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Title: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 08, 2010, 12:17:52 PM


Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. John Murtha, the first veteran of the Vietnam war to enter Congress and one of the body's most powerful lawmakers, died Wednesday morning at Virginia Hospital Center after complications from gallbladder surgery. Murtha was 77.

"Congressman John P. Murtha (PA-12) passed away peacefully this afternoon at 1:18 p.m. at Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington, Va. At his bedside was his family," reads a statement from his office.

A native of New Martinsville, W.Va., voters elected first elected Murtha to Congress in a 1974 special election that spelled impending doom for President Nixon and congressional Republicans. That fall, Democrats wrestled away 49 House seats from the GOP, reeling from the scourge of Watergate and a presidency in shambles.

Murtha rose to become the chairman of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee that controls spending for the Pentagon. Chairmen of the appropriations subcommittee panels are viewed with such prestige on Capitol Hill that they're called "cardinals." That's a nod to Rome because of the eminence these lawmakers hold over spending for their federal fiefdom.

Murtha was also the endorsed candidate of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to become majority leader when Democrats won control of Congress in 2006. But current House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer overwhelmingly defeated Murtha by secret ballot in a hard-fought leadership contest.

Murtha enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1952 and became a drill instructor at Parris Island. He served in Korea and received a Bronze Star and Two Purple Hearts for his service in Vietnam. He continued to be a member of the Marine Corps Reserves until he resigned as a colonel in 1990.

Murtha voted to go to war in Iraq the fall of 2002. But two years later, the Pennsylvania Democrat called for the United States to withdraw. Later on the House floor, Rep. Jean Schmidt, the newest member of the House at the time, spoke in favor of the war and chided Murtha that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do." Schmidt's remarks ignited a firestorm on the House floor as lawmakers rose to Murtha's defense. Schmidt later said she didn't know that Murtha was a Marine. She withdrew her comments and apologized.

A hint of scandal lingered over much of Murtha's career. The FBI named Murtha an "unindicted co-conspirator" in its ABSCAM sting operation in the late 1970s and early '80s. ABSCAM resulted in the conviction of five House members and one senator. The FBI recorded Murtha on videotape declining a $50,000 bribe from federal agents posing as Arab sheiks. But the congressman did say he could be interested in future dealings.

Nicknamed "The King of Pork," Murtha also faced scrutiny for earmarking federal dollars for projects in his district. Numerous news reports lambasted the congressman for steering money to the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport. The facility received $150 million from Washington for upgrades despite limited commercial use. But the airport is also used for military purposes.

The congressman also faced scrutiny for campaign contributions he and other appropriators received from the now defunct PMA lobbying firm. Murtha scored nearly $2.5 million in donations from PMA and its clients over a nearly 20-year period. The feds continue to scrutinize PMA. The Office of Congressional Ethics asked the House ethics committee to drop any inquiries into the dealings Murtha had with PMA.

Murtha also stirred controversy in the fall of 2008 with President Obama poised to become the first African American president. When asked about Mr. Obama's chances in his congressional district, Murtha responded, "There's no question western Pennsylvania is a racist area."

Even though Murtha won re-election, Sen. John McCain carried the district in the presidential race by about 1,000 votes.

Despite controversy, Murtha was beloved by his House colleagues for holding court in what's called "Murtha's corner" in the rear of the House chamber. During a House vote series, Murtha could often be seen trading information or spinning yarns with fellow lawmakers. He also won the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award and Pennsylvania's two highest honors, the Distinguished Service Medal and the Meritorious Service Medal.

Funeral arrangements are incomplete.
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: rockyfortune on February 08, 2010, 12:27:29 PM
here comes the state funeral for mr. abscam...
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 08, 2010, 03:06:52 PM
Will Obama be at the funeral?
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: emn1964 on February 08, 2010, 03:09:28 PM
What years did Murtha do the Olympia?
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Lurker79 on February 08, 2010, 08:16:37 PM
Did he have shredded glutes?
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Army of One on February 08, 2010, 08:18:02 PM
Did he have shredded glutes?

He will do soon.
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: bigdumbbell on February 08, 2010, 08:30:44 PM
Did he have shredded glutes?
lol
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: The True Adonis on February 08, 2010, 08:37:13 PM
The Doctors killed him.  Nicked his Intestines during surgery.
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 08, 2010, 09:14:04 PM
It wasn't the nick, it was the infection. Lemme guess Adam, it was murder right?
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: titusisback on February 08, 2010, 09:29:11 PM
A 77 year old man just died...?!?

NO FUCKING WAY!!!!?!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: marty31672 on February 08, 2010, 10:10:58 PM
*observers a moment of silence*
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: tbombz on February 08, 2010, 10:31:11 PM
It wasn't the nick, it was the infection. Lemme guess Adam, it was murder right?
no, possibly involuntary manslaughter
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: polychronopolous on February 08, 2010, 10:31:55 PM
It's too bad, the man was a legend.
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 08, 2010, 10:38:26 PM
no, possibly involuntary manslaughter

Oh brother.....how about just an accident! You libs kill me..LMAO!!
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: tbombz on February 08, 2010, 10:41:12 PM
Oh brother.....how about just an accident! You libs kill me..LMAO!!
is everything political? i think not. if a doctor makes a mistake during surgery and his patient dies, the only real possible conviction is involuntary manslaughter, not murder. (presupposing that it was indeed a mistake, and not intentional)
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 08, 2010, 10:47:53 PM
is everything political? i think not. if a doctor makes a mistake during surgery and his patient dies, the only real possible conviction is involuntary manslaughter, not murder. (presupposing that it was indeed a mistake, and not intentional)

Saying it may be involuntary manslaughter would be an accusation that the doctor had an agenda to purposely harm him. What other possible agenda would that doctor have if Murtha was not a politician?
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: tbombz on February 08, 2010, 10:50:38 PM
Saying it may be involuntary manslaughter would be an accusation that the doctor had an agenda to purposely harm him. What other possible agenda would that doctor have if Murtha was not a politician?
lol!!! um, no. your are incorrect that involuntary manslaughter would mean that he intended harm, it only places blame, and actually by deifnition is for those who did not intend to cause the death.
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 08, 2010, 11:02:39 PM
lol!!! um, no. your are incorrect that involuntary manslaughter would mean that he intended harm, it only places blame, and actually by deifnition is for those who did not intend to cause the death.

MANSLAUGHTER, INVOLUNTARY

In order for a person to be found guilty of involuntary manslaughter the government must prove that someone was killed as a result of an act by the person;

Second, in the circumstances existing at the time, the person's act either was by its nature dangerous to human life or was done with reckless disregard for human life; and

Third, the person either knew that such conduct was a threat to the lives of others or knew of circumstances that would reasonably cause the person to foresee that such conduct might be a threat to the lives of others.


http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m011.htm
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: tbombz on February 08, 2010, 11:05:47 PM
read it again, you may be thinking that what you originally said is being supported by that legal deifnition?  :-X    ;D
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Bob Bonham on February 08, 2010, 11:21:22 PM
one seat at a time .The republicans will take back congress
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: The True Adonis on February 09, 2010, 12:23:33 AM
one seat at a time .The republicans will take back congress
How will you benefit if that were to happen?
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: slacker on February 09, 2010, 12:25:19 AM

Pennsylvania Democratic Rep. John Murtha, the first veteran of the Vietnam war to enter Congress and one of the body's most powerful lawmakers, died Wednesday morning at Virginia Hospital Center after complications from gallbladder surgery. Murtha was 77.

"Congressman John P. Murtha (PA-12) passed away peacefully this afternoon at 1:18 p.m. at Virginia Hospital Center in Arlington, Va. At his bedside was his family," reads a statement from his office.

A native of New Martinsville, W.Va., voters elected first elected Murtha to Congress in a 1974 special election that spelled impending doom for President Nixon and congressional Republicans. That fall, Democrats wrestled away 49 House seats from the GOP, reeling from the scourge of Watergate and a presidency in shambles.

Murtha rose to become the chairman of the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee that controls spending for the Pentagon. Chairmen of the appropriations subcommittee panels are viewed with such prestige on Capitol Hill that they're called "cardinals." That's a nod to Rome because of the eminence these lawmakers hold over spending for their federal fiefdom.

Murtha was also the endorsed candidate of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to become majority leader when Democrats won control of Congress in 2006. But current House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer overwhelmingly defeated Murtha by secret ballot in a hard-fought leadership contest.

Murtha enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1952 and became a drill instructor at Parris Island. He served in Korea and received a Bronze Star and Two Purple Hearts for his service in Vietnam. He continued to be a member of the Marine Corps Reserves until he resigned as a colonel in 1990.

Murtha voted to go to war in Iraq the fall of 2002. But two years later, the Pennsylvania Democrat called for the United States to withdraw. Later on the House floor, Rep. Jean Schmidt, the newest member of the House at the time, spoke in favor of the war and chided Murtha that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do." Schmidt's remarks ignited a firestorm on the House floor as lawmakers rose to Murtha's defense. Schmidt later said she didn't know that Murtha was a Marine. She withdrew her comments and apologized.

A hint of scandal lingered over much of Murtha's career. The FBI named Murtha an "unindicted co-conspirator" in its ABSCAM sting operation in the late 1970s and early '80s. ABSCAM resulted in the conviction of five House members and one senator. The FBI recorded Murtha on videotape declining a $50,000 bribe from federal agents posing as Arab sheiks. But the congressman did say he could be interested in future dealings.

Nicknamed "The King of Pork," Murtha also faced scrutiny for earmarking federal dollars for projects in his district. Numerous news reports lambasted the congressman for steering money to the John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport. The facility received $150 million from Washington for upgrades despite limited commercial use. But the airport is also used for military purposes.

The congressman also faced scrutiny for campaign contributions he and other appropriators received from the now defunct PMA lobbying firm. Murtha scored nearly $2.5 million in donations from PMA and its clients over a nearly 20-year period. The feds continue to scrutinize PMA. The Office of Congressional Ethics asked the House ethics committee to drop any inquiries into the dealings Murtha had with PMA.

Murtha also stirred controversy in the fall of 2008 with President Obama poised to become the first African American president. When asked about Mr. Obama's chances in his congressional district, Murtha responded, "There's no question western Pennsylvania is a racist area."

Even though Murtha won re-election, Sen. John McCain carried the district in the presidential race by about 1,000 votes.

Despite controversy, Murtha was beloved by his House colleagues for holding court in what's called "Murtha's corner" in the rear of the House chamber. During a House vote series, Murtha could often be seen trading information or spinning yarns with fellow lawmakers. He also won the John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award and Pennsylvania's two highest honors, the Distinguished Service Medal and the Meritorious Service Medal.

Funeral arrangements are incomplete.

very nice copy and paste JME  no one cares about this fool
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: rockyfortune on February 09, 2010, 05:46:07 AM
semper fi bub...
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: Bix on February 09, 2010, 06:09:42 AM
Glad he's dead. :)
Title: Re: Congressman John Murtha Dead
Post by: wes mantooth on February 09, 2010, 02:17:48 PM
Dem or GOP member....this man was an honorary getbigger


"Murtha enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1952 and became a drill instructor at Parris Island. He served in Korea and received a Bronze Star and Two Purple Hearts for his service in Vietnam."


do you think they buried him with his necklace full of ears?