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I do not want to believe this is true, but I have to, as I read just a month or so ago how Israelis were stealing organs from Palestinians shot in conflict, from Yemeni children kidnapped from Yemen, from people in India who were being offered money(small amounts) to sell their kidneys as well as in other nations like China, america and South America. This is EVIL taken to a new level. TO go into a country devastated by an earthquake and start this process is beyond imagination. I want to say it is not true, but Israelis were some of the first to get to Haiti right away with all of the necessary medical supplies, personnel and equipment.....
Israeli Organ Stealing - Harvesting Haitian Body Parts?
By Stephen Lendman
1-26-10
"Israel is at the top," she states. "It has tentacles reaching out worldwide. (It has) a pyramid system at work that's awesome....they have brokers everywhere, bank accounts everywhere; they've got recruiters, they've got translators, they've got travel agents who set up the visas." -- Nancy Scheper-Hughes. UC Berkeley Professor of Medical Anthropology
On January 15, Haaretz reported that:
"The Israel Defense Forces' aid mission to Haiti left Israel overnight (January 14) with equipment for setting up an emergency field hospital. Around 220 soldiers and officers (were) in the delegation, including 120 medical staff (to) operate the hospital in the Haitian capital, Port-au-Prince."
According to Israel's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, it includes "40 doctors, 25 nurses, paramedics, a pharmacy, a children's ward, a radiology department, an intensive care unit, an internal department and a maternity ward (able to) treat approximately 500 patients each day," including in two surgery rooms.
On January 20, Lebanon's Al-Manar TV reported on the mission, citing a damning You Tube video posted by an American named T. West from a group called AfriSynergy Productions.
"The video presents something to think about while exploiting the horrible tragedy that has befallen Haiti where Israeli occupation soldiers are engaged in organ trafficking."
Israel faced these charges before. In November 2009, Alison Weir's article in the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs headlined, "Israeli Organ Trafficking and Theft: From Moldova to Palestine." She cited an August Donald Bostrom article in Sweden's Aftonbladet suggesting that Israel illicitly removes body parts, including from Palestinians.
She stated:
"....Israeli organ harvesting - sometimes with Israeli governmental funding and the participation of high Israeli officials, prominent Israeli physicians, and Israeli ministries - have been documented for many years. Among the victims have been Palestinians."
Nancy Scheper-Hughes is a UC Berkeley Professor of Medical Anthropology, founder of Organ Watch, author of scholarly books and articles on the subject, and "unflinchingly honest in (citing) the Israeli connection."
"Israel is at the top," she states. "It has tentacles reaching out worldwide. (It has) a pyramid system at work that's awesome....they have brokers everywhere, bank accounts everywhere; they've got recruiters, they've got translators, they've got travel agents who set up the visas."
They pay "the poor and the hungry to slowly dismantle their bodies" or simply take what they want from fresh corpses. Body parts are commodities, to be harvested and sold to the rich, even though organ sales are prohibited in most countries, but not in international law.
Relevant International Law
The UN Convention against Transnational Organized Crime calls organ extraction for profit human exploitation. In 2008, Israel banned the practice, but it persists.
On October 13, 2009 at a UN press conference on the subject, Marja Ruotanen, Director of Cooperation of the Council of Europe, stated:
"We have legislation and definitions covering the trafficking in human beings for the purpose of organ removal, but the study points out that there is a legal vacuum for the traffic in organs, tissues and cells (OTC)."
Human trafficking for any purpose is a crime. Global instruments cover OTC trafficking, but missing are "internationally agreed-upon definitions within an international convention." One is needed that clearly defines the practice, protects donors, but prosecutes brokers, medical staff, and others engaging in it.
Chair of the Department of Medical Ethics of the University of Pennsylvania, Arthur Caplan, and Austria's Public Prosecutor, Carmen Prior, say many nations are taking steps to address the issue, emphasizing that OTC material should only be gotten by "voluntary altruism." In other words, donated, not sold for profit.
Caplan explained that "money for parts" violates "basic human dignity and medical ethics." It also exploits the poor, and they stay poor after the sale. Also, their organ quality is usually low, and procedures used to extract them often harm buyers and sellers.
UN Secretary-General Special Adviser on Gender Issues and Advancement of Women, Rachael Mayanja, didn't predict when the world body will begin work on a convention, but she hoped it would be soon. Discussions to this point are "just the beginning," she said, "and it gives us an impetus to go forward."
Kawther Salam - "The Body Snatchers of Israel"
Salam is a West Bank-based Palestinian journalist, active in reporting on human rights abuses by the Israeli military (IDF). In 2003, she was one of 28 writers in 13 countries to receive a Hellman/Hammett Grant from Human Rights Watch "in recognition of (her) courage in the face of political persecution."
On August 24, 2009, her above titled article presented what she "witnessed, saw, observed and heard during (her) 22 years of journalistic work under the Israeli military occupation in the West Bank and Gaza."
She states that from the early 1970s, the IDF kept bodies of Palestinians they killed, then later buried them in secret, numbered graves. In other cases, Israel's civil administration and military commanders returned corpses to families on condition they be buried immediately, late at night, for "security reasons."
They followed funeral processions in "armored grey cars," monitoring them through burial. Why so, asked Salam? "If the burial is normal, and the organs of the victims were not stolen, then why should they be buried in the dark of the night? The families of the victims all knew that they were receiving empty bodies, filled with cotton, to be buried in the middle of the night."
Salam said she "personally....witness(ed) Israeli soldiers and military vehicles kidnapping the bodies of dead Palestinians from (hospital) emergency rooms. In other cases, (she) saw the soldiers following the Palestinians to the cemetery, to steal the body from the family before burial. This practice became so widespread that many people started carrying the bodies of the murdered to be buried at home, in the garden, under the house or under trees, instead of waiting for the ambulance to take them to the hospital."
She said "everybody in Palestine" knows that Israel steals bodies for their organs. It was common IDF practice to "kidnap" Palestinians from emergency rooms in Hebron, Nablus, Ramallah, Jenin, and most everywhere throughout Occupied Palestine, then transfer them to an Israeli hospital.
Her article lists names of IDF commanders and civil administration officials involved in the practice. "Everybody knew" they were doing it, yet their families were told sincere efforts were made "to release the bodies of their relatives from the military headquarters," calling it a favor, when, in fact, their organs were stolen.
Perhaps "thousands of bodies and even people known to have been alive were transferred to the Abu Kabir" Forensic Institute near Tel Aviv, Israel's only autopsy facility involved in organ trafficking, a matter that became a scandal inside the country. Its director, Dr. Yehuda Hiss, admitted doing it, never was held accountable, and until recently remained the institute's chief pathologist.
In 2002 and 2005, he was investigated over the large scale theft of body parts, the practice Yediot Aharonot journalists broke, saying he had "price listings" for organs sold to universities and medical schools.
On January 4, 2002, Israel National News.com headlined, "Abu Kabir Operating Organ Warehouse," saying Hiss was:
"accused of a long list of charges from inappropriate behavior as a medical professional to criminal acts such as the illegal sale of and dealings in organs and body parts, removing organs from deceased persons without consent, and misrepresenting organs in returned bodies."
Other allegations were that:
"in some cases (organs he took without consent were stuffed with) toilet paper rolls and metallic rods in their place to fill the voids and hide the theft of the organs. A court-ordered search of the institute revealed large supplies of stored organs illegally taken from bodies," thousands taken without permission.
During the first Intifada and other times, Salam said she "personally witnessed how the Israeli military were kidnapping Palestinian bodies and gravely injured people from the emergency room of Princess Alia hospital in Hebron (and dead bodies from) Al-Ahli hospital." The area was declared a military zone, the hospitals surrounded and invaded, and no one was allowed to move inside them.
Israeli organ harvesting is a longstanding practice, well known by "most if not all the Israeli medical establishment (who) keep silent because they either get money, or they are rewarded in other ways...."
Jerusalem Center for Democracy and Human Rights Director, Salim Khalleh, said JDCHR documented 270 cases of "reserved" Palestinian bodies, buried in numbered graves in secret cemeteries, or in numbered compartments of cooling facilities.
According to the Palestinian National Authority (PA) Director of the Department of Statistics, Abed Al-Naser Ferwana, many Palestinians were murdered in detention during the second Intifada, their bodies kept in secret Israeli cemeteries, some released weeks later. He calls this more proof that their organs were harvested illegally.
Israeli "Transplant Tourism"
Rich Israelis take advantage, availing themselves of what's called "transplant tourism," traveling wherever a needed organ can be found, sometimes from fresh corpses, usually from the desperately poor.
The Israeli government acts as facilitator, providing subsidies of up to $80,000 for "transplant holidays." According to Scheper-Hughes, Israeli officials exhibit "amazing tolerance....toward outlawed 'transplant tourism.' "
She said the Israeli Ministry of Defense is involved in a practice by which "bodies are broken, dismembered, fragmented, transported, processed, and sold in the interests of a more socially advantaged population....," Israel engaging in more of this globally than any other nation.
Its medical teams apparently are doing it in Haiti, exploiting fresh corpses and the living. The Manar TV cited You Tube said "there are people operating in Haiti who do not have a conscience and are members of the search and rescue teams, including the Israeli occupation forces," far from home harvesting Haitian organs, and the pickings are plentiful.
Apparently, the publicity about providing humanitarian aid is cover for this illicit operation, another crime against humanity among Israel's growing list, matched and exceeded by its Washington benefactor with generations more practice.
Stephen Lendman is a Research Associate of the Centre for Research on Globalization. He lives in Chicago and can be reached at lendmanstephen@sbcglobal.net.
Also visit his blog site at sjlendman.blogspot.com and listen to the Lendman News Hour on RepublicBroadcasting.org Monday - Friday at 10AM US Central time for cutting-edge discussions with distinguished guests on world and national issues. All programs are archived for easy listening.
http://republicbroadcasting.org/Lendman
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I really don't believe it.
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I really don't believe it.
I don't want to either, but Israelis have been busted numerous times engaging in this heinous activity with Palestinians, Yemeni and Indians (of India)..... so why should I not believe this? Their RUSH to Haiti explains a lot..
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Organ trade is a huge business.
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90% of Samson's threads are baseless, (so I'll assume this one is) isn't that reason enough to ban him from this board? It's not really annoying, but it is a waste of bandwidth and everyone's time.
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90% of Samson's threads are baseless, (so I'll assume this one is) isn't that reason enough to ban him from this board? It's not really annoying, but it is a waste of bandwidth and everyone's time.
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as long as they're not breaking the laws of physics there could be something to it :P
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90% of Samson's threads are baseless, (so I'll assume this one is) isn't that reason enough to ban him from this board? It's not really annoying, but it is a waste of bandwidth and everyone's time.
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I heard Samson and Jagaurenterprises were the same person, is this true?
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I heard Samson and Jagaurenterprises were the same person, is this true?
That's what I was told.... :P
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That's what I was told.... :P
Interesting. I heard they had the same IP address, I could be wrong though ;D
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Interesting. I heard they had the same IP address, I could be wrong though ;D
That's also what I was told... :)
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SAMSON do u understand that this is all bullshit...somebody somewhere saw something. PIcs, video, proof..anything?
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If you admit that you don't know if its true or not then why did you post it?
Some more cheap antisemitic propaganda
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90% of Samson's threads are baseless, (so I'll assume this one is) isn't that reason enough to ban him from this board? It's not really annoying, but it is a waste of bandwidth and everyone's time.
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It's funny that Hugo deletes every single post of mine that's not factual or sourced and yet this guy's idiotic threads get a free pass. He's a bigger troll than I am.
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I could see if they were accused harvesting human parts but haitians?Come on.
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90% of Samson's threads are baseless, (so I'll assume this one is) isn't that reason enough to ban him from this board? It's not really annoying, but it is a waste of bandwidth and everyone's time.
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Baseless and anti Semitic too. Samson blames the Jews for all of the world's problems.
The last time Samson posted about Israel harvesting Palestinian organs, I looked into it and it turned out to be one Israeli doctor who was arrested for illegally harvesting organs from both Palestinians and Israelis too. ::)
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Baseless and anti Semitic too. Samson blames the Jews for all of the world's problems.
The last time Samson posted about Israel harvesting Palestinian organs, I looked into it and it turned out to be one Israeli doctor who was arrested for illegally harvesting organs from both Palestinians and Israelis too. ::)
You obviously didn't look into it at all ass, because it has been something going on for YEARS involving many israeli doctors and institutions in israhell, India, america, Yemen, Brazil and many other nations. You must be a Joo offering so much defense for their wrongs. And BTW whether there was one jew turd or two thousand does not excuse it as you are implying in your remark. To think that some scum would remove organs from a person/people who may or may not be dead and sell them for hundreds of thousands of dollars each all for the sake of financial gain is beyond comprehension....
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You obviously didn't look into it at all ass, because it has been something going on for YEARS involving many israeli doctors and institutions in israhell, India, america, Yemen, Brazil and many other nations. You must be a Joo offering so much defense for their wrongs. And BTW whether there was one jew turd or two thousand does not excuse it as you are implying in your remark. To think that some scum would remove organs from a person/people who may or may not be dead and sell them for hundreds of thousands of dollars each all for the sake of financial gain is beyond comprehension....
There's only been one other poster on here that refers to them as "Joo". Thanks for outing yourself. How's "Portugal" been?
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Considering the high rate of disease by the population of Haiti, I would think they would try harvesting somewhere else.
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You obviously didn't look into it at all ass, because it has been something going on for YEARS involving many israeli doctors and institutions in israhell, India, america, Yemen, Brazil and many other nations. You must be a Joo offering so much defense for their wrongs. And BTW whether there was one jew turd or two thousand does not excuse it as you are implying in your remark. To think that some scum would remove organs from a person/people who may or may not be dead and sell them for hundreds of thousands of dollars each all for the sake of financial gain is beyond comprehension....
Yes, I did look into the one article that you posted at the time. You were blaming all of Israel for this one corrupt doctor who was illegally harvesting organs from both Palestinians and Israelis too.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=311763.msg4449626#msg4449626
And no, I am neither a Jew nor a Joo. I am Venezuelan.
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Yes, I did look into the one article that you posted at the time. You were blaming all of Israel for this one corrupt doctor who was illegally harvesting organs from both Palestinians and Israelis too.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=311763.msg4449626#msg4449626
And no, I am neither a Jew nor a Joo. I am Venezuelan.
Samson is a copy/pasting propaganda machine. I'm willing to bet he doesn't even read 75% of what he posts. Just sees the article title and fires away. Remember that this is the same moron who doesn't understand the laws of physics.
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You obviously didn't look into it at all ass, because it has been something going on for YEARS involving many israeli doctors and institutions in israhell, India, america, Yemen, Brazil and many other nations. You must be a Joo offering so much defense for their wrongs. And BTW whether there was one jew turd or two thousand does not excuse it as you are implying in your remark. To think that some scum would remove organs from a person/people who may or may not be dead and sell them for hundreds of thousands of dollars each all for the sake of financial gain is beyond comprehension....
So no matter what you love to hate them.
That is called antisemitism ............... you know prejudice
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So no matter what you love to hate them.
That is called antisemitism ............... you know prejudice
THe topic of the post is Israelis stealing internal organs from Haitians...your a joo an dit is hard for you to keep focused...too much time with your hand out looking to steal and grab.
Now to address your concerns:
Had you had a TINY bit of intelligence you would realize that the word is SHEMITE not semite and SHEMITES encompasses many different races of people. As all have descended from the line of Abraham who are of the line of Shem. so calling someone antisemite (SHEMITE) asshole is like saying someone hates the ENTIRE WORLD/ANTI WORLD.
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Yes, I did look into the one article that you posted at the time. You were blaming all of Israel for this one corrupt doctor who was illegally harvesting organs from both Palestinians and Israelis too.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=311763.msg4449626#msg4449626
And no, I am neither a Jew nor a Joo. I am Venezuelan.
When I say look into a matter I don't mean look ONLY at the GB boards (can you really be this stupid?) I mean Google, Bing, MSN or any other search engine and look the topic up so you can be informed of what is going on in the God forsaken cess pool in the Middle East called israhell.
BTW I did not ask for your nationality I am talking race... and yes you ARE A JOO you can't hide from me.
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It's funny that Hugo deletes every single post of mine that's not factual or sourced and yet this guy's idiotic threads get a free pass. He's a bigger troll than I am.
How come despite your obvious annoyance toward me you continue to TROLL my post and post the same IDIOTIC responses EVERYTIME???? You have issues or something? Fess up what is it? You, Luke, TA and the rest rarely post topics yet you spend all day trolling what I post and adding stupid remarks. Try finding news worthy information and bring it to the attention of all of us. What is happening in your neck of the woods? What have you heard, read or seen that may interest all of us? Provide something other than your senseless opinions on matters you have no knowledge of. Maybe Hugo and others won't spend any time DELETING your simple minded posts.
BTW...How many envelopes have you stuffed and licked shut today?
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90% of Samson's threads are baseless, (so I'll assume this one is) isn't that reason enough to ban him from this board? It's not really annoying, but it is a waste of bandwidth and everyone's time.
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If that was you would have been gone long time ago
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SAMSON do u understand that this is all bullshit...somebody somewhere saw something. PIcs, video, proof..anything?
Being that this was exposed in HAARETZ, London Times, New York Times, LA Times, and quite a few other newspapers I find it quite credible...
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How come despite your obvious annoyance toward me you continue to TROLL my post and post the same IDIOTIC responses EVERYTIME???? You have issues or something? Fess up what is it? You, Luke, TA and the rest rarely post topics yet you spend all day trolling what I post and adding stupid remarks. Try finding news worthy information and bring it to the attention of all of us. What is happening in your neck of the woods? What have you heard, read or seen that may interest all of us? Provide something other than your senseless opinions on matters you have no knowledge of. Maybe Hugo and others won't spend any time DELETING your simple minded posts.
BTW...How many envelopes have you stuffed and licked shut today?
Because I've deemed your idiotic threads worthy of my trolling. Uneducated trash like yourself warrants laughing at.
By the way, how are you doing rewriting the laws of physics? Anything noteworthy yet? Perhaps a Nobel Prize is in your future?
I do find it amusing that Hugo deletes my posts for trolling while 99% of the fictitious, trolling propaganda you post gets left up.
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There's only been one other poster on here that refers to them as "Joo". Thanks for outing yourself. How's "Portugal" been?
the only other person I've seen use Joo is Toxic. You think Samson is Toxic?
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BF, when you become mod of the forum you can decide what's trolling demand that nobody be allowed to post stories like this or other conspiracy related shit. Until then, STFU trollboy. :)
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THe topic of the post is Israelis stealing internal organs from Haitians...your a joo an dit is hard for you to keep focused...too much time with your hand out looking to steal and grab.Now to address your concerns:
Had you had a TINY bit of intelligence you would realize that the word is SHEMITE not semite and SHEMITES encompasses many different races of people. As all have descended from the line of Abraham who are of the line of Shem. so calling someone antisemite (SHEMITE) asshole is like saying someone hates the ENTIRE WORLD/ANTI WORLD.
I am not Jewish.............. out of interest what are you.
But looking at your response once again I see you are antisemetic
Your answers dont make sense and they side track from the issues, it is all just angry, agressive drivel.
You have to have some one to hate for all your problems .............. your nasty >:(
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the only other person I've seen use Joo is Toxic. You think Samson is Toxic?
No, whoever that douche running the account that was supposedly some multi-millionaire that lived in some mountain range in Portugal used it.
BF, when you become mod of the forum you can decide what's trolling demand that nobody be allowed to post stories like this or other conspiracy related shit. Until then, STFU trollboy. :)
It's alright because you're a hypocrite. His agenda falls in line with your own so you let his posts fly. ;)
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I have no idea who you're talking about BF.
I also don't give a rats ass if you think I'm a hypocrite. lol, I'm sure you're jerking off to thinking I care what you think of me haha... sick fuck....
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I have no idea who you're talking about BF.
I also don't give a rats ass if you think I'm a hypocrite. lol, I'm sure you're jerking off to thinking I care what you think of me haha... sick fuck....
I can't remember his name. He was here a few months ago. Melted down every other post. Same posting style as Samson.
But there you go thinking you're a somebody again. ::)
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how the hell did you get me thinking I'm somebody out of what I said? How do you go from me not knowing who you're talking about and not caring if you think I'm a hypocrite to me bragging about being somebody?
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how the hell did you get me thinking I'm somebody out of what I said? How do you go from me not knowing who you're talking about and not caring if you think I'm a hypocrite to me bragging about being somebody?
I should have said I was addressing both parts of your post.
The first line was in reference to you saying you had no idea who I was talking about. The second line was referring to you think that I jerk off to what you say. ::)
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I forget his name but he said he was from the UK..lived whereever and had tranny 3somes with his GF. After that he went away, nobody took hin seriously after the tranny comment.
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When I say look into a matter I don't mean look ONLY at the GB boards (can you really be this stupid?) I mean Google, Bing, MSN or any other search engine and look the topic up so you can be informed of what is going on in the God forsaken cess pool in the Middle East called israhell.
I did not look into it on the GB boards. Did you even follow the link and look? (can you really be this stupid?) Here, I'll just save you the very hard work of clicking on a link:
"Channel 2 reported that the former chief pathologist of Israel, Dr. Yehuda Hiss, had indeed been fired after he was discovered to have harvested organs without permission. In fact, Hiss was an equal-opportunity illegal harvester: he took organs from both Israelis and Palestinians, not directing his illegal activity at any particular ethnic group."
http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/news/archive/2009/12/22/the-blood-libel-that-wasn-t-israel-admits-pathologist-harvested-organs-without-consent.aspx
BTW I did not ask for your nationality I am talking race... and yes you ARE A JOO you can't hide from me.
I am Latino, Hispanic, Venezuelan. How am I a Jew? Why do you hate all Jews so much? And why would an anti-Semite like you pick a name like Samson? Don't you know that Samson is an Israeli judge in the Bible?