the only one thinking this way lol    I live in a small town with about 30g people and another 30g in surrounding areas.  I do however have 2 high schools full of jocks and cheerleaders.   Everyone for 25km comes to my town for all their services and shopping.   So I am hoping to make it a success.   

Is it important to offer child care during a specific time. "maybe 730am till 5pm"  I was thinking to offer childcare and having kids from the high school and local college who may  be pursuing a career in early childhood education do a "CO-OP " In other words they work for free. 



Child care!  Do you know what it takes to have child care? The liability alone could bankrupt you.  The insurance is expensive and that is only if you qualify.  If airplanes fly overhead or if there is an industrial plant within a few miles then you can forget it.  Also  there are laws regarding the number of caregivers per child.

also have you looked into the cost of tanning bed lamps? Having a free bed running all day is going to drain them fast.  Big cost and upkeep plus you will need a dedicated staff member just taking care of them, cleaning them, prepping etc... after each use.  Do you know that most LA and 24 Fitness places have thousands members.  WHAT!  I never see that many people there.  Exactly.   Most people will sign up but never go, but also never cancel because it's so cheap.  The highschool probably already has a gym and highschool kids have no money anyways.  They'll just hang out and be a nuissance to the actual people that you want to keep at your gym.  Remember after 4 years those kids are gone to school or working for min. wage while the houswives will be around for a while.  You scare away the housewives by building a highschool hang out and you'll be bankrupt fast.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 26, 2010, 01:01:10 PM
Personal trainers are going unemployed left and right.  Personal training and "Nutrition" consultation is one of the worst things to be in right now.  It's almost the number one thing most people cut back on in a down trending economy. 

If this idiot does a proper business plan he'll figure it out really quickly. 

True, but for a gym owner it it pure profit.  It is what the big chains bank on.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: newmom on January 26, 2010, 01:03:48 PM
the gym I mainly use is this

19.99 for cardio equipment only
29.99 for all equipment
42.99 for equipment, unlimited tanning, free spin class and allowed free pass for out of state visitor
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 01:12:31 PM
This idiot made his first million by the age of 25.   I own the building and plan on turning it into a gym for myself . So I thought why not open it to the general public this way I can justify all the expenses and write them off.     I make enough annually to where I could write this off for the rest of my life as a business loss.      This isn't the first time I have opened a business.  I have polled the community via in store questionnaire and have over 600 clients waiting to register for membership.    I have done my research and value your input.  

Ok let's hear it John Cena.......how did you make your first million by age 25 no bullshit. 

How big is your building?  What's the population of your town?  Median income of your town?  Competition located within a 5 mile radius? 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 01:13:24 PM
Child care!  Do you know what it takes to have child care? The liability alone could bankrupt you.  The insurance is expensive and that is only if you qualify.  If airplanes fly overhead or if there is an industrial plant within a few miles then you can forget it.  Also  there are laws regarding the number of caregivers per child.

also have you looked into the cost of tanning bed lamps? Having a free bed running all day is going to drain them fast.  Big cost and upkeep plus you will need a dedicated staff member just taking care of them, cleaning them, prepping etc... after each use.  Do you know that most LA and 24 Fitness places have thousands members.  WHAT!  I never see that many people there.  Exactly.   Most people will sign up but never go, but also never cancel because it's so cheap.  The high school probably already has a gym and high school kids have no money anyways.  They'll just hang out and be a nuissance to the actual people that you want to keep at your gym.  Remember after 4 years those kids are gone to school or working for min. wage while the houswives will be around for a while.  You scare away the housewives by building a high school hang out and you'll be bankrupt fast.
The schools do not have decent gyms and since I am personal friends with the football coach I am well aware of these facts.   I pay over 30g a year for insurance as it is.   My fees for this facility is 900 per month.   After the investment of equipment my monthly fees are without utilities 4000.  I am guessing about another 2000 for hydro and My wife and her sisters will be running the place.  So labour cost are minimal.  
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 26, 2010, 01:16:32 PM
Personal trainers are going unemployed left and right.  Personal training and "Nutrition" consultation is one of the worst things to be in right now.  It's almost the number one thing most people cut back on in a down trending economy. 

Coach, please report to the "GYM FEES" thread.  ;)
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: saopl on January 26, 2010, 01:18:15 PM
This idiot made his first million by the age of 25.   I own the building and plan on turning it into a gym for myself . So I thought why not open it to the general public this way I can justify all the expenses and write them off.     I make enough annually to where I could write this off for the rest of my life as a business loss.      This isn't the first time I have opened a business.  I have polled the community via in store questionnaire and have over 600 clients waiting to register for membership.    I have done my research and value your input.  

 ::) ::) ::) ::)

dude I've been posting/lurking for less than a month and I already know mostly everything that comes out of your mouth is complete bullshit.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 01:19:55 PM
::) ::) ::) ::)

dude I've been posting/lurking for less than a month and I already know mostly everything that comes out of your mouth is complete bullshit.


Let's see if he answers the question how he became a millionaire at age 25. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 26, 2010, 01:20:28 PM
The schools do not have decent gyms and since I am personal friends with the football coach I am well aware of these facts.   I pay over 30g a year for insurance as it is.   My fees for this facility is 900 per month.   After the investment of equipment my monthly fees are without utilities 4000.  I am guessing about another 2000 for hydro and My wife and her sisters will be running the place.  So labour cost are minimal.  


Hydro?  You must be Canadian.  Anyhoots.  You better check into the insurance if a little kid ever gets hurt in the daycare.  Big liability.  As for the wife and sisters running it, you better make sure they take some courses in health and fitness.  You will also need some dude there to keep things in order.  The last thing you want is 40 highschool footballers making this place their hangout.  Your doors will close fast.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 01:26:04 PM
Ok let's hear it John Cena.......how did you make your first million by age 25 no bullshit. 

How big is your building?  What's the population of your town?  Median income of your town?  Competition located within a 5 mile radius? 
I opened and operated my own construction company when I was 18. I specialized in commercial roofing.   While the winter would normally be my off season I bought and sold houses with my summer crew to ensure them year round employment rather than seasonal.I still rent a few out as they are located in a college town.   There is not a single gym facility within 25 km or a 20 minutes drive minimum.  closest one is the YMCA 28km away.   I live in a wealthy part of the country 99% farmers.  Recently they have built over 200 new homes on the out skirts of town and it is bringing the major cities upper crust.   Average home cost is about 500g   Without land.  My place for instance 400 acres 5000sq foot two storey brick home in todays market 900g plus      I paid half of that as it was in ruins after previous owner died and was empty for 5 years.  It required a complete restoration.   I know there are a lot of shiters on line and you may not believe everything I say. And I know I shoot the shit and break balls all the time. However you doubting me doesn't change the facts of my life.   I was planniing of building a 3000 square foot gym at my home for my employees and family/friends   So this way I can write it all off.   The building is 7500square feet and in a local strip mall with over 500 parking spots. I have doe my research my friend
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: James28 on January 26, 2010, 01:27:01 PM
I'm in the UK so it won't help you, but I pay £80 a month for my membership which is a fucking rip off but it's right on my doorstep and empty when I train so it's perfect.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Captain Equipoise on January 26, 2010, 01:29:43 PM
I pay $32 a month for a 24 hour facility with an upstairs fitness area with mats and bags (boxing)
large square footage good machines, dumbells go up to 140 or 150 (standard)
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Hulkotron on January 26, 2010, 01:37:35 PM
Haha the legend of slacker continues to grow!  Not only does he have a John Cena-level physique but is also a millionaire!!!
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: HICKSON on January 26, 2010, 01:45:09 PM
I opened and operated my own construction company when I was 18. I specialized in commercial roofing.   While the winter would normally be my off season I bought and sold houses with my summer crew to ensure them year round employment rather than seasonal.I still rent a few out as they are located in a college town.   There is not a single gym facility within 25 km or a 20 minutes drive minimum.  closest one is the YMCA 28km away.   I live in a wealthy part of the country 99% farmers.  Recently they have built over 200 new homes on the out skirts of town and it is bringing the major cities upper crust.   Average home cost is about 500g   Without land.  My place for instance 400 acres 5000sq foot two storey brick home in todays market 900g plus      I paid half of that as it was in ruins after previous owner died and was empty for 5 years.  It required a complete restoration.   I know there are a lot of shiters on line and you may not believe everything I say. And I know I shoot the shit and break balls all the time. However you doubting me doesn't change the facts of my life.   I was planniing of building a 3000 square foot gym at my home for my employees and family/friends   So this way I can write it all off.   The building is 7500square feet and in a local strip mall with over 500 parking spots. I have doe my research my friend

What state is this in?

Has alot to do with region as to what type of people live there.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: saopl on January 26, 2010, 01:48:56 PM
Also, I'm paying 14.99/monthly at my location.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 01:49:42 PM
I opened and operated my own construction company when I was 18. I specialized in commercial roofing.   While the winter would normally be my off season I bought and sold houses with my summer crew to ensure them year round employment rather than seasonal.I still rent a few out as they are located in a college town.   There is not a single gym facility within 25 km or a 20 minutes drive minimum.  closest one is the YMCA 28km away.   I live in a wealthy part of the country 99% farmers.  Recently they have built over 200 new homes on the out skirts of town and it is bringing the major cities upper crust.   Average home cost is about 500g   Without land.  My place for instance 400 acres 5000sq foot two storey brick home in todays market 900g plus      I paid half of that as it was in ruins after previous owner died and was empty for 5 years.  It required a complete restoration.   I know there are a lot of shiters on line and you may not believe everything I say. And I know I shoot the shit and break balls all the time. However you doubting me doesn't change the facts of my life.   I was planniing of building a 3000 square foot gym at my home for my employees and family/friends   So this way I can write it all off.   The building is 7500square feet and in a local strip mall with over 500 parking spots. I have doe my research my friend

First off it's one thing to run a business that is "worth a million dollars" or does a million dollars in sales or business a year.  But it's another thing to have a million dollars sitting in the bank by the time you're 25.  Unless you took over your father's business or have wealthy parents your success rivals that of Bill Gates.  He was born in 1955 and made his first million in 1981.  Are you saying you're more successful than Bill Gates?  Even Bill Gates had wealthy parents.  

Gyms are a money pit for most poeple especially small business owners.  Unless you're thinking of opening up a mega chain type franchise ala Planet Fitness, Gold's, or 24hr you're not going to make any money at it.  Especially offering all the perks you are thinking of offering.  If you have money to burn like you claim and want to open up a gym for fun or a hobby more power to you.  


Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 01:56:52 PM
Hydro?  You must be Canadian.  Anyhoots.  You better check into the insurance if a little kid ever gets hurt in the daycare.  Big liability.  As for the wife and sisters running it, you better make sure they take some courses in health and fitness.  You will also need some dude there to keep things in order.  The last thing you want is 40 highschool footballers making this place their hangout.  Your doors will close fast.
I have some friends from my old gym that are trainers and have offered  their services to me.  They will eventually be paying me 10 bucks per hour of training.   And I live in a good town with decent kids and I own a convenience store and they all come in there at lunch and we have never had a problem.   Also as a ex cop I have alot of friends who work at our local PD and they will workout for free in lieu of payment they will be security on a part time basis
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 02:01:50 PM
I have some friends from my old gym that are trainers and have offered  their services to me.  They will eventually be paying me 10 bucks per hour of training.   And I live in a good town with decent kids and I own a convenience store and they all come in there at lunch and we have never had a problem.   Also as a ex cop I have alot of friends who work at our local PD and they will workout for free in lieu of payment they will be security on a part time basis


LMAO! 
Slacker:
1) Own his own million dollar business at 18
2)  millionaire by the time he was 25
3) Ex cop
4) Owns his own convenience store
5) Getbig member for over ten years
6) Looks like John Cena
7) Has the build of John Cena

Anything else we can add to this list of super stardom? 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Azn Muscle on January 26, 2010, 02:08:16 PM
I actually don't pay any gym fees.

People mistake me for John Cena (even though I'm a little taller), so I usually get a free pass.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 26, 2010, 02:13:06 PM

LMAO! 
Slacker:
1) Own his own million dollar business at 18
2)  millionaire by the time he was 25
3) Ex cop
4) Owns his own convenience store
5) Getbig member for over ten years
6) Looks like John Cena
7) Has the build of John Cena

Anything else we can add to this list of super stardom? 

I started to think this as well from his last post. First he was a construction guy from 18 but managed to be a cop as well while owning a store.  WTF!
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: odilly on January 26, 2010, 02:13:55 PM
you do talk alot of shit....if there is any truth i would get a pm off to Hazbin he runs a great gym in calgary alberta canada not a franchise but it is the one of the top gyms in calgary
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 02:16:20 PM

LMAO! 
Slacker:
1) Own his own million dollar business at 18
2)  millionaire by the time he was 25
3) Ex cop
4) Owns his own convenience store
5) Getbig member for over ten years
6) Looks like John Cena
7) Has the build of John Cena

Anything else we can add to this list of super stardom? 
Its amazing what a hater you are. I am sorry I don't live in my parents basement like you.
1  I started it when I was 18 stupid and with that and my investment made a million by the age of 25
2  I quite the force due to small town drama. ie showing up to a residence and knowing the occupants on a domestic call.
3  I bought the store back in 99 for 30g  And it was the best investment I ever made
4  Why would being a member for ten years offend you.
5  Again hating me because I work out and actually get results.


and last but not least. for all you ignorant fuckers that have responded in a negative manner you are proving how insecure and depressed you truly are. Are you so naive to think that Bill gates is the only success story in the world.   Also a further display of your stupidity is the fact you didn't understand my original question

ALL THE HATING IN THE WORLD DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACTS
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: littleguns on January 26, 2010, 02:18:07 PM
Do your HW as gyms are the biggest failures if business right behind bars

Offer different membership plans as already mentioned.

No tanning 1 fee, tanning another.

I would hold off on a juice bar and get one of those soda fridges and offer RTD's and bars. Once you are making money then open the juice bar. Juice bar = another employee you need to pay and sit around to do nothing.

Have you seriously looked into insurance, this is what will kill your dreams. Lets say your gym holds 200 employees, you have to get insurance to cover all these people.

Look into leasing equipment with an option to buy. Many companies offer 2nd hand equipment but refurb it, new padding and covers and sometimes you never know it is used.

Are you putting it in a strip mall or free standing somewhere?
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 02:22:48 PM
I started to think this as well from his last post. First he was a construction guy from 18 but managed to be a cop as well while owning a store.  WTF!
Dude im not a fucking immigrant I don't work at the store and never have. It had the same employees when I took over.
As far as my days as a officer I was hired out of school and left within 2 years   
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 02:24:51 PM
Do your HW as gyms are the biggest failures if business right behind bars

Offer different membership plans as already mentioned.

No tanning 1 fee, tanning another.

I would hold off on a juice bar and get one of those soda fridges and offer RTD's and bars. Once you are making money then open the juice bar. Juice bar = another employee you need to pay and sit around to do nothing.

Have you seriously looked into insurance, this is what will kill your dreams. Lets say your gym holds 200 employees, you have to get insurance to cover all these people.

oh yeah and the tanning was gonna be part of a premium package
Look into leasing equipment with an option to buy. Many companies offer 2nd hand equipment but refurb it, new padding and covers and sometimes you never know it is used.

Are you putting it in a strip mall or free standing somewhere?
Insurance is a done deal 900 a month.   Employees will be family and friends.   I bought all the rubber matts from a estate sale GM plant closing.    I have done my homework.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 02:26:54 PM
you do talk alot of shit....if there is any truth i would get a pm off to Hazbin he runs a great gym in calgary alberta canada not a franchise but it is the one of the top gyms in calgary
I am looking into a franchise option with a major company.  My lawyer is going over fees and legality s
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 02:27:48 PM
I actually don't pay any gym fees.

People mistake me for John Cena (even though I'm a little taller), so I usually get a free pass.
people mistake you for dog shit.  which is why your where you are in life
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 02:32:49 PM
I am looking into a franchise option with a major company.  My lawyer is going over fees and legality s

Oh brother now you're opening up franchises?  Just shut the fuck up dude.  You are so full of shit.  The only people that take you seriously are the teenagers here. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 02:36:06 PM
Oh brother now you're opening up franchises?  Just shut the fuck up dude.  You are so full of shit.  The only people that take you seriously are the teenagers here. 
You are so fucking stupid you should stop typing.   I am looking into buying ONE A SINGLE FRANCHISE from a large fitness company you stupid fuck.    If you dont have anything positive to add fuck off. I am actually polling the getbig community for info not insults.   
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 02:39:23 PM
You are so fucking stupid you should stop typing.   I am looking into buying ONE A SINGLE FRANCHISE from a large fitness company you stupid fuck.    If you dont have anything positive to add fuck off. I am actually polling the getbig community for info not insults.   

So now you're going to open up your own AND buy into one?  Isn't that counterproductive?  Polling the getbig community?  That's your problem right there.  A majority of getbiggers are delusional, unemployed teenagers. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 02:44:01 PM
So now you're going to open up your own AND buy into one?  Isn't that counterproductive?  Polling the getbig community?  That's your problem right there.  A majority of getbiggers are delusional, unemployed teenagers. 
If I were to open a X fitness wouldn't it still be my own.  A franchise name is for notoriety and public recognition.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 02:45:08 PM
So now you're going to open up your own AND buy into one?  Isn't that counterproductive?  Polling the getbig community?  That's your problem right there.  A majority of getbiggers are delusional, unemployed teenagers. 
even unemployed teenagers pay gym fees which was my main question
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 02:45:36 PM
If I were to open a X fitness wouldn't it still be my own.  A franchise name is for notoriety and public recognition.

So which is it............are you going to open up a franchise or open up your own?  Why would you ever try to do both in the same small town?  
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 02:46:53 PM
even unemployed teenagers pay gym fees which was my main question

Not for long.  Just wait.  Males between the ages of 18-25 have been the hardest hit demographic so far in the economy and it's slated to get worse.  Who do you think is spending all their money on bogus supplements, tanning, and gym memberships?  Teenagers!  male and female. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Hulkotron on January 26, 2010, 03:07:57 PM

LMAO! 
Slacker:
1) Own his own million dollar business at 18
2)  millionaire by the time he was 25
3) Ex cop
4) Owns his own convenience store
5) Getbig member for over ten years
6) Looks like John Cena
7) Has the build of John Cena

Anything else we can add to this list of super stardom? 

slacker has also worked in "personal security", whatever that is.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 03:31:36 PM
So which is it............are you going to open up a franchise or open up your own?  Why would you ever try to do both in the same small town?  
ok your a fucking idiot
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 26, 2010, 03:35:28 PM
I am looking into opening a gym in my hometown.  There is a real need for a facility with fitness and weight training in house.   I am looking at making tanning beds free as part of the package.  There will be a supplement shop on the premises and a fruit/beverage bar.  I will have a lounge and yoga/dance/ area.  It needs to suite all walks of life.  I will of course make sure the lifting section is fully loaded for the heavy lifters.

So my question is this

What do you pay now for your yearly memberships??

What would you recommend or not recommend ??

Thanks

Why yoga? It isn't meant for anyone who actually trains. It's a bad gimmick that causes a shitload of physical problems.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Hulkotron on January 26, 2010, 03:39:01 PM
Yoga is terrible.  People sit around and stretch for an hour, sweat a little, and think they're getting a workout.  It might be a decent addition to a more complete fitness regimen, but on its own it is pretty useless imo.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 03:43:26 PM










I never said anywhere that I was going to have yoga class's I simply said there would be a area for these activities.  
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 26, 2010, 03:45:14 PM
I am looking into opening a gym in my hometown.  There is a real need for a facility with fitness and weight training in house.   I am looking at making tanning beds free as part of the package.  There will be a supplement shop on the premises and a fruit/beverage bar.  I will have a lounge and yoga/dance/ area.  It needs to suite all walks of life.  I will of course make sure the lifting section is fully loaded for the heavy lifters.

So my question is this

What do you pay now for your yearly memberships??

What would you recommend or not recommend ??

Thanks


^^^^
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 03:48:52 PM

^^^^
are you that fucking retarded asshole   I also said there will be a dance area wheres your comment for that.  Are you really as stupid as your making us all think.   Its amazing how getbig has so many haters. The only reason to doubt someone else is due to the fact you have no self esteem.  I want to thank all those for their positive input.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 26, 2010, 04:03:12 PM
are you that fucking retarded asshole   I also said there will be a dance area wheres your comment for that.  Are you really as stupid as your making us all think.   Its amazing how getbig has so many haters. The only reason to doubt someone else is due to the fact you have no self esteem.  I want to thank all those for their positive input.

Who's hating you insecure turd, if you really want to be an asshole about it, I'm opening a gym this summer and the last thing I would want is a place for "yoga". Put something in useful that will HELP your clientele not just a fitness gimmick to make money on people ho don't know any better. You're going to be another one of "fitness" gyms that want to make people believe that they don't have to train hard to get to their goals.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 04:08:45 PM
Who's hating you insecure turd, if you really want to be an asshole about it, I'm opening a gym this summer and the last thing I would want is a place for "yoga". Put something in useful that will HELP your clientele not just a fitness gimmick to make money on people ho don't know any better. You're going to be another one of "fitness" gyms that want to make people believe that they don't have to train hard to get to their goals.
read the thread before you reply TURD  there are alot of haters.   Again I never once said I was offering yoga I simply said there will be an area for those who practise yoga or dance or cheer leading or break dancing.   I dont practise any of that yoga shit however I thought it would be a good idea to have  location for those wishing to stretch or practise yoga
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Marty Champions on January 26, 2010, 04:08:54 PM
I am looking into opening a gym in my hometown.  There is a real need for a facility with fitness and weight training in house.   I am looking at making tanning beds free as part of the package.  There will be a supplement shop on the premises and a fruit/beverage bar.  I will have a lounge and yoga/dance/ area.  It needs to suite all walks of life.  I will of course make sure the lifting section is fully loaded for the heavy lifters.

So my question is this

What do you pay now for your yearly memberships??

What would you recommend or not recommend ??

Thanks

bad buisness to get into brother, youd be better off owning a rental property and having a decent tenant

with that buisness your gonna have all kinds of headaches
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 04:12:54 PM
bad buisness to get into brother, youd be better off owning a rental property and having a decent tenant

with that buisness your gonna have all kinds of headaches
thank you Johnny Falcon .  I pay enough in taxes per year to use this business as a write off.  This will not cost me a cent and if it fails Oh well 100% WRITE OFF
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Azn Muscle on January 26, 2010, 04:19:23 PM
thank you Johnny Falcon .  I pay enough in taxes per year to use this business as a write off.  This will not cost me a cent and if it fails Oh well 100% WRITE OFF

Dude are you retarded? Even if its a "write off", you still lose money.  Your comment makes no sense at all. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 26, 2010, 04:57:25 PM
Slacker.

What are your monthly costs..............

How much is lease rent (or mortgage payment)
Workmans comp and medical insurance
insurance
security
equipment lease payment (plus minimal of 10% cash down)
telephone
cable
cleaning
loan payment (?)
interest on loan
group fitness instructors
personal trainers
general staff including hourly and salary
COG
computers
membership software and fees
printing
postage
internet
advertising and marketing costs
maintenance
taxes
electrical
water
sewage
gas
and a few other monthly costs


Other costs........

If leasing you need first and last month lease payment
Is the landlord (if leasing) giving you any TI $'s
Build-out cost including ff&e (HVAC, rough plumbing & electrical, locker rooms, amenities, showers, toilets and stalls, archeticural drawings, permits, materials, security, insulation, fire system, juice bar, front reception

These are just a few to think about.  get a spread sheet going and do a five year Projection with income and expenses.

this will really lay it out for you on what you can do.  You need more ancillary profit centers.  You can't count on membership only. Tanning beds should not be free.  They are an expense that you are making a monthly payment on if you are leasing them.  That comes out of your bottom line.  If someone wants to use it they will pay.  Having free tanning will NOT bring in members.  Make it so they see a value in it and are willing to pay.  You want your members to spend money in your gym.  Don't let them train there and then go to GNC and buy supplements or buy online.  If the price is good they will buy from you.  Get the best price you can from the supp company(s) you are dealing with.  Get them to give you freebies for promotions.  Have them sponsor your t-shirts and then you can get them for free or very little.


Some things to chew on
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: CAPTAIN INSANO on January 26, 2010, 04:58:27 PM
I pay $23/month.  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Marty Champions on January 26, 2010, 05:10:03 PM
thank you Johnny Falcon .  I pay enough in taxes per year to use this business as a write off.  This will not cost me a cent and if it fails Oh well 100% WRITE OFF

u dont want to get into a buisness thats likely to fail

plus the gym buisness isnt really a good one, youll have to spend way too much on equipment or a good building to play catch up with gym memberships, it will not work
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Hulkotron on January 26, 2010, 05:35:23 PM
u dont want to get into a buisness thats likely to fail

plus the gym buisness isnt really a good one, youll have to spend way too much on equipment or a good building to play catch up with gym memberships, it will not work

Falcon how is your training going?
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: hazbin on January 26, 2010, 06:02:40 PM
there are way easier less stressful ways to make a living.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 06:08:51 PM
Slacker.

What are your monthly costs..............

How much is lease rent (or mortgage payment)
Workmans comp and medical insurance
insurance
security
equipment lease payment (plus minimal of 10% cash down)
telephone
cable
cleaning
loan payment (?)
interest on loan
group fitness instructors
personal trainers
general staff including hourly and salary
COG
computers
membership software and fees
printing
postage
internet
advertising and marketing costs
maintenance
taxes
electrical
water
sewage
gas
and a few other monthly costs


Other costs........

If leasing you need first and last month lease payment
Is the landlord (if leasing) giving you any TI $'s
Build-out cost including ff&e (HVAC, rough plumbing & electrical, locker rooms, amenities, showers, toilets and stalls, archeticural drawings, permits, materials, security, insulation, fire system, juice bar, front reception

These are just a few to think about.  get a spread sheet going and do a five year Projection with income and expenses.

this will really lay it out for you on what you can do.  You need more ancillary profit centers.  You can't count on membership only. Tanning beds should not be free.  They are an expense that you are making a monthly payment on if you are leasing them.  That comes out of your bottom line.  If someone wants to use it they will pay.  Having free tanning will NOT bring in members.  Make it so they see a value in it and are willing to pay.  You want your members to spend money in your gym.  Don't let them train there and then go to GNC and buy supplements or buy online.  If the price is good they will buy from you.  Get the best price you can from the supp company(s) you are dealing with.  Get them to give you freebies for promotions.  Have them sponsor your t-shirts and then you can get them for free or very little.


Some things to chew on

Please read the entire thread I have answered all these questions. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: HDPhysiques on January 26, 2010, 07:05:40 PM
HA!   This is turning into one of the funniest threads since Bobby Sly.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: stormshadow on January 26, 2010, 07:13:16 PM
I am looking into opening a gym in my hometown.  There is a real need for a facility with fitness and weight training in house.   I am looking at making tanning beds free as part of the package.  There will be a supplement shop on the premises and a fruit/beverage bar.  I will have a lounge and yoga/dance/ area.  It needs to suite all walks of life.  I will of course make sure the lifting section is fully loaded for the heavy lifters.

So my question is this

What do you pay now for your yearly memberships??

What would you recommend or not recommend ??

Thanks

You're an idiot, and never going to open a gym.

Fucking dumbest investment you can make.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 07:26:36 PM
You're an idiot, and never going to open a gym.

Fucking dumbest investment you can make.
Well heres the difference between me and most of the slaves here on GETBIG if I lose money Ill still have plenty to survive. Its amazing how you all work out  you all buy supplements and yet none of you think a gym will be successful.  let me lay it out for you.

I own the building
I have enough money to support this business until it starts to produce residual income.
If it fails  OH WELL atleast ill have one hell of a home gym
And I have done my research I know my demographic
I wasnt asking any of you fucking ass clowns IF I SHOULD DO IT
I simply asked what you pay and what are some things you would like to see
 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Wingnut32 on January 26, 2010, 08:02:25 PM
one day when I am done working as a undercover cop I will post all my photos here

I quite the force due to small town drama.

As far as my days as a officer I was hired out of school and left within 2 years   


So which is it?  Are you a cop or did you quit?   ::)
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: hazbin on January 26, 2010, 08:35:05 PM
thank you Johnny Falcon .  I pay enough in taxes per year to use this business as a write off.  This will not cost me a cent and if it fails Oh well 100% WRITE OFF

charity donations are 100 percent writeoffs and you don't have to listen to 500 snivelling bitches.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Natural Man on January 26, 2010, 08:52:08 PM
we have a pathological mythomaniac on this board. The guy must be posting from a mental institute.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 09:20:50 PM
charity donations are 100 percent writeoffs and you don't have to listen to 500 snivelling bitches.
This board is full of fucking idiots. I guess thats what I get for talking to americans
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: calfzilla on January 26, 2010, 09:46:52 PM

LMAO! 
Slacker:
1) Own his own million dollar business at 18
2)  millionaire by the time he was 25
3) Ex cop
4) Owns his own convenience store
5) Getbig member for over ten years
6) Looks like John Cena
7) Has the build of John Cena

Anything else we can add to this list of super stardom? 
8) Afraid to post a pic. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 09:48:53 PM
8) Afraid to post a pic. 
ok use your head stupid.  After all the shit I have pulled here If I posted an actual picture of myself It would have been cropped seven ways from sunday and I would have been bent over by everything from a horse to bob barker.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 10:08:23 PM
Top ten getbig threads of all time right here folks.  Slacker melting down left and right. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: hazbin on January 26, 2010, 10:13:41 PM
This board is full of fucking idiots. I guess thats what I get for talking to americans

i own a 16000 sq ft gym. 2000 members. had it since 1992.   lot of stress, even if you do every thing perfect 2 percent of members will always bitch.'

wasn't being an idiot, i have other businesses that are way less work and make way more money.

sorry, i thought you wanted input.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 10:16:24 PM
i own a 16000 sq ft gym. 2000 members. had it since 1992.   lot of stress, even if you do every thing perfect 2 percent of members will always bitch.'

wasn't being an idiot, i have other businesses that are way less work and make way more money.

sorry, i thought you wanted input.
I do thank you and I appreciate your input but there are too many idiots here and haters
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 10:22:12 PM
I do thank you and I appreciate your input but there are too many idiots here and haters

WTF?  You're still on here?  LMAO!  No one is hating.  But you're being very unrealistic. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 10:23:01 PM
WTF?  You're still on here?  LMAO!  No one is hating.  But you're being very unrealistic. 
how please enlighten me tell me how I am being unrealistic
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 26, 2010, 10:30:52 PM
i own a 16000 sq ft gym. 2000 members. had it since 1992.   lot of stress, even if you do every thing perfect 2 percent of members will always bitch.'

wasn't being an idiot, i have other businesses that are way less work and make way more money.

sorry, i thought you wanted input.

Nice gym!
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 10:37:47 PM
how please enlighten me tell me how I am being unrealistic

Because dude you are offering free tanning?  Juice bars?  And other shit that no other gyms offer for a variety of reasons.  Don't you think the major franchises would have figure out if those things were profitable by now and offer them?  They aren't that's why.  If you are serving food i.e. juicebar with protein shakes there are a whole host of concerns, licenses and overhead that go along with that.  Also do you know what it takes to run a tanning salon?  You have to be inspected by the health department, and there are a whole host of things that can go wrong with that as well.  You're clueless.  If you want to waste money go to Vegas. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 10:48:00 PM
first of all I was asking what should I offer.  The tanning would be part of a premium package there by paying for itself inclusively.   I am well aware of what it takes to run a tanning salon as my fiancée had one when we met and this will her her project.  Before you ask she sold it because it was in a different town.    Did I say anywhere how I was relying on this to make money. Did I once say I expected to get rich off of this endeavour.  If it fails I wont be out much.  I own the building and I will keep at least 50% of the equipment.    Most equipment will be leased or bought previously enjoyed I make a good living and if I get to own my own gym and enjoy the adventure then itll be worth it either way
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 10:52:09 PM
first of all I was asking what should I offer.  The tanning would be part of a premium package there by paying for itself inclusively.   I am well aware of what it takes to run a tanning salon as my fiancée had one when we met and this will her her project.  Before you ask she sold it because it was in a different town.    Did I say anywhere how I was relying on this to make money. Did I once say I expected to get rich off of this endeavour.  If it fails I wont be out much.  I own the building and I will keep at least 50% of the equipment.    Most equipment will be leased or bought previously enjoyed I make a good living and if I get to own my own gym and enjoy the adventure then itll be worth it either way

So have you ran the numbers?  You say you only have 600 members.  What do you plan on charging them per month for membership fees?  How does asking getbig members what they pay have any bearing on what you should pay?  Makes absolutely no sense.  Your costs are going to be completely different and unique to your own situation?  Do you have a business plan?  Who wants to tan at the gym anyways?  You're all sweaty afterwards and it's it makes you feel like shit if you do it before tanning.  So tanning salon would be a major drain on your profit.  I think you should stick to construction tough guy.  Leave the real businesses to the experts LOL :)
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 10:53:23 PM
So have you ran the numbers?  You say you only have 600 members.  What do you plan on charging them per month for membership fees?  How does asking getbig members what they pay have any bearing on what you should pay?  Makes absolutely no sense.  Your costs are going to be completely different and unique to your own situation?  Do you have a business plan?  Who wants to tan at the gym anyways?  You're all sweaty afterwards and it's it makes you feel like shit if you do it before tanning.  So tanning salon would be a major drain on your profit.  I think you should stick to construction tough guy.  Leave the real businesses to the experts LOL :)
So tell me what do you do
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 10:54:49 PM
So tell me what do you do

Ask around.  Everyone knows what I do.   ;D
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 11:00:24 PM
Ask around.  Everyone knows what I do.   ;D
affraid to tell me  I dont feel the need to ask anyone about you
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 26, 2010, 11:05:12 PM
Fuck your so stupid.  600 is the amount of members wanting to join this is without any advertising or promotion.  I expect to have 1200 members by the end of year three   At 450 per year and 600 for the premium package The projected income is between 270g and 350g This is without extras ie. tanning from non members and supplement sales.  Cost of running the business on a worse case scenario is 10g per month. This includes insurance ...utilities and cost of advertising.    If you think I havent done my homework then your a DUMB N I G G E R

10g's a month?  BWAAAAAHAAAAAAA it's going to cost way more than that a month.  You are clueless.  My wife and I are in the process of opening up a bar.  I know what it takes to write a business plan and the realities of opening up a business.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 11:10:30 PM
why would it cost more than 10g a month  please explain
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: no one on January 26, 2010, 11:20:37 PM


ahahahahahahaha

this 'slacker' guy is a real beaut!

a millionaire, and makes enough to write off any expense he occurs!

ahahahahahahaha

omg




bwahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 26, 2010, 11:33:09 PM

ahahahahahahaha

this 'slacker' guy is a real beaut!

a millionaire, and makes enough to write off any expense he occurs!

ahahahahahahaha

omg




bwahahahahahahahahahaha
translation   Im a loser and want to be like slacker
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 26, 2010, 11:38:58 PM
translation   Im a loser and want to be like slacker

Slacker, why are you afraid to post your name or photo.  Someone of your stature (which is similar to Goodrum's) would surely like everyone to know who he is.  I don't get you.  You brag about all this you have yet your are either afraid or ashamed of your name and appearance.  Can you explain this.  yet in another thread you said your are all over YouTube and you are going to the Arnold with your name on your shirt.  Can you please make it easy for all of us and maybe put in columns "the bullshit" and "the truth".  thanks
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 27, 2010, 12:18:59 AM
I have some friends from my old gym that are trainers and have offered  their services to me.  They will eventually be paying me 10 bucks per hour of training.   And I live in a good town with decent kids and I own a convenience store and they all come in there at lunch and we have never had a problem.   Also as a ex cop I have alot of friends who work at our local PD and they will workout for free in lieu of payment they will be security on a part time basis

So, you were a millionaire at 25 and still became a cop. You're awesome! How do you fit being a competitive MMA fighter in all this? BTW, I' still waiting for your pics as you promised.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 27, 2010, 01:55:38 AM
Slacker.

What are your monthly costs..............

How much is lease rent (or mortgage payment)
Workmans comp and medical insurance
insurance
security
equipment lease payment (plus minimal of 10% cash down)
telephone
cable
cleaning
loan payment (?)
interest on loan
group fitness instructors
personal trainers
general staff including hourly and salary
COG
computers
membership software and fees
printing
postage
internet
advertising and marketing costs
maintenance
taxes
electrical
water
sewage
gas
and a few other monthly costs


Other costs........

If leasing you need first and last month lease payment
Is the landlord (if leasing) giving you any TI $'s
Build-out cost including ff&e (HVAC, rough plumbing & electrical, locker rooms, amenities, showers, toilets and stalls, archeticural drawings, permits, materials, security, insulation, fire system, juice bar, front reception

These are just a few to think about.  get a spread sheet going and do a five year Projection with income and expenses.

this will really lay it out for you on what you can do.  You need more ancillary profit centers.  You can't count on membership only. Tanning beds should not be free.  They are an expense that you are making a monthly payment on if you are leasing them.  That comes out of your bottom line.  If someone wants to use it they will pay.  Having free tanning will NOT bring in members.  Make it so they see a value in it and are willing to pay.  You want your members to spend money in your gym.  Don't let them train there and then go to GNC and buy supplements or buy online.  If the price is good they will buy from you.  Get the best price you can from the supp company(s) you are dealing with.  Get them to give you freebies for promotions.  Have them sponsor your t-shirts and then you can get them for free or very little.


Some things to chew on


Amazing how anybody can open a business.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 27, 2010, 01:57:29 AM
i own a 16000 sq ft gym. 2000 members. had it since 1992.   lot of stress, even if you do every thing perfect 2 percent of members will always bitch.'

wasn't being an idiot, i have other businesses that are way less work and make way more money.

sorry, i thought you wanted input.

What other businesses do you operate? And how do you find the time if a gym is so labor intensive?
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: stormshadow on January 27, 2010, 02:30:36 AM
Well heres the difference between me and most of the slaves here on GETBIG if I lose money Ill still have plenty to survive. Its amazing how you all work out  you all buy supplements and yet none of you think a gym will be successful.  let me lay it out for you.

I own the building
I have enough money to support this business until it starts to produce residual income.
If it fails  OH WELL atleast ill have one hell of a home gym
And I have done my research I know my demographic
I wasnt asking any of you fucking ass clowns IF I SHOULD DO IT
I simply asked what you pay and what are some things you would like to see
 

You own the building?  Not for long...

"Yo bros, I'm gonna open a gym, I need ideas"

Fucking Dumbass...

Why don't you stick to sucking cock for money... "Packer" Lol

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: stormshadow on January 27, 2010, 02:35:36 AM
So have you ran the numbers?  You say you only have 600 members.  What do you plan on charging them per month for membership fees?  How does asking getbig members what they pay have any bearing on what you should pay?  Makes absolutely no sense.  Your costs are going to be completely different and unique to your own situation?  Do you have a business plan?  Who wants to tan at the gym anyways?  You're all sweaty afterwards and it's it makes you feel like shit if you do it before tanning.  So tanning salon would be a major drain on your profit.  I think you should stick to construction tough guy.  Leave the real businesses to the experts LOL :)

Good points MM... I love these stupid ass cocksuckers like the fudge "SlackerPacker" that post on Getbig.  It keeps things entertaining...
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Hulkotron on January 27, 2010, 05:25:12 AM
Fuck your so stupid.  600 is the amount of members wanting to join this is without any advertising or promotion.  I expect to have 1200 members by the end of year three   At 450 per year and 600 for the premium package The projected income is between 270g and 350g This is without extras ie. tanning from non members and supplement sales.  Cost of running the business on a worse case scenario is 10g per month. This includes insurance ...utilities and cost of advertising.    If you think I havent done my homework then your a DUMB N I G G E R

Here is a business pro-tip: income does not equal revenue.  But since you are a millionaire business owner you probably knew that already :D
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Marty Champions on January 27, 2010, 05:42:44 AM
open up a strip club if you can?, add in some slot machines?, cigarette machines, youd be shitten pretty

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 27, 2010, 06:20:36 AM
open up a strip club if you can?, add in some slot machines?, cigarette machines, youd be shitten pretty


addictions always make money whether the stock market or a business...mofos cant give them up
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: CT_Muscle on January 27, 2010, 07:15:12 AM
Because dude you are offering free tanning?  Juice bars?  And other shit that no other gyms offer for a variety of reasons.  Don't you think the major franchises would have figure out if those things were profitable by now and offer them?  They aren't that's why.  If you are serving food i.e. juicebar with protein shakes there are a whole host of concerns, licenses and overhead that go along with that.  Also do you know what it takes to run a tanning salon?  You have to be inspected by the health department, and there are a whole host of things that can go wrong with that as well.  You're clueless.  If you want to waste money go to Vegas. 

Funny thing is my gym offers free tanning and has a juice bar and does extremely well. They also have child care and the rates are 25$ a month.

http://www.theedgefitnessclubs.com/edge/
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: newmom on January 27, 2010, 07:21:19 AM
wow child care on weekends NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E..

I forget CT muscle your on the other end of the state than I
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: CT_Muscle on January 27, 2010, 07:23:13 AM
wow child care on weekends NICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E..

I forget CT muscle your on the other end of the state than I

oh really? what area, by the casino's?
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 07:28:44 AM
Fuck your so stupid.  600 is the amount of members wanting to join this is without any advertising or promotion.  I expect to have 1200 members by the end of year three   At 450 per year and 600 for the premium package The projected income is between 270g and 350g This is without extras ie. tanning from non members and supplement sales.  Cost of running the business on a worse case scenario is 10g per month. This includes insurance ...utilities and cost of advertising.    If you think I havent done my homework then your a DUMB N I G G E R

You are so far off.  But, it looks like you are too stupid to see it.  If you think your costs are going to be this low then you have idea or belong in this business.  You might have done your homework but you got a huge "F" on your trest anyway.  You must have Goodrum as a partner.  How many sq. ft is this gym?  Yopu might get way with cost of $10,000 a month if it is under 5,000 sq. ft.  But you will also not get the membership base.  And to prove how fucking moronic and stupid you are.  You say you have 600 people wanting to join.  Do you have a signed contract and their money in the bank.  Of course you don't.  So you are basing what people tell you.  Hell make it 601 I will join.  You are too stupid to own a gym.  Start one of those 1000 sq ft gym Goodrum was doing. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: newmom on January 27, 2010, 07:39:04 AM
oh really? what area, by the casino's?

yea I'm in the Groton/Mystic area and you
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: CT_Muscle on January 27, 2010, 08:36:57 AM
yea I'm in the Groton/Mystic area and you

Fairfield
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 08:47:36 AM
You are so far off.  But, it looks like you are too stupid to see it.  If you think your costs are going to be this low then you have idea or belong in this business.  You might have done your homework but you got a huge "F" on your trest anyway.  You must have Goodrum as a partner.  How many sq. ft is this gym?  Yopu might get way with cost of $10,000 a month if it is under 5,000 sq. ft.  But you will also not get the membership base.  And to prove how fucking moronic and stupid you are.  You say you have 600 people wanting to join.  Do you have a signed contract and their money in the bank.  Of course you don't.  So you are basing what people tell you.  Hell make it 601 I will join.  You are too stupid to own a gym.  Start one of those 1000 sq ft gym Goodrum was doing. 
you still didnt explain why its going to cost more than 10g a month.   
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: newmom on January 27, 2010, 08:53:49 AM
Fairfield

cha ching..considering your in that part of the state, those are cheap gym fees
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 09:01:03 AM
Funny thing is my gym offers free tanning and has a juice bar and does extremely well. They also have child care and the rates are 25$ a month.

http://www.theedgefitnessclubs.com/edge/

You have to have ancillary profit centers in a gym to make it.  You can not run a gym on membership fees alone.  Child Care can be a big income but what it does is provide an additional amenity that will attract potential members who need that service.  There are alot of single moms and dads or couple who use the excuse they can't get to the gym because they have a kid and no one to watch them.  Group fitness is another huge program that brings in additional members.  The floor alone not including prep just materials will cost about $8 to $10 a sq. ft.  So a small 1000 sq. ft room floor will be about $10,000 plus mirrors, A/C, and equipment like balls, bands, mats etc.  This Slacker guy obviously is just full of shit and is in no way thinking of opening a gym.  Either that or he has no idea on how to put together the numbers.  I have owned two gyms and have been in management, marketing or consulting since the 80's.  It was never a full time job for me but something I just liked doing.  

Slacker are you having any equipment in this gym of yours.  Are you buying it or leasing it.  Have you priced out cardio equipment.  One more thing.  Did you get your advise from Goodrum
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:01:19 AM
Funny thing is my gym offers free tanning and has a juice bar and does extremely well. They also have child care and the rates are 25$ a month.

http://www.theedgefitnessclubs.com/edge/
Thank you and I am only offering these features to premium package members and the fees will be between 45 and 75 per month depending on package.   On a five year plan I hope to have a 1000 members by then.  generating somewhere in the area of 500g/700g on fees alone. NOt to mention supplements and other extras
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 09:06:53 AM
Thank you and I am only offering these features to premium package members and the fees will be between 45 and 75 per month depending on package.   On a five year plan I hope to have a 1000 members by then.  generating somewhere in the area of 500g/700g on fees alone. NOt to mention supplements and other extras

It is obvious you have no idea about operating or owning a gym.  That is fine.  But people like me and Hazbin (whio is very successful at it) have and know what it takes.  It doesn't matter if you own the property or not.  There are costs.  How many sq ft is this gym of yours (or building).  I take it from your millionaire status you own it 100% and don't have any payments on it except for taxes.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:07:01 AM
You have to have ancillary profit centers in a gym to make it.  You can not run a gym on membership fees alone.  Child Care can be a big income but what it does is provide an additional amenity that will attract potential members who need that service.  There are alot of single moms and dads or couple who use the excuse they can't get to the gym because they have a kid and no one to watch them.  Group fitness is another huge program that brings in additional members.  The floor alone not including prep just materials will cost about $8 to $10 a sq. ft.  So a small 1000 sq. ft room floor will be about $10,000 plus mirrors, A/C, and equipment like balls, bands, mats etc.  This Slacker guy obviously is just full of shit and is in no way thinking of opening a gym.  Either that or he has no idea on how to put together the numbers.  I have owned two gyms and have been in management, marketing or consulting since the 80's.  It was never a full time job for me but something I just liked doing.  

Slacker are you having any equipment in this gym of yours.  Are you buying it or leasing it.  Have you priced out cardio equipment.  One more thing.  Did you get your advise from Goodrum
I am done talking to you. your an idiot and obviously a failure at life.  If I had to spend 250g to open  I could and I would.  I don't need a loan I am not searching for your approval stupid.  I simply asked what you all pay to get an idea of what would be a reasonable price.   If you read my thread in its entirety you will see I have answers all the same questions you keep asking.   I have built over 30 successful business's in the last 16 years.  I don't need your support or input.  So you go back to the counter now  I am sure somone is going to place a big order with you for a big mac and large fry.            
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:09:13 AM
It is obvious you have no idea about operating or owning a gym.  That is fine.  But people like me and Hazbin (whio is very successful at it) have and know what it takes.  It doesn't matter if you own the property or not.  There are costs.  How many sq ft is this gym of yours (or building).  I take it from your millionaire status you own it 100% and don't have any payments on it except for taxes.
If your so smart fuck face you would know these answers because you would have read the entire thread.   Then you wouldn't be asking me stupid questions.  A smart business man would have done this to ensure their response was both inteligent and articulated in direct and helpful manner
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 27, 2010, 09:14:33 AM
I am done talking to you. your an idiot and obviously a failure at life.  If I had to spend 250g to open  I could and I would.  I don't need a loan I am not searching for your approval stupid.  I simply asked what you all pay to get an idea of what would be a reasonable price.   If you read my thread in its entirety you will see I have answers all the same questions you keep asking.   I have built over 30 successful business's in the last 16 years.  I don't need your support or input.  So you go back to the counter now  I am sure somone is going to place a big order with you for a big mac and large fry.            

Holy cow this legend keeps growing.  So now you have 30 businesses, a cop, a millionaire, a real estate mogul a store owner, john cena look alike and a gym owner.  Yet you have time to post on getbig through all of this.  WOW
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:20:14 AM
Holy cow this legend keeps growing.  So now you have 30 businesses, a cop, a millionaire, a real estate mogul a store owner, john cena look alike and a gym owner.  Yet you have time to post on getbig through all of this.  WOW
see hows how ignorant the average getbigger is.  I never said I own 30 business's I said have built them. And then i sold them it what smart people do.  Yeah I was a cop and left that career many years ago. I never once said I was a mogul. And as fa as the store I have owned that one for years and never worked there a day in my life.  I know Americans are normally fat lazy and uneducated and you are proving it.
If you cant think of anything helpful to say. then please just stfu.   your hating is pathetic its weak and your all proving my point 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: CT_Muscle on January 27, 2010, 09:21:38 AM
cha ching..considering your in that part of the state, those are cheap gym fees

They are cheap. I can thank planet fitness for moving in next door for that. Although I would rather pay $50 a month like they used to charge prior to PF opening. Now there are too many people in the way who don't put equipment back and have no clue wtf they are doing.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Natural Man on January 27, 2010, 09:22:02 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mythomania

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Pseudologia fantastica, mythomania, or pathological lying, is one of several terms applied by psychiatrists to the behavior of habitual or compulsive lying.[1][2] It was first described in the medical literature in 1891 by Anton Delbrueck.[2] Although it is a controversial topic,[2] one definition of pathological lying is the following: "Pathological lying is falsification entirely disproportionate to any discernible end in view, may be extensive and very complicated, and may manifest over a period of years or even a lifetime."[1]

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: StAge ThRee on January 27, 2010, 09:29:39 AM
I just spent 30 minutes reading this entire thread and although most disagree with you and are "hating" as you say I dont see much cause for all the upset. You obviously have dun your homework and it appears as though you can afford it. So I say go for it.  I read all the haters and all I can say is do what makes you happy.  
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: CT_Muscle on January 27, 2010, 09:33:16 AM
the best way to put the haters in their place is to succeed  ;)
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 27, 2010, 09:37:09 AM
see hows how ignorant the average getbigger is.  I never said I own 30 business's I said have built them. And then i sold them it what smart people do.  Yeah I was a cop and left that career many years ago. I never once said I was a mogul. And as fa as the store I have owned that one for years and never worked there a day in my life.  I know Americans are normally fat lazy and uneducated and you are proving it.
If you cant think of anything helpful to say. then please just stfu.   your hating is pathetic its weak and your all proving my point 

So you're a millionaire, started 30 businesses, did all of your homework bashing onlyme who actually posted great info, yet you come to getbig to find out how much gym fees are.

I'm sorry douche, but if you did your fucking homework, this would be the first thing you would need to check. Before you find out how much something would cost you might want to see what the return would be.  I can't believe you did all your homework and fact checking yet depend on getbig for gym fee information.  Probably the most vital component to your whole business plan.  What The Fuck man!
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:45:51 AM
the best way to put the haters in their place is to succeed  ;)
Thank you.  I don't need to prove anything to these clowns.  It justs blows my mind that there are so many haters. I mean why would you want to bash on someones idea.   I could honestly open this gym for free and not go broke.   I have always wanted a really amazing home gym and I was looking into equipment and just getting a couple of treadmills or ellipticals  was going to be over 10g.After looking it to all th free weights and stands/benches with mats and mirrors I just thought we should just open a gym at our building in town.  After researching demography our area and client base.    It would appear that there is a serious calling for a gym in my area.   I dont an issue with people having questions about my plan but to call me out and tell me I am lying. Its sad.  
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: no one on January 27, 2010, 09:48:28 AM

'slacker' getting passed around like a 5 dollar whore in this thread.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:48:50 AM
So you're a millionaire, started 30 businesses, did all of your homework bashing onlyme who actually posted great info, yet you come to getbig to find out how much gym fees are.

I'm sorry douche, but if you did your fucking homework, this would be the first thing you would need to check. Before you find out how much something would cost you might want to see what the return would be.  I can't believe you did all your homework and fact checking yet depend on getbig for gym fee information.  Probably the most vital component to your whole business plan.  What The Fuck man!
are you retarded??   If I have 50000 gym using people. "getbiggers" then would it be a wise to ask what everyone is paying to find a average expectable fee
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:49:38 AM
'slacker' i cant go past a single thread with your name in it .
fixed
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 09:50:02 AM
Thank you.  I don't need to prove anything to these clowns.  It justs blows my mind that there are so many haters. I mean why would you want to bash on someones idea.   I could honestly open this gym for free and not go broke.   I have always wanted a really amazing home gym and I was looking into equipment and just getting a couple of treadmills or ellipticals  was going to be over 10g.After looking it to all th free weights and stands/benches with mats and mirrors I just thought we should just open a gym at our building in town.  After researching demography our area and client base.    It would appear that there is a serious calling for a gym in my area.   I dont an issue with people having questions about my plan but to call me out and tell me I am lying. Its sad.  

Yes you do and you know it.  Why else would you start a thread like this.  Since you are so rich and you stated that you can open this gym for free, then why don't you.  I will ask again.  How many sq ft is this gym going to be.  And what is the population within a 5 to 10 mile radius.  And did you put together a Business Plan
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:51:17 AM
Yes you do and you know it.  Why else would you start a thread like this.  Since you are so rich and you stated that you can open this gym for free, then why don't you.  I will ask again.  How many sq ft is this gym going to be.  And what is the population within a 5 to 10 mile radius.  And did you put together a Business Plan
did you read the entire thread
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 10:03:48 AM
did you read the entire thread

no that is why I am asking  All I got was you won a building are so rich you can make it free and you don't care if you lose money.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 10:04:23 AM
Yes you do and you know it.  Why else would you start a thread like this.  Since you are so rich and you stated that you can open this gym for free, then why don't you.  I will ask again.  How many sq ft is this gym going to be.  And what is the population within a 5 to 10 mile radius.  And did you put together a Business Plan
nearest gym is 28km away.  population of my town and surrounding towns is over 100g  building is 7500 sq feet as I have already said in this thread.   Understand something. I am not opening this gym because I believe it will make millions. I am not delusional and I always do my home work
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Smokincrazy on January 27, 2010, 10:07:00 AM
10g's a month?  BWAAAAAHAAAAAAA it's going to cost way more than that a month.  You are clueless.  My wife and I are in the process of opening up a bar.  I know what it takes to write a business plan and the realities of opening up a business.
Is it going to be a gay or straight bar?  Does your wife know about your promiscuous gay past.......just curious
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 10:08:11 AM
Is it going to be a gay or straight bar?  Does your wife know about your promiscuous gay past.......just curious
lmfao
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 10:09:58 AM
nearest gym is 28km away.  population of my town and surrounding towns is over 100g  building is 7500 sq feet as I have already said in this thread.   Understand something. I am not opening this gym because I believe it will make millions. I am not delusional and I always do my home work

okay, thank you.  Now are you planning to have locker rooms.  If you are which you should there are codes to follow on how many toilets and stalls you need.  Even at the minimum you will prpobably need about 500 sq ft for each locker room which would be very small but with your potential membership base maybe okay.  You will need to do some groundwork with excavation and plumbing and electrical.  showers, stalls and toilets, sinks, lockers and benches, flooring and lighting and all the small fixtures and finish work.  You are looking at around a minimum of $50 to $100 a sq ft.  So about $75,000 minimum to build justy the locker rooms.  Not including permits, and drawings.  I got more but I need to leave for the gym
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 10:26:10 AM
okay, thank you.  Now are you planning to have locker rooms.  If you are which you should there are codes to follow on how many toilets and stalls you need.  Even at the minimum you will prpobably need about 500 sq ft for each locker room which would be very small but with your potential membership base maybe okay.  You will need to do some groundwork with excavation and plumbing and electrical.  showers, stalls and toilets, sinks, lockers and benches, flooring and lighting and all the small fixtures and finish work.  You are looking at around a minimum of $50 to $100 a sq ft.  So about $75,000 minimum to build justy the locker rooms.  Not including permits, and drawings.  I got more but I need to leave for the gym
I dont think we will offer showers. Most likely a change room with toilets.     The building was previously a dance studio so there are existing showers and toilets. If anyone has anything helpful I am willing and interested in hearing it.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: hazbin on January 27, 2010, 11:24:05 AM
What other businesses do you operate? And how do you find the time if a gym is so labor intensive?

not hi'jacking the thread, just answering this question.

real estate revenue properties and re- development are the main. i am also minor share holder in a couple of incredible companies.

through the 90's i busted my ass as many hours as possible running the gym. after 10 straight years it was at a point where i could let it run with employees. it is not as profitable now as then, but takes little effort on my part so it's a great trade-off.  some residual income vs. more linear created income.

slacker , dont be so angry with noworries, he has probably studied the health club industry more than any of us and all his points are legit and should be considered.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 27, 2010, 12:03:30 PM
I dont think we will offer showers. Most likely a change room with toilets.     The building was previously a dance studio so there are existing showers and toilets. If anyone has anything helpful I am willing and interested in hearing it.

Without showers where will all of the naked old men hang out?
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 27, 2010, 01:11:17 PM
I dont think we will offer showers. Most likely a change room with toilets.     The building was previously a dance studio so there are existing showers and toilets. If anyone has anything helpful I am willing and interested in hearing it.

You're going to offer free tanning and juice bar but no showers in the locker room?  I think showers especially coin operated ones would be a GREAT IDEA!   ;D 

Dude seriously, you're going to blow so much disposable income on this money pit.  If you already OWN the building why not just open up a private gym for friends and family?  Throw some used machines in there and a few pieces of cardio...........hell you could have a huge indoor area where you can do some strongman type shit.  That's what I think would be a really cool trend in gyms.  I could imagine a huge fenced in outdoor area where guys go to do strongman stuff like log lifting, tire rolls etc.  I would belong to a gym like that in a heart beat.  But seriously, if you own the buiding why go to the trouble of making it a public gym?  Makes no sense.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 03:10:03 PM
You're going to offer free tanning and juice bar but no showers in the locker room?  I think showers especially coin operated ones would be a GREAT IDEA!   ;D 

Dude seriously, you're going to blow so much disposable income on this money pit.  If you already OWN the building why not just open up a private gym for friends and family?  Throw some used machines in there and a few pieces of cardio...........hell you could have a huge indoor area where you can do some strongman type shit.  That's what I think would be a really cool trend in gyms.  I could imagine a huge fenced in outdoor area where guys go to do strongman stuff like log lifting, tire rolls etc.  I would belong to a gym like that in a heart beat.  But seriously, if you own the buiding why go to the trouble of making it a public gym?  Makes no sense.
You have to understand something I WANT A GYM.   I own the building. It has been empty for over 18 months.   I didnt say I was going to have a free juice bar or free tanning.   IT WOULD REQUIRE A PURCHASE OF A PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP. And I said I would serve beverages ie juice water energy drinks etc etc... for a fee    I can run this business for 10g a month and I know I can.   My wife to be my mother in law and sister in laws will be the only employees.   I am offering free member ships to the local PD/FD which will in turn be free in house security.   I may be open 24 hours a day depending on insurance. I am still waiting for the quote on the increased premium. Since this wasnt part of my initial plan.  

I think you need to read the entire thread and maybe pay attention this time.  

MY TOWN NEEDS A GYM
THERE IS NO GYM WITHIN 28KM POPULATION WITHIN 12 KM IS 100G
THERE ARE OVER 2000 HIGHSCHOOL STUDENTS AND THIS IS A FOOTBALL/HOCKEY TOWN
I OWN A 7500SQ FOOT BUILDING PREVIOUSLY A DANCE STUDIO EQUIPT WITH BATHROOMS AND CHANGE ROOMS. MAY/MAY NOT INSTALL SHOWERS
I CAN RUN THIS FOR UNDER 10G A MONTH
WITH ONLY 250 CLIENTS INCOME IS 15G WITHOUT EXTRAS IE.SUPPS/TANS/BEVERAGES/SNACKS
I AM  HOPING TO HAVE 1000 CLIENTS IN 5 YEARS WHICH IS 60G A MONTH IN INCOME WITH MOST LIKELY HIGHER OPERATING COST
I AM NOT OPENING THIS FOR A OVER NIGHT PROFIT
I live in this town and my family lives in this town. My kids will be going to school here one day and I think itll be best for them to have these facilities at their disposal.   Imagine what it would have been like for you to have grown up with your parents owning a gym.
And like hazbin has said once your up and going it runs itself with very little required time from him.  
I dont take chances I take calculated risk.  And this is a good investment.  
Please try to understand I have another full time business which supports me and my family very well.
I fiqure Ill set this up before I have children at home to deal with.


Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 27, 2010, 03:44:08 PM
You have to understand something I WANT A GYM.   I own the building. It has been empty for over 18 months.   I didnt say I was going to have a free juice bar or free tanning.   IT WOULD REQUIRE A PURCHASE OF A PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP. And I said I would serve beverages ie juice water energy drinks etc etc... for a fee    I can run this business for 10g a month and I know I can.   My wife to be my mother in law and sister in laws will be the only employees.   I am offering free member ships to the local PD/FD which will in turn be free in house security.   I may be open 24 hours a day depending on insurance. I am still waiting for the quote on the increased premium. Since this wasnt part of my initial plan.  

I think you need to read the entire thread and maybe pay attention this time.  

MY TOWN NEEDS A GYM
THERE IS NO GYM WITHIN 28KM POPULATION WITHIN 12 KM IS 100G
THERE ARE OVER 2000 HIGHSCHOOL STUDENTS AND THIS IS A FOOTBALL/HOCKEY TOWN
I OWN A 7500SQ FOOT BUILDING PREVIOUSLY A DANCE STUDIO EQUIPT WITH BATHROOMS AND CHANGE ROOMS. MAY/MAY NOT INSTALL SHOWERS
I CAN RUN THIS FOR UNDER 10G A MONTH
WITH ONLY 250 CLIENTS INCOME IS 15G WITHOUT EXTRAS IE.SUPPS/TANS/BEVERAGES/SNACKS
I AM  HOPING TO HAVE 1000 CLIENTS IN 5 YEARS WHICH IS 60G A MONTH IN INCOME WITH MOST LIKELY HIGHER OPERATING COST
I AM NOT OPENING THIS FOR A OVER NIGHT PROFIT
I live in this town and my family lives in this town. My kids will be going to school here one day and I think itll be best for them to have these facilities at their disposal.   Imagine what it would have been like for you to have grown up with your parents owning a gym.
And like hazbin has said once your up and going it runs itself with very little required time from him.  
I dont take chances I take calculated risk.  And this is a good investment.  
Please try to understand I have another full time business which supports me and my family very well.
I fiqure Ill set this up before I have children at home to deal with.




Yeah maybe your right.  Post some pics of this place.  Are your wife, mother in law and sisters in law smoking hot?  Because if they aren't it will definitely drag on your business.  Also if your wife is going to be working there regularly and you're going to fill the place up with cops and figherfighters chances are pretty high she'll end up fucking one or two.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: regmac on January 27, 2010, 03:49:04 PM
I train at work. Since i work in a police dept, we have a great bodybuilding style gym. My apt has a nice plan B alternative if I cannot make it. But when I get bored working out at work or home I go to Black Diamond in Central L. A.. Its 20 bucks a month nothing more nothing less,,,no contract. The equipment is shitty  but its a cool enviroment to train.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 27, 2010, 03:53:22 PM
You have to understand something I WANT A GYM.   I own the building. It has been empty for over 18 months.   I didnt say I was going to have a free juice bar or free tanning.   IT WOULD REQUIRE A PURCHASE OF A PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP. And I said I would serve beverages ie juice water energy drinks etc etc... for a fee    I can run this business for 10g a month and I know I can.   My wife to be my mother in law and sister in laws will be the only employees.   I am offering free member ships to the local PD/FD which will in turn be free in house security.   I may be open 24 hours a day depending on insurance. I am still waiting for the quote on the increased premium. Since this wasnt part of my initial plan.  

I think you need to read the entire thread and maybe pay attention this time.  

MY TOWN NEEDS A GYM
THERE IS NO GYM WITHIN 28KM POPULATION WITHIN 12 KM IS 100G
THERE ARE OVER 2000 HIGHSCHOOL STUDENTS AND THIS IS A FOOTBALL/HOCKEY TOWN
I OWN A 7500SQ FOOT BUILDING PREVIOUSLY A DANCE STUDIO EQUIPT WITH BATHROOMS AND CHANGE ROOMS. MAY/MAY NOT INSTALL SHOWERS
I CAN RUN THIS FOR UNDER 10G A MONTH
WITH ONLY 250 CLIENTS INCOME IS 15G WITHOUT EXTRAS IE.SUPPS/TANS/BEVERAGES/SNACKS
I AM  HOPING TO HAVE 1000 CLIENTS IN 5 YEARS WHICH IS 60G A MONTH IN INCOME WITH MOST LIKELY HIGHER OPERATING COST
I AM NOT OPENING THIS FOR A OVER NIGHT PROFIT
I live in this town and my family lives in this town. My kids will be going to school here one day and I think itll be best for them to have these facilities at their disposal.   Imagine what it would have been like for you to have grown up with your parents owning a gym.
And like hazbin has said once your up and going it runs itself with very little required time from him.  
I dont take chances I take calculated risk.  And this is a good investment.  
Please try to understand I have another full time business which supports me and my family very well.
I fiqure Ill set this up before I have children at home to deal with.




So $60000/1000 is $60 per month.  You honestly think highschool kids are going to pay that much, yet the people that actually make money like cops and firemen will get in free?  WOW! 

Have you considered any contingencies?  At the LA Fitness I go to there is always one or two machines on the fritz, so that is a repair charge.  Maintenance of the place, cleaning up after dirty foul fuckers at the gym.

Your real money will be from selling steroids to the highschool kids. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 03:56:58 PM
Yeah maybe your right.  Post some pics of this place.  Are your wife, mother in law and sisters in law smoking hot?  Because if they aren't it will definitely drag on your business.  Also if your wife is going to be working there regularly and you're going to fill the place up with cops and figherfighters chances are pretty high she'll end up fucking one or two.
Yeah they are all hot.   Im not worried about her screwing around. Shes not a whore like the woman you sound use to.  
I am flattered that you are so concerned for me and my money.   There has been only one person who has been supportive though this whole thread and when I get it set up I am going to invite them to come to my town for a weekend on me.   Then they can take all the pics they want and show the circus aka GETBIG how I roll
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: odilly on January 27, 2010, 04:00:29 PM
congrats hazbin you just won a free trip to moosejaw saskatchewan :D
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 04:00:40 PM
you guys are right. I never should have asked for any ones opinion here. How the fuck would anyone here know what it takes with the exception of hazbin.  to own and or operate a gym.   You guys dont even workout.  

I am not naive I know what it takes to run a business and I also know what can go wrong.  

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: newmom on January 27, 2010, 04:22:40 PM
Slacker, do what you have to do and want to..I commend you for doing so..Good Luck
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 27, 2010, 04:24:24 PM
you guys are right. I never should have asked for any ones opinion here. How the fuck would anyone here know what it takes with the exception of hazbin.  to own and or operate a gym.   You #### dont even workout.  

I am not naive I know what it takes to run a business and I also know what can go wrong.  



You #####  don't #### ####### ############ ##### ##### #### and #### even ##### try #####.

Good luck and hope your gym does work out.  No pun intended.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 04:25:53 PM
thank you
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: odilly on January 27, 2010, 04:32:06 PM
now everyone is being nice to try and get a free trip to moosejaw, i say slacker makes a contest out of this...
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 04:34:09 PM
now everyone is being nice to try and get a free trip to moosejaw, i say slacker makes a contest out of this...
classic.   I think ill bring hazbin and he could educate me and critique my gym
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 04:34:13 PM
If your so smart fuck face you would know these answers because you would have read the entire thread.   Then you wouldn't be asking me stupid questions.  A smart business man would have done this to ensure their response was both inteligent and articulated in direct and helpful manner

hahahaah if you were 1/10 as successful as you are trying to bullshit your way threw you wouldn't be on here trying to get answers.  I know one thing you are doing this on your own cause your ignorance is dangerous for any partner you may have.  I am pretty sure you will come back and say how rich you are and you don't need any partner.  But in fact not one person would come close to opening a gym you.  I find it funny how you count a paper route as being a successful business you built.  You way to fucking stupid.  I give you zero chance of ever opening.  But it was fun exposing your lies and bullshit and your delusion.  Now, get back to being super rich.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 04:39:01 PM
hahahaah if you were 1/10 as successful as you are trying to bullshit your way threw you wouldn't be on here trying to get answers.  I know one thing you are doing this on your own cause your ignorance is dangerous for any partner you may have.  I am pretty sure you will come back and say how rich you are and you don't need any partner.  But in fact not one person would come close to opening a gym you.  I find it funny how you count a paper route as being a successful business you built.  You way to fucking stupid.  I give you zero chance of ever opening.  But it was fun exposing your lies and bullshit and your delusion.  Now, get back to being super rich.
wow is English your second language that was really hard to decipher but thanks for your support. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: ARMZ on January 27, 2010, 04:57:43 PM
everybody and their mothers want to start a gym now..  i hear it at least 10 times a day..  there's more to owning a gym than having a building and buying some equipment..
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: odilly on January 27, 2010, 05:06:22 PM
you should hire avesher as your front desk guy i am sure he would do the short move plus if he has internet acces he could play poker and post here...he did say he needed another job
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 05:08:03 PM
You have to understand something I WANT A GYM.   I own the building. It has been empty for over 18 months.   I didnt say I was going to have a free juice bar or free tanning.   IT WOULD REQUIRE A PURCHASE OF A PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP. And I said I would serve beverages ie juice water energy drinks etc etc... for a fee    I can run this business for 10g a month and I know I can  YOU ARE STUPID!.   My wife to be my mother in law and sister in laws will be the only employees NOT FOR LONG.  SO YOU ARE SAYING YOU ARTE ONLY HAVING ONE EMPLOYEE WORKING EACH SHIFT.  WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PEOPLE COME IN FOR THE FIRST TIME AND WANT A TOUR AND HAVE QUESTIONS.  THEN SOMEONE NEEDS TO BUY A DRINK AND THEN 4 PEOPLE COME AND NEED TO CHECK IN AND A GUY JUST CAME OVER AND TOLD YOU THE TOILET IS FLOWING OVER.  DO YOU THINK ONE PERSON CAN HANDLE ALL THIS.  AND IF YOU DON'T THINK IT WON'T HAPPEN SHOWS YOUR STUPIDITY.   I am offering free member ships to the local PD/FD which will in turn be free in house security SO THEY WILL BE THERE 24 HOURS A DAY.  YOU ARE FOOLING YOURSELF.   I may be open 24 hours a day depending on insurance.  I am still waiting for the quote on the increased premium. Since this wasnt part of my initial plan.   YOU HAVE NO PLAN

I think you need to read the entire thread and maybe pay attention this time.  

MY TOWN NEEDS A GYM  MAYBE THERE IS A REASON WHY THERE ISN'T ONE.  BUT MAYBE THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE SMART LIKE YOU TO OPEN ONE.
THERE IS NO GYM WITHIN 28KM POPULATION WITHIN 12 KM IS 100G   HOW MANY OF THESE GO TO THE GYM NOW.  
THERE ARE OVER 2000 HIGHSCHOOL STUDENTS AND THIS IS A FOOTBALL/HOCKEY TOWN   WELL YOU CAN'T CHARGE THE KIDS A PREMIUM PRICE SO THERE GOES SOME OFF YOUR NUMBERS
I OWN A 7500SQ FOOT BUILDING PREVIOUSLY A DANCE STUDIO EQUIPT WITH BATHROOMS AND CHANGE ROOMS. MAY/MAY NOT INSTALL SHOWERS  DEPENDING ON THE CODE YOU MAY HAVE TO ADD SOME TOILETS AND STALLS.  SORRY TO BURST YOUR BUBBLE.  HOW ABOUT LOCKERS WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO KEEP THEIR STUFF.  NO SHOWERS WILL MEAN NOT MANY PEOPLE GOING TO YOUR GYM IN THE MORNING BEFORE WORK.  STUPID MOVE.  BUT THEN AGAIN IT FITS YOUR M.O.
I CAN RUN THIS FOR UNDER 10G A MONTH NO YOU CAN'T AND YOU ARE STILL STUPID UNLESS YOU ARE NOT HAVING EQUIPMENT
WITH ONLY 250 CLIENTS INCOME IS 15G WITHOUT EXTRAS IE.SUPPS/TANS/BEVERAGES/SNACKS ALOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE PAYING MONTHLY THEY WILL WANT TO PAY EVERYTHING UP FRONT.  DO COUPLES GET A DISCOUNT OR A FAMILY.  HOW ABOUT CORPORATE RATES.  YOUR AVERAGE YOU HAVE IS $60.  GENERALLY 30% TO 50% AT THE LEAST WILL BE MONTHLY MEANING THE REST WILL INSIST ON PAYING IN FULL.  
I AM  HOPING TO HAVE 1000 CLIENTS IN 5 YEARS WHICH IS 60G A MONTH IN INCOME WITH MOST LIKELY HIGHER OPERATING COST  
I AM NOT OPENING THIS FOR A OVER NIGHT PROFIT  THIS IS THE ONLY SMART THING YOU SAID
I live in this town and my family lives in this town. My kids will be going to school here one day and I think itll be best for them to have these facilities at their disposal.   Imagine what it would have been like for you to have grown up with your parents owning a gym.  I LIKED THE GYM I WENT TO.  IT WAS GREAT
And like hazbin has said once your up and going it runs itself with very little required time from him.  BUT, HE HAS EMPLOYEES.  YOU SAID YOU WILL BE WORKING.  SO IF YOU WON'T BE THERE THEN YOU WILL BE PAYING FOR IT.  DO YOU THINK HE LEAVES HIS GYM EMPTY.  AGAIN............FORGET
I dont take chances I take calculated risk.  And this is a good investment.   WELL HATE TO TELL YOU BUT YOU HAVE NOT CALCULATED ANYTHING
Please try to understand I have another full time business which supports me and my family very well.  GOOD DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB.
I fiqure Ill set this up before I have children at home to deal with.  

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 05:13:16 PM
Thank you.  I don't need to prove anything to these clowns.  It justs blows my mind that there are so many haters. I mean why would you want to bash on someones idea.   I could honestly open this gym for free and not go broke.   I have always wanted a really amazing home gym and I was looking into equipment and just getting a couple of treadmills or ellipticals  was going to be over 10g.After looking it to all th free weights and stands/benches with mats and mirrors I just thought we should just open a gym at our building in town.  After researching demography our area and client base.    It would appear that there is a serious calling for a gym in my area.   I dont an issue with people having questions about my plan but to call me out and tell me I am lying. Its sad.  

So your gym will have a huge amount of cardio which is a big reason people go to the gym.  So you will have 2 treadmills.  I would expect you to have quite a line waiting for equipment.  But I am sure you thought about that.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 05:21:10 PM
everybody and their mothers want to start a gym now..  i hear it at least 10 times a day..  there's more to owning a gym than having a building and buying some equipment..

don't waste your time.  he won't listen to you cause you already have a gym and know what you are talking about.  he has some new formula that makes the gym run itself and doesn't need employees.  I think he has something big brewing.  He should keep it a secret.  He is brilliant
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: arce1988 on January 27, 2010, 05:21:50 PM
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Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: jwb on January 27, 2010, 05:33:48 PM
how big is the floor space?
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 27, 2010, 05:39:13 PM
So $60000/1000 is $60 per month.  You honestly think highschool kids are going to pay that much, yet the people that actually make money like cops and firemen will get in free?  WOW! 

Have you considered any contingencies?  At the LA Fitness I go to there is always one or two machines on the fritz, so that is a repair charge.  Maintenance of the place, cleaning up after dirty foul fuckers at the gym.

Your real money will be from selling steroids to the highschool kids. 

To be fair, I get minimum $420 per month on a 12 month contract. We do 3 month and 12 month contracts.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 05:40:19 PM
you guys are right. I never should have asked for any ones opinion here. How the fuck would anyone here know what it takes with the exception of hazbin.  to own and or operate a gym.   You #### dont even workout.  

I am not naive I know what it takes to run a business and I also know what can go wrong.  



sorry to burst your bubble again but you have NO idea how to run a gym and you are very naive to think that because you own other business that makes you versed in running a gym.  Just proves that you have no idea what you are doing and I would in fact be very surprised if you have even been in a gym.  Talking to you is like talking to Goodrum.  At least you have that "tie" to the industry.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Money Man on January 27, 2010, 05:41:12 PM
Here in Denver 24 hour fitness has taken over the city.
You would go hungary opening a gym here now.
I pay $39 a month my wife is on my membership for $23
a month and unlimited kids club for our two sons is $15 amonth.
I always wanted to own a gym, but now you can't make any money
in this city.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
To be fair, I get minimum $420 per month on a 12 month contract. We do 3 month and 12 month contracts.

Coach those are you fees for personal training right.  Those are not you gym fees.  Unless that includes the personal training.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 05:43:54 PM
Here in Denver 24 hour fitness has taken over the city.
You would go hungary opening a gym here now.
I pay $39 a month my wife is on my membership for $23
a month and unlimited kids couple for our two sons is $15 amonth.
I always wanted to own a gym, but now you can't make any money
in this city.

That is another thing Slacker hasn't thought about.  If there is a market one of the big boys will come to town.  And then what.  He will be out of business in no time.  They will come in with a facility 10 times his size for half the cost and 100 times better equipment.  But then again he is smart enough to know this ::)
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 27, 2010, 05:44:28 PM
Coach those are you fees for personal training right.  Those are not you gym fees.  Unless that includes the personal training.

Yes, but even when we open the gym we will keep the fee's the same.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 05:49:53 PM
To be fair, I get minimum $420 per month on a 12 month contract. We do 3 month and 12 month contracts.
most of the people who have replied here are just ignorant.  Thanks for your help JME
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 27, 2010, 05:53:02 PM
most of the people who have replied here are just ignorant.  Thanks for your help JME

On the other side of that slacker, quite a few successful gym owners are posting in this thread. My gym happends to have a totally different set up  and BUSINESS PLAN than a gym open to the public.

If you're not bullshitting about opening a gym, I would listen to these people.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 06:07:06 PM
That is another thing Slacker hasn't thought about.  If there is a market one of the big boys will come to town.  And then what.  He will be out of business in no time.  They will come in with a facility 10 times his size for half the cost and 100 times better equipment.  But then again he is smart enough to know this ::)
why are you hating on my plans. They don't affect you. i can sense that your a failure and therefore your focusing your pent up hostility toward me.  As part of my business plan I had to go through the town planning department and there is no land available to build on commercially within my township. Again a 15 km radius. There by guaranteeing me that I will have the largest facility should some one decide to open a gym in the area.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 27, 2010, 06:08:30 PM
On the other side of that slacker, quite a few successful gym owners are posting in this thread. My gym happends to have a totally different set up  and BUSINESS PLAN than a gym open to the public.

If you're not bullshitting about opening a gym, I would listen to these people.
Haae you rotated the tires lately?
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: jwb on January 27, 2010, 06:08:47 PM
My advice would be to get the basics right first and then go from there....

Today that means...

1. a good cardio area (10 treads, 10 crosstrainers, 6 recumbents, 4 upright bikes as a minimum - treads and the life fitness crosstrainers are what people mainly want to use).

2. a good selectorized circuit - leg extension, seated leg press, seated leg curl, ab machine, lat pulldown, supported seated row, seated chest press, shoulder press, bicep, tricep.

3. machines for chicks like hip adduction, hip abduction, glute - these can be a big selling point esp if you will have girls running the place.

4. area for abs and stretching/functional shit like balls etc

5. some freeweights and specialized machines but only once 1,2,3 and 4 are covered - crossovers, pec fly/rear delt, seated calf, 45 leg press, smith, power rack, cable row, heavy lat pulldown etc... the basics, not specific bodybuilding stuff like decline press and t bar rows.

forget running classes (only 5% of people do them) or even having child care to start with but look into 24 hour keytag access since that can be a big selling point too and saves loads on wages esp on weekends...

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 27, 2010, 06:10:31 PM
Haae you rotated the tires lately?

????
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 27, 2010, 06:12:22 PM
????
That big ass tire man you keep posting up...just joking with you
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 06:15:48 PM
On the other side of that slacker, quite a few successful gym owners are posting in this thread. My gym happends to have a totally different set up  and BUSINESS PLAN than a gym open to the public.

If you're not bullshitting about opening a gym, I would listen to these people.
thanks James. However the gym owners here have been somewhat helpful. However there are quite a few idiots that know very little about the industry. And it blows my mind that people who apparently work out daily and live a healthy lifestyle keep telling me that there is no room for profit in this industry
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 06:21:41 PM
My advice would be to get the basics right first and then go from there....

Today that means...

1. a good cardio area (10 treads, 10 crosstrainers, 6 recumbents, 4 upright bikes as a minimum - treads and the life fitness crosstrainers are what people mainly want to use).

2. a good selectorized circuit - leg extension, seated leg press, seated leg curl, ab machine, lat pulldown, supported seated row, seated chest press, shoulder press, bicep, tricep.

3. machines for chicks like hip adduction, hip abduction, glute - these can be a big selling point esp if you will have girls running the place.

4. area for abs and stretching/functional shit like balls etc

5. some freeweights and specialized machines but only once 1,2,3 and 4 are covered - crossovers, pec fly/rear delt, seated calf, 45 leg press, smith, power rack, cable row, heavy lat pulldown etc... the basics, not specific bodybuilding stuff like decline press and t bar rows.

forget running classes (only 5% of people do them) or even having child care to start with but look into 24 hour keytag access since that can be a big selling point too and saves loads on wages esp on weekends...


thank you that was most informative. I am looking into the keytag system and the cost of caging in the supp counter.   I know there are alot of haters here however I have done my research.  There has been a female only gym in town for 15 years and they are closing the doors in april.  I will be open  by then and will offer the woman from that club a reduced rate. 15% off maybe.   
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 27, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
Shit! Gyms have become so complicated now. When I first trained at a commercial gym it was owned by Mits Kawashima. He was a good friend of Arnold and was at his wedding. That place was maybe about twice the size of a two car garage. And I don't remember if it even had a locker room or shower. The second gym was Barlow's gym in Torrance, CA and use to be a two bedroom house that they knocked out a wall and threw in some weights. It had one shower, one toilet and one stationary bike. It was my favorite gym so far in my life.

This is the gym I currently train at. I wonder what business plan they had. It has no shower, no bathroom, no cardio equipment, no air conditioning, no music but that also means no attention whores, no text messaging teens, no whiny soccer moms, and no shadow boxing TapOut bitches -- hell, it doesn't even have walls. You can use chalk, dump the weights if you miss a lift (squats, clean and jerk), and if you ask someone for a spot, even if he is a complete stranger, he is more than happy to assist you (just like the old days).

Juice bar, tanning beds, yoga mats -- um, no thanks.
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Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: jwb on January 27, 2010, 09:30:55 PM
thank you that was most informative. I am looking into the keytag system and the cost of caging in the supp counter.   I know there are alot of haters here however I have done my research.  There has been a female only gym in town for 15 years and they are closing the doors in april.  I will be open  by then and will offer the woman from that club a reduced rate. 15% off maybe.   
keep the meatheads out and you can charge the women more not less because they'll pay it...
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 27, 2010, 09:47:09 PM
keep the meatheads out and you can charge the women more not less because they'll pay it...

IMO, this is the problem. Gym's like that are sending the wrong message about fitness plus there's one on every corner. You keep the "meatheads" out and you might as well be another Planet fitness. We took the opposite approach with our clientele and when we open our gym. We have a process that we interview the potential client before they sign up. We WILL NOT just take anyone ho come through our doors unless they are willing to meet our criteria. If they cannot, we can't help them.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 09:48:56 PM
IMO, this is the problem. Gym's like that are sending the wrong message about fitness plus there's one on every corner. You keep the "meatheads" out and you might as well be another Planet fitness. We took the opposite approach with our clientele and when we open our gym. We have a process that we interview the potential client before they sign up. We WILL NOT just take anyone ho come through our doors unless they are willing to meet our criteria. If they cannot, we can't help them.
I wish I could be that picky but I cant afford to lose anyone. Once I establish a good client base I will sort out the trash
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: jwb on January 27, 2010, 09:56:06 PM
meathead doesn't have to equal a bodybuilder coach...

good bber gets his work done without fuss and goes home to grow...

the thing that kills gyms is the guys who train in packs, take 20mins to get through one machine, scream even though they aren't training correctly, creep out the women...

slacker, running a gym is like running a niteclub in many ways... some people you need to not let join for your own good because their attitude wrecks the experience for everyone else.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 09:57:28 PM
why are you hating on my plans. They don't affect you. i can sense that your a failure and therefore your focusing your pent up hostility toward me.  As part of my business plan I had to go through the town planning department and there is no land available to build on commercially within my township. Again a 15 km radius. There by guaranteeing me that I will have the largest facility should some one decide to open a gym in the area.

I am not hating on your plans.  I love it when someone opens a gym.  But, you came on here wanting answers I gave answer and I guarantee you gave you things you have no idea about.  Failure, most would consider I am far from that.  I have been doing this since around 1980.  Please tell me how long you have been in the industry.  I must know something in order to get the best in the industry to come out of retirement to be my partners or the senior analyst at one of the largest hedge funds in the world to be a partner and handle all the financial matters.  I must know something regardless of my failures.  People like you try to open gyms because they think since they had other business's they can run a gym.  Nearly everyone of them end up closing in a year or so.  You can have all the money you say you have but you don't come close to people I know who have way more money who tried to open a gym and they fail.  And they knew when to quit.  You sound like you don't.  Like you said it is none of my business but if you are going to come on here for suggestions learn to take the good with the bad.  Good luck cause you will need a ton of it.  Now go out there and prove me wrong
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 27, 2010, 10:02:10 PM
I wish I could be that picky but I cant afford to lose anyone. Once I establish a good client base I will sort out the trash

This is why I say our business plan is different. This is the intro to every agreement potential clients or members get.....


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Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 10:17:09 PM
I am not hating on your plans.  I love it when someone opens a gym.  But, you came on here wanting answers I gave answer and I guarantee you gave you things you have no idea about.  Failure, most would consider I am far from that.  I have been doing this since around 1980.  Please tell me how long you have been in the industry.  I must know something in order to get the best in the industry to come out of retirement to be my partners or the senior analyst at one of the largest hedge funds in the world to be a partner and handle all the financial matters.  I must know something regardless of my failures.  People like you try to open gyms because they think since they had other business's they can run a gym.  Nearly everyone of them end up closing in a year or so.  You can have all the money you say you have but you don't come close to people I know who have way more money who tried to open a gym and they fail.  And they knew when to quit.  You sound like you don't.  Like you said it is none of my business but if you are going to come on here for suggestions learn to take the good with the bad.  Good luck cause you will need a ton of it.  Now go out there and prove me wrong
thank you. Now let me as you this. What do you think about 2 for 1 memberships as agrand opening special
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: jwb on January 27, 2010, 10:34:45 PM
thank you. Now let me as you this. What do you think about 2 for 1 memberships as agrand opening special
most places run a presale special with a lower monthly rate...

depends upon the town I know places where, because so many gyms have come and gone and ripped people off, you couldn't run a presale and you couldn't sell advance m'ships only debits because the people wouldn't fork it out... every market is different.

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 10:39:52 PM
most places run a presale special with a lower monthly rate...

depends upon the town I know places where, because so many gyms have come and gone and ripped people off, you couldn't run a presale and you couldn't sell advance m'ships only debits because the people wouldn't fork it out... every market is different.


I own the town convenience store and a major construction company so everyone knows me and my family.  I dont think trust will be an issue.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 11:01:23 PM
thank you. Now let me as you this. What do you think about 2 for 1 memberships as agrand opening special

Good.  Anything to get more members in.  I think you said you were opening in April.  The norm is to have about a three month Pre-Sale period.  This way when you open the doors you have an income and members.  This is where you need to be creative.  Have a time frame for different levels of joining.  Say for the first month if you join it will be a two for one.  The second month it can be one person join and the second joins for half price.  third month if you join you get three additional months for free.  When you get into the wheeling and dealing cause it will happen don't reduce the price but instead give them some extra months.  Give out discount coupons to everyone who joins.  Maybe a 50% off discount for anything at the Juice Bar or Pro Shop.  Maybe at the start eevryone who joins gets a free t-shirt.  T-shirts are a great way to market and get free advertising and have your member help you.

Are you going to have 3 month memberships available or corporate and family plans.  You offer the HR person at a company a free membership and may their family if they get you a minimum number of people to join.  If a company comes in with 10 people then there needs to be some kind of great discount.  You have to have a VIP, student, military and senior plans.  what is your Processing and Enrollment Fee going to be.  How is your Personal Training going to be structured.  PT is the #1 revenue generator other than membership dues.

Are you buying or leasing the equipment.  You said in April opening, have you ordered your equipment yet.  It will take 30 to 60 days and sometimes longer depending on how busy the company is. Maybe since you are opening a small place you should consider buying from a company like Global Fitness.  they sell used equipment and refurbish it like new.  Comes with a warranty and the owner is pretty cool.  You can save 50% or more on costs.  you probably won't be buying much so getting a good discount from a company may be hard.

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 27, 2010, 11:05:22 PM
In most states I think it is law that a gym must place all pre-sale membership revenue in an escrow account and will not be released till the doors are open. It is to protect the consumer.  Pre-sales are very important.  I also gives you an idea exactly how serious people are to join.  It also gives you a nice bank when you open.  If your goal is to have 1000 members by year end 2 then you should shoot for at least 300 during pre sales
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 27, 2010, 11:56:28 PM
exactly   thats what I was thinking   thanks for all your help
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 01:48:11 PM
exactly   thats what I was thinking   thanks for all your help

Hey bitch boy, you're a millionaire, right? What do you care what anybody says. This is just going to be your own personal gym that you want to share with the public.

You're a delusional little pussy, a liar and a fraud.
I am 29 years old and I am considering doing a cycle or 2  this is only for myself not competing.  I am 6.2 242 lbs close to 25%bf currently. I will be bumping up my cardio after Christmas but right now I'm building mass. What would you recommend for me.  I do not want to say that money is no object but i don't want to spend a tonne on juice. What should I take that is relatively safe. I'm not looking for long term side effects.  I have been in the gym for awhile and I have cycled before but I do believe I'm forgotten more than I know now.  Please help only constructive posts please
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 28, 2010, 01:51:50 PM
Hey bitch boy, you're a millionaire, right? What do you care what anybody says. This is just going to be your own personal gym that you want to share with the public.

You're a delusional little pussy, a liar and a fraud.

*snap*  ;D
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 01:53:11 PM
Hey bitch boy, you're a millionaire, right? What do you care what anybody says. This is just going to be your own personal gym that you want to share with the public.

You're a delusional little pussy, a liar and a fraud.
what would you point be
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 02:06:56 PM
what would you point be

For someone who made a million bucks at 25 yo you'd think you would be smart enough to figure it out.

Hey Fatman, before you even think about starting your own business maybe you should learn some self-discipline instead. Get my point, pussy?
not anymore   Ive been so stressed ive done nothing but eat get fat and complain about it.   Its been the better part of a year since i lifted anything other than the fork

Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 02:20:53 PM
For someone who made a million bucks at 25 yo you'd think you would be smart enough to figure it out.

Hey Fatman, before you even think about starting your own business maybe you should learn some self-discipline instead. Get my point, pussy?

So your talking about a post I made 4 years ago while I was going through a rough patch in my life.  you truly are pathetic. Spending your day going through all my old posts. I won you bitch. I am in your head
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 02:24:23 PM
So your talking about a post I made 4 years ago while I was going through a rough patch in my life.  you truly are pathetic. Spending your day going through all my old posts. I won you bitch. I am in your head

And you're claiming anything has changed? You're a fat pig and if you weren't, as conceited and narcissistic as you are, you'd be posting pics all over the place.

You're a delusional, lying, fraud and phony. You are truly the pathetic one my little bitchy fag.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 02:26:36 PM
And you're claiming anything has changed? You're a fat pig and if you weren't, as conceited and narcissistic as you are, you'd be posting pics all over the place.

You're a delusional, lying, fraud and phony. You are truly the pathetic one my little bitchy fag.
No if I was a littel girl like you I would feel the need to post pictures to get your approval.  YOur a sore excuse for a man. Ill bet good money your mother was a whore. Your father was an abusive drunk and you have spent the majority of your life seeking the approval of people who really dont give  fuck about you
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
So your talking about a post I made 4 years ago while I was going through a rough patch in my life.  you truly are pathetic. Spending your day going through all my old posts. I won you bitch. I am in your head

BTW your fatness, that was 2.5 years ago not 4 years ago. Not only can't you spell but you can't count either. Millionaire, huh?
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: hazbin on January 28, 2010, 02:27:28 PM
you know if Slacker is truthful, ( and that's not for me to decide)  if he can start a business that doesn't really pay himself but employs the people close to himself;  well that is pretty noble.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 02:27:51 PM
No if I was a littel #### like you I would feel the need to post pictures to get your approval.  YOur a sore excuse for a man. Ill bet good money your mother was a whore. Your father was an abusive drunk and you have spent the majority of your life seeking the approval of people who really dont give  fuck about you

I keep my word. You know nothing about being a man.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: hazbin on January 28, 2010, 02:30:18 PM
I keep my word. You know nothing about being a man.

another thing, (i'm not jumping sides, just stating facts)  i would rather be a bum in Hawaii  (not saying you are Pell, you have my respect and envy) than successful in this ice-age of Canada.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 02:36:05 PM
you know if Slacker is truthful, ( and that's not for me to decide)  if he can start a business that doesn't really pay himself but employs the people close to himself;  well that is pretty noble.
And that is my plan.  Family business's are few and far between and this will allow me the freedom I want down the road to spend lots of time with my own children and still bring in a passive residual income.  I have been in construction my whole life. "uncles business" and after leaving the force I wanted to do things my way. And so I did.   I have no regrets.    Its still makes me laugh that everyone here are so sure my gym will not be successful and yet everyone here frequents a gym. I hope
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 02:37:51 PM
another thing, (i'm not jumping sides, just stating facts)  i would rather be a bum in Hawaii  (not saying you are Pell, you have my respect and envy) than successful in this ice-age of Canada.
ok you raise a valid point. 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on January 28, 2010, 02:38:18 PM
And that is my plan.  Family business's are few and far between and this will allow me the freedom I want down the road to spend lots of time with my own children and still bring in a passive residual income.  I have been in construction my whole life. "uncles business" and after leaving the force I wanted to do things my way. And so I did.   I have no regrets.    Its still makes me laugh that everyone here are so sure my gym will not be successful and yet everyone here frequents a gym. I hope
No one is saying your gym won't be successful, most knowledgeable people here are just saying that you are underestimating the cost and work involved.
It would be great if you are telling the truth and succeed.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: odilly on January 28, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
you know if Slacker is truthful, ( and that's not for me to decide)  if he can start a business that doesn't really pay himself but employs the people close to himself;  well that is pretty noble.


are you excited for your trip to moosejaw yet?? all expense paid.....maybe first class greyhound hmmmmm!!!!!!!! excited now???
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 02:55:35 PM

are you excited for your trip to moosejaw yet?? all expense paid.....maybe first class greyhound hmmmmm!!!!!!!! excited now???
I dont live in moose jaw but your still funny
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: hazbin on January 28, 2010, 04:06:34 PM

are you excited for your trip to moosejaw yet?? all expense paid.....maybe first class greyhound hmmmmm!!!!!!!! excited now???

i thought i saw something about moosejaw? what's up with that?  i live a couple hours from there but have never been there!
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Natural Man on January 28, 2010, 04:13:26 PM
you know if Slacker is truthful, ( and that's not for me to decide)  if he can start a business that doesn't really pay himself but employs the people close to himself;  well that is pretty noble.
that or it's pure lies and the guy is just a mental case making up diff bullshits stories everyday of the week.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 04:14:38 PM
that or it's pure lies and the guy is just a mental case making up diff bullshits stories everyday of the week.
again your here under a gimmick account your word is worth nothing
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: Natural Man on January 28, 2010, 04:15:53 PM
again your here under a gimmick account your word is worth nothing

weak come back.

(http://blog101.silverstonestudycentre.org/files/2008/02/crying-baby-boy_01.JPG)
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 04:19:49 PM
yeah but its the truth
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: tbombz on January 28, 2010, 04:33:12 PM
This idiot made his first million by the age of 25.   I own the building and plan on turning it into a gym for myself . So I thought why not open it to the general public this way I can justify all the expenses and write them off.     I make enough annually to where I could write this off for the rest of my life as a business loss.      This isn't the first time I have opened a business.  I have polled the community via in store questionnaire and have over 600 clients waiting to register for membership.    I have done my research and value your input.  
even if this is all made up mcmannus still got owned
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 05:17:05 PM
even if this is all made up mcmannus still got owned
ok
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 28, 2010, 09:10:38 PM
that or it's pure lies and the guy is just a mental case making up diff bullshits stories everyday of the week.

He is obviously just a guy who is fucking around.  Alot like Goodrum but sounds white.  Same mental capacity though.  There is just no way he is real.  I just love how he brgas so much yet is afraid to post a photo and tell us his name.  Yet he said there are videos of him all over YouTube.  He is either skinny or fat and for certain ugly as hell.  If he was so rich and powerful like he said he would have no problem posting a photo.  What could it hurt.  He is the boss of his company, he has enough money to open a gym that will not make it and he is some bigtime fighter.  The only reason why he won't is because he is scared and knows he will be laughed off of Getbig
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
He is obviously just a guy who is fucking around.  Alot like Goodrum but sounds white.  Same mental capacity though.  There is just no way he is real.  I just love how he brgas so much yet is afraid to post a photo and tell us his name.  Yet he said there are videos of him all over YouTube.  He is either skinny or fat and for certain ugly as hell.  If he was so rich and powerful like he said he would have no problem posting a photo.  What could it hurt.  He is the boss of his company, he has enough money to open a gym that will not make it and he is some bigtime fighter.  The only reason why he won't is because he is scared and knows he will be laughed off of Getbig

This might answer your question.

I am 29 years old and I am considering doing a cycle or 2  this is only for myself not competing.  I am 6.2 242 lbs close to 25%bf currently. I will be bumping up my cardio after Christmas but right now I'm building mass. What would you recommend for me.  I do not want to say that money is no object but i don't want to spend a tonne on juice. What should I take that is relatively safe. I'm not looking for long term side effects.  I have been in the gym for awhile and I have cycled before but I do believe I'm forgotten more than I know now.  Please help only constructive posts please

Some updates. Since I made this thread back in august ive actually gained weight im back up to 285 I dont know what the fuck Im doing cant seem to focus and Ive been plagued with family trouble. Im setting up a home gym in my basement complete with treadmills and rowing machines.  Im still hoping to get down to 240@10%  wish me luck

I havent seen my abs in along while and I made a bet that i could get back into the same shape I was 2 years ago.   I need help

Ive been so stressed ive done nothing but eat get fat and complain about it.   Its been the better part of a year since i lifted anything other than the fork
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 09:24:49 PM
you still make no sense what is your point. Your proving that I have always been honest about my weight and my size and my want to try a cycle. Your posting comments I made over 4 years ago.  please explain
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 09:30:40 PM
you still make no sense what is your point. Your proving that I have always been honest about my weight and my size and my want to try a cycle. Your posting comments I made over 4 years ago.  please explain

You're whining again. Very unbecoming of a warrior like yourself that feels worthy to dis BJ Penn. Man, you're really owning me.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: StAge ThRee on January 28, 2010, 09:32:39 PM
I am new here so forgive me for asking.  How does your doubting this guy make what he is saying any less true.  I mean you cant prove it one way or the other and your sounding like a bitter and jealous old man. I dont care for him so I dont respond.  Why do you continue to waste you time
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 09:35:14 PM
there is no reasoning with this idiot he is delusional.  Save your breathe kid 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 28, 2010, 10:03:25 PM
I am new here so forgive me for asking.  How does your doubting this guy make what he is saying any less true.  I mean you cant prove it one way or the other and your sounding like a bitter and jealous old man. I dont care for him so I dont respond.  Why do you continue to waste you time

What time is wasted.  A few minutes of typing and exposing a guy who lies with every breath.  Are you related somehow
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: StAge ThRee on January 28, 2010, 10:09:41 PM
What time is wasted.  A few minutes of typing and exposing a guy who lies with every breath.  Are you related somehow
I just dont see how you exposed anything.  I mean jsut because you call him a liar doesn't make it any less true. 
If I doubt your statements it woudln't make it any less true either.  If you have some proof I would like to see it.
I am new here so I keep clicking on the new post feature and its been about slackr all day and night.   I dont understand. if he lies ignore him. 
My 2 cents
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 10:16:18 PM
he doesnt have a point. All he has is spare time and a library pass
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 28, 2010, 10:42:55 PM
even if this is all made up mcmannus still got owned

And you're still an all drugs teenage bodybuilding dipshit.  homo! 
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 10:45:28 PM
And you're still an all drugs teenage bodybuilding dipshit.  homo! 
ok you got me i surrender
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: MuscleMcMannus on January 28, 2010, 10:52:22 PM
ok you got me i surrender

I was talking to tbombz.  But since you opened your mouth to me why the hell are you still whining on getbig about your fucking gym?  Obviously you already know everything and besides what the hell does gym fees in the US have fuck all to do with a gym in Canada?   ::)
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 11:01:01 PM
I just dont see how you exposed anything.  I mean jsut because you call him a liar doesn't make it any less true. 
If I doubt your statements it woudln't make it any less true either.  If you have some proof I would like to see it.
I am new here so I keep clicking on the new post feature and its been about slackr all day and night.   I dont understand. if he lies ignore him. 
My 2 cents

It's what we do to liars, phonies and frauds. They are soon weeded out and flamed.
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: StAge ThRee on January 28, 2010, 11:02:57 PM
It's what we do to liars, phonies and frauds. They are soon weeded out and flamed.
what if your wrong
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: slacker on January 28, 2010, 11:05:11 PM
what if your wrong
he doesnt believe me because he comes from a long list of failures and alcoholics
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2010, 11:05:33 PM
what if your wrong

Stick around newb. We're never wrong. One case in point, Slacker has posted numerous pictures of different men claiming that it is him. This is one thread for example.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=259617.msg3651341#msg3651341
Title: Re: Gym Fees - what would you pay a year?
Post by: StAge ThRee on January 28, 2010, 11:07:41 PM
but he has said 10 times that he wont post a picture so you expecting a picture over and over makes you a fool
Title: Re: GYM FEES
Post by: noworries on January 29, 2010, 04:11:57 AM
I was talking to tbombz.  But since you opened your mouth to me why the hell are you still whining on getbig about your fucking gym?  Obviously you already know everything and besides what the hell does gym fees in the US have fuck all to do with a gym in Canada?   ::)

Hey there tough guy.  You and Slacker should get together on Skype and beat the shit out of each internet style.  You're an old fat fuck with a big mouth behind a keyboard.  It would be perfect for you.  See being a pussy and gay your whole life and getting the shit beat out of you  has come full circle.  Now you can pretend to be a real man and hide behind the computer.  Be sure to record and post it up though
Title: Re: Gym Fees - what would you pay a year?
Post by: regmac on January 29, 2010, 11:43:22 AM
I am looking into opening a gym in my hometown.  There is a real need for a facility with fitness and weight training in house.   I am looking at making tanning beds free as part of the package.  There will be a supplement shop on the premises and a fruit/beverage bar.  I will have a lounge and yoga/dance/ area.  It needs to suite all walks of life.  I will of course make sure the lifting section is fully loaded for the heavy lifters.

So my question is this

What do you pay now for your yearly memberships??

What would you recommend or not recommend ??

Thanks
Rick Steiner will be your only member there.