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Afghan Men Struggle With Sexual Identity, Study Finds
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/28/afghan-men-struggle-sexual-identity-study-finds/
FOXNews.com
An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it.
As if U.S. troops and diplomats didn't have enough to worry about in trying to understand Afghan culture, a new report suggests an entire region in the country is coping with a sexual identity crisis.
An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it.
The study, obtained by Fox News, found that Pashtun men commonly have sex with other men, admire other men physically, have sexual relationships with boys and shun women both socially and sexually -- yet they completely reject the label of "homosexual." The research was conducted as part of a longstanding effort to better understand Afghan culture and improve Western interaction with the local people.
The research unit, which was attached to a Marine battalion in southern Afghanistan, acknowledged that the behavior of some Afghan men has left Western forces "frequently confused."
The report details the bizarre interactions a U.S. Army medic and her colleagues had with Afghan men in the southern province of Kandahar.
In one instance, a group of local male interpreters had contracted gonorrhea anally but refused to believe they could have contracted it sexually -- "because they were not homosexuals."
Apparently, according to the report, Pashtun men interpret the Islamic prohibition on homosexuality to mean they cannot "love" another man -- but that doesn't mean they can't use men for "sexual gratification."
The group of interpreters who had contracted gonorrhea joked in the camp that they actually got the disease by "mixing green and black tea." But since they refused to heed the medics' warnings, many of them re-contracted the disease after receiving treatment.
The U.S. army medic also told members of the research unit that she and her colleagues had to explain to a local man how to get his wife pregnant.
The report said: "When it was explained to him what was necessary, he reacted with disgust and asked, 'How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean, when one could be with a man, who is clean? Surely this must be wrong.'"
The Pashtun populations are concentrated in the southern and eastern parts of the country. The Human Terrain Team that conducted the research is part of a military effort to learn more about local populations.
The report also detailed a disturbing practice in which older "men of status" keep young boys on hand for sexual relationships. One of the country's favorite sayings, the report said, is "women are for children, boys are for pleasure."
The report concluded that the widespread homosexual behavior stems from several factors, including the "severe segregation" of women in the society and the "prohibitive" cost of marriage.
Though U.S. troops are commonly taught in training for Afghanistan that the "effeminate characteristics" of Pashtun men are "normal" and not an indicator of homosexuality, the report said U.S. forces should not "dismiss" the unique version of homosexuality that is actually practiced in the region "out of desire to avoid western discomfort."
Otherwise, the report said, Westerners could "risk failing to comprehend an essential social force underlying Pashtun culture."
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Afghan Men Struggle With Sexual Identity, Study Finds
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/28/afghan-men-struggle-sexual-identity-study-finds/
FOXNews.com
An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it.
As if U.S. troops and diplomats didn't have enough to worry about in trying to understand Afghan culture, a new report suggests an entire region in the country is coping with a sexual identity crisis.
An unclassified study from a military research unit in southern Afghanistan details how homosexual behavior is unusually common among men in the large ethnic group known as Pashtuns -- though they seem to be in complete denial about it.
The study, obtained by Fox News, found that Pashtun men commonly have sex with other men, admire other men physically, have sexual relationships with boys and shun women both socially and sexually -- yet they completely reject the label of "homosexual." The research was conducted as part of a longstanding effort to better understand Afghan culture and improve Western interaction with the local people.
The research unit, which was attached to a Marine battalion in southern Afghanistan, acknowledged that the behavior of some Afghan men has left Western forces "frequently confused."
The report details the bizarre interactions a U.S. Army medic and her colleagues had with Afghan men in the southern province of Kandahar.
In one instance, a group of local male interpreters had contracted gonorrhea anally but refused to believe they could have contracted it sexually -- "because they were not homosexuals."
Apparently, according to the report, Pashtun men interpret the Islamic prohibition on homosexuality to mean they cannot "love" another man -- but that doesn't mean they can't use men for "sexual gratification."
The group of interpreters who had contracted gonorrhea joked in the camp that they actually got the disease by "mixing green and black tea." But since they refused to heed the medics' warnings, many of them re-contracted the disease after receiving treatment.
The U.S. army medic also told members of the research unit that she and her colleagues had to explain to a local man how to get his wife pregnant.
The report said: "When it was explained to him what was necessary, he reacted with disgust and asked, 'How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean, when one could be with a man, who is clean? Surely this must be wrong.'"
The Pashtun populations are concentrated in the southern and eastern parts of the country. The Human Terrain Team that conducted the research is part of a military effort to learn more about local populations.
The report also detailed a disturbing practice in which older "men of status" keep young boys on hand for sexual relationships. One of the country's favorite sayings, the report said, is "women are for children, boys are for pleasure."
The report concluded that the widespread homosexual behavior stems from several factors, including the "severe segregation" of women in the society and the "prohibitive" cost of marriage.
Though U.S. troops are commonly taught in training for Afghanistan that the "effeminate characteristics" of Pashtun men are "normal" and not an indicator of homosexuality, the report said U.S. forces should not "dismiss" the unique version of homosexuality that is actually practiced in the region "out of desire to avoid western discomfort."
Otherwise, the report said, Westerners could "risk failing to comprehend an essential social force underlying Pashtun culture."
Gee.....all they had to do was come to GB, and follow Team Nasser, to figure this out. :-\
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Gee.....all they had to do was come to GB, and follow Team Nasser, to figure this out. :-\
I firmly believe that his is widespread in most Muslim countries. They segregate women, and rather be around men all the time. I'd rather be balls deep in cooter than in a sauna with other men.
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I firmly believe that his is widespread in most Muslim countries. They segregate women, and rather be around men all the time. I'd rather be balls deep in cooter than in a sauna with other men.
;D
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For real, the keep them covered up, treat them worse than dogs, and rather be in the company of other men, but they want to wait till they die to get 72 virgins. Meanwhile, all those rich dude are either importing or going to western countries and fucking fine women, and 72 was just their quota for last month.
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The U.S. army medic also told members of the research unit that she and her colleagues had to explain to a local man how to get his wife pregnant.
You want me to believe that a grown man, married, didn't know where babies came from. ::) Brutal propaganda. Nice that the tobacco chewers have something to gas about around the silo now.
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don't like the sounds of these here muzzas
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A couple of mates that have been to Afghanistan have told me about the phenomenon known as "Man Love Thursday" and how the local male population take a keen interest in young blonde soldiers.
Also, I remember reading somewherethat when the Taleban were spreading through Afghan Mullah Omar killed a local Warlord for sodomising young boys.
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the world would be a better place without muslims
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Oh brother this will be a war when Team Nasser arrives. Oh wait why do they treat the women so bad?
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bullshit propaganda
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I believe FOX NEWS could convince the world that Mustafa Mohammad never touched a weight in his life.
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Yeah..all bullshit. U can walk into villages and kids,small kids will come up to u...some have fingernail polish on...they're a sex toy. While on my second tour they found a 12 year old boy chained to an Afghani Col's desk at the military academy. Man love thursday is real. The muslim weekend is Friday/Saturday..so thursday nights..its on. We could hear the older Afghai soldiers raping the younger ones on the compound at Bagram...I have more but this thread has gone waaaaay to homo.
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Yeah..all bullshit. U can walk into villages and kids,small kids will come up to u...some have fingernail polish on...they're a sex toy. While on my second tour they found a 12 year old boy chained to an Afghani Col's desk at the military academy. Man love thursday is real. The muslim weekend is Friday/Saturday..so thursday nights..its on. We could hear the older Afghai soldiers raping the younger ones on the compound at Bagram...I have more but this thread has gone waaaaay to homo.
Thats some sick shit bro wtf is this world coming to?
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Yeah..all bullshit. U can walk into villages and kids,small kids will come up to u...some have fingernail polish on...they're a sex toy. While on my second tour they found a 12 year old boy chained to an Afghani Col's desk at the military academy. Man love thursday is real. The muslim weekend is Friday/Saturday..so thursday nights..its on. We could hear the older Afghai soldiers raping the younger ones on the compound at Bagram...I have more but this thread has gone waaaaay to homo.
Bay,Jtsunami and BigDB want to inlist pronto :D
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Bay,Jtsunami and BigDB want to inlist pronto :D
Are you saying they are online getting airline tickets right now?
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Yeah..all bullshit. U can walk into villages and kids,small kids will come up to u...some have fingernail polish on...they're a sex toy. While on my second tour they found a 12 year old boy chained to an Afghani Col's desk at the military academy. Man love thursday is real. The muslim weekend is Friday/Saturday..so thursday nights..its on. We could hear the older Afghai soldiers raping the younger ones on the compound at Bagram...I have more but this thread has gone waaaaay to homo.
Thats nasty, the women need to walk up to those men, show them there cooter (albeit hairy) and say, "eat this"
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Are you saying they are online getting airline tickets right now?
I would say they are already in the air ;D
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Thats nasty, the women need to walk up to those men, show them there cooter (albeit hairy) and say, "eat this"
I think thats what turned them gay in the first place ;D
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Is the misson statement for Saudi Arabia?
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Hmmm, fondness for men, women shut away, women only thought of as a means to procreate. Kill women that have been raped or not virgins...seems like they need some cultural changes. Hopefully KSA_Triceps can set something straight here.
Also I do believe in America, women have gotten too sluttish. There needs to be a happy medium. That being said, I don't know why women need to be segregated and go into one way or door for work or why in some middle eastern countries there are 3 lines @ Mcdonalds---bachelors, women, and families.
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What are the women doing this whole time, all on their own, with no men around?
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What are the women doing this whole time, all on their own, with no men around?
Feeding Nasser.
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What are the women doing this whole time, all on their own, with no men around?
Nobody cared to ask em until now. Maybe you should go there and ask em?
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Look at the source, FOX NEWS. I truly believe that this media outlet is a propaganda machine used by the homosexuals and nefarious individuals who spoonfeed very dumb and ignorant Americans.
They keep these people in the dark and they seem happy to be like ignorant pigs, living in their own shit.
Open your eyes Americans and try to think outside the box. You make it too easy for the Ivy-league, corrupt elite to own you.
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lol muslims are the only men on earth who fuck each others int he ass everynight yet think they re not gays haha. Considering how retarded and backward they are, it will take like 2 centuries before they aknowledge that having love feelings for other men and their bodies and penetrating their anuses until they have an orgasm is indeed homosexuality. But they had the whole world to tell em what it is to figure it out lol.
"big"fagbob is exactly that kind of guy. He even has a "wife", like these "pashtuns" guy over there in astan. He firmly believes he's not gay, and that when in his dreams he sucks on nasser's cock, it doesnt mean he's gay either. He doesnt even know that his "feelings" for "nasser" are just barely repressed homosexuality.
Dude, you re homosexual, deal with it.
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It is funny that the America is the home of the fags. You go to San Francisco and it is all just teaming with them , it is like a fag production line is just churning them out.
In Muslim countries there is no homosexuals as these people - in the few cases they exist - are rooted out and dealt with.
In America you make them the policy makers. Probably the creatures behind this FOX NEWS lies are queers themselfs.
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Look at the source, FOX NEWS. I truly believe that this media outlet is a propaganda machine used by the homosexuals and nefarious individuals who spoonfeed very dumb and ignorant Americans.
They keep these people in the dark and they seem happy to be like ignorant pigs, living in their own shit.
Open your eyes Americans and try to think outside the box. You make it too easy for the Ivy-league, corrupt elite to own you.
dear nasser,
fact is both people from astan and north america are kept in the dark and seem happy to be like ignorant pigs, living in their own shit. Same "shit" happening everywhere int he world but looks like you re not very bright about geopolitics and have a very small life experience. The big diff is here in the west anyone has FREE access to studies and libraries and social structures. Where you come from, they dont.
Also if american are so stupids, why dont you get back to your motherland and live in your fellow compatriots 's shit with em? looks like the shit you re bathing in here in the US with "these american people in the dark who seem happy to be like ignorant pigs" smells better huh?
hypocrit shitbag.
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It is funny that the America is the home of the fags. You go to San Francisco and it is all just teaming with them , it is like a fag production line is just churning them out.
In Muslim countries there is no homosexuals as these people - in the few cases they exist - are rooted out and dealt with.
In America you make them the policy makers. Probably the creatures behind this FOX NEWS lies are queers themselfs.
your comebacks are getting weaker and weaker by the minute.
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It is funny that the America is the home of the fags. You go to San Francisco and it is all just teaming with them , it is like a fag production line is just churning them out.
In Muslim countries there is no homosexuals as these people - in the few cases they exist - are rooted out and dealt with.
In America you make them the policy makers. Probably the creatures behind this FOX NEWS lies are queers themselfs.
Nasser if you dont like it here go home.
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It is funny that the America is the home of the fags. You go to San Francisco and it is all just teaming with them , it is like a fag production line is just churning them out.
In Muslim countries there is no homosexuals as these people - in the few cases they exist - are rooted out and dealt with.
In America you make them the policy makers. Probably the creatures behind this FOX NEWS lies are queers themselfs.
Meh. That's nothing compared to hiding in the shadows like cowardly roach Nasser.
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It is funny that the America is the home of the fags. You go to San Francisco and it is all just teaming with them , it is like a fag production line is just churning them out.
In Muslim countries there is no homosexuals as these people - in the few cases they exist - are rooted out and dealt with.
In America you make them the policy makers. Probably the creatures behind this FOX NEWS lies are queers themselfs.
How are they dealt with?
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Ok...I didn't want to go here but a few more stories..... a buddy of mine is a Fox news reporter. He went into the Panshir to do a story. Thats in Afghanistan..anyway. This was in 2002. Fox "hired" some local security guys. Anyway every night his terp, who was a Tajik and not gay or whatever these people are...would have to snuggle up to him, so the other guys on the detail would not try anything. I've been with these guys, the ANA...after about 5 PM they start to pair up. Ask Garebear...he's on a MTT (military training team). The Iraqi's are not as bad but they will grab ur hand...rub up on u....sit waaaay to close. Its fucking disturbing. The worst is the kids in Afghanistan...nail polish equals bitch. This isn't 'Fox' propaganda. My buddy has worked for the BBC and other outlets....facts are facts and man-love thursday is fact. The women there all wear Burka's. Here in Iraq where I'm at..the arab chicks are all wrapped up but the Kurdish chicks..high heels...tramp stamps...tight ass jeans...boots...waaaay to much perfume.
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There was a interesting story out of Iraq a year or two ago about groups of Muslim militia men kidnapping and gang-raping homosexual men for days on end to punish them for being homosexual. This also involved lots of beatings and degrading of said gay men. Apparently in the Muslim world there's nothing gay about a bunch of men gang-raping a gay man but damned be you if you're an open gay.
Homosexuality is rampant in Muslim society and I'm guessing they're big proponents of the "it's only gay if you're on the receiving end" motto.
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There's isnt a day that goes by that these people don't do something completly ridiculous in the course of a normal day.
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I read a US Marine manual that discusses homosexuality in the South (Pashutn). They said it is very common and to be prepared to see it, but not to pass judgment on it.
That phrase "Women are for babies, men are for fun" appeared in the manual.
I don't go around asking Local Nationals about homosexuality for obvious reasons, but I believe it. I think it's more rampant in the south. Muslism are an incredibly sexually repressed people, I don't think they can even honestly deny that themselves.
Has anyone seen or read 'The Kite Runner'? It depicts a scene of homosexual/ child rape. The movie and book are banned here.
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study is ABSOLUTELY correct...
homo jokes against pashtuns are common schoolyard fare in pakistan
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There was a interesting story out of Iraq a year or two ago about groups of Muslim militia men kidnapping and gang-raping homosexual men for days on end to punish them for being homosexual. This also involved lots of beatings and degrading of said gay men. Apparently in the Muslim world there's nothing gay about a bunch of men gang-raping a gay man but damned be you if you're an open gay.
Homosexuality is rampant in Muslim society and I'm guessing they're big proponents of the "it's only gay if you're on the receiving end" motto.
I'm always impressed when they prosecute/execute women for having been gang-raped. Stay classy.
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U don't see it as much in the North and as much as getting felt up by a dude on a regular basis can become normal...u get used to it. Its the kids that piss me off..Gare are u back?
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a buddy of mine is a Fox news reporter
Ok, name him. If you won't you are a typical shittalker of the getbig.
Homosexuality is rampant in Muslim society
And you know this how, college failure? You ever lived in a Muslim society...or even visit one? HAHAHA I think not. Another person speaking from the typical American viewpoint: absolute ignorance spoonfed propaganda by corrupt media outlets.
I read a US Marine manual that discusses homosexuality in the South (Pashutn). They said it is very common and to be prepared to see it, but not to pass judgment on it.
Yes, otherwise they might get their asses fucked as well as kicked like you always do in your wars. Vietcong ring any bell? ;D
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Ok, name him. If you won't you are a typical shittalker of the getbig.
And you know this how, college failure? You ever lived in a Muslim society...or even visit one? HAHAHA I think not. Another person speaking from the typical American viewpoint: absolute ignorance spoonfed propaganda by corrupt media outlets.
Yes, otherwise they might get their asses fucked as well as kicked like you always do in your wars. Vietcong ring any bell? ;D
who in their right mind, living in the west, would argue that living in a muslim country is better? go back to your shithole nasser. You re borderline pathetic. Whats wrong with you and your hate for your host country. The most educated people from the third world flee it and have nothign good to say about it.
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OK, name him. If you won't you are a typical shittalker of the getbig.
And you know this how, college failure? You ever lived in a Muslim society...or even visit one? HAHAHA I think not. Another person speaking from the typical American viewpoint: absolute ignorance spoonfed propaganda by corrupt media outlets.
Yes, otherwise they might get their asses fucked as well as kicked like you always do in your wars. Vietcong ring any bell? ;D
Nasser STFU, you are one of the men the article references...+ you sell Soiled manties to lesser Muslim men all across the globe..You also never have to really work, i don't see the demand for your undies dying any time soon, with so many gays around the world.
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I'm always impressed when they prosecute/execute women for having been gang-raped. Stay classy.
Salman Rushdie reported on this.
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U don't see it as much in the North and as much as getting felt up by a dude on a regular basis can become normal...u get used to it. Its the kids that piss me off..Gare are u back?
Got about six more weeks.
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its not uncommon for repressed homosexuals to be self-hating
just ask BayGBM he has plenty stories of gay-bashers, preachers and other anti-gay loud mouthes who in fact where sucking dick on the side
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Look at the source, FOX NEWS. I truly believe that this media outlet is a propaganda machine used by the homosexuals and nefarious individuals who spoonfeed very dumb and ignorant Americans.
They keep these people in the dark and they seem happy to be like ignorant pigs, living in their own shit.
Open your eyes Americans and try to think outside the box. You make it too easy for the Ivy-league, corrupt elite to own you.
If anything, FOX would be an ANTI- gay news station.
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I'm always impressed when they prosecute/execute women for having been gang-raped. Stay classy.
Yes, like the 13 year old Somali girl who was stoned to death in 2007 in front of 1,000 people at an old stadium for reporting to police that she had been gang-raped. She had it coming to her. How dare she report that she was gang-raped. ::)
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Ok, name him. If you won't you are a typical shittalker of the getbig.
And you know this how, college failure? You ever lived in a Muslim society...or even visit one? HAHAHA I think not. Another person speaking from the typical American viewpoint: absolute ignorance spoonfed propaganda by corrupt media outlets.
Yes, otherwise they might get their asses fucked as well as kicked like you always do in your wars. Vietcong ring any bell? ;D
Yeah I must have missed where the VC kicked our ass...I guess u missed ur Vietnam history lesson...I'd study Tet. Ive been in and out of the Middle East since 2003....u idiots suck. BZ doesn't need to live there to understand that. I guess having a friend working for Fox is a massive stretch right? Nobody knows anybody on TV.