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Republicans and Fox News don't really like it when People are too smart. They were, after all responsible for "dumbing down America" during the Bush Years. Smart people are a threat. When Obama was "lecturing Republicans" they had to cut away, because they can't have him looking too smart or worse yet, smarter then the Republicans on Television.When ever anything complicated comes on, in the news, they have to turn it over to people like Glenn Beck, or Sean Hannity to put it into the simplest terms possible for the tea baggers to understand.Fox News has been on the anti Intellectual campaign for the nation, because after all, smart people are really just "trouble makers" for the Republican party. do you think the Republicans should just quit talking in complete sentences and just use the key words in their talking points. For example, on health care they can just say 'socialist government takeover' on the meeting 'lecturing and combative'. Since the rest of what they say is useless bull shit :D :D
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the president finally debating one-on-one with the house republicans on the biggest bill of our lifetime - medicare and social security of our generation - and they cut it off.
Everybody here knows the score. It's history, no matter where you stand on the issuem and they cut away to spoon feed you what will happen.
Oh well. Stupid mtherfvckers gotta pick a channel too, I guess.
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the president finally debating one-on-one with the house republicans on the biggest bill of our lifetime - medicare and social security of our generation - and they cut it off.
Everybody here knows the score. It's history, no matter where you stand on the issuem and they cut away to spoon feed you what will happen.
Oh well. Stupid mtherfvckers gotta pick a channel too, I guess.
Why do you people even watch tv?
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in all fairness though, msnbc did cut away from senator-elect brown's speech when he started challenging Obama for not driving a truck.
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in all fairness though, msnbc did cut away from senator-elect brown's speech when he started challenging Obama for not driving a truck.
Obama's speech was nothing more than a pack of lies again. The man is a complete joke.
But hey, he reads a teleprompter nice right 240?
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Obama was off promter and while he agreed to spare with Repubs...he was getting pissed. MSNBC slanted it one way...Fox another. He defended his bullshit. I wish the Repubs had simply said..hey Barry, we can't fucking afford it or u...end it now. Barry isn't coming center, Clinton did ...and he got reelected. 240 u can spin this all u want. Barry didn't come off looking any worse...but he didn't keep calm either. Things will continue as they have been...unless people begin to work...the Dems are out on their ass.
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I am not spinning shit... if Obama was getting schooled left and right, FOX would have let it run and then replayed it constantly.
I hate how yall make every since discussion about 240 defending the whole obama administration. I voted barr and you guys voted for that bag of shit and the flake. Obama's policies are mostly crap, but repubs can't seem to capitalize upon cause their own party is split between lib-lite and teabagger.
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I am not spinning shit... if Obama was getting schooled left and right, FOX would have let it run and then replayed it constantly.
I hate how yall make every since discussion about 240 defending the whole obama administration. I voted barr and you guys voted for that bag of shit and the flake. Obama's policies are mostly crap, but repubs can't seem to capitalize upon cause their own party is split between lib-lite and teabagger.
Absolutely correct.
BTW - I think this type of televised Q&A is exactly what we need in this country.
I want to see both parties and the POTUS talking freely and let's fucking see it unedited and live
Obama did a great job and (IMO) was clearly the smartest person in that room in terms of both policy knowledge and strategy
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yeah, I'd like to give the GOP a week to get together some quesitons and points to refute what Obama said - then they meet and do it again. Hold this meeting every week.
NOBODY here will deny - if Obama was getting schooled in that discussion, FOX would have left it on ;)
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Obama's speech was nothing more than a pack of lies again. The man is a complete joke.
But hey, he reads a teleprompter nice right 240?
he needs to 2 teleprompters to talk to middle schoolers...he's THAT smart ;)
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he needs to 2 teleprompters to talk to middle schoolers...he's THAT smart ;)
yet somehow can talk to Republican leaders off the cuff for more than an hour while most of the Repubs had to read their own questions
and he made most of them look like fools
I want to see more of this on TV
this should be in prime time once a month
let's see our the people who are running our government talking for themselves rather than having pundits tell us what they said and what it really means
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Absolutely correct.
BTW - I think this type of televised Q&A is exactly what we need in this country.
I want to see both parties and the POTUS talking freely and let's fucking see it unedited and live
Obama did a great job and (IMO) was clearly the smartest person in that room in terms of both policy knowledge and strategy
George WMD Bush did this type Q&A with Dems many times. ;)
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George WMD Bush did this type Q&A with Dems many times. ;)
yep - but I don't think they let it be filmed and shown live on TV
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yep - but I don't think they let it be filmed and shown live on TV
No one ever said GWB was a good debater. BTW - Obama himself admitted he lied about the health care mess and broke promises on it.
But good job kneepadding for him bro.
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No one ever said GWB was a good debater. BTW - Obama himself admitted he lied about the health care mess and broke promises on it. But good job kneepadding for him bro.
source?
have I been shy about criticizing Obama?
I criticized him for folding on Van Jones
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yet somehow can talk to Republican leaders off the cuff for more than an hour while most of the Repubs had to read their own questions
i'd like for him to talk to mark levin or rush for 1/2 an hr...
Mr Hussein would get his ass handed to him.....
and then if he is capable of talking without a teleprompter...then do tell why he used one no TWO to talk to kids....
guys a stain....
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btw..i STILL blame whites for this obamination....
how the fuck do you lose control of your own country to the point where a minority guy becomes a president.....
at least i can say this about pakistan....it might be a shithole but you'll NEVER see a white guy or a black guy become prez....EVER
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btw..i STILL blame whites for this obamination....
how the fuck do you lose control of your own country to the point where a minority guy becomes a president.....
at least i can say this about pakistan....it might be a shithole but you'll NEVER see a white guy or a black guy become prez....EVER
I CAN HONESTLY SAY... You are starting to make me fucking sick to my stomach Toxic.... This vile shit is absolutely disgusting and disappointing coming from you. And i am pissed as hell at Obama right now. But this kind of shit from you makes me fucking wanna puke. You need a goddamned reality check.
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Toxic... This was to be a PM, but what the hell, I'll air it for all...
You wanna go play like you're a white superior bred, go gimmick on stormfront. I never wanted to start a feud with you. But this homebread white American with family going back before the founding fathers started this country thinks what you are saying is piss. You my friend need to retake your goddamned citizenship classes.,..
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ToxicAvenger a song for you
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ToxicAvenger a song for you
ahahahahahahahahaha... I'll try my best to one up you on the Toxic train :D
NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!!!
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yeah, I'd like to give the GOP a week to get together some quesitons and points to refute what Obama said - then they meet and do it again. Hold this meeting every week.
NOBODY here will deny - if Obama was getting schooled in that discussion, FOX would have left it on ;)
Here would be my question."You want me to pass your health care bill yet you give an exemption to Unions in the Cadillac tax and don't give it for anyone else.Since unions are 8% of workers in this country,how can I go home and tell the other 83% of workers that I support this?You complain that we painted the bill unfairly but isn't this an example of total hypocrisy"?
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Here would be my question."You want me to pass your health care bill yet you give an exemption to Unions in the Cadillac tax and don't give it for anyone else.Since unions are 8% of workers in this country,how can I go home and tell the other 83% of workers that I support this?You complain that we painted the bill unfairly but isn't this an example of total hypocrisy"?
"Mr. President, you admitted that electricity rates will "skyrocket" under your cap & trade plan, do you really think that now is the time to place this added burden on working families and doesnt this amount to a tax increase of those people you promised not to tax?"
"Mr. President, do you believe terrorists captured overseas deserve constitutional rights under the U.S. Constitution and should be tried in civilian civil courts?"
"Mr. President, you promised that with passage of your Stimulus Bill, UE would not exceed 8.8%, did you not understand the depth of the problem we were facing?"
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Obama DOMINATED the repubs. Good on him for wanting it aired on TV. First Pres ever to do so. He came out very well.
I find the hypocrisy of the republican party tough to swallow at times. For example the whole 'we have ideas for health care too'. Oh really? You also had control of the senate and house for a long ass time and never did anything with those so called 'ideas'. In saying this are they acknowledging the faults of their own party in not making this a priority during their period of control? or are they just whining because they lost control and now want to be seen doing something?
Also i think Obama's point on overly critical actions by politicians affects both parties negatively. If they want a partisan government how are they suppose to get it when they tell their supporters Obama's a racist or marxist or not even American? They back themselves into a corner whereby if they ever agree with anything Obama does they are saying to their voters 'i agree with a racist, marxist etc.' Talk about creating a situation that does nothing to help anyone.
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Obama DOMINATED the repubs. Good on him for wanting it aired on TV. First Pres ever to do so. He came out very well.
I find the hypocrisy of the republican party tough to swallow at times. For example the whole 'we have ideas for health care too'. Oh really? You also had control of the senate and house for a long ass time and never did anything with those so called 'ideas'. In saying this are they acknowledging the faults of their own party in not making this a priority during their period of control? or are they just whining because they lost control and now want to be seen doing something?
Also i think Obama's point on overly critical actions by politicians affects both parties negatively. If they want a partisan government how are they suppose to get it when they tell their supporters Obama's a racist or marxist or not even American? They back themselves into a corner whereby if they ever agree with anything Obama does they are saying to their voters 'i agree with a racist, marxist etc.' Talk about creating a situation that does nothing to help anyone.
KC - I have come to the opinion that Obama secetely hopes the GOP takes back the congress in 2010. Pelosi/Reid are the biggest obstacles to bi-partisanship, since the house GOP cannot work directly with Obama without going through Pelosi.
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Obama DOMINATED the repubs. Good on him for wanting it aired on TV. First Pres ever to do so. He came out very well.
I find the hypocrisy of the republican party tough to swallow at times. For example the whole 'we have ideas for health care too'. Oh really? You also had control of the senate and house for a long ass time and never did anything with those so called 'ideas'. In saying this are they acknowledging the faults of their own party in not making this a priority during their period of control? or are they just whining because they lost control and now want to be seen doing something?
I have an idea about healthcare, its's called the Federal Government staying out of it and letting the states decide for themselves.
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I have an idea about healthcare, its's called the Federal Government staying out of it and letting the states decide for themselves.
KC - grow up - lets say the GOP went to Obama and said - we have ideas X, Y, Z, and Obama sort of ok with it. However, Pelosi, Waxman didnt want it.
What do you think would happen?
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KC - grow up - lets say the GOP went to Obama and said - we have ideas X, Y, Z, and Obama sort of ok with it. However, Pelosi, Waxman didnt want it.
What do you think would happen?
The Federal Govenment has no Constituional authority in this matter. The fact that they continue to get away with this BS is beyond me. What it will take is for the States to tell DC to go pound sand up their ass and promote state rights.
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The Federal Govenment has no Constituional authority in this matter. The fact that they continue to get away with this BS is beyond me. What it will take is for the States to tell DC to go pound sand up their ass and promote state rights.
Enough said.
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Obama's speech was nothing more than a pack of lies again. The man is a complete joke.
But hey, he reads a teleprompter nice right 240?
except in this case there wasn't one.
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yes, without a teleprompter, he destroyed republicans badly (while they had their cue cards and prepared positions).
Maybe he should leave it home more often.
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yes, without a teleprompter, he destroyed republicans badly (while they had their cue cards and prepared positions).
Maybe he should leave it home more often.
On what issue 240?
The deficit? He seemed to conveniently neglect the fact that the dems have been in control since 2007 and his own Stim Bill is one of the main drivers to the deficit.
On Health Care? He admitted he lied about it and broke promises by virtue of what "got snuck in there".
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are you saying he didn't destory the repubs, 33?
FOX turned it off, and MSNBC and CNN played it again at night. GOPer's admitted it was a mistake.
DOESNT MATTER if he was right or wrong - politically it was a win. And this is a politics board, not a morality board.
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are you saying he didn't destory the repubs, 33?
FOX turned it off, and MSNBC and CNN played it again at night. GOPer's admitted it was a mistake.
DOESNT MATTER if he was right or wrong - politically it was a win. And this is a politics board, not a morality board.
Politically, yes it was a win for him.
However, I look for veracity and accuracy, not kneepadding and bs.
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appreciating the fine art of politics isn't kneepadding.
Sarah Pali woudln't finish one shift of night manager at Burger King, yet I admire her ability to perform well politically and convince others of her ability to lead.
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appreciating the fine art of politics isn't kneepadding.
Sarah Pali woudln't finish one shift of night manager at Burger King, yet I admire her ability to perform well politically and convince others of her ability to lead.
Unreal. She did a great job a governor before the marxists showed up to destroy her and you compare that to BK?
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The repubs are in a tail spin haha. Obaminated should be the caption, the story - how the president destroyed the republican party on their turf, without a teleprompter and without notes, something apparently he couldn't do.
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hey, I'm not a fan of state socialism, that's just me.
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Well 240 that's socialism. Don't expect 333 to know it when he sees it. He's too busy starting at her chest to know what's 'upstairs'
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You'll get a kick out of this 240 -
Sarah PAC, Sarah Palin's political action committee, raised more than $1.4 million in the second-half of 2009, according to the Washington Post's Chris Cillizza. That figure brings the group's fundraising haul to $2.1 million for 2009. Cillizza reports:
...Sarah PAC and ended the year with $900,000 in the bank. She donated $64,600 to candidates and party committees.
That relatively high burn rate is due to an expansion of the organization's staff, according to those familiar with its operations. (Remember that with Palin out of office -- she resigned the governorship in July 2009 -- her PAC is her only political and policy vehicle.)
Beyond new staff and donations, what else is Sarah PAC spending money on? Books -- her own book -- according to ABC News:
The former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate had her political organization spend more than $63,000 on what her reports describe as "books for fundraising donor fulfillment." The payments went to Harper Collins, her publisher, and in some instances to HSP Direct, a Virginia-based direct mail fundraising firm that serves a number of well-known conservative politicians and pundits.
Sarah PAC spent another $8,000 on colorful bookmarks designed by a Nashville-based event branding firm. And her committee paid her publisher $20,000 for what appears to have been the cost of sending her personal photographer and another aide along on her book tour.
Hotline offers a more detailed breakdown of the former governor's expenditures.
How many copies of "Going Rogue" would $63,000 buy? It depends. Without knowing how much sales tax was paid on the books or if the former governor bought them at a bulk rate, Palin's group could have bought anywhere from 2,173 (at suggested full retail price of $28.99) to 4,666 copies (at a steeply discounted Amazon rate of $13.50).
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Hysterical. You guys apparently dont understand the difference between companies paying for they take from the land according to a lease agreement and the govts' stealing 50% of my paycheck to fund deadbeats, drunks, dirtbags, etc.
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he needs to 2 teleprompters to talk to middle schoolers...he's THAT smart ;)
well he must be awesomely smart...he needs help talking to middle schoolers but he is president of harvard law review..yeah...i get it...he isnt smart...
amazing...simply amazing
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She's a politician. That's it. She spends money like water and doesn't finish shit. And she whines. That's it. She's not the first "real" person to enter the national political scene. She's a wasteful politician who changes positions - just like Obama, Biden, Mccain, Rudy, and the rest of them.
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She's a politician. That's it. She spends money like water and doesn't finish shit. And she whines. That's it. She's not the first "real" person to enter the national political scene. She's a wasteful politician who changes positions - just like Obama, Biden, Mccain, Rudy, and the rest of them.
Ha ha. No love for Obama any more 240?
What happened? You guys are getting a monorail to Diney World. You aint happy bout dat bro?
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hey, attack the messenger, that's cool.
i notice you're not defending palin either. Have you accepted she's a politician like the rest of them yet?
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hey, attack the messenger, that's cool.
i notice you're not defending palin either. Have you accepted she's a politician like the rest of them yet?
I have to say 240 AND YOU CAN LOOK AT ANY OF MY POSTS, I have always supported her but acknlowedged her flaws.
She is not doing the things I want to see to take her serious for future office. I still like her, and would walk over coals to vote for her over Dear Reader, but to beat Obama at his own game, she is wasting her time doing what she is doing.
Only someone with the off the cuff abilities of someone like Schiff, Newt, or the like will be able to embarass obama in a debte since his lies so well and so convincingly.
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"Only someone with the off the cuff abilities of someone like Schiff, Newt, or the like will be able to embarass obama in a debte since his lies so well and so convincingly. "
Agreed.... Obama is very quick and seriously pwned hilary and mccain in the debates.
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" The former Alaska governor and 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate had her political organization spend more than $63,000 on what her reports describe as "books for fundraising donor fulfillment." "
WOW.... she's getting paid $150k for speaking at the Tea party rally with lobster and $500 plate dinners next week.
AND she is donating the $ to her own charity to use as she sees fit.
Man, I love the tea party ideals... but how "real americans" are $500 lobster dinners, paying her that much $ so she can buy her own books back to keep it high on the bestseller list?
;)
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How hysterical that you people think Obama "dominated" the Republicans. I will admit Obama carried himself well when you dont consider that he grossly distorted the facts, but you guys do realize that Republicans werent allowed to come back with any counterpoints right? I will also admit that some of the questions were retarded and a waste such as Mike Pence asking him if he would consider an across the board tax cut. But all Obama really did was what he usually does, which is to to create false arguments and associate them with his opponents.
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I wonder why the repubs agreed to such a setup. Cameras and that particular format. They asked Qs, so they had their chance to grandstand. Some didn't, some did.
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This is fucking ridiculous, arguing that the POTUS managed to not look like an assclown without the TOTUS, what a windfall ::) The same shit always grand platitudes with no substance, to bad good speeches don't fix problems ::)
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Toxic... This was to be a PM, but what the hell, I'll air it for all...
You wanna go play like you're a white superior bred, go gimmick on stormfront. I never wanted to start a feud with you. But this homebread white American with family going back before the founding fathers started this country thinks what you are saying is piss. You my friend need to retake your goddamned citizenship classes.,..
u lose cred at your screen name...but figures...freedom of speech and liberalism does not go hand in hand :-\
unless we agree with ya
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u lose cred at your screen name...but figures...freedom of speech and liberalism does not go hand in hand :-\
unless we agree with ya
Liberals hate free speech by and large.
They are only liberal when it comes to passing laws forcing you to do what they want.
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ok man ok....i'd love to have condi rice as prez over pelosi anyday... ;D