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If you listen to the media all you hear is negativity . Here's what Obama has done. This is refreshing. In the listings below, numbered listings in blue indicate items I was not aware of that impressed me. The numbered items in red font are really impressive because I doubt any other president has ever done this.
The author is Professor Robert Watson of Lynn University who was once a writer for the New York Times.
Professor Watson writes :
Hi friends,
I am always being asked to grade Obama's presidency. In place of offering him a grade, I put together a list of his accomplishments thus far. I think you would agree that it is very impressive. His first six months have been even more active than FDRs or LBJs the two standards for such assessments. Yet, there is little media attention given to much of what he has done. Of late, the media is focusing almost exclusively on Obama's critics, without holding them responsible for the uncivil, unconstructive tone of their disagreements or without holding the previous administration responsible for getting us in such a deep hole. The misinformation and venom that now passes for political reporting and civic debate is beyond description.
As such, there is a need to set the record straight. What most impresses me is the fact that Obama has accomplished so much not from a heavy-handed or top-down approach but from a style that has institutionalized efforts to reach across the aisle, encourage vigorous debate, and utilize town halls and panels of experts in the policy-making process. Beyond the accomplishments, the process is good for democracy and our democratic processes have been battered and bruised in recent years.
Let me know if I missed anything in the list (surely I did).
Robert
1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier's family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist's access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren't even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. U.S. financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job.
36. U.S. Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry's predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57. Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters.
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform
Oh, and another thing...
91. ...He built a swing set for the girls outside the Oval Office!
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# 74 hahahahahahahahahaha lololololol hahahahahahahaha good one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this should be on the comedy channel
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# 74 hahahahahahahahahaha lololololol hahahahahahahaha good one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this should be on the comedy channel
Half of that list was so blatantly false its not even worth the time responsding to it.
More kneepadding.
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LOL
There's a lot of BS in this. This should be renamed the thread of lies. WTF?
1,2 - Done by all presidents, it's nothing more than show.
4 - just a flat out lie. We we're withdrawling before he even took office.
8 - another flat out lie. Hell, they kept trying to delay the pictures of AF1 over NY
10 - flat out lie
I'm not even go bother with reading the rest of this crap.
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#12. - Is this true??? That would be news to my ears, and I would think liberals would be talking about it more. I bet this guy believes that it was Bush who instituted the stop-loss policy. It is something that has been in place for a long while.
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62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
That one is bogus. I posted a story about a crony who got a huge no-bid contract a few weeks ago.
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If you listen to the media all you hear is negativity . Here's what Obama has done. This is refreshing. In the listings below, numbered listings in blue indicate items I was not aware of that impressed me. The numbered items in red font are really impressive because I doubt any other president has ever done this.
The author is Professor Robert Watson of Lynn University who was once a writer for the New York Times.
Professor Watson writes :
Hi friends,
I am always being asked to grade Obama's presidency. In place of offering him a grade, I put together a list of his accomplishments thus far. I think you would agree that it is very impressive. His first six months have been even more active than FDRs or LBJs the two standards for such assessments. Yet, there is little media attention given to much of what he has done. Of late, the media is focusing almost exclusively on Obama's critics, without holding them responsible for the uncivil, unconstructive tone of their disagreements or without holding the previous administration responsible for getting us in such a deep hole. The misinformation and venom that now passes for political reporting and civic debate is beyond description.
As such, there is a need to set the record straight. What most impresses me is the fact that Obama has accomplished so much not from a heavy-handed or top-down approach but from a style that has institutionalized efforts to reach across the aisle, encourage vigorous debate, and utilize town halls and panels of experts in the policy-making process. Beyond the accomplishments, the process is good for democracy and our democratic processes have been battered and bruised in recent years.
Let me know if I missed anything in the list (surely I did).
Robert
1. Ordered all federal agencies to undertake a study and make recommendations for ways to cut spending
2. Ordered a review of all federal operations to identify and cut wasteful spending and practices
3. Instituted enforcement for equal pay for women
4. Beginning the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq
5. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses covered to be on hand when the body arrives at Dover AFB
6. Ended media blackout on war casualties; reporting full information
7. Ended media blackout on covering the return of fallen soldiers to Dover AFB; the media is now permitted to do so pending adherence to respectful rules and approval of fallen soldier's family
8. The White House and federal government are respecting the Freedom of Information Act
9. Instructed all federal agencies to promote openness and transparency as much as possible
10. Limits on lobbyist's access to the White House
11. Limits on White House aides working for lobbyists after their tenure in the administration
12. Ended the previous stop-loss policy that kept soldiers in Iraq/Afghanistan longer than their enlistment date
13. Phasing out the expensive F-22 war plane and other outdated weapons systems, which weren't even used or needed in Iraq/Afghanistan
14. Removed restrictions on embryonic stem-cell research
15. Federal support for stem-cell and new biomedical research
16. New federal funding for science and research labs
17. States are permitted to enact federal fuel efficiency standards above federal standards
18. Increased infrastructure spending (roads, bridges, power plants) after years of neglect
19. Funds for high-speed, broadband Internet access to K-12 schools
20. New funds for school construction
21. The prison at Guantanamo Bay is being phased out
22. US Auto industry rescue plan
23. Housing rescue plan
24. $789 billion economic stimulus plan
25. The public can meet with federal housing insurers to refinance (the new plan can be completed in one day) a mortgage if they are having trouble paying
26. U.S. financial and banking rescue plan
27. The secret detention facilities in Eastern Europe and elsewhere are being closed
28. Ended the previous policy; the US now has a no torture policy and is in compliance with the Geneva Convention standards
29. Better body armor is now being provided to our troops
30. The missile defense program is being cut by $1.4 billion in 2010
31. Restarted the nuclear nonproliferation talks and building back up the nuclear inspection infrastructure/protocols
32. Reengaged in the treaties/agreements to protect the Antarctic
33. Reengaged in the agreements/talks on global warming and greenhouse gas emissions
34. Visited more countries and met with more world leaders than any president in his first six months in office
35. Successful release of US captain held by Somali pirates; authorized the SEALS to do their job.
36. U.S. Navy increasing patrols off Somali coast
37. Attractive tax write-offs for those who buy hybrid automobiles
38. Cash for clunkers program offers vouchers to trade in fuel inefficient, polluting old cars for new cars; stimulated auto sales
39. Announced plans to purchase fuel efficient American-made fleet for the federal government
40. Expanded the SCHIP program to cover health care for 4 million more children
41. Signed national service legislation; expanded national youth service program
42. Instituted a new policy on Cuba, allowing Cuban families to return home to visit loved ones
43. Ended the previous policy of not regulating and labeling carbon dioxide emissions
44. Expanding vaccination programs
45. Immediate and efficient response to the floods in North Dakota and other natural disasters
46. Closed offshore tax safe havens
47. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals
48. Ended the previous policy of offering tax benefits to corporations who outsource American jobs; the new policy is to promote in-sourcing to bring jobs back
49. Ended the previous practice of protecting credit card companies; in place of it are new consumer protections from credit card industry's predatory practices
50. Energy producing plants must begin preparing to produce 15% of their energy from renewable sources
51. Lower drug costs for seniors
52. Ended the previous practice of forbidding Medicare from negotiating with drug manufacturers for cheaper drugs; the federal government is now realizing hundreds of millions in savings
53. Increasing pay and benefits for military personnel
54. Improved housing for military personnel
55. Initiating a new policy to promote federal hiring of military spouses
56. Improved conditions at Walter Reed Military Hospital and other military hospitals
57. Increasing student loans
58. Increasing opportunities in AmeriCorps program
59. Sent envoys to Middle East and other parts of the world that had been neglected for years; reengaging in multilateral and bilateral talks and diplomacy
60. Established a new cyber security office
61. Beginning the process of reforming and restructuring the military 20 years after the Cold War to a more modern fighting force; this includes new procurement policies, increasing size of military, new technology and cyber units and operations, etc.
62. Ended previous policy of awarding no-bid defense contracts
63. Ordered a review of hurricane and natural disaster preparedness
64. Established a National Performance Officer charged with saving the federal government money and making federal operations more efficient
65. Students struggling to make college loan payments can have their loans refinanced
66. Improving benefits for veterans
67. Many more press conferences and town halls and much more media access than previous administration
68. Instituted a new focus on mortgage fraud
69. The FDA is now regulating tobacco
70. Ended previous policy of cutting the FDA and circumventing FDA rules
71. Ended previous practice of having White House aides rewrite scientific and environmental rules, regulations, and reports
72. Authorized discussions with North Korea and private mission by Pres. Bill Clinton to secure the release of two Americans held in prisons
73. Authorized discussions with Myanmar and mission by Sen. Jim Web to secure the release of an American held captive
74. Making more loans available to small businesses
75. Established independent commission to make recommendations on slowing the costs of Medicare
76. Appointment of first Latina to the Supreme Court
77. Authorized construction/opening of additional health centers to care for veterans
78. Limited salaries of senior White House aides; cut to $100,000
79. Renewed loan guarantees for Israel
80. Changed the failing/status quo military command in Afghanistan
81. Deployed additional troops to Afghanistan
82. New Afghan War policy that limits aerial bombing and prioritizes aid, development of infrastructure, diplomacy, and good government practices by Afghans
83. Announced the long-term development of a national energy grid with renewable sources and cleaner, efficient energy production
84. Returned money authorized for refurbishment of White House offices and private living quarters.
85. Paid for redecoration of White House living quarters out of his own pocket
86. Held first Seder in White House
87. Attempting to reform the nation's healthcare system which is the most expensive in the world yet leaves almost 50 million without health insurance and millions more under insured
88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform
89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reform
90. Has announced his intention to push for education reform
Oh, and another thing...
91. ...He built a swing set for the girls outside the Oval Office!
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God help me but I'm gonna tackle some of this..only the military stuff.
4....bullshit/started under Bush based on both military action under Bush that made it possible and agreements under Bush that made it possible. Obama voted against the surge..end of discussion.
5. I have no idea who started this - Congrats barry.
6. There was no media black-out of war casualties. By DOD reg, names are printed 24 hours AFTER next of kin notification..,this way for years.
7. This is a good thing? Nobody cares now anyway...Barry got his half assed photo op.
12. Yeah because we've won in Iraq and the war is different in Afghanistan. Not because of Barry
13. Yeah great job...because thats the only threat we face. This is a mistake of epic proportions and cuts have not been fully made.
21. No its not..nice try
28. More weak bullshit
29. Body Armor research was being conducted long before he came into office. The current body armor I have was being worn by SOF forces well before conventional forces ever got it. They have moved on and so will we eventually as even better armor becomes available.
35. JSOC operates independent of Presidential oversight in cases like this..they did they're friggen jop. Barry did nothing
36. Gimme a break....
53. Really...I'm getting a 1.5% raise next year. I got 3 plus under Bush most years
54. US military housing was privitaized under Bush...he can't take any credit for this. Complete horseshit.
56. I didn't know he painted buildings. The IG of the US Army under Bush undertook the investigation of certain elements at Reed and has or is fixing them.
61. BULLLLLLLLLSHIT.....BULL LSHIT......BULLSHIT..... .BULLSHIT. This began with Gen Shinseki and the Force 21 Program...some it under Clinton. Rumsfeld was the driver behind this. WOW!!!!!
80-82....Ur kidding me right.....I think we've debated this topic to death.
This list is epic bullshit.....thats just the military part.
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34. is laughable at best.
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Obama made it snow because he wants it to look like Chicago. He only forgot one thing. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION! And mofos don't want to plow because the counties will not pay overtime, so plow trucks are driving around with their plows up.
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God help me but I'm gonna tackle some of this..only the military stuff.
4....bullshit/started under Bush based on both military action under Bush that made it possible and agreements under Bush that made it possible. Obama voted against the surge..end of discussion.
5. I have no idea who started this - Congrats barry.
6. There was no media black-out of war casualties. By DOD reg, names are printed 24 hours AFTER next of kin notification..,this way for years.
7. This is a good thing? Nobody cares now anyway...Barry got his half assed photo op.
12. Yeah because we've won in Iraq and the war is different in Afghanistan. Not because of Barry
13. Yeah great job...because thats the only threat we face. This is a mistake of epic proportions and cuts have not been fully made.
21. No its not..nice try
28. More weak bullshit
29. Body Armor research was being conducted long before he came into office. The current body armor I have was being worn by SOF forces well before conventional forces ever got it. They have moved on and so will we eventually as even better armor becomes available.
35. JSOC operates independent of Presidential oversight in cases like this..they did they're friggen jop. Barry did nothing
36. Gimme a break....
53. Really...I'm getting a 1.5% raise next year. I got 3 plus under Bush most years
54. US military housing was privitaized under Bush...he can't take any credit for this. Complete horseshit.
56. I didn't know he painted buildings. The IG of the US Army under Bush undertook the investigation of certain elements at Reed and has or is fixing them.
61. BULLLLLLLLLSHIT.....BULL LSHIT......BULLSHIT..... .BULLSHIT. This began with Gen Shinseki and the Force 21 Program...some it under Clinton. Rumsfeld was the driver behind this. WOW!!!!!
80-82....Ur kidding me right.....I think we've debated this topic to death.
This list is epic bullshit.....thats just the military part.
You'll get no argument from me on this one.
Get a clue, Jaguar. Gitmo was supposed to be closed two weeks ago. Instead, it's being used as part of the humanitarian relief effort for the folks in Haiti.
Trust me, the military side was far happier, paycheck-wise, under Bush than under Obama.
Obama waited three months after his general begged and pleaded for more troops. Even then, Obama only gave McChrystal 75% of what he needed to win this "war of necessity".
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Wow the righties come out in full force to dispute facts ::) yeah bush was totally heading out of Iraq ::) Such negativity it's no wonder we have no partisan work being done all anyone wants to do is attack without solutions.
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Wow the righties come out in full force to dispute facts ::) yeah bush was totally heading out of Iraq ::) Such negativity it's no wonder we have no partisan work being done all anyone wants to do is attack without solutions.
No, it's about setting the record straight. Ain't Gitmo supposed to be CLOSED?
If half of what Jaguar listed were actually true, Obama's approval ratings wouldn't be in the 40s, and the Dems wouldn't have lost three straight elections, the last of which costs them their supermajority.
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No, it's about setting the record straight. Ain't Gitmo supposed to be CLOSED?
Oh no gitmo's not closed wow impeach him! Do you even care if it's closed? Most conservatives want it to remain open .
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Oh no gitmo's not closed wow impeach him! Do you even care if it's closed? Most conservatives want it to remain open .
As do I. The point is El Big Mouth made the bold declaration that Gitmo would be closed NO LATER THAN ONE YEAR after he signed that order (Jan. 22 of last year).
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Oh no gitmo's not closed wow impeach him! Do you even care if it's closed? Most conservatives want it to remain open .
I dont want him impeached, it will only make him more popular.
I want him to keep doing what he is doing since it will mark the end of crack-pot liberal idiocy for at least 20 years.
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Oh no gitmo's not closed wow impeach him! Do you even care if it's closed? Most conservatives want it to remain open .
This is weak - he campaigned on it. Nobody's calling for impeachment, just pointing out that Hope and Change was more of the same.
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This is weak - he campaigned on it. Nobody's calling for impeachment, just pointing out that Hope and Change was more of the same.
"Hope & Change" was moronic ruse to sucker in people like KC and those with the mentality of 5 y/o children who will believe in anything, regardless of how stupid it is.
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As do I. The point is El Big Mouth made the bold declaration that Gitmo would be closed NO LATER THAN ONE YEAR after he signed that order (Jan. 22 of last year).
So what does it matter that it's still open? You're happy it is but yet you'd still like to find something to be unhappy about. weird. When bush was in power i found happiness when he changed his stances to things i agreed with. i didn't fault him for it i agreed with him on it. But hey bash away again and again whilst your party takes slush fund money and fires people at the same time, whilst your party slams the stimulus then asks for money to create jobs in their states, bash away whilst the most visible repub writes taxes, energy etc on her hand at a speech.
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So what does it matter that it's still open? You're happy it is but yet you'd still like to find something to be unhappy about. weird. When bush was in power i found happiness when he changed his stances to things i agreed with. i didn't fault him for it i agreed with him on it. But hey bash away again and again whilst your party takes slush fund money and fires people at the same time, whilst your party slams the stimulus then asks for money to create jobs in their states, bash away whilst the most visible repub writes taxes, energy etc on her hand at a speech.
MCWAY is simply pointing out one of Obama's broken promises. He promised to close Gitmo, but he didn't close it. Obama did not change his stance on the issue. He simply made an empty promise that he could not possibly keep. He either had no idea what he was getting himself into, or he simply lied. Neither one is good.
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MCWAY is simply pointing out one of Obama's broken promises. He promised to close Gitmo, but he didn't close it. Obama did not change his stance on the issue. He simply made an empty promise that he could not possibly keep. He either had no idea what he was getting himself into, or he simply lied. Neither one is good.
So what does it matter? I mean seriously. He broke a promise that he wanted him to break anyway. Shouldn't he be happy? I know i would if i got what i wanted regardless of how it came about.
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So what does it matter? I mean seriously. He broke a promise that he wanted him to break anyway. Shouldn't he be happy? I know i would if i got what i wanted regardless of how it came about.
MCWAY already said that he is happy that Gitmo is still open. Just because he points out Obama's broken promises and inconsistencies does not mean that he is unhappy about Gitmo still being open.
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So what does it matter? I mean seriously. He broke a promise that he wanted him to break anyway. Shouldn't he be happy? I know i would if i got what i wanted regardless of how it came about.
The only reason he broke that promise was because he didnt reealize that his pie in the sky nonsense was campaign lies and nothing else until he actually had to deal with the issue.
The above list is laughable.
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Please explain to me how my post was "SPAM",
...or is this your canned response to everything I write {no pun intended}
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You'll get no argument from me on this one.
Get a clue, Jaguar. Gitmo was supposed to be closed two weeks ago. Instead, it's being used as part of the humanitarian relief effort for the folks in Haiti.
Trust me, the military side was far happier, paycheck-wise, under Bush than under Obama.
Obama waited three months after his general begged and pleaded for more troops. Even then, Obama only gave McChrystal 75% of what he needed to win this "war of necessity".
Hahahaha I love it. Instead of completely closing down the place 14 days ago, it is being used to provide much needed relief to a humanitarian catastrophe... but repUBES would rather the place be used to torture people indefinitely, than provide life sustanance to others? Is this the rePUBElican argument? OK, let's see which RETARD goes before the American public to make that case.
That's got to be a blood thirsty rePUBE's worst nightmare huh? Not only have they stopped the indefinite incarceration and torture there, ...they're actually using the facility to help those less fortunate!!!
Oh the absolute horror! ::)
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There aren't many facts in politics.
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Did he outlaw MLMers polluting forums with a variety of gobbledygook? No? One-term president.
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Hahahaha I love it. Instead of completely closing down the place 14 days ago, it is being used to provide much needed relief to a humanitarian catastrophe... but repUBES would rather the place be used to torture people indefinitely, than provide life sustanance to others? Is this the rePUBElican argument? OK, let's see which RETARD goes before the American public to make that case.
That's got to be a blood thirsty rePUBE's worst nightmare huh? Not only have they stopped the indefinite incarceration and torture there, ...they're actually using the facility to help those less fortunate!!!
Oh the absolute horror! ::)
Holy shit you're stupid. The entire base isn't closing down, just the detention facility. It's the base, dumbass. The base is supporting Haiti. Not the fucking detention facility.
And you're calling other people retards? ::)
This has to be the pinnacle of your idiocy.
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Obama made it snow because he wants it to look like Chicago. He only forgot one thing. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A RECESSION! And mofos don't want to plow because the counties will not pay overtime, so plow trucks are driving around with their plows up.
yet the fucker wants to talk about health care instead of creating jobs and the economy :-\
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I just addressed the Military crap...how about all the other bullshit. Nice try Jag.
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Hahahaha I love it. Instead of completely closing down the place 14 days ago, it is being used to provide much needed relief to a humanitarian catastrophe... but repUBES would rather the place be used to torture people indefinitely, than provide life sustanance to others? Is this the rePUBElican argument? OK, let's see which RETARD goes before the American public to make that case.
That's got to be a blood thirsty rePUBE's worst nightmare huh? Not only have they stopped the indefinite incarceration and torture there, ...they're actually using the facility to help those less fortunate!!!
Oh the absolute horror! ::)
You must be smoking that stuff!!! When did you ever hear me complain about Gitmo being used to help the folks in Haiti?
In fact, I'm glad that's being done.
One, the people there desperately need help and it's easier to give it to them using Gitmo.
Two, (and this is the point you missed by a country mile, in your haste to flap them silly lips of yours), it makes Obama's grandstanding on closing Gitmo look even MORE RIDICULOUS than it was over a year ago.
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MCWAY already said that he is happy that Gitmo is still open. Just because he points out Obama's broken promises and inconsistencies does not mean that he is unhappy about Gitmo still being open.
EXACTLY!!! Please inform Jaguar of this simple fact, when she comes off her crack-rock high.
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lol
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I just addressed the Military crap...how about all the other bullshit. Nice try Jag.
What can she address? The fucking idiot thinks the jail down there is supporting Haiti and thinks the entire base is getting shut down. Amazing for somebody whose IQ is supposed to be that of Einstein or greater.