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Title: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 02:23:16 PM
heard the backstory today about this on the radio, in the early days of barry when he tried to sorround him self with different types of people , he chose the name"had a name change" to have a more powerful effect, just like when i created johnny falcon having a consciously crippiling effect on people who did not know me. Barry is a smart man much like me but see how the country is going down the tubes with "unnexpected" increase in demands for unemployment benefits and "........." threatening that the US credits rating will go down the tube within a couple years or less since we just print money to pay our debts because no one else is giving us mo money

his new name certainly has a more gripping, controlling effect on the masses of gullibites out there

interesting as i use my falcon introspective i can easily decode Barry Soetoro's name

Barry=y rrab= "WHY ROB"

Soetoro= orot eos= " OH ROT US"
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 02:29:05 PM
Poor white trash has harmed this country more than any demographic in United States history.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 02:30:18 PM
Poor white trash has harmed this country more than any demographic in United States history.

Youll never get a job offer from a poor man

obamo is suffercating small buisness men who make 200,000

this causes small buisness to hold tight or lay off people and hold onto what they got
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 02:36:01 PM
face it adonis u have no ammunition your holding onto barak like an old girlfriend

its a shame u dont have 106.1 the rush in your area so you can actually say something smart when it comes to politics
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 02:36:16 PM
heard the backstory today about this on the radio, in the early days of barry when he tried to sorround him self with different types of people , he chose the name"had a name change" to have a more powerful effect, just like when i created johnny falcon having a consciously crippiling effect on people who did not know me. Barry is a smart man much like me but see how the country is going down the tubes with "unnexpected" increase in demands for unemployment benefits and "........." threatening that the US credits rating will go down the tube within a couple years or less since we just print money to pay our debts because no one else is giving us mo money

his new name certainly has a more gripping, controlling effect on the masses of gullibites out there

interesting as i use my falcon introspective i can easily decode Barry Soetoro's name

Barry=y rrab= "WHY ROB"

Soetoro= orot eos= " OH ROT US"

"Barak Barry Huissan Soetoro Obama" or as his friends call him "Hugo" but you can just call him "Bernie" as in Madoff.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 02:36:24 PM
Youll never get a job offer from a poor man

obamo is suffercating small buisness men who make 200,000

this causes small buisness to hold tight or lay off people and hold onto what they got
No he isn`t and 98 percent of small businesses make under 250,000 dollars profit.

Hope this helps.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/oct/16/barack-obama/most-small-businesses-wont-be-subject-to-obamas-ta/

Most small businesses won't be subject to Obama's tax increases


During the final presidential debate in Hempstead, N.Y., Barack Obama and John McCain got into an argument about Joe the Plumber.

McCain said Joe would get a bigger tax bill under the Obama tax plan. Obama defended himself by saying that "98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000" and would not see a tax increase under the Obama plan.

Joe the Plumber is an actual person: Joe Wurzelbacher, who met Obama during a campaign stop a few days before the debate in Toledo, Ohio.

"I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000, $270,000, $280,000 a year," he told Obama. "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?"

Obama said yes, it would --see their entire conversation on YouTube -- but Obama defended his tax policy as being good for people who are struggling.

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance at success, too," Obama said.

During the debate, John McCain mentioned Joe the Plumber at least a dozen times as the kind of small business owner who would pay more taxes under Obama's plans.

It's not clear from the exchange just what Joe means when he says the business "makes" up to $280,000 a year. Is he talking about total revenue? Profits? That's an important point here and it's one that Obama and Joe the Plumber never discussed. Based on Obama's proposals and current tax policy, for Joe's taxes to rise Joe would have to "make" $250,000 in net profit, after deducting all his expenses: his employees' pay, his supplies, his truck, his fuel costs, and other legitimate business expenses. He'd have to be an extremely successful plumber.

In response to McCain's statements during the debate, Obama said only 2 percent of small businesses would be subject to the tax.

It seems likely that Obama is right, according to data and an analysis from the experts at the Tax Policy Center.

Obama's plan is to roll back the Bush tax cuts on the top two tax brackets. In practice, this means that people with income above $200,000 for single people and $250,000 for couples would see taxes increase.

Now what does this mean for small businesses? It's not as easy as you might think to identify small businesses via the tax code. But there are several typical ways that small business owners pay their taxes, usually by declaring business income on their individual tax returns. Many people who declare business income are small businesses, though the group also includes professionals like lawyers, authors, or public speakers.

Looking at all the tax filers who report any business income at all, the Tax Policy Center confirms that about 2 percent will see their taxes increase under Obama's plan.

In an effort to focus more effectively on small business owners, the Tax Policy Center did an additional analysis where they looked at people who reported business income that accounted for at least 50 percent of their income. This means people who derive a significant living off their business income.

In 2007, about 2 percent of those tax filers would have made enough money to see a tax increase under Obama's plans.

There is a small bit of uncertainty in the best data available; it includes some people who we would not think of as traditional small business owners. But still, Obama's statement during the debate that "98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000" matches the findings of a respected, non-partisan group of tax analysts. For that reason, we rate Obama's statement True.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 02:37:37 PM
face it adonis u have no ammunition your holding onto barak like an old girlfriend

its a shame u dont have 106.1 the rush in your area so you can actually say something smart when it comes to politics
Facts and evidence prove you wrong, Paintcan.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 02:38:21 PM
No he isn`t and 98 percent of small businesses make under 250,000 dollars profit.

Hope this helps.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/oct/16/barack-obama/most-small-businesses-wont-be-subject-to-obamas-ta/

Most small businesses won't be subject to Obama's tax increases


During the final presidential debate in Hempstead, N.Y., Barack Obama and John McCain got into an argument about Joe the Plumber.

McCain said Joe would get a bigger tax bill under the Obama tax plan. Obama defended himself by saying that "98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000" and would not see a tax increase under the Obama plan.

Joe the Plumber is an actual person: Joe Wurzelbacher, who met Obama during a campaign stop a few days before the debate in Toledo, Ohio.

"I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000, $270,000, $280,000 a year," he told Obama. "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?"

Obama said yes, it would --see their entire conversation on YouTube -- but Obama defended his tax policy as being good for people who are struggling.

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance at success, too," Obama said.

During the debate, John McCain mentioned Joe the Plumber at least a dozen times as the kind of small business owner who would pay more taxes under Obama's plans.

It's not clear from the exchange just what Joe means when he says the business "makes" up to $280,000 a year. Is he talking about total revenue? Profits? That's an important point here and it's one that Obama and Joe the Plumber never discussed. Based on Obama's proposals and current tax policy, for Joe's taxes to rise Joe would have to "make" $250,000 in net profit, after deducting all his expenses: his employees' pay, his supplies, his truck, his fuel costs, and other legitimate business expenses. He'd have to be an extremely successful plumber.

In response to McCain's statements during the debate, Obama said only 2 percent of small businesses would be subject to the tax.

It seems likely that Obama is right, according to data and an analysis from the experts at the Tax Policy Center.

Obama's plan is to roll back the Bush tax cuts on the top two tax brackets. In practice, this means that people with income above $200,000 for single people and $250,000 for couples would see taxes increase.

Now what does this mean for small businesses? It's not as easy as you might think to identify small businesses via the tax code. But there are several typical ways that small business owners pay their taxes, usually by declaring business income on their individual tax returns. Many people who declare business income are small businesses, though the group also includes professionals like lawyers, authors, or public speakers.

Looking at all the tax filers who report any business income at all, the Tax Policy Center confirms that about 2 percent will see their taxes increase under Obama's plan.

In an effort to focus more effectively on small business owners, the Tax Policy Center did an additional analysis where they looked at people who reported business income that accounted for at least 50 percent of their income. This means people who derive a significant living off their business income.

In 2007, about 2 percent of those tax filers would have made enough money to see a tax increase under Obama's plans.

There is a small bit of uncertainty in the best data available; it includes some people who we would not think of as traditional small business owners. But still, Obama's statement during the debate that "98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000" matches the findings of a respected, non-partisan group of tax analysts. For that reason, we rate Obama's statement True.

I see you're about to get seriously PWNED.........again!
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 02:44:09 PM
No he isn`t and 98 percent of small businesses make under 250,000 dollars profit.

Hope this helps.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/oct/16/barack-obama/most-small-businesses-wont-be-subject-to-obamas-ta/

Most small businesses won't be subject to Obama's tax increases


During the final presidential debate in Hempstead, N.Y., Barack Obama and John McCain got into an argument about Joe the Plumber.

McCain said Joe would get a bigger tax bill under the Obama tax plan. Obama defended himself by saying that "98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000" and would not see a tax increase under the Obama plan.

Joe the Plumber is an actual person: Joe Wurzelbacher, who met Obama during a campaign stop a few days before the debate in Toledo, Ohio.

"I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000, $270,000, $280,000 a year," he told Obama. "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?"

Obama said yes, it would --see their entire conversation on YouTube -- but Obama defended his tax policy as being good for people who are struggling.

"It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance at success, too," Obama said.

During the debate, John McCain mentioned Joe the Plumber at least a dozen times as the kind of small business owner who would pay more taxes under Obama's plans.

It's not clear from the exchange just what Joe means when he says the business "makes" up to $280,000 a year. Is he talking about total revenue? Profits? That's an important point here and it's one that Obama and Joe the Plumber never discussed. Based on Obama's proposals and current tax policy, for Joe's taxes to rise Joe would have to "make" $250,000 in net profit, after deducting all his expenses: his employees' pay, his supplies, his truck, his fuel costs, and other legitimate business expenses. He'd have to be an extremely successful plumber.

In response to McCain's statements during the debate, Obama said only 2 percent of small businesses would be subject to the tax.

It seems likely that Obama is right, according to data and an analysis from the experts at the Tax Policy Center.

Obama's plan is to roll back the Bush tax cuts on the top two tax brackets. In practice, this means that people with income above $200,000 for single people and $250,000 for couples would see taxes increase.

Now what does this mean for small businesses? It's not as easy as you might think to identify small businesses via the tax code. But there are several typical ways that small business owners pay their taxes, usually by declaring business income on their individual tax returns. Many people who declare business income are small businesses, though the group also includes professionals like lawyers, authors, or public speakers.

Looking at all the tax filers who report any business income at all, the Tax Policy Center confirms that about 2 percent will see their taxes increase under Obama's plan.

In an effort to focus more effectively on small business owners, the Tax Policy Center did an additional analysis where they looked at people who reported business income that accounted for at least 50 percent of their income. This means people who derive a significant living off their business income.

In 2007, about 2 percent of those tax filers would have made enough money to see a tax increase under Obama's plans.

There is a small bit of uncertainty in the best data available; it includes some people who we would not think of as traditional small business owners. But still, Obama's statement during the debate that "98 percent of small businesses make less than $250,000" matches the findings of a respected, non-partisan group of tax analysts. For that reason, we rate Obama's statement True.
then how come there isnt any liberal talk radio and why is FOX wich is "FAIR MEDIA" number one and shawn hannity and Glen beck and rush are 1 2 and 3 in most veiwed

FOX IS NUMBER ONE IN MOST WATCH, people are not stupid maybe gullible but not stupid thats why they have gravitated to fair media outlets FOX IS FAIR MEDIA

there isnt a liberal talk show because they cant argue a point and when they do there liberal rederick gets shot down on air WITH FACTS

this is why cnn msnbc and others ARE FAILING BECAUSE THEY PUSH THE LIBERAL AGENDA WITH REDERICK

face it adonis ur "guys" cant even run a radio show because they know they would get exposed and embarassed


this whole cut and paste is just rederick id have to research the place where u got it from to see if it wasnt biased or not more than likely your point is wrong because if it was right it someone would call into rush limbaugh or shawn hannity or glen beck and embarass them


Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 02:47:41 PM
then how come there isnt any liberal talk radio and why is FOX wich is "FAIR MEDIA" number one and shawn hannity and Glen beck and rush are 1 2 and 3 in most veiwed

FOX IS NUMBER ONE IN MOST WATCH, people are not stupid maybe gullible but not stupid thats why they have gravitated to fair media outlets FOX IS FAIR MEDIA

there isnt a liberal talk show because they cant argue a point and when they do there liberal rederick gets shot down on air WITH FACTS

this is why cnn msnbc and others ARE FAILING BECAUSE THEY PUSH THE LIBERAL AGENDA WITH REDERICK

face it adonis ur "guys" cant even run a radio show because they know they would get exposed and embarassed


this whole cut and paste is just rederick id have to research the place where u got it from to see if it wasnt biased or not


American Idol is the number one rated television show along with So you think you can Dance.

Ratings have nothing to do with content.  If you put on a program about Einstein`s Special Relativity, nobody would watch it.

If ratings say anything, it goes to show the collective stupidity amongst Americans.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 02:49:16 PM
WATCH AND LISTEN TO SHAWN HANNITY CALL IN STUPID ADONIS IF YOU THINK YOUR TALKING POINT HOLDS TRUE WITCH IT WONT YOU GET YOUR FACTS FROM LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE MEDIA MORE THAN LIKEY

you see this is why glen beck and others are so popular because they base there arguments off of FACTS

your just a clown who posts on a bodybuiding board, if your arguments held any weight im sure i wouldve heard it on the top 5 political shows you sorry peice of shit
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 02:51:34 PM
American Idol is the number one rated television show along with So you think you can Dance.

Ratings have nothing to do with content.  If you put on a program about Einstein`s Special Relativity, nobody would watch it.

If ratings say anything, it goes to show the collective stupidity amongst Americans.
i said top 5 keep omitting facts

rush limbaugh shawn hannity and glenn beck hold the top spots , people want FAIR MEDIA

people dont like to be burried or rely on  cut and paste arguments to support there side THATS WHY THEY CALL INTO TALK RADIO YOU SORRY LOSER LOL


this is why they dont have bulletin board media for shits like you who sit down all fucking day because it takes time for you to find the lies, but you could never back up your lies. Hell u should make a name for youself by calling in. people try to ALL THE TIME WITH THERE LIBERAL TALKING POINTS BUT THEY FAIL MISERABLEY EVERYTIME BECAUSE THERE TALKING POINTS SEEM SOLID UP FRONT BUT FAIL IN HONESTY
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 02:53:29 PM
WATCH AND LISTEN TO SHAWN HANNITY CALL IN STUPID ADONIS IF YOU THINK YOUR TALKING POINT HOLDS TRUE WITCH IT WONT YOU GET YOUR FACTS FROM LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE MEDIA MORE THAN LIKEY

you see this is why glen beck and others are so popular because they base there arguments off of FACTS

your just a clown who posts on a bodybuiding board, if your arguments held any weight im sure i wouldve heard it on the top 5 political shows you sorry peice of shit
Wrong Redneck Paintcan,

Beck himself tells his horribly irrational and uneducated audience not to believe him.  Furthermore, your heroes have been proven false many time over just as you have been.

I am sorry if you think Facts have a liberal bias, but evidence and facts are just that.

Paintcan, you don`t know the difference between a fact and an opinion.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 02:56:10 PM
i said top 5 keep omitting facts

rush limbaugh shawn hannity and glenn beck hold the top spots , people want FAIR MEDIA

people dont like to be burried or rely on  cut and paste arguments to support there side THATS WHY THEY CALL INTO TALK RADIO YOU SORRY LOSER LOL
Top 5 what?  Ratings don`t mean a thing.  As I said American Idol is the top rated television week after week.  This surely says nothing of the factual content or the validity of the program.

The majority opinion used to be that the world was 6000 years old and flat.  How did that end up working out?
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 02:57:37 PM
Wrong Redneck Paintcan,

Beck himself tells his horribly irrational and uneducated audience not to believe him.  Furthermore, your heroes have been proven false many time over just as you have been.

I am sorry if you think Facts have a liberal bias, but evidence and facts are just that.

Paintcan, you don`t know the difference between a fact and an opinion.

none of them have been proven wrong do you even listen to his show, do you think he would undermine his beleifs that are factual, that would kill his ratings

you are a complete fool

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 03:03:38 PM
Top 5 what?  Ratings don`t mean a thing.  As I said American Idol is the top rated television week after week.  This surely says nothing of the factual content or the validity of the program.

The majority opinion used to be that the world was 6000 years old and flat.  How did that end up working out?

people have gravited from biased media "cnn msnbc" to fair media "FOX", that is a fact

fair media is more entertaining too by the way

no one wants to hear biased liberal talk all day not even the liberals LOL

ADONIS IF YOU WERE IN THE RIGHT OR RIGHTEOUS DONT YOU THINK THE LIBERALS WOULD HAVE A VERY POPULAR  FAIR MEDIA FORMAT PLATFORM THAT THEY COULD OPERATE ON?

i enjoy hearing both sides argued but this only happens in fair media outlets

People wont watch a network  that shuts out there honest voices, thats why liberal media fails because they know they are in the wrong

so wheres your liberal talk shows mr dumbass adonis? ???well THERE ARENT ANY BECAUSE YOUR ARGUMENT IS ALL LIES and once exposed they would be quickly usherd  off air because it would be an embarassment, YOU LITTLE homo :)
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 03:06:14 PM
TA, I don't know where in the hell your info is getting their info, but its NOT $250k in profit but rather $250k in gross reciepts/sales. Quit trying to spin this. You got owned when this clown was elected.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 03:06:36 PM
none of them have been proven wrong do you even listen to his show, do you think he would undermine his beleifs that are factual, that would kill his ratings

you are a complete fool


ROFLMAO
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 03:08:28 PM
ROFLMAO


Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Tapeworm on February 04, 2010, 03:09:13 PM
 :o

(http://www.wildhunt.org/uploaded_images/clash_of_the_titans-747640.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 03:13:28 PM
:o

(http://www.wildhunt.org/uploaded_images/clash_of_the_titans-747640.jpg)
The Gorgon of stupidity that is Paintcan certainly makes it effortless for a blade of reason to cut his irrational arguments off at the nape.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: dov on February 04, 2010, 03:19:29 PM
Epic internets cage fight battle between 2 Norf Kakalaki rednecks...oh brother, Barry don't care bout no white trash in hillbilly land
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 03:20:20 PM


ROLFMAO
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 03:21:55 PM
Epic internets cage fight battle between 2 Norf Kakalaki rednecks...oh brother, Barry don't care bout no white trash in hillbilly land
From what I remember, you are the one who is destitute.  In fact, so poor that you did not even take your free trip to meet Mindspin and Dr. Connelly because you stated you didn`t have the money to do so.  :-\

Just saying Dov.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 03:29:02 PM
ROFLMAO


Thats why its fair media they admit when they are wrong wich is RARE( whats that 1 time out of thousands of hours on broadcast?) and its also why FOX is number 1 because they are honest

your gettin all hyped up for nothing you peice of shit
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 03:40:33 PM
Thats why its fair media they admit when they are wrong wich is RARE( whats that 1 time out of thousands of hours on broadcast?) and its also why FOX is number 1 because they are honest

your gettin all hyped up for nothing you peice of shit
Wrong.  Their ratings are not indicative of honesty or content validity.  There is no correlation between high ratings and honesty or validity.  

To suggest so is pure ignorance.  The theory that the earth was flat and 6000 years old had high ratings but that did not make it true.  Human Slavery had high ratings for quite a long time, but that didn`t make the whole process fair or honest.
Hopefully we can at least contain your stupidity in just own body and mind.  It is doubtful anybody even remotely follows you for any educational reason.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 03:49:14 PM
Wrong.  Their ratings are not indicative of honesty or content validity.  There is no correlation between high ratings and honesty or validity.  

To suggest so is pure ignorance.  The theory that the earth was flat and 6000 years old had high ratings but that did not make it true.  Human Slavery had high ratings for quite a long time, but that didn`t make the whole process fair or honest.
Hopefully we can at least contain your stupidity in just own body and mind.  It is doubtful anybody even remotely follows you for any educational reason.

if they werent honest they would get called out on it, do you realize rush, glen beck, mark llevin, and shawn hannity have talk radio for a FEW LONG HOURS 5 days a week? HOW MUCH OPPORTUNITY IS THIS FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO CALL IN AND PROVE THEM WRONG? People that are completley retarted LIKE YOU call in ALL THE TIME with your same talking points, but always get reasoned to a fault, no argument goes unsettled on air , they would lose there following if they just resorted to name calling and said IM RIGHT CAUSE I SAID SO without facts
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 03:54:29 PM
Trust me adonis you are not alone, there is a large mass of idiots just like you trying to get a point across but on an open forum people like you just look foolish, why dont you call into one of there shows and make a name for your facts  ::)

all i want is honesty, thats why i listen to these shows because they have honest discussions

this is also why again there isnt any liberal talk shows like this, because they dont have enough facts to make there movement look righteous to the masses


even if you were in the right dont you think theyd have alot of fair media liberal based shows to prove there point ? this is why the liberal media is failing miserably
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 03:57:44 PM
if they werent honest they would get called out on it, do you realize rush, glen beck, mark llevin, and shawn hannity have talk radio for a FEW LONG HOURS 5 days a week? HOW MUCH OPPORTUNITY IS THIS FOR SOMEONE LIKE YOU TO CALL IN AND PROVE THEM WRONG? People that are completley retarted LIKE YOU call in ALL THE TIME with your same talking points, but always get reasoned to a fault, no argument goes unsettled on air , they would lose there following if they just resorted to name calling and said IM RIGHT CAUSE I SAID SO without facts

They get called out ALL THE TIME.  Surely you aren`t that dull or are you freely admitting you are just deaf, blind and dumb?

Furthermore, do you realize that they have call screeners?  I have called in to Alan Colmes radio show a few times and when you do, you speak to a screener.  The same goes for all radio shows.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 03:59:10 PM
ROFLMAO!

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:00:46 PM
ROLFMAO!

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: che on February 04, 2010, 04:01:26 PM
Two types of Republicans:
1)  The rich who will vote their pocketbook. At least these guys are honest. .
2)The ignorant proles, who can't think for themselves and are easily controlled with totally made-up lies and propaganda.

 Failcan ,check this out your boy Glenn Beck ,HAhaaaa

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 04:02:01 PM
ROFLMAO!



and this proves what jackass?

you want to give rights to terrorists that say more terrorists are coming? you dont want to interrogate or waterboard to save 1000's of lives you pathetic person
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2010, 04:02:18 PM
They get called out ALL THE TIME.  Surely you aren`t that dull or are you freely admitting you are just deaf, blind and dumb?

Furthermore, do you realize that they have call screeners?  I have called in to Alan Colmes radio show a few times and when you do, you speak to a screener.  The same goes for all radio shows.

TA, are you a fan of Thom Hartmann or Alex Bennett?

I used to listen to them quite regularly on Sirius Satellite radio.

There was also a New York woman who ran a morning show but after Hilary lost the primary it seems like all she wanted to do was bitch about Obama.

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:04:37 PM
ROFLMAO!

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 04:07:10 PM
ROLFMAO!



all u can type is "ROLFMAO" but what is your POINT in the video? where is RUSH dishonest

u can post vids all day that you havent even watched for yourself this is all the liberal media machine

again ur trying to drown me out by posting videos without specific points and answers

laughing and name calling , cut and paste arguments, and WHOLE VIDEOS  may look like your rhiteous only at FACE VALUE but your substance proves you have no ammunition
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:11:01 PM
and this proves what jackass?

you want to give rights to terrorists that say more terrorists are coming? you dont want to interrogate or waterboard to save 1000's of lives you pathetic person
Uh, torture has been PROVEN ineffective moreover it is against our Constitution and our history.  Our police force will not engage in it either as they know it is a worthless tactic.

Do you know what General George Washington did to his officers or soldiers if he found them torturing the British soldiers?  How is that for a precedent. (not that you know what that word means)

He would have them executed in front of everyone as an example.


JESSE VENTURA PWNING the SHIT out of Sean Hannity on his Show regarding Torture

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on February 04, 2010, 04:15:41 PM
They get called out ALL THE TIME.  Surely you aren`t that dull or are you freely admitting you are just deaf, blind and dumb?

Furthermore, do you realize that they have call screeners?  I have called in to Alan Colmes radio show a few times and when you do, you speak to a screener.  The same goes for all radio shows.

He did mention the other day his new habit of staring into the sun, Adam.  
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:15:53 PM
TA, are you a fan of Thom Hartmann or Alex Bennett?

I used to listen to them quite regularly on Sirius Satellite radio.

There was also a New York woman who ran a morning show but after Hilary lost the primary it seems like all she wanted to do was bitch about Obama.


Hartmann is good but I have to admit I am not a regular radio listener unless there is a guest that interests me.  I did get to talk to Gore Vidal once and that is something I will never forget.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: polychronopolous on February 04, 2010, 04:20:47 PM
Hartmann is good but I have to admit I am not a regular radio listener unless there is a guest that interests me.  I did get to talk to Gore Vidal once and that is something I will never forget.

Awesome!

Loved Gore Vidal on Bill Maher last year, always a great interview...Although I totally disagree with his take on the JFK assassination but that is a totally different conversation altogether....

I have radio listening habits similar to yours when it comes to The Hartmann show, I tried to catch the Friday Lunch with Bernie Sanders(I think that is what it was called) when my schedule permitted it.



Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:25:25 PM
Awesome!

Loved Gore Vidal on Bill Maher last year, always a great interview...Although I totally disagree with his take on the JFK assassination but that is a totally different conversation altogether....

I have radio listening habits similar to yours when it comes to The Hartmann show, I tried to catch the Friday Lunch with Bernie Sanders(I think that is what it was called) when my schedule permitted it.




Bernie Sanders is the greatest Senator and person in government we have today.  Only if we had more like him. 
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 04:25:35 PM
they all have call screeners they let you talk whethere lib or republican



torturing does work to get information out of terrorists rather then letting them go unscathed. you are not going to get information out of people by treating them kindly

better to torture to save 10000s of lives then risk one life
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 04:30:20 PM
ROFLMAO!



whats this prove nothing, plus whoever youtubed this edited out rushs response at 1:11

kinda ironic at 1:11 let the truth be told you rotten person
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Method101 on February 04, 2010, 04:31:19 PM
Obama's mother was a hot jew!  :D

(http://www.mofopolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/obama_stepfather.jpg)
(http://sxxxy.org/gallery/data/media/140/obamasmomnude.jpg)(http://incogman.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/porn-mom.jpg)
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 04:32:23 PM
Obama's mother was a hot jew!  :D

(http://www.mofopolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/obama_stepfather.jpg)
(http://sxxxy.org/gallery/data/media/140/obamasmomnude.jpg)

his dad also ran off to be a marxist/ radicalist
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on February 04, 2010, 04:37:16 PM
Now is that a photoshop or what?
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:38:43 PM
they all have call screeners they let you talk whethere lib or republican



torturing does work to get information out of terrorists rather then letting them go unscathed. you are not going to get information out of people by treating them kindly

better to torture to save 10000s of lives then risk one life
Ex-FBI Agent: Still No Evidence That Cheney’s Torture Methods Work
          By SPENCER ACKERMAN 8/31/09 6:59 PM
It’s been an amazing thing: faced with hundreds of pages of documents disclosed last week that explicitly state and thoroughly demonstrate that it’s unknown whether “enhanced interrogation” worked, all it takes for the press to ignore the record is for former Vice President Dick Cheney to bluster aggressively. After all, you know, reading documents is hard. And any blogger can do it!

If it’s first-hand accounts you want, then, here’s Mike Rolince. Rolince is a 31-year FBI veteran who retired from the bureau’s Washington, D.C., field office, where he worked on counterterrorism, in 2005. Both from experience in interrogations and from viewing the IG report, Rolince can’t believe that so-called “enhanced interrogation” techniques like waterboarding still have their defenders. “I’m just not a fan of them, and never have been a fan of them,” he told me. “I’ve never believed that it works, I don’t believe its been documented that it works, and I don’t believe we as a country should stoop to that, I don’t think we ought to be doing it. I just don’t think we need to do the untested, untrained and unreliable.”

Well, what then is tested, trained and reliable? “So many of these people are so uninformed when it comes to the capabilities of law enforcement and intelligence gathering,” he said, referring to torture advocates, some of whom — like Cheney — denigrate law enforcement approaches to counterterrorism. “What is it they think police officers and state troopers and [FBI] agents do successfully every day of the week? And have done for a hundred years? Investigations, interviews and interrogations.” The FBI’s track record of “confessions obtained [and] convictions obtained,” he said, speaks for itself.

Similarly, The Washington Post published a big story on Saturday claiming that torture transformed Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the architect of 9/11, into a font of information who gave seminars to U.S. officials on al-Qaeda. You can read Glenn Greenwald and Marcy Wheeler and Adam Serwer on various problems with the piece. But something The Post didn’t mention was how Scott Shane of The New York Times last year reported that Mohammed’s principal interlocutor was a CIA interrogator named Deuce Martinez. And Martinez used techniques rather similar to that of Rolince and his colleagues:

He chose to leave the infliction of pain and panic to others, the gung-ho paramilitary types whom the more cerebral interrogators called “knuckledraggers.”

Mr. Martinez came in after the rough stuff, the ultimate good cop with the classic skills: an unimposing presence, inexhaustible patience and a willingness to listen to the gripes and musings of a pitiless killer in rambling, imperfect English. He achieved a rapport with Mr. Mohammed that astonished his fellow C.I.A. officers.

A canny opponent, Mr. Mohammed mixed disinformation and braggadocio with details of plots, past and planned. Eventually, he grew loquacious. “They’d have long talks about religion,” comparing notes on Islam and Mr. Martinez’s Catholicism, one C.I.A. officer recalled. And, the officer added, there was one other detail no one could have predicted: “He wrote poems to Deuce’s wife.

This is a much more complex picture than the one The Post offered. It’s not to say that only the good-cop stuff worked, because that’s not proven in either Shane’s piece or the CIA IG report. But it is to say that it’s too simple and misleading to assert that the torture, against all experience with interrogations, worked. Indeed, when the CIA’s June 3, 2005 memo suggests that it was the non-torturing “debriefers” that unlocked reliable intelligence from detainees, it might be referring to people like Martinez.

“To say you had to use torture to get there, it’s not based on fact,” Rolince said. “And I don’t think these people [who advocate torture] are going back on what they believe, and that’s their right and their prerogative. But I don’t think the facts justify any of their conclusions and I don’t think history’s going to be very kind to them.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 04:40:47 PM
Ex-FBI Agent: Still No Evidence That Cheney’s Torture Methods Work
          By SPENCER ACKERMAN 8/31/09 6:59 PM
It’s been an amazing thing: faced with hundreds of pages of documents disclosed last week that explicitly state and thoroughly demonstrate that it’s unknown whether “enhanced interrogation” worked, all it takes for the press to ignore the record is for former Vice President Dick Cheney to bluster aggressively. After all, you know, reading documents is hard. And any blogger can do it!

If it’s first-hand accounts you want, then, here’s Mike Rolince. Rolince is a 31-year FBI veteran who retired from the bureau’s Washington, D.C., field office, where he worked on counterterrorism, in 2005. Both from experience in interrogations and from viewing the IG report, Rolince can’t believe that so-called “enhanced interrogation” techniques like waterboarding still have their defenders. “I’m just not a fan of them, and never have been a fan of them,” he told me. “I’ve never believed that it works, I don’t believe its been documented that it works, and I don’t believe we as a country should stoop to that, I don’t think we ought to be doing it. I just don’t think we need to do the untested, untrained and unreliable.”

Well, what then is tested, trained and reliable? “So many of these people are so uninformed when it comes to the capabilities of law enforcement and intelligence gathering,” he said, referring to torture advocates, some of whom — like Cheney — denigrate law enforcement approaches to counterterrorism. “What is it they think police officers and state troopers and [FBI] agents do successfully every day of the week? And have done for a hundred years? Investigations, interviews and interrogations.” The FBI’s track record of “confessions obtained [and] convictions obtained,” he said, speaks for itself.

Similarly, The Washington Post published a big story on Saturday claiming that torture transformed Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the architect of 9/11, into a font of information who gave seminars to U.S. officials on al-Qaeda. You can read Glenn Greenwald and Marcy Wheeler and Adam Serwer on various problems with the piece. But something The Post didn’t mention was how Scott Shane of The New York Times last year reported that Mohammed’s principal interlocutor was a CIA interrogator named Deuce Martinez. And Martinez used techniques rather similar to that of Rolince and his colleagues:

He chose to leave the infliction of pain and panic to others, the gung-ho paramilitary types whom the more cerebral interrogators called “knuckledraggers.”

Mr. Martinez came in after the rough stuff, the ultimate good cop with the classic skills: an unimposing presence, inexhaustible patience and a willingness to listen to the gripes and musings of a pitiless killer in rambling, imperfect English. He achieved a rapport with Mr. Mohammed that astonished his fellow C.I.A. officers.

A canny opponent, Mr. Mohammed mixed disinformation and braggadocio with details of plots, past and planned. Eventually, he grew loquacious. “They’d have long talks about religion,” comparing notes on Islam and Mr. Martinez’s Catholicism, one C.I.A. officer recalled. And, the officer added, there was one other detail no one could have predicted: “He wrote poems to Deuce’s wife.

This is a much more complex picture than the one The Post offered. It’s not to say that only the good-cop stuff worked, because that’s not proven in either Shane’s piece or the CIA IG report. But it is to say that it’s too simple and misleading to assert that the torture, against all experience with interrogations, worked. Indeed, when the CIA’s June 3, 2005 memo suggests that it was the non-torturing “debriefers” that unlocked reliable intelligence from detainees, it might be referring to people like Martinez.

“To say you had to use torture to get there, it’s not based on fact,” Rolince said. “And I don’t think these people [who advocate torture] are going back on what they believe, and that’s their right and their prerogative. But I don’t think the facts justify any of their conclusions and I don’t think history’s going to be very kind to them.

if i choked you adonis you would tell me what i wanted to hear , trust me little man  ;)

or if i held a gun to your head , you would tell me your entire life story

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:43:21 PM
if i choked you adonis you would tell me what i wanted to hear , trust me little man  ;)

or if i held a gun to your head , you would tell me your entire life story


Exactly. What you WANTED to hear instead of the truth.  That is precisely why torture is ineffective.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/06/opinion/06soufan.html?_r=2&partner=rss&emc=rss

PUBLIC bravado aside, the defenders of the so-called enhanced interrogation techniques are fast running out of classified documents to hide behind. The three that were released recently by the C.I.A. — the 2004 report by the inspector general and two memos from 2004 and 2005 on intelligence gained from detainees — fail to show that the techniques stopped even a single imminent threat of terrorism.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:44:51 PM
if i choked you adonis you would tell me what i wanted to hear , trust me little man  ;)

or if i held a gun to your head , you would tell me your entire life story


No. I would probably tell you what you WANTED to hear and not the truth.

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: che on February 04, 2010, 04:45:16 PM
if i choked you adonis you would tell me what i wanted to hear , trust me little man  ;)


You are an idiot , no doubt .
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 04, 2010, 04:45:53 PM
Where is Richard Nixon when you need him?
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 04:53:53 PM
ROFLMAO@ Paintcan thinking Hannity never lies.


Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Method101 on February 04, 2010, 04:58:36 PM
ROFLMAO!


Fuck off you pseudo intellectual left-wing girl.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 05:02:10 PM
Fuck off you pseudo intellectual left-wing ####.
Meltdown, you muscleless backwoods trailer-dweller.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 05:13:38 PM
ROFLMAO@ Paintcan thinking Hannity never lies.




Hey TA, Obama was out playing golf when that Muslim went on a shooting spree on that military base....after he heard about it, he kept right on playing. Any thing else you'd like me to own you on? Oh wait, jobs report came out today........ANOTHER 18,000 jobs LOST!
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 05:16:11 PM
ROFLMAO!



Hey TA, I can pull up the original transcript of that if you would like instead of a cut up left wing youtube. What do ya say?
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 05:16:43 PM
Hey TA, Obama was out playing golf when that Muslim went on a shooting spree on that military base....after he heard about it, he kept right on playing. Any thing else you'd like me to own you on? Oh wait, jobs report came out today........ANOTHER 18,000 jobs LOST!
I don`t care that Bush was playing golf, I was just pointing out the revisionist history that pervades FauxNoise.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 05:17:36 PM
Hey TA, I can pull up the original transcript of that if you would like instead of a cut up left wing youtube. What do ya say?
Sure go ahead.  Be sure to highlight any differences when you do so.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 05:18:29 PM
TA, I don't know where in the hell your info is getting their info, but its NOT $250k in profit but rather $250k in gross reciepts/sales. Quit trying to spin this. You got owned when this clown was elected.

Hey TA, you never commented on this....care to recant?
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 05:19:36 PM
Sure go ahead.  Be sure to highlight any differences when you do so.

When I pull up just f**king read it, do I have to do everything?
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 05:23:16 PM
When I pull up just f**king read it, do I have to do everything?
You are making the claim that there is a difference so I want you to highlight it or don`t bother posting it or don`t bother making the claim if you are not willing to prove it.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 05:24:45 PM
Hey TA, you never commented on this....care to recant?
There is nothing to recant whatsoever.  2 percent of Small business will be affected with the other 98 percent faring better in taxes than the previous year.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Method101 on February 04, 2010, 05:29:45 PM
Meltdown, you muscleless backwoods trailer-dweller.
Im taller, better looking and soon will have more muscle than you. Go down on Obongo's cock you little turd.

Here is a good video, unlike the shit you posted.  8)  :D
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 05:49:28 PM
Im taller, better looking and soon will have more muscle than you. Go down on Obongo's cock you little turd.

Here is a good video, unlike the shit you posted.  8)  :D

Why is that a better video?  You do realize what happened in Germany?
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: The True Adonis on February 04, 2010, 05:50:57 PM
Im taller, better looking and soon will have more muscle than you. Go down on Obongo's cock you little turd.

Here is a good video, unlike the shit you posted.  8)  :D

Furthermore, how does the Third Reich glorify your standing as white trash?  How do you benefit in other words?
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: MAXX on February 04, 2010, 05:59:14 PM
Hey TA, Obama was out playing golf when that Muslim went on a shooting spree on that military base....after he heard about it, he kept right on playing. Any thing else you'd like me to own you on? Oh wait, jobs report came out today........ANOTHER 18,000 jobs LOST!
the economic recession is is global, world wide. Has nothing to do with Obama dumbass. Things went to shit long before he got to be president..
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:04:26 PM
ROFLMAO@ Paintcan thinking Hannity never lies.




this was on the show today actually, its not like they are not airing this stuff. he gave an explanation about it today, he stood by his claim Today actually and also went into it in further detail
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:05:59 PM
No. I would probably tell you what you WANTED to hear and not the truth.



thats exactly  my point!

if he told me what i "wanted to hear" i would seek out his response and check for terrorists in A and B locations, if he was incorrect or lieing i would torture him till he told me the truth

this is what god will do to you if you lie to his face  :)
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: kimura on February 04, 2010, 06:07:33 PM
Dimethylformamide
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:08:43 PM
the economic recession is is global, world wide. Has nothing to do with Obama dumbass. Things went to shit long before he got to be president..

no we, the american people are in debt to the world orchestrated by our government

obama has increased the debt 1 trillion thats 999 billion in one year
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:11:16 PM
its said that the national debt if everyone were to take there fair share it would be 40,000 per person, to me thats cupcakes sure some hardwork but id help pay my fair share in a few years spread out easily but the thing is this debt doesnt have to be there  if we get the government for the people and by the people and stop buying into the hype and debt machine that is oboma and his silly followers who want to pay more debt, for what reason? they forget they are riding obamas jock for no reason
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 06:16:55 PM
the economic recession is is global, world wide. Has nothing to do with Obama dumbass. Things went to shit long before he got to be president..

STFU stupid........



By Tom Granahan
FOXBusiness

 
Related Content

    * Initial Claims Rise 8,000 to 480,000
    * Jobless Taxpayers May Be Missing Key Tax Breaks, Costing Themselves Money
    * Job Hunting Could Help cut Your Taxes

Claims for jobless benefits unexpectedly rose last week, a disappointing read on the economy in front of tomorrow’s monthly employment report.

The Labor Department said Thursday morning that seasonally adjusted initial claims came in at 480,000 for the week ended Jan. 30, an increase of 8,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 472,000.Economists were looking for a decrease of about 10,000.

The four-week moving average was 468,750, an increase of 11,750 from the previous week's revised average of 457,000. The largest increases in initial claims for the week ending Jan. 23 were in Oregon (+4,336), Puerto Rico (+2,439), and Hawaii (+18), while the largest decreases were in California (-22,674), Michigan (-11,757), North Carolina (-9,546), Georgia (-7,588), and Missouri (-7,577).

The four-week moving average also increased last week, rising by 11,750 to 468,750 from the previous week's revised average of 457,000.

Tomorrow’s jobs report is expected to show an unemployment rate of 10.1%, according to economists, a shade higher than the 10% posted in December. Nonfarm payrolls are seen essentially flat versus the decrease of 85,000 jobs in December.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:19:19 PM
STFU stupid........



By Tom Granahan
FOXBusiness

 
Related Content

    * Initial Claims Rise 8,000 to 480,000
    * Jobless Taxpayers May Be Missing Key Tax Breaks, Costing Themselves Money
    * Job Hunting Could Help cut Your Taxes

Claims for jobless benefits unexpectedly rose last week, a disappointing read on the economy in front of tomorrow’s monthly employment report.

The Labor Department said Thursday morning that seasonally adjusted initial claims came in at 480,000 for the week ended Jan. 30, an increase of 8,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 472,000.Economists were looking for a decrease of about 10,000.

The four-week moving average was 468,750, an increase of 11,750 from the previous week's revised average of 457,000. The largest increases in initial claims for the week ending Jan. 23 were in Oregon (+4,336), Puerto Rico (+2,439), and Hawaii (+18), while the largest decreases were in California (-22,674), Michigan (-11,757), North Carolina (-9,546), Georgia (-7,588), and Missouri (-7,577).

The four-week moving average also increased last week, rising by 11,750 to 468,750 from the previous week's revised average of 457,000.

Tomorrow’s jobs report is expected to show an unemployment rate of 10.1%, according to economists, a shade higher than the 10% posted in December. Nonfarm payrolls are seen essentially flat versus the decrease of 85,000 jobs in December.


adonis doesnt want jobs he wants more taxes and people to fall into the oboma trap. All oboma has done is shift more jobs to governement while reducing jobs overall.

wtf cant adonis see this as a problem lol what a douche~

government jobs just flush money down the drain, and budget drainers

Examples of public sector activity GOVERNMENT JOBS
range from delivering social security(BEYOND BROKE), administering urban planning(LMAO URBAN PLANNING WHAT DO THESE GUYS DO LOL)


more on the public sector wich is GOVERNMENT JOBS/CONTROL/ WHAT LIBS WANT LIKE OBAMO
Direct administration funded through taxation; the delivering organization generally has no specific requirement to meet commercial success criteria, and production decisions are determined by government.


in other words ILL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS UNLIKE YOU ASSHOLADONIS, THAT MEANS THERE IS NO INCENTIVE FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB TO MAKE A PROFIT OR BEING EFFICIENT.

You see the private sector as apposed to public sector are regular BROTHERS like me and you are the private sector and can run a buisness much more efficiently than a government could DONT U THINK BRO
Thus the PEOPLE have potentially more capabilities to devise great things and great inventions like tesla if as long as we stop giving power to the fucking government!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: MAXX on February 04, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
STFU stupid........



By Tom Granahan
FOXBusiness

 
Related Content

    * Initial Claims Rise 8,000 to 480,000
    * Jobless Taxpayers May Be Missing Key Tax Breaks, Costing Themselves Money
    * Job Hunting Could Help cut Your Taxes

Claims for jobless benefits unexpectedly rose last week, a disappointing read on the economy in front of tomorrow’s monthly employment report.

The Labor Department said Thursday morning that seasonally adjusted initial claims came in at 480,000 for the week ended Jan. 30, an increase of 8,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 472,000.Economists were looking for a decrease of about 10,000.

The four-week moving average was 468,750, an increase of 11,750 from the previous week's revised average of 457,000. The largest increases in initial claims for the week ending Jan. 23 were in Oregon (+4,336), Puerto Rico (+2,439), and Hawaii (+18), while the largest decreases were in California (-22,674), Michigan (-11,757), North Carolina (-9,546), Georgia (-7,588), and Missouri (-7,577).

The four-week moving average also increased last week, rising by 11,750 to 468,750 from the previous week's revised average of 457,000.

Tomorrow’s jobs report is expected to show an unemployment rate of 10.1%, according to economists, a shade higher than the 10% posted in December. Nonfarm payrolls are seen essentially flat versus the decrease of 85,000 jobs in December.

what does that prove? like i said unemployment rate is higher all over the world. Same in Sweden 9% or so
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: drkaje on February 04, 2010, 06:26:00 PM
I wonder if Obama is Reptilian.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: che on February 04, 2010, 06:28:33 PM
The U.S. Department of Labor Official Employment rate is now 90%, that's fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 06:30:38 PM
There is nothing to recant whatsoever.  2 percent of Small business will be affected with the other 98 percent faring better in taxes than the previous year.

REALLY? You said that 98% of small businesses don't make more than $250k in profit, while SOME don't make 250k in profit they make MOST make over $250k in GROSS RECEIPTS OR SALES. That means BEFORE there is a profit. It also doesn't just apply to businesses, it applies to families


To qualify as a small business concern for most SBA programs, small business size standards define the maximum size that a firm, including all of its affiliates, may be. A size standard is usually stated in number of employees or average annual receipts. SBA has established two widely used size standards—500 employees for most manufacturing and mining industries, and $7 million in average annual receipts for most nonmanufacturing industries. While there are many exceptions, these are the primary size standards by industry. (For more complete information on size standards, see SBA’s Small Business Size Regulations (13 CFR §121) or the Table of Small Business Size Standards.

Construction

    * General building and heavy construction contractors: $33.5 million
    * Special trade construction contractors: $14 million
    * Land subdivision: $7 million
    * Dredging: $20 million


Manufacturing

    * About 75 percent of the manufacturing industries: 500 employees
    * A small number of industries: 1,500 employees
    * The balance: either 750 or 1,000 employees


Mining

    * All mining industries, except mining services: 500 employees


Retail Trade

    * Most retail trade industries: $7 million
    * A few (such as grocery stores, department stores, motor vehicle dealers and electrical appliance dealers), have higher size standards, but none above $35.5 million.


Services

    * Most common: $7 million
    * Computer programming, data processing and systems design: $25 million
    * Engineering and architectural services and a few other industries have different size standards.
    * The highest annual-receipts size standard in any service industry: $35.5 million
    * Research and development and environmental remediation services: the only service industries with size standards stated in number of employees


Wholesale Trade

    * For small business Federal contracts: 100 employees, and the firm must deliver the product of a small domestic manufacturer, as set forth in SBA’s nonmanufacturer rule, unless waived by the SBA for a particular class of product. For procurements made under the Simplified Acquisition Procedures of the FAR and where the purchase does not exceed $25,000, the nonmanufacturer may deliver the goods of any domestic manufacturer.
    * For loans and all other programs: 100 employees is applicable for all industries.


Other Industries

    * Divisions include agriculture; transportation, communications, electric, gas, and sanitary services; and finance, insurance and real estate.
    * Because of wide variation in the structure of industries in these divisions, there is no common pattern of size standards.
    * For specific size standards as of January 1 of each year, refer to the size regulations in 13 CFR §121.201. SBA's Table of Small Business Size Standards includes all changes and modifications made since January 1 of the most recent y
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: MAXX on February 04, 2010, 06:35:59 PM


(p.s. just to piss off JME)
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:36:24 PM
adonis doesnt want jobs he wants more taxes and people to fall into the oboma trap. All oboma has done is shift more jobs to governement while reducing jobs overall.

wtf cant adonis see this as a problem lol what a douche~

government jobs just flush money down the drain, and budget drainers

Examples of public sector activity GOVERNMENT JOBS
range from delivering social security(BEYOND BROKE), administering urban planning(LMAO URBAN PLANNING WHAT DO THESE GUYS DO LOL)


more on the public sector wich is GOVERNMENT JOBS/CONTROL/ WHAT LIBS WANT LIKE OBAMO
Direct administration funded through taxation; the delivering organization generally has no specific requirement to meet commercial success criteria, and production decisions are determined by government.


in other words ILL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS UNLIKE YOU ASSHOLADONIS, THAT MEANS THERE IS NO INCENTIVE FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB TO MAKE A PROFIT OR BEING EFFICIENT.

You see the private sector as apposed to public sector are regular BROTHERS like me and you are the private sector and can run a buisness much more efficiently than a government could DONT U THINK BRO
Thus the PEOPLE have potentially more capabilities to devise great things and great inventions like tesla if as long as we stop giving power to the fucking government!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i would like someones input

the government public sector drains taxes how much can the people take, how much do you allow, and why do you support higher taxes by a government that runs failed buisness and practices
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:38:32 PM
what does that prove? like i said unemployment rate is higher all over the world. Same in Sweden 9% or so

THE POINT IS THAT UNEMPLOYMENT COULD BE ALOT LESS IF WE DIDNT TAX SMALL BUISNESS SO MUCH AND GAVE THE WEALTH BACK TO THE CITICIZENS LIKE ME AND YOU AND EVEN ADONIS FAILCANS
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: MAXX on February 04, 2010, 06:40:12 PM
THE POINT IS THAT UNEMPLOYMENT COULD BE ALOT LESS IF WE DIDNT TAX SMALL BUISNESS SO MUCH AND GAVE THE WEALTH BACK TO THE CITICIZENS LIKE ME AND YOU AND EVEN ADONIS FAILCANS
politics is different in all countrys. still the dive in employment rates is simular all over.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 04, 2010, 06:40:59 PM



i would like someones input

the government public sector drains taxes how much can the people take, how much do you allow, and why do you support higher taxes by a government that runs failed buisness and practices

Because that is exactly what THIS government wants. If this country was a business what do think would happend? Could you imagine running a business like this?  
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:41:20 PM
UNEMPLOYMENT IS THE BIGGER PICTURE AND THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING

IMAGINE IF THESE SMALL BUISNNESS COULD HIRE MORE PEOPLE OR START UP MORE SIDEBUISSNESS

THERE WOULD BE MORE GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT THEN , WEALTH WOULD SKY ROCKET, WE WOULD HAVE MORE REBUILT COMMUNITIES AND PLENTY OF NEW ONES , IF THE COMMON MAN HAD MORE JOBS

REMEMBER YOU NEVER GET A JOB FROM A POOR MAN
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:42:50 PM
politics is different in all countrys. still the dive in employment rates is simular all over.

IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE AT 10 PERSON UNEMPLOYMENT IT COULD BE ALOT LESS

WHY ARE YOU SO ACCEPTING OF THIS

UNEMPOLYMENT COULD BE ALOT LESS IF THERE WASNT SO MANY TAXES ON SMALL BUISNESS ,

even big buisness getting a tax break, everyone then in the country would have the option of trying to get hired at a job if they wanted to and be more likely to be hired if there was incentive for the employer

i think even a group of 10 scientists people could reveal alot more than what nasa is hiding with there billions of tax dollars wasted
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:48:46 PM
Because that is exactly what THIS government wants. If this country was a business what do think would happend? Could you imagine running a business like this?  

yep they desire to choke the wealth and have to ask them for everything, food, clothing, liberties ect this gives them ultimate power over us, less overally production, everything sits still and or becomes less

Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Natural Man on February 04, 2010, 06:49:18 PM
oh god adonis VS failcan , clash of the titans... never thought i d see that in my life.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: che on February 04, 2010, 06:51:06 PM
The Bush Administration's tax cut didn't increase investment retard Failcan.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: BodyProSite on February 04, 2010, 06:53:21 PM
NOTHING OBAMA IS DOING IS INCREASING INVESTMENTS
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:55:00 PM
Adonis government programs waste so much of the citicizens money, u cant support this

dont you think me or you could replace many weightloss facilities tax funed medicare or health practices  when it comes to giving advice or organizing mass weightloss and organization care for these folks who are fat

its like government says we need 10,000 knives when all u need is a spoon this is how they operate
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 06:58:08 PM
The Bush Administration's tax cut didn't increase investment retard Failcan.

whatever positive we got from bush we certainly lose with oboma

we are passing on debt to our children

the debt from one year is over a trillion and that is more than bush did on his whole 4 years
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: BodyProSite on February 04, 2010, 07:08:13 PM
LIBS WILL ALWAYS BLAME OTHERS , ITS THE LIBERAL WAY ,  DENY, THEN PASS BLAME , THEN HURRY TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Natural Man on February 04, 2010, 07:11:55 PM
well to be honnest, it's getting bad everywhere, even in europe, not just in the US.

Too many people, too much institutionalized stupidity, TV as the new global religion, not enough jobs...
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: haider on February 04, 2010, 07:13:04 PM
LIBS WILL ALWAYS BLAME OTHERS , ITS THE LIBERAL WAY ,  DENY, THEN PASS BLAME , THEN HURRY TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT
its pretty much human nature.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 07:14:43 PM
well to be honnest, it's getting bad everywhere, even in europe, not just in the US.

Too many people, too much institutionalized stupidity, TV as the new global religion, not enough jobs...

like ive said it doesnt HAVE TO BE BAD HERE

why do you and others insist on arguing "well its bad everywhere so it has to be bad here" thats not the american way buddy!

unemployment could be alot less if there were less tax on buisness hell new york has like a 50% + income tax  :o
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Hulkotron on February 04, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
Johnny Falcon is much more powerful name than Daddy Waddy I must say.
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Red Hook on February 04, 2010, 08:02:32 PM
It is interesting that Johnny Failcon is trying to show his political knowledge by stating which Fox talk show he watches.

"Yes, I watch Rush therefore I am expert on what the Obama administration and liberals are all about"


this fucker couldn't articulate the differences between a form of government from an economic system...yet he wants to talk about democracy and capitalism as if he knows the difference.



Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Rami on February 04, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
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Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: MAXX on February 04, 2010, 08:38:19 PM
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Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 08:44:43 PM
It is interesting that Johnny Failcon is trying to show his political knowledge by stating which Fox talk show he watches.

"Yes, I watch Rush therefore I am expert on what the Obama administration and liberals are all about"


this fucker couldn't articulate the differences between a form of government from an economic system...yet he wants to talk about democracy and capitalism as if he knows the difference.





i used to sound ignorant like you until i started listening to rush and shawn hannity
Title: fuck you falcon
Post by: pugalist666 on February 04, 2010, 09:07:54 PM
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Title: Re: fuck you falcon
Post by: Marty Champions on February 04, 2010, 09:46:59 PM
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i could careless what u think is healthy to eat, all i care is that i try to help and am glad god will fix your life :)
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on February 04, 2010, 09:52:31 PM
Glad to see you in a more mellow place Johny.   ;D
Title: Re: Interesting, barack obama's real name barry soetoro
Post by: Marty Champions on February 05, 2010, 05:52:45 AM
THE POINT IS THAT UNEMPLOYMENT COULD BE ALOT LESS IF WE DIDNT TAX SMALL BUISNESS SO MUCH AND GAVE THE WEALTH BACK TO THE CITICIZENS LIKE ME AND YOU AND EVEN ADONIS FAILCANS

QFT