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Title: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: The_Hammer on February 04, 2010, 11:57:38 AM
Is it impossible to be an IFBB pro without the use of drugs?

My son wants to be a bodybuilder when he grows up and I'm afraid to tell him that all the pros are drug addicts.  I don't want my son to use drugs.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2010, 11:59:41 AM
What do you think?
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: RAZA-BLADE on February 04, 2010, 12:04:55 PM
Better get him some needles for his stocking next year!
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: funk51 on February 04, 2010, 12:05:57 PM
Is it impossible to be an IFBB pro without the use of drugs?

My son wants to be a bodybuilder when he grows up and I'm afraid to tell him that all the pros are drug addicts.  I don't want my son to use drugs.
only about 100 percent use drugs since the dawn of time or the 1965 inagural mister olympia.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: The_Hammer on February 04, 2010, 12:06:02 PM
I'm hoping Bob Chick would answer because I'm showing my son this thread once he does.  My son post on the teen section of Bodybuilding.com and I don't want him to start using steroids.  I want Chick to say that steroids are drugs and are bad for your health.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: dantelis on February 04, 2010, 12:08:58 PM
"What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?"  -  All of them.  You can't make it to IFBB pro level and not use steroids, GH or other sorts of drugs. 
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: RAZA-BLADE on February 04, 2010, 12:09:10 PM
I'm hoping Bob Chick would answer because I'm showing my son this thread once he does.  My son post on the teen section of Bodybuilding.com and I don't want him to start using steroids.  I want Chick to say that steroids are drugs and are bad for your health.

LOL good one!

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: tbombz on February 04, 2010, 12:09:22 PM
sounds like your a dumbass, mother fucker!!  ;)
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 04, 2010, 12:11:02 PM
about 193.657% of them do
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on February 04, 2010, 12:11:11 PM
dude, get him to do another sport

Bodybuilding has no monetary rewards
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: funk51 on February 04, 2010, 12:11:17 PM
I'm hoping Bob Chick would answer because I'm showing my son this thread once he does.  My son post on the teen section of Bodybuilding.com and I don't want him to start using steroids.  I want Chick to say that steroids are drugs and are bad for your health.
       arnold says drugs are bad .......... now,  after they made him famous.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2010, 12:11:25 PM
I'm hoping Bob Chick would answer because I'm showing my son this thread once he does.  My son post on the teen section of Bodybuilding.com and I don't want him to start using steroids.  I want Chick to say that steroids are drugs and are bad for your health.

What does he think about having a delusional smart ass for a father?
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: JasonH on February 04, 2010, 12:15:30 PM
dude, get him to do another sport

Bodybuilding has no monetary rewards

I dunno - maybe "The Hammer"'s son might be interested in the G4P scene once he's a little older.  ???
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: RC on February 04, 2010, 12:33:49 PM
I'd say about 1%, the rest are blessed with superior genetics. 
  ;)
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Flexb on February 04, 2010, 12:35:50 PM
I'd say about 25%
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: tom joad on February 04, 2010, 12:39:11 PM
just as a finishing touch.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: TRIX on February 04, 2010, 12:39:37 PM
you can't be a pro without drugs, yes you can get big (but you'll be high bodyfat)
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: affeman on February 04, 2010, 12:41:29 PM
Is it impossible to be an IFBB pro without the use of drugs?

My son wants to be a bodybuilder when he grows up and I'm afraid to tell him that all the pros are drug addicts.  I don't want my son to use drugs.

Tell him to become a doctor or a lawyer instead, he'll be thankfull for the rest of his life.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on February 04, 2010, 12:42:17 PM
According to muscletech , exactly 3469% !!!
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: rockyfortune on February 04, 2010, 12:44:18 PM
bob will tell you gear is just a small part..the rest is chicken breast, tuna in water, and low and slow cardio...
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 04, 2010, 12:45:30 PM
bob will tell you gear is just a small part..the rest is chicken breast, tuna in water, and low and slow cardio...

still looking at those schmoe threads buddy?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=217467.msg4531745#msg4531745
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: affeman on February 04, 2010, 12:46:30 PM
bob will tell you gear is just a small part..the rest is chicken breast, tuna in water, and low and slow cardio...

(http://www.exfl.com/bodybuilder_Mustafa-Mohammed.jpg)(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=310968.0;attach=351105;image)
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Hulkotron on February 04, 2010, 12:51:48 PM
Only the top 2-5% use Plazmosis.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Devon97 on February 04, 2010, 12:52:01 PM
For figure competitors my guesstimate would be 95%. I know of 1girl who did the Arnold last year who was not on steroids or anti-e's.


Fitness: 95% I know of 2 girls who did the Arnold last year who were not on steroids but one was on anti-e.

Female bbing- 100%

Male bbing: 100%
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2010, 12:55:41 PM
still looking at those schmoe threads buddy?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=217467.msg4531745#msg4531745

hahahaha!! "rockyfortune" = EXPOSED!!

You've been on quite a roll here lately, Mr. Magoo.  :D

Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on February 04, 2010, 12:56:09 PM
For figure competitors my guesstimate would be 95%. I know of 1girls who did the Arnold last year who were not on steroids or anti-e's.


Fitness: 95% I know of 2 girls who did the Arnold last year who were not on steroids but one was on anti-e.

Female bbing- 100%

Male bbing: 100%


This is for FIGURE !?!?! these chics are fukked in the head.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 04, 2010, 12:56:48 PM
hahahaha!! "rockyfortune" = EXPOSED!!

You've been on quite a roll here lately, Mr. Magoo.  :D



I'm here to help  ;D
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: rockyfortune on February 04, 2010, 01:01:02 PM
I'm here to help  ;D

6500 posts in less than 18 months...go get laid you 16 year old spacecadet...
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Mr. Magoo on February 04, 2010, 01:01:32 PM
6500 posts in less than 18 months...go get laid you 16 year old spacecadet...


lmao, I got a feeling you're going to be checking the boards quite often in the next couple of hours
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Devon97 on February 04, 2010, 01:02:09 PM
This is for FIGURE !?!?! these chics are fukked in the head.


Agreed. These girls have serious self esteem issues. The stories I could tell.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: MountaineerMuscle on February 04, 2010, 01:03:50 PM
I thought only baseball players did juice.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: RC on February 04, 2010, 01:10:18 PM
And actors in Hollywood ;D
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: The_Hammer on February 04, 2010, 01:12:14 PM
Agreed. These girls have serious self esteem issues. The stories I could tell.

Tell some stories
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: emn1964 on February 04, 2010, 01:23:15 PM
Noticeable absence of Bob Chic, IFBB Athlete's Rep.  So, Chic, what would you tell this dude's son?  Would you tell him how it is great to aspire to be a drug addicted IFBB "pro"?
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: nzmusclemonster on February 04, 2010, 01:35:43 PM
Up until last year, NZ's National champs were drug tested and the winner was given an IFBB Pro Card.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Chick on February 04, 2010, 01:50:42 PM
Noticeable absence of Bob Chic, IFBB Athlete's Rep.  So, Chic, what would you tell this dude's son?  Would you tell him how it is great to aspire to be a drug addicted IFBB "pro"?

Noticeable absence due to having a life, douchbag....you should get one sometime.

What would I tell his son?  nothing. It's HIS son, and should be guided by his FATHER...not my job.

When his son is old enough to make his own conscience decisions , then HE can decide (hopefully with his fathers guidence and knowledge) what his course in life should be...

should a HS teacher/ coach discourage his ball players from going to to be a drug addicted NFL player? NBA player? MLB player? Swimmer?

should a music teacher or drama coach discourage their students fro becoming a drug addicted actor or musician?


Use your head fool...

Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 04, 2010, 01:52:16 PM
Is your son called Derek Anthoney?
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2010, 01:53:48 PM
Noticeable absence due to having a life, douchbag....you should get one sometime.

What would I tell his son?  nothing. It's HIS son, and should be guided by his FATHER...not my job.

When his son is old enough to make his own conscience decisions , then HE can decide (hopefully with his fathers guidence and knowledge) what his course in life should be...

should a HS teacher/ coach discourage his ball players from going to to be a drug addicted NFL player? NBA player? MLB player? Swimmer?

should a music teacher or drama coach discourage their students fro becoming a drug addicted actor or musician?


Use your head fool...



Chick, slick little move you pulled earlier by getting Ron to delete that 5+ page thread with your name in the title.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Chick on February 04, 2010, 01:56:43 PM
Chick, slick little move you pulled earlier by getting Ron to delete that 5+ page thread with your name in the title.


No idea what youre talking about....and why would I need Ron to delete it when I could just delete it myself?

Heres a clue for you: I dont delete threads I POST in, fool
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2010, 01:58:48 PM
No idea what youre talking about....and why would I need Ron to delete it when I could just delete it myself?

Heres a clue for you: I dont delete threads I POST in, fool

Smart move, keeps your post count higher that way.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: emn1964 on February 04, 2010, 02:09:08 PM
once again, poor chic lashing out like the drug addict that he is...he's getting older now and sadly realizing that his whole adult life has been based around buying and using illegal drugs...that's where this anger comes from, doesn't it chic.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Chick on February 04, 2010, 02:10:30 PM
once again, poor chic lashing out like the drug addict that he is...he's getting older now and sadly realizing that his whole adult life has been based around buying and using illegal drugs...that's where this anger comes from, doesn't it chic.

Is that your best response? Not addressing what I wrote...?

Makes you look like a complete idiot
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: emn1964 on February 04, 2010, 02:15:56 PM
Is that your best response? Not addressing what I wrote...?

Makes you look like a complete idiot

you completely avoided the guy's question chic...sure the father will guide the son, but what would you have to say to him as a member of the IFBB.

you must be very frustrated realizing that you can't really juice the rest of your life.  and that everything and everyone around you is the result of illegal drug use.  so what is gonna happen when you can't juice 365 days a year?  will the people in your life leave?  will all the adoration from your "fans" that you so desperately crave and need evaporate?  will the meager earning you made as an extra in tv commercials be there as you age?  how will you make a living know you have no skill or talent other than the ability to stick a needle in your body and tolerate a course of illegal drugs.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 04, 2010, 02:26:27 PM
Bob,what is your opinion of PGCL?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Chick on February 04, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
you completely avoided the guy's question chic...sure the father will guide the son, but what would you have to say to him as a member of the IFBB.

you must be very frustrated realizing that you can't really juice the rest of your life.  and that everything and everyone around you is the result of illegal drug use.  so what is gonna happen when you can't juice 365 days a year?  will the people in your life leave?  will all the adoration from your "fans" that you so desperately crave and need evaporate?  will the meager earning you made as an extra in tv commercials be there as you age?  how will you make a living know you have no skill or talent other than the ability to stick a needle in your body and tolerate a course of illegal drugs.

Aside from the fact that you STILL failed to address what my response was....the fact that you actually believe the guy is being genuine with his question only backs up the notion that you're a complete moron
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Chick on February 04, 2010, 02:28:54 PM
Bob,what is your opinion of PGCL?
Thanks in advance

No idea what it is...
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on February 04, 2010, 02:32:49 PM
No idea what it is...
Ok,thanks anyway,I startedit tonight,il keep you up to date with my progress
Regards
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: RC on February 04, 2010, 02:42:01 PM
What's up with all the Bob hating?  I use to see him at Gold's ( Venice ) from time to time and he never
struck me a bad guy, just my opinion.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: kiwiol on February 04, 2010, 02:46:34 PM
Hammer, have an honest chat with your boy first and make sure he's really good enough & committed enough to break into the multi-thousand dollar bodybuilding industry and make hundreds of dollars each year.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Lion666 on February 04, 2010, 02:56:33 PM
it's stuff like this thats makes people sick,,,
people that are into the sport and yes it's a sport and no need for some internet copy & paste genius to post a wiki or websters definition on what a sport is.  any competitor in any sport will tell you competition is the sport.  when your up on stage posing to display your strengths and hide your weakness while trying to get your opponent to show his weakness, thats skill and competition... and guess what so is the training,,, when your working on bringing up your weaknesses while the other guy is trying too as well,,, well thats competition,,, thats what any sport is all about.  ask anyone that plays a pro sport, any sport... and being that this is a bodybuilding board ask anyone who's competed or just loves/respects the sport.
as far as this veiled question by hammer,,, i'd expect more from someone whos been a member of this board so long...  you really need someone besides yourself to influence your son a his direction,,, lol.  yes like bob's or any pro answer would help your authority as a parent,,, further more, if you can't use your head and determine how many use well, that's silly.  if you think any pro,,, that makes his living to support himself and possibly his own family that would say anything to hurt his chances to continue making money in this profession again,,, silly.

the people that knock this sport and the athletes,,,, yes they, we are... especially the pro's are ridiculous, this is a bodybuilding board,,, if you don't love/respect or understand this sport/lifestyle then go somewhere else,,, it's baffling that people mock everything about bodybuilding yet they visit and post on this board all day everyday.  you get guys not even members for a year with thousands of post already and they mock all the time,,, clearly since those people have no respect for bb'n then it's obvious they are only here for one reason,,, that's to look at men with muscles and that in the business is considered a schmoe... which is fine,,, there are gay people in every field in all walks of life,,, in every sport too,,, nfl, nba, mlb... I could care less,,, oh wait,,, now I care less. lol

as far as this silly question again....  best not have any kid intend to get into any sport with intentions on being a pro because drugs will be part of the game,,, what ever it is.  bb'n may just have a wider range of types but who knows what people do behind closed doors and again,,, who cares.  it's more noble to get out of work and go to the bar and drink for a lifetime,,, than use performance enhancers to aid in a change in appearance of aid in being better at a pro sport in which someone makes a living,,, again if any one was being hurt it would be the athlete themselves instead of other businesses where others may be hurt.  it's more noble to take a drug and aid in sex performance because after a lifetime of being sedentary and drinking after work everyday killed a libido and made it impossible to perform natural acts,,, thats ok,,, along with cosmetic surgery. lol

i been a member since 03 - 04 because i love and respect the sport of bodybuilding and live it everyday, i love to lift weights, it's more interesting to me than watching tv or talking about cars, i rather build myself real american muscle and up my own performance/horsepower than buying it and owning it psuedo style in some machine... i may not use any illegal aas but i am not disillusioned to what happens in this or any sport, nor would i criticize anyone that does, especially for making a living.  as conseco let everyone know,,, every sport, mlb, nba, nfl, etc. have them....  and of course in all walks of life,,, even yes, even doctors and lawyers drink smoke and use rec. drugs, but rec. drug use seems to be accepted by most people on here so guess they get a pass except roid users, lynch them...  

sure i may go to other sites but getbig is number one, everyone knows that... its an escape and form of entertainment, again i'd rather lift weights than watch tv,,,, so it's tough to lift all day,,, brutal on the joints so when i get a break its cool to look at or listen to stuff that's involved with the sport and it's nice to discuss with people that share the same  respect for bb'n and weight training,,, brothers and siters in iron kinda thing.

further more,,, what ever the political , religous , moral ideas of people are even professions,,, who cares, it's a bb'n board, now this is the gossip & opinions sections of a bodybuilding webiste, so mostly all post will have some bb connotations, which is why most people visit this site.
we used to have more pros here (jay cutler was starting to post a few times but we know how that went)but too many knocked and mocked them so they left,,, questions like state the obvious, such as whats your cycle (meaning, hurt your income to satisfy some internet genious that wants to seem "in the know" and aloof to bb'n, meanwhile they're on a bb'n website, duh)  like any nfl, nba or mlb player would ever take time to post on a board and talk with fan/followers of their respective sport.  that's why its so censored at md because to keep the pros there,,, you have to weed out the moronic posts.  and it's good business to have fan/followers to be able to interact with the pros and stars of the sport.  surely more pros would post here but adults and adult conversation is very scarce at gb...  another point, I posted a serious training question to bob chick a while back and know what,,, he replied with a serious answer,,, which is cool.  think anyone would ask maurice jones drew on how to get a quicker 40 time at the combine and see if he'd tell you ( he may don't know him, lol but theres not really a forum like here ie, nfl g&o ) diffferent than asking, hey bob post your stack, which really means hurt your career and the sport and people mock/knock him for not doing so.  ::)  no mlb player would tell either... bob gets more credit than mcguire,,, at least bob admitted... yet again he gets mocked, lol

or how many gays were at the last show,,,, again stating the obvious... if anyone cares about someones sexual preference,,, thats sad....
and everyone knows about the guy that like to comment on other sexuality,,, it's speaks volumes of their own,,, that is fact.
it's like that no homo sh!t,,, for a while it was funny but after a while all the time it begins to lose laughs and if people really feel the need to defend their "manhood" or st8ness well guess what... lol from another thread,,, alpha don't need to justify  ;)
so to the op,,, since your looking for guidance on how to raise your son from people on an internet bodybuilding website because you don't want him doing drugs and you think bob chick will help influence him, well maybe it's better to not have in invloved in any sports because if he ever has any intentions on choosing a journey to become pro, welll surely drugs will be somewhere along that road for any sport... and being as you don't wany him to take any drugs well guessing you mean rec. drugs too so you might as well home tutor him being public school and worse private schools are flooded with them.
so if you were serious with your thread post this oughtta help you or if you were just being facetious this oughtta help too  ;)

so many on this board are johnny come latley and think they a super internet genious with a degree in copy & pasting, with their witt in kncocking and mocking a sport, again yes it's a sport and unless your involved with the business or competed you have no idea or frame of reference to give a reasonable opinion... people like this that have no respect or love for the sport are just looking to have people think they're smarter than they are when in reality to the poeple involved in this business, in one way or another, to us you are ridiculous.  and technically,,, if you don't love/respect weight training and bb'n then you just come to this site to... cum and look at scantily clad muscle men and that is a term known in the business as a "schmoe" and your reason for mocking the sport and competitors is now clear,,, your jealous you don't have bodies as such and you are mad at your own sexuality and feel inferior with your partner (whether it's a women or man) because you know your partner wishes and would leave you for someone with a better build than you.  so schmoe it up and mock people that go compete for that "plastic trophy", knock those that use ped's (don't forget to mock those that drink, smoke and take viagra) and complain at how unhealthy weight training is (add every sport along with bodybuilding too)

again it's a bodybuilding board and like the saying goes that people see all the time, love it or leave it,,,
well if you don't respect/love bodybuilding then shut the fuk up and get the fuk out.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: BayGBM on February 04, 2010, 04:09:59 PM
Is it impossible to be an IFBB pro without the use of drugs?

My son wants to be a bodybuilder when he grows up and I'm afraid to tell him that all the pros are drug addicts.  I don't want my son to use drugs.

Young fool.  Only now... at the end... do you understand.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: emn1964 on February 04, 2010, 04:34:34 PM
it's stuff like this thats makes people sick,,,
people that are into the sport and yes it's a sport and no need for some internet copy & paste genius to post a wiki or websters definition on what a sport is.  any competitor in any sport will tell you competition is the sport.  when your up on stage posing to display your strengths and hide your weakness while trying to get your opponent to show his weakness, thats skill and competition... and guess what so is the training,,, when your working on bringing up your weaknesses while the other guy is trying too as well,,, well thats competition,,, thats what any sport is all about.  ask anyone that plays a pro sport, any sport... and being that this is a bodybuilding board ask anyone who's competed or just loves/respects the sport.
as far as this veiled question by hammer,,, i'd expect more from someone whos been a member of this board so long...  you really need someone besides yourself to influence your son a his direction,,, lol.  yes like bob's or any pro answer would help your authority as a parent,,, further more, if you can't use your head and determine how many use well, that's silly.  if you think any pro,,, that makes his living to support himself and possibly his own family that would say anything to hurt his chances to continue making money in this profession again,,, silly.

the people that knock this sport and the athletes,,,, yes they, we are... especially the pro's are ridiculous, this is a bodybuilding board,,, if you don't love/respect or understand this sport/lifestyle then go somewhere else,,, it's baffling that people mock everything about bodybuilding yet they visit and post on this board all day everyday.  you get guys not even members for a year with thousands of post already and they mock all the time,,, clearly since those people have no respect for bb'n then it's obvious they are only here for one reason,,, that's to look at men with muscles and that in the business is considered a schmoe... which is fine,,, there are gay people in every field in all walks of life,,, in every sport too,,, nfl, nba, mlb... I could care less,,, oh wait,,, now I care less. lol

as far as this silly question again....  best not have any kid intend to get into any sport with intentions on being a pro because drugs will be part of the game,,, what ever it is.  bb'n may just have a wider range of types but who knows what people do behind closed doors and again,,, who cares.  it's more noble to get out of work and go to the bar and drink for a lifetime,,, than use performance enhancers to aid in a change in appearance of aid in being better at a pro sport in which someone makes a living,,, again if any one was being hurt it would be the athlete themselves instead of other businesses where others may be hurt.  it's more noble to take a drug and aid in sex performance because after a lifetime of being sedentary and drinking after work everyday killed a libido and made it impossible to perform natural acts,,, thats ok,,, along with cosmetic surgery. lol

i been a member since 03 - 04 because i love and respect the sport of bodybuilding and live it everyday, i love to lift weights, it's more interesting to me than watching tv or talking about cars, i rather build myself real american muscle and up my own performance/horsepower than buying it and owning it psuedo style in some machine... i may not use any illegal aas but i am not disillusioned to what happens in this or any sport, nor would i criticize anyone that does, especially for making a living.  as conseco let everyone know,,, every sport, mlb, nba, nfl, etc. have them....  and of course in all walks of life,,, even yes, even doctors and lawyers drink smoke and use rec. drugs, but rec. drug use seems to be accepted by most people on here so guess they get a pass except roid users, lynch them...  

sure i may go to other sites but getbig is number one, everyone knows that... its an escape and form of entertainment, again i'd rather lift weights than watch tv,,,, so it's tough to lift all day,,, brutal on the joints so when i get a break its cool to look at or listen to stuff that's involved with the sport and it's nice to discuss with people that share the same  respect for bb'n and weight training,,, brothers and siters in iron kinda thing.

further more,,, what ever the political , religous , moral ideas of people are even professions,,, who cares, it's a bb'n board, now this is the gossip & opinions sections of a bodybuilding webiste, so mostly all post will have some bb connotations, which is why most people visit this site.
we used to have more pros here (jay cutler was starting to post a few times but we know how that went)but too many knocked and mocked them so they left,,, questions like state the obvious, such as whats your cycle (meaning, hurt your income to satisfy some internet genious that wants to seem "in the know" and aloof to bb'n, meanwhile they're on a bb'n website, duh)  like any nfl, nba or mlb player would ever take time to post on a board and talk with fan/followers of their respective sport.  that's why its so censored at md because to keep the pros there,,, you have to weed out the moronic posts.  and it's good business to have fan/followers to be able to interact with the pros and stars of the sport.  surely more pros would post here but adults and adult conversation is very scarce at gb...  another point, I posted a serious training question to bob chick a while back and know what,,, he replied with a serious answer,,, which is cool.  think anyone would ask maurice jones drew on how to get a quicker 40 time at the combine and see if he'd tell you ( he may don't know him, lol but theres not really a forum like here ie, nfl g&o ) diffferent than asking, hey bob post your stack, which really means hurt your career and the sport and people mock/knock him for not doing so.  ::)  no mlb player would tell either... bob gets more credit than mcguire,,, at least bob admitted... yet again he gets mocked, lol

or how many gays were at the last show,,,, again stating the obvious... if anyone cares about someones sexual preference,,, thats sad....
and everyone knows about the guy that like to comment on other sexuality,,, it's speaks volumes of their own,,, that is fact.
it's like that no homo sh!t,,, for a while it was funny but after a while all the time it begins to lose laughs and if people really feel the need to defend their "manhood" or st8ness well guess what... lol from another thread,,, alpha don't need to justify  ;)
so to the op,,, since your looking for guidance on how to raise your son from people on an internet bodybuilding website because you don't want him doing drugs and you think bob chick will help influence him, well maybe it's better to not have in invloved in any sports because if he ever has any intentions on choosing a journey to become pro, welll surely drugs will be somewhere along that road for any sport... and being as you don't wany him to take any drugs well guessing you mean rec. drugs too so you might as well home tutor him being public school and worse private schools are flooded with them.
so if you were serious with your thread post this oughtta help you or if you were just being facetious this oughtta help too  ;)

so many on this board are johnny come latley and think they a super internet genious with a degree in copy & pasting, with their witt in kncocking and mocking a sport, again yes it's a sport and unless your involved with the business or competed you have no idea or frame of reference to give a reasonable opinion... people like this that have no respect or love for the sport are just looking to have people think they're smarter than they are when in reality to the poeple involved in this business, in one way or another, to us you are ridiculous.  and technically,,, if you don't love/respect weight training and bb'n then you just come to this site to... cum and look at scantily clad muscle men and that is a term known in the business as a "schmoe" and your reason for mocking the sport and competitors is now clear,,, your jealous you don't have bodies as such and you are mad at your own sexuality and feel inferior with your partner (whether it's a women or man) because you know your partner wishes and would leave you for someone with a better build than you.  so schmoe it up and mock people that go compete for that "plastic trophy", knock those that use ped's (don't forget to mock those that drink, smoke and take viagra) and complain at how unhealthy weight training is (add every sport along with bodybuilding too)

again it's a bodybuilding board and like the saying goes that people see all the time, love it or leave it,,,
well if you don't respect/love bodybuilding then shut the fuk up and get the fuk out.

huh?
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: jaejonna on February 04, 2010, 04:41:18 PM
it's stuff like this thats makes people sick,,,
people that are into the sport and yes it's a sport and no need for some internet copy & paste genius to post a wiki or websters definition on what a sport is.  any competitor in any sport will tell you competition is the sport.  when your up on stage posing to display your strengths and hide your weakness while trying to get your opponent to show his weakness, thats skill and competition... and guess what so is the training,,, when your working on bringing up your weaknesses while the other guy is trying too as well,,, well thats competition,,, thats what any sport is all about.  ask anyone that plays a pro sport, any sport... and being that this is a bodybuilding board ask anyone who's competed or just loves/respects the sport.
as far as this veiled question by hammer,,, i'd expect more from someone whos been a member of this board so long...  you really need someone besides yourself to influence your son a his direction,,, lol.  yes like bob's or any pro answer would help your authority as a parent,,, further more, if you can't use your head and determine how many use well, that's silly.  if you think any pro,,, that makes his living to support himself and possibly his own family that would say anything to hurt his chances to continue making money in this profession again,,, silly.

the people that knock this sport and the athletes,,,, yes they, we are... especially the pro's are ridiculous, this is a bodybuilding board,,, if you don't love/respect or understand this sport/lifestyle then go somewhere else,,, it's baffling that people mock everything about bodybuilding yet they visit and post on this board all day everyday.  you get guys not even members for a year with thousands of post already and they mock all the time,,, clearly since those people have no respect for bb'n then it's obvious they are only here for one reason,,, that's to look at men with muscles and that in the business is considered a schmoe... which is fine,,, there are gay people in every field in all walks of life,,, in every sport too,,, nfl, nba, mlb... I could care less,,, oh wait,,, now I care less. lol

as far as this silly question again....  best not have any kid intend to get into any sport with intentions on being a pro because drugs will be part of the game,,, what ever it is.  bb'n may just have a wider range of types but who knows what people do behind closed doors and again,,, who cares.  it's more noble to get out of work and go to the bar and drink for a lifetime,,, than use performance enhancers to aid in a change in appearance of aid in being better at a pro sport in which someone makes a living,,, again if any one was being hurt it would be the athlete themselves instead of other businesses where others may be hurt.  it's more noble to take a drug and aid in sex performance because after a lifetime of being sedentary and drinking after work everyday killed a libido and made it impossible to perform natural acts,,, thats ok,,, along with cosmetic surgery. lol

i been a member since 03 - 04 because i love and respect the sport of bodybuilding and live it everyday, i love to lift weights, it's more interesting to me than watching tv or talking about cars, i rather build myself real american muscle and up my own performance/horsepower than buying it and owning it psuedo style in some machine... i may not use any illegal aas but i am not disillusioned to what happens in this or any sport, nor would i criticize anyone that does, especially for making a living.  as conseco let everyone know,,, every sport, mlb, nba, nfl, etc. have them....  and of course in all walks of life,,, even yes, even doctors and lawyers drink smoke and use rec. drugs, but rec. drug use seems to be accepted by most people on here so guess they get a pass except roid users, lynch them...  

sure i may go to other sites but getbig is number one, everyone knows that... its an escape and form of entertainment, again i'd rather lift weights than watch tv,,,, so it's tough to lift all day,,, brutal on the joints so when i get a break its cool to look at or listen to stuff that's involved with the sport and it's nice to discuss with people that share the same  respect for bb'n and weight training,,, brothers and siters in iron kinda thing.

further more,,, what ever the political , religous , moral ideas of people are even professions,,, who cares, it's a bb'n board, now this is the gossip & opinions sections of a bodybuilding webiste, so mostly all post will have some bb connotations, which is why most people visit this site.
we used to have more pros here (jay cutler was starting to post a few times but we know how that went)but too many knocked and mocked them so they left,,, questions like state the obvious, such as whats your cycle (meaning, hurt your income to satisfy some internet genious that wants to seem "in the know" and aloof to bb'n, meanwhile they're on a bb'n website, duh)  like any nfl, nba or mlb player would ever take time to post on a board and talk with fan/followers of their respective sport.  that's why its so censored at md because to keep the pros there,,, you have to weed out the moronic posts.  and it's good business to have fan/followers to be able to interact with the pros and stars of the sport.  surely more pros would post here but adults and adult conversation is very scarce at gb...  another point, I posted a serious training question to bob chick a while back and know what,,, he replied with a serious answer,,, which is cool.  think anyone would ask maurice jones drew on how to get a quicker 40 time at the combine and see if he'd tell you ( he may don't know him, lol but theres not really a forum like here ie, nfl g&o ) diffferent than asking, hey bob post your stack, which really means hurt your career and the sport and people mock/knock him for not doing so.  ::)  no mlb player would tell either... bob gets more credit than mcguire,,, at least bob admitted... yet again he gets mocked, lol

or how many gays were at the last show,,,, again stating the obvious... if anyone cares about someones sexual preference,,, thats sad....
and everyone knows about the guy that like to comment on other sexuality,,, it's speaks volumes of their own,,, that is fact.
it's like that no homo sh!t,,, for a while it was funny but after a while all the time it begins to lose laughs and if people really feel the need to defend their "manhood" or st8ness well guess what... lol from another thread,,, alpha don't need to justify  ;)
so to the op,,, since your looking for guidance on how to raise your son from people on an internet bodybuilding website because you don't want him doing drugs and you think bob chick will help influence him, well maybe it's better to not have in invloved in any sports because if he ever has any intentions on choosing a journey to become pro, welll surely drugs will be somewhere along that road for any sport... and being as you don't wany him to take any drugs well guessing you mean rec. drugs too so you might as well home tutor him being public school and worse private schools are flooded with them.
so if you were serious with your thread post this oughtta help you or if you were just being facetious this oughtta help too  ;)

so many on this board are johnny come latley and think they a super internet genious with a degree in copy & pasting, with their witt in kncocking and mocking a sport, again yes it's a sport and unless your involved with the business or competed you have no idea or frame of reference to give a reasonable opinion... people like this that have no respect or love for the sport are just looking to have people think they're smarter than they are when in reality to the poeple involved in this business, in one way or another, to us you are ridiculous.  and technically,,, if you don't love/respect weight training and bb'n then you just come to this site to... cum and look at scantily clad muscle men and that is a term known in the business as a "schmoe" and your reason for mocking the sport and competitors is now clear,,, your jealous you don't have bodies as such and you are mad at your own sexuality and feel inferior with your partner (whether it's a women or man) because you know your partner wishes and would leave you for someone with a better build than you.  so schmoe it up and mock people that go compete for that "plastic trophy", knock those that use ped's (don't forget to mock those that drink, smoke and take viagra) and complain at how unhealthy weight training is (add every sport along with bodybuilding too)

again it's a bodybuilding board and like the saying goes that people see all the time, love it or leave it,,,
well if you don't respect/love bodybuilding then shut the fuk up and get the fuk out.
Hahahahaha Epic Chasing the Dream Meltdown hahahahaha you pretty much covered all the bases ....so what would you tell your 'kid' ...hey sonny its BB, of course there are steriods in it...bend over while i stick you with this needle...then go to Uncle Chuck and pose in your undies to prepare for your illustrious 'career' hhahahahah @ plastic trophies
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Devon97 on February 04, 2010, 04:51:08 PM
Tell some stories

Ok....

I met a girl at the Arnold Expo back in 2004. She was working the VPX booth. She was young( mid 20's) fresh, good skin, hair, lean, muscular and still very feminine and was in my opinion the hottest girl in the entire expo.

I bumped into her 7 months later at another expo and she was 20+ lbs heavier, tore up skin, deeep raspy voice and still stuck payin' her dues in the NPC.

Her OFF-season routine consisted of fasted state early Morning long duration cardio, ongoing thermos, starvation (yes still offseason) diets which led to frequent binging on baked foods and handfuls of mixed nuts.  

She actually competed in the Arnold in 2006 and by now had hair falling out, skin like shoe leather, and a voice that sounded like the wicked witch of the west.

She alwasys complained to be in tremendous debt (( having to borrow money from people just to put gas in her car) but thats never stopped her from doing more and more shows, driving herself deeper into debt.


She shaked up with a bber in the industry and then he booted her out and then she started sleeping with a IFBB guy but he would never commit to her - so she was always complaining about beeing in debt and how she was neever going to talk to the guy again sice he would not be exclusive w/ her ( she always went back to him).

Now she is finally off the drugs, blew up about 40 lbs and went back to school and moved back home.

She def lived the dream, and is now paying the price.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Lion666 on February 04, 2010, 05:15:56 PM
Hahahahaha Epic Chasing the Dream Meltdown hahahahaha you pretty much covered all the bases ....so what would you tell your 'kid' ...hey sonny its BB, of course there are steriods in it...bend over while i stick you with this needle...then go to Uncle Chuck and pose in your undies to prepare for your illustrious 'career' hhahahahah @ plastic trophies

1 thing for certain,,, I wouldn't ask anybody with "help" for assistance in guiding my kid and 2 I wouldn't post a psuedo question to break balls and seem witty...
the original question is either silly or spiteful... if by slight chance it is serious then it's sad and getbig has a lot of influence in people lives that they would go to it's members for family advice.

acting & music is a super shady biz filled with stories of famous stars with "questionable" starts in their respective biz...
every biz in this country/world so many times it's just stating the obvious,,, children like to state the obvious.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Lion666 on February 04, 2010, 05:17:09 PM
huh?

your on here since 2004,,, figured you'd be someone that agrees.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Hulkotron on February 04, 2010, 05:55:18 PM
it's stuff like this thats makes people sick,,,
people that are into the sport and yes it's a sport and no need for some internet copy & paste genius to post a wiki or websters definition on what a sport is.  any competitor in any sport will tell you competition is the sport.  when your up on stage posing to display your strengths and hide your weakness while trying to get your opponent to show his weakness, thats skill and competition... and guess what so is the training,,, when your working on bringing up your weaknesses while the other guy is trying too as well,,, well thats competition,,, thats what any sport is all about.  ask anyone that plays a pro sport, any sport... and being that this is a bodybuilding board ask anyone who's competed or just loves/respects the sport.
as far as this veiled question by hammer,,, i'd expect more from someone whos been a member of this board so long...  you really need someone besides yourself to influence your son a his direction,,, lol.  yes like bob's or any pro answer would help your authority as a parent,,, further more, if you can't use your head and determine how many use well, that's silly.  if you think any pro,,, that makes his living to support himself and possibly his own family that would say anything to hurt his chances to continue making money in this profession again,,, silly.

the people that knock this sport and the athletes,,,, yes they, we are... especially the pro's are ridiculous, this is a bodybuilding board,,, if you don't love/respect or understand this sport/lifestyle then go somewhere else,,, it's baffling that people mock everything about bodybuilding yet they visit and post on this board all day everyday.  you get guys not even members for a year with thousands of post already and they mock all the time,,, clearly since those people have no respect for bb'n then it's obvious they are only here for one reason,,, that's to look at men with muscles and that in the business is considered a schmoe... which is fine,,, there are gay people in every field in all walks of life,,, in every sport too,,, nfl, nba, mlb... I could care less,,, oh wait,,, now I care less. lol

as far as this silly question again....  best not have any kid intend to get into any sport with intentions on being a pro because drugs will be part of the game,,, what ever it is.  bb'n may just have a wider range of types but who knows what people do behind closed doors and again,,, who cares.  it's more noble to get out of work and go to the bar and drink for a lifetime,,, than use performance enhancers to aid in a change in appearance of aid in being better at a pro sport in which someone makes a living,,, again if any one was being hurt it would be the athlete themselves instead of other businesses where others may be hurt.  it's more noble to take a drug and aid in sex performance because after a lifetime of being sedentary and drinking after work everyday killed a libido and made it impossible to perform natural acts,,, thats ok,,, along with cosmetic surgery. lol

i been a member since 03 - 04 because i love and respect the sport of bodybuilding and live it everyday, i love to lift weights, it's more interesting to me than watching tv or talking about cars, i rather build myself real american muscle and up my own performance/horsepower than buying it and owning it psuedo style in some machine... i may not use any illegal aas but i am not disillusioned to what happens in this or any sport, nor would i criticize anyone that does, especially for making a living.  as conseco let everyone know,,, every sport, mlb, nba, nfl, etc. have them....  and of course in all walks of life,,, even yes, even doctors and lawyers drink smoke and use rec. drugs, but rec. drug use seems to be accepted by most people on here so guess they get a pass except roid users, lynch them...  

sure i may go to other sites but getbig is number one, everyone knows that... its an escape and form of entertainment, again i'd rather lift weights than watch tv,,,, so it's tough to lift all day,,, brutal on the joints so when i get a break its cool to look at or listen to stuff that's involved with the sport and it's nice to discuss with people that share the same  respect for bb'n and weight training,,, brothers and siters in iron kinda thing.

further more,,, what ever the political , religous , moral ideas of people are even professions,,, who cares, it's a bb'n board, now this is the gossip & opinions sections of a bodybuilding webiste, so mostly all post will have some bb connotations, which is why most people visit this site.
we used to have more pros here (jay cutler was starting to post a few times but we know how that went)but too many knocked and mocked them so they left,,, questions like state the obvious, such as whats your cycle (meaning, hurt your income to satisfy some internet genious that wants to seem "in the know" and aloof to bb'n, meanwhile they're on a bb'n website, duh)  like any nfl, nba or mlb player would ever take time to post on a board and talk with fan/followers of their respective sport.  that's why its so censored at md because to keep the pros there,,, you have to weed out the moronic posts.  and it's good business to have fan/followers to be able to interact with the pros and stars of the sport.  surely more pros would post here but adults and adult conversation is very scarce at gb...  another point, I posted a serious training question to bob chick a while back and know what,,, he replied with a serious answer,,, which is cool.  think anyone would ask maurice jones drew on how to get a quicker 40 time at the combine and see if he'd tell you ( he may don't know him, lol but theres not really a forum like here ie, nfl g&o ) diffferent than asking, hey bob post your stack, which really means hurt your career and the sport and people mock/knock him for not doing so.  ::)  no mlb player would tell either... bob gets more credit than mcguire,,, at least bob admitted... yet again he gets mocked, lol

or how many gays were at the last show,,,, again stating the obvious... if anyone cares about someones sexual preference,,, thats sad....
and everyone knows about the guy that like to comment on other sexuality,,, it's speaks volumes of their own,,, that is fact.
it's like that no homo sh!t,,, for a while it was funny but after a while all the time it begins to lose laughs and if people really feel the need to defend their "manhood" or st8ness well guess what... lol from another thread,,, alpha don't need to justify  ;)
so to the op,,, since your looking for guidance on how to raise your son from people on an internet bodybuilding website because you don't want him doing drugs and you think bob chick will help influence him, well maybe it's better to not have in invloved in any sports because if he ever has any intentions on choosing a journey to become pro, welll surely drugs will be somewhere along that road for any sport... and being as you don't wany him to take any drugs well guessing you mean rec. drugs too so you might as well home tutor him being public school and worse private schools are flooded with them.
so if you were serious with your thread post this oughtta help you or if you were just being facetious this oughtta help too  ;)

so many on this board are johnny come latley and think they a super internet genious with a degree in copy & pasting, with their witt in kncocking and mocking a sport, again yes it's a sport and unless your involved with the business or competed you have no idea or frame of reference to give a reasonable opinion... people like this that have no respect or love for the sport are just looking to have people think they're smarter than they are when in reality to the poeple involved in this business, in one way or another, to us you are ridiculous.  and technically,,, if you don't love/respect weight training and bb'n then you just come to this site to... cum and look at scantily clad muscle men and that is a term known in the business as a "schmoe" and your reason for mocking the sport and competitors is now clear,,, your jealous you don't have bodies as such and you are mad at your own sexuality and feel inferior with your partner (whether it's a women or man) because you know your partner wishes and would leave you for someone with a better build than you.  so schmoe it up and mock people that go compete for that "plastic trophy", knock those that use ped's (don't forget to mock those that drink, smoke and take viagra) and complain at how unhealthy weight training is (add every sport along with bodybuilding too)

again it's a bodybuilding board and like the saying goes that people see all the time, love it or leave it,,,
well if you don't respect/love bodybuilding then shut the fuk up and get the fuk out.

Too long didn't read
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on February 04, 2010, 06:09:25 PM
Ok....

I met a girl at the Arnold Expo back in 2004. She was working the VPX booth. She was young( mid 20's) fresh, good skin, hair, lean, muscular and still very feminine and was in my opinion the hottest girl in the entire expo.

I bumped into her 7 months later at another expo and she was 20+ lbs heavier, tore up skin, deeep raspy voice and still stuck payin' her dues in the NPC.

Her OFF-season routine consisted of fasted state early Morning long duration cardio, ongoing thermos, starvation (yes still offseason) diets which led to frequent binging on baked foods and handfuls of mixed nuts.  

She actually competed in the Arnold in 2006 and by now had hair falling out, skin like shoe leather, and a voice that sounded like the wicked witch of the west.

She alwasys complained to be in tremendous debt (( having to borrow money from people just to put gas in her car) but thats never stopped her from doing more and more shows, driving herself deeper into debt.


She shaked up with a bber in the industry and then he booted her out and then she started sleeping with a IFBB guy but he would never commit to her - so she was always complaining about beeing in debt and how she was neever going to talk to the guy again sice he would not be exclusive w/ her ( she always went back to him).

Now she is finally off the drugs, blew up about 40 lbs and went back to school and moved back home.

She def lived the dream, and is now paying the price.

I like your story. Some people have to wake up from their dreams. If u don't reach success (win a local contest) within 2-3 years with serious juicing then u will never get anywhere in this business. Higher dosages will not help you! It's better to realize the truth than spend both money and time in vein.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Devon97 on February 04, 2010, 06:26:12 PM
I like your story. Some people have to wake up from their dreams. If u don't reach success (win a local contest) within 2-3 years with serious juicing then u will never get anywhere in this business. Higher dosages will not help you! It's better to realize the truth than spend both money and time in vein.

Glad you like, I have many many more.

Thats the problem- they will never realize that they have no chance because they are not healthy ( mentally) and have SEVERE self image disorders.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on February 04, 2010, 06:34:16 PM
Glad you like, I have many many more.

Thats the problem- they will never realize that they have no chance because they are not healthy ( mentally) and have SEVERE self image disorders.

I have seen people like that, they are living in a dream... but, what is a life without any dreams. I hate that Morpheus gave me the blue pill :D

700 post hip hip hurray!
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Devon97 on February 04, 2010, 06:41:17 PM
I have seen people like that, they are living in a dream... but, what is a life without any dreams. I hate that Morpheus gave me the blue pill :D

700 post hip hip hurray!

Are you saying you don't want to see how deeep the rabbit hole goes?
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Julio Ceasar on February 04, 2010, 06:45:52 PM
Are you saying you don't want to see how deeep the rabbit hole goes?

Walking in that rabbit hole make u depressed :)
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: HDPhysiques on February 04, 2010, 06:46:53 PM
dude, get him to do another a sport

Fixed.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: HDPhysiques on February 04, 2010, 06:48:11 PM
Ok....

I met a girl at the Arnold Expo back in 2004. She was working the VPX booth. She was young( mid 20's) fresh, good skin, hair, lean, muscular and still very feminine and was in my opinion the hottest girl in the entire expo.

I bumped into her 7 months later at another expo and she was 20+ lbs heavier, tore up skin, deeep raspy voice and still stuck payin' her dues in the NPC.

Her OFF-season routine consisted of fasted state early Morning long duration cardio, ongoing thermos, starvation (yes still offseason) diets which led to frequent binging on baked foods and handfuls of mixed nuts.  

She actually competed in the Arnold in 2006 and by now had hair falling out, skin like shoe leather, and a voice that sounded like the wicked witch of the west.

She alwasys complained to be in tremendous debt (( having to borrow money from people just to put gas in her car) but thats never stopped her from doing more and more shows, driving herself deeper into debt.


She shaked up with a bber in the industry and then he booted her out and then she started sleeping with a IFBB guy but he would never commit to her - so she was always complaining about beeing in debt and how she was neever going to talk to the guy again sice he would not be exclusive w/ her ( she always went back to him).

Now she is finally off the drugs, blew up about 40 lbs and went back to school and moved back home.

She def lived the dream, and is now paying the price.

Names or it didn't happen.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Devon97 on February 04, 2010, 07:00:06 PM
Names or it didn't happen.

haha  no need to cause anyone any more shame than they have alreay had to endure.

Whats sad is I know several girls who just keep going back for more! As if having sme hair falling out isn't bad enough- they must want to be completely bald!
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: BayGBM on February 04, 2010, 08:30:49 PM
Why would a sane father encourage his son to become a bodybuilder?  ???
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Whiskey on February 05, 2010, 04:20:02 AM
it's stuff like this thats makes people sick,,,
people that are into the sport and yes it's a sport and no need for some internet copy & paste genius to post a wiki or websters definition on what a sport is.  any competitor in any sport will tell you competition is the sport.  when your up on stage posing to display your strengths and hide your weakness while trying to get your opponent to show his weakness, thats skill and competition... and guess what so is the training,,, when your working on bringing up your weaknesses while the other guy is trying too as well,,, well thats competition,,, thats what any sport is all about.  ask anyone that plays a pro sport, any sport... and being that this is a bodybuilding board ask anyone who's competed or just loves/respects the sport.
as far as this veiled question by hammer,,, i'd expect more from someone whos been a member of this board so long...  you really need someone besides yourself to influence your son a his direction,,, lol.  yes like bob's or any pro answer would help your authority as a parent,,, further more, if you can't use your head and determine how many use well, that's silly.  if you think any pro,,, that makes his living to support himself and possibly his own family that would say anything to hurt his chances to continue making money in this profession again,,, silly.

the people that knock this sport and the athletes,,,, yes they, we are... especially the pro's are ridiculous, this is a bodybuilding board,,, if you don't love/respect or understand this sport/lifestyle then go somewhere else,,, it's baffling that people mock everything about bodybuilding yet they visit and post on this board all day everyday.  you get guys not even members for a year with thousands of post already and they mock all the time,,, clearly since those people have no respect for bb'n then it's obvious they are only here for one reason,,, that's to look at men with muscles and that in the business is considered a schmoe... which is fine,,, there are gay people in every field in all walks of life,,, in every sport too,,, nfl, nba, mlb... I could care less,,, oh wait,,, now I care less. lol

as far as this silly question again....  best not have any kid intend to get into any sport with intentions on being a pro because drugs will be part of the game,,, what ever it is.  bb'n may just have a wider range of types but who knows what people do behind closed doors and again,,, who cares.  it's more noble to get out of work and go to the bar and drink for a lifetime,,, than use performance enhancers to aid in a change in appearance of aid in being better at a pro sport in which someone makes a living,,, again if any one was being hurt it would be the athlete themselves instead of other businesses where others may be hurt.  it's more noble to take a drug and aid in sex performance because after a lifetime of being sedentary and drinking after work everyday killed a libido and made it impossible to perform natural acts,,, thats ok,,, along with cosmetic surgery. lol

i been a member since 03 - 04 because i love and respect the sport of bodybuilding and live it everyday, i love to lift weights, it's more interesting to me than watching tv or talking about cars, i rather build myself real american muscle and up my own performance/horsepower than buying it and owning it psuedo style in some machine... i may not use any illegal aas but i am not disillusioned to what happens in this or any sport, nor would i criticize anyone that does, especially for making a living.  as conseco let everyone know,,, every sport, mlb, nba, nfl, etc. have them....  and of course in all walks of life,,, even yes, even doctors and lawyers drink smoke and use rec. drugs, but rec. drug use seems to be accepted by most people on here so guess they get a pass except roid users, lynch them...  

sure i may go to other sites but getbig is number one, everyone knows that... its an escape and form of entertainment, again i'd rather lift weights than watch tv,,,, so it's tough to lift all day,,, brutal on the joints so when i get a break its cool to look at or listen to stuff that's involved with the sport and it's nice to discuss with people that share the same  respect for bb'n and weight training,,, brothers and siters in iron kinda thing.

further more,,, what ever the political , religous , moral ideas of people are even professions,,, who cares, it's a bb'n board, now this is the gossip & opinions sections of a bodybuilding webiste, so mostly all post will have some bb connotations, which is why most people visit this site.
we used to have more pros here (jay cutler was starting to post a few times but we know how that went)but too many knocked and mocked them so they left,,, questions like state the obvious, such as whats your cycle (meaning, hurt your income to satisfy some internet genious that wants to seem "in the know" and aloof to bb'n, meanwhile they're on a bb'n website, duh)  like any nfl, nba or mlb player would ever take time to post on a board and talk with fan/followers of their respective sport.  that's why its so censored at md because to keep the pros there,,, you have to weed out the moronic posts.  and it's good business to have fan/followers to be able to interact with the pros and stars of the sport.  surely more pros would post here but adults and adult conversation is very scarce at gb...  another point, I posted a serious training question to bob chick a while back and know what,,, he replied with a serious answer,,, which is cool.  think anyone would ask maurice jones drew on how to get a quicker 40 time at the combine and see if he'd tell you ( he may don't know him, lol but theres not really a forum like here ie, nfl g&o ) diffferent than asking, hey bob post your stack, which really means hurt your career and the sport and people mock/knock him for not doing so.  ::)  no mlb player would tell either... bob gets more credit than mcguire,,, at least bob admitted... yet again he gets mocked, lol

or how many gays were at the last show,,,, again stating the obvious... if anyone cares about someones sexual preference,,, thats sad....
and everyone knows about the guy that like to comment on other sexuality,,, it's speaks volumes of their own,,, that is fact.
it's like that no homo sh!t,,, for a while it was funny but after a while all the time it begins to lose laughs and if people really feel the need to defend their "manhood" or st8ness well guess what... lol from another thread,,, alpha don't need to justify  ;)
so to the op,,, since your looking for guidance on how to raise your son from people on an internet bodybuilding website because you don't want him doing drugs and you think bob chick will help influence him, well maybe it's better to not have in invloved in any sports because if he ever has any intentions on choosing a journey to become pro, welll surely drugs will be somewhere along that road for any sport... and being as you don't wany him to take any drugs well guessing you mean rec. drugs too so you might as well home tutor him being public school and worse private schools are flooded with them.
so if you were serious with your thread post this oughtta help you or if you were just being facetious this oughtta help too  ;)

so many on this board are johnny come latley and think they a super internet genious with a degree in copy & pasting, with their witt in kncocking and mocking a sport, again yes it's a sport and unless your involved with the business or competed you have no idea or frame of reference to give a reasonable opinion... people like this that have no respect or love for the sport are just looking to have people think they're smarter than they are when in reality to the poeple involved in this business, in one way or another, to us you are ridiculous.  and technically,,, if you don't love/respect weight training and bb'n then you just come to this site to... cum and look at scantily clad muscle men and that is a term known in the business as a "schmoe" and your reason for mocking the sport and competitors is now clear,,, your jealous you don't have bodies as such and you are mad at your own sexuality and feel inferior with your partner (whether it's a women or man) because you know your partner wishes and would leave you for someone with a better build than you.  so schmoe it up and mock people that go compete for that "plastic trophy", knock those that use ped's (don't forget to mock those that drink, smoke and take viagra) and complain at how unhealthy weight training is (add every sport along with bodybuilding too)

again it's a bodybuilding board and like the saying goes that people see all the time, love it or leave it,,,
well if you don't respect/love bodybuilding then shut the fuk up and get the fuk out.
Could nt be bothered reading

please sum up in 1 or 2 sentences

regards
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on February 05, 2010, 04:38:53 AM
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Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Lion666 on February 05, 2010, 04:56:40 AM
Could nt be bothered reading

please sum up in 1 or 2 sentences

regards


"well if you don't respect/love bodybuilding then shut the fuk up and get the fuk out."

regards
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Whiskey on February 05, 2010, 05:39:42 AM

"well if you don't respect/love bodybuilding then shut the fuk up and get the fuk out."

regards
Thank you
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: RC on February 05, 2010, 05:43:33 AM
The Lion has spoken!
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: BayGBM on February 05, 2010, 07:06:56 AM
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:'(  :'(
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: mossel on February 05, 2010, 07:37:12 AM
No drugs... all natural!!!

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Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: gh2 on February 05, 2010, 08:32:36 AM
it's stuff like this thats makes people sick,,,
people that are into the sport and yes it's a sport and no need for some internet copy & paste genius to post a wiki or websters definition on what a sport is.  any competitor in any sport will tell you competition is the sport.  when your up on stage posing to display your strengths and hide your weakness while trying to get your opponent to show his weakness, thats skill and competition... and guess what so is the training,,, when your working on bringing up your weaknesses while the other guy is trying too as well,,, well thats competition,,, thats what any sport is all about.  ask anyone that plays a pro sport, any sport... and being that this is a bodybuilding board ask anyone who's competed or just loves/respects the sport.
as far as this veiled question by hammer,,, i'd expect more from someone whos been a member of this board so long...  you really need someone besides yourself to influence your son a his direction,,, lol.  yes like bob's or any pro answer would help your authority as a parent,,, further more, if you can't use your head and determine how many use well, that's silly.  if you think any pro,,, that makes his living to support himself and possibly his own family that would say anything to hurt his chances to continue making money in this profession again,,, silly.

the people that knock this sport and the athletes,,,, yes they, we are... especially the pro's are ridiculous, this is a bodybuilding board,,, if you don't love/respect or understand this sport/lifestyle then go somewhere else,,, it's baffling that people mock everything about bodybuilding yet they visit and post on this board all day everyday.  you get guys not even members for a year with thousands of post already and they mock all the time,,, clearly since those people have no respect for bb'n then it's obvious they are only here for one reason,,, that's to look at men with muscles and that in the business is considered a schmoe... which is fine,,, there are gay people in every field in all walks of life,,, in every sport too,,, nfl, nba, mlb... I could care less,,, oh wait,,, now I care less. lol

as far as this silly question again....  best not have any kid intend to get into any sport with intentions on being a pro because drugs will be part of the game,,, what ever it is.  bb'n may just have a wider range of types but who knows what people do behind closed doors and again,,, who cares.  it's more noble to get out of work and go to the bar and drink for a lifetime,,, than use performance enhancers to aid in a change in appearance of aid in being better at a pro sport in which someone makes a living,,, again if any one was being hurt it would be the athlete themselves instead of other businesses where others may be hurt.  it's more noble to take a drug and aid in sex performance because after a lifetime of being sedentary and drinking after work everyday killed a libido and made it impossible to perform natural acts,,, thats ok,,, along with cosmetic surgery. lol

i been a member since 03 - 04 because i love and respect the sport of bodybuilding and live it everyday, i love to lift weights, it's more interesting to me than watching tv or talking about cars, i rather build myself real american muscle and up my own performance/horsepower than buying it and owning it psuedo style in some machine... i may not use any illegal aas but i am not disillusioned to what happens in this or any sport, nor would i criticize anyone that does, especially for making a living.  as conseco let everyone know,,, every sport, mlb, nba, nfl, etc. have them....  and of course in all walks of life,,, even yes, even doctors and lawyers drink smoke and use rec. drugs, but rec. drug use seems to be accepted by most people on here so guess they get a pass except roid users, lynch them...  

sure i may go to other sites but getbig is number one, everyone knows that... its an escape and form of entertainment, again i'd rather lift weights than watch tv,,,, so it's tough to lift all day,,, brutal on the joints so when i get a break its cool to look at or listen to stuff that's involved with the sport and it's nice to discuss with people that share the same  respect for bb'n and weight training,,, brothers and siters in iron kinda thing.

further more,,, what ever the political , religous , moral ideas of people are even professions,,, who cares, it's a bb'n board, now this is the gossip & opinions sections of a bodybuilding webiste, so mostly all post will have some bb connotations, which is why most people visit this site.
we used to have more pros here (jay cutler was starting to post a few times but we know how that went)but too many knocked and mocked them so they left,,, questions like state the obvious, such as whats your cycle (meaning, hurt your income to satisfy some internet genious that wants to seem "in the know" and aloof to bb'n, meanwhile they're on a bb'n website, duh)  like any nfl, nba or mlb player would ever take time to post on a board and talk with fan/followers of their respective sport.  that's why its so censored at md because to keep the pros there,,, you have to weed out the moronic posts.  and it's good business to have fan/followers to be able to interact with the pros and stars of the sport.  surely more pros would post here but adults and adult conversation is very scarce at gb...  another point, I posted a serious training question to bob chick a while back and know what,,, he replied with a serious answer,,, which is cool.  think anyone would ask maurice jones drew on how to get a quicker 40 time at the combine and see if he'd tell you ( he may don't know him, lol but theres not really a forum like here ie, nfl g&o ) diffferent than asking, hey bob post your stack, which really means hurt your career and the sport and people mock/knock him for not doing so.  ::)  no mlb player would tell either... bob gets more credit than mcguire,,, at least bob admitted... yet again he gets mocked, lol

or how many gays were at the last show,,,, again stating the obvious... if anyone cares about someones sexual preference,,, thats sad....
and everyone knows about the guy that like to comment on other sexuality,,, it's speaks volumes of their own,,, that is fact.
it's like that no homo sh!t,,, for a while it was funny but after a while all the time it begins to lose laughs and if people really feel the need to defend their "manhood" or st8ness well guess what... lol from another thread,,, alpha don't need to justify  ;)
so to the op,,, since your looking for guidance on how to raise your son from people on an internet bodybuilding website because you don't want him doing drugs and you think bob chick will help influence him, well maybe it's better to not have in invloved in any sports because if he ever has any intentions on choosing a journey to become pro, welll surely drugs will be somewhere along that road for any sport... and being as you don't wany him to take any drugs well guessing you mean rec. drugs too so you might as well home tutor him being public school and worse private schools are flooded with them.
so if you were serious with your thread post this oughtta help you or if you were just being facetious this oughtta help too  ;)

so many on this board are johnny come latley and think they a super internet genious with a degree in copy & pasting, with their witt in kncocking and mocking a sport, again yes it's a sport and unless your involved with the business or competed you have no idea or frame of reference to give a reasonable opinion... people like this that have no respect or love for the sport are just looking to have people think they're smarter than they are when in reality to the poeple involved in this business, in one way or another, to us you are ridiculous.  and technically,,, if you don't love/respect weight training and bb'n then you just come to this site to... cum and look at scantily clad muscle men and that is a term known in the business as a "schmoe" and your reason for mocking the sport and competitors is now clear,,, your jealous you don't have bodies as such and you are mad at your own sexuality and feel inferior with your partner (whether it's a women or man) because you know your partner wishes and would leave you for someone with a better build than you.  so schmoe it up and mock people that go compete for that "plastic trophy", knock those that use ped's (don't forget to mock those that drink, smoke and take viagra) and complain at how unhealthy weight training is (add every sport along with bodybuilding too)

again it's a bodybuilding board and like the saying goes that people see all the time, love it or leave it,,,
well if you don't respect/love bodybuilding then shut the fuk up and get the fuk out.

Excellent post, Lion666!
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: liquid_c on February 05, 2010, 08:47:58 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how many people supposedly think bodybuilding is gay.  Full of drug addicted losers, etc yet they spend TREMENDOUS amounts of time on this board.  Be like me saying, god ice skating is only to cheer for men in tights skating around.  It's so gay and a bunch of losers, but yet spend all my free time posting on an ice skating board. 

I'm also surprised Bob still sticks around.  If I were him I would have left a long time ago and never returned.  There was a time when several pro's would post on here but left because of all the stupidity. 
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: The_Punisher on February 05, 2010, 08:59:38 AM
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holy shit, what Happened?......he must have gave up on bodybuilding entirely...
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 05, 2010, 09:00:34 AM

holy shit, what Happened?......he must have gave up on bodybuilding entirely...

"Only" the drugs.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Lion666 on February 05, 2010, 09:20:34 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how many people supposedly think bodybuilding is gay.  Full of drug addicted losers, etc yet they spend TREMENDOUS amounts of time on this board.  that's because they're really schmoes, the best part is they think no one realises, or if they bash enough they can hide, jealous, or they're angry at themselves for being schmoes.   Be like me saying, god ice skating is only to cheer for men in tights skating around.  It's so gay and a bunch of losers, but yet spend all my free time posting on an ice skating board.  qft
I'm also surprised Bob still sticks around.  If I were him I would have left a long time ago and never returned.  There was a time when several pro's would post on here but left because of all the stupidity. exactly,,, who cares what his political, religous, sexual views are, really, anyone that does care is sad,,, unless it has to do with bb'n, i could care less than less...  and for those stupid prods about athletes rep stuff,,, he's diplomatic because it's his job,,, it's how he makes money,,, there are so many people that bow down at their respective jobs, yet they don't get mocked but because bob doesn't air ifbb dirty laundry or take sides against ifbb, he's knocked for it,,, it's ridiculous. really sad.  controversy and opinions are great,,, it'd be better if more pros were added to the conversation but it's mostly futile for them to post here, again, sad.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Lion666 on February 05, 2010, 09:25:32 AM
"Only" the drugs.

some guys only train when they're "on" and won't bother lifting unless they use... i don't understand it,,, don't agree with it,,, thats why i think the pros of yesteryear had love for the training and the drugs came 2nd,,, some people though don't...

that's why cream rises to the top,,, and that guy mustafa, never was mr.o, no matter how close he came.  now i dont know his story, maybe he got sick, couldn't train, what ev... or maybe he was just one of those guys that won't lift unless he was "on"...
anyone know what the deal is with him...?
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on February 05, 2010, 09:27:58 AM
some guys only train when they're "on" and won't bother lifting unless they use... i don't understand it,,, don't agree with it,,, thats why i think the pros of yesteryear had love for the training and the drugs came 2nd,,, some people though don't...

that's why cream rises to the top,,, and that guy mustafa, never was mr.o, no matter how close he came.  now i dont know his story, maybe he got sick, couldn't train, what ev... or maybe he was just one of those guys that won't lift unless he was "on"...
anyone know what the deal is with him...?

I agree with this. I guess a guy like Dorian was training (and still trains) like an animal even without drugs or with much less than what he used to do. It actually did show even when compared to other Bbers who used as much as he did but did not have the same work ethic. A lot of Bbers just rely on their stack and that's it.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: gh2 on February 05, 2010, 09:41:49 AM
I agree with this. I guess a guy like Dorian was training (and still trains) like an animal even without drugs or with much less than what he used to do. It actually did show even when compared to other Bbers who used as much as he did but did not have the same work ethic. A lot of Bbers just rely on their stack and that's it.

Yeah, that's why some people who really love the sport and have good work ethics (like Dorian) are much more respected then those who don't.
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: HDPhysiques on February 06, 2010, 12:15:35 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how many people supposedly think bodybuilding is gay.  Full of drug addicted losers, etc yet they spend TREMENDOUS amounts of time on this board.  Be like me saying, god ice skating is only to cheer for men in tights skating around.  It's so gay and a bunch of losers, but yet spend all my free time posting on an ice skating board. 

I'm also surprised Bob still sticks around.  If I were him I would have left a long time ago and never returned.  There was a time when several pro's would post on here but left because of all the stupidity. 

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Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: ag2 on February 06, 2010, 12:23:33 PM
Yeah, even though I don't always agree with Chic I have to give him props for sticking around and being available to the fans.  Also it is clear that this thread was started with the intent of someone being an ass, it is obvious that 100 percent of pros use drugs so why even bring it up unless you are trying to start shit, 

Also if you come to this board just to knock BB then the question should be asked why do you waste time bashing something that is a fringe sport, is your life that empty?
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: TRIX on February 06, 2010, 02:29:45 PM
natural
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not natural
(http://www.ronnie-coleman.org/pictures/ronnie-coleman-6.jpg)
(http://www.vseosportu.unas.cz/coleman.jpg)

its only 5 percent of the drugs
Title: Re: What Percentage of IFBB Pros Use Steroids?
Post by: Nirvana on February 06, 2010, 02:48:45 PM
Ronnie Coleman is 100% natural and has never resorted to steroids ;)

you don't need steroids just use a bunch of synthol, no one will notice