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R.I.P (Patrick Matsuda was a NPC USA competitor and he won the 2001 USA middle-weight title)
http://www.kget.com/news/local/story/Man-beaten-stabbed-to-death-outside-home/Y2__8jq1_US8WH8oK1uG5Q.cspx (http://www.kget.com/news/local/story/Man-beaten-stabbed-to-death-outside-home/Y2__8jq1_US8WH8oK1uG5Q.cspx)
http://www.bakersfield.com/news/local/x1740999226/Questions-cloud-beating-death (http://www.bakersfield.com/news/local/x1740999226/Questions-cloud-beating-death)
Police are still looking for suspects -- and answers -- as they try to understand what went wrong early Sunday morning in a southwest Bakersfield neighborhood when a simple argument turned into the beating and stabbing death of local resident Patrick Shinge Matsuda.
Among the questions: Why did Patrick Matsuda punch a man and woman at a party across the street from Matsuda's home? Matsuda apparently crossed the street in an attempt to quiet the party, which he felt was too rowdy and loud. In addition, why did Matsuda grab a baseball bat instead of retreating into his house when he was outnumbered and pursued back across the street after the initial confrontation?
The 40-year-old, who won a national bodybuilding competition in 2001, was outnumbered at the time he picked up the bat, police said.
Police said Monday they arrested a 19-year-old neighbor on murder charges and announced they are looking for at least one more suspect.
The final moments were witnessed by his 29-year-old wife, Annette, who said in an interview Monday that she screamed repeatedly to the attackers, "Stop, you're killing him."
But Matsuda's wife and the mother of three of his four children said they didn't stop until he stopped moving and was gasping for air. The group of about 15 men and women around him scattered after she yelled the police were on the way.
She said she tried to stop the bleeding in the arms of her sweater, but neither that nor an attempt by a police officer to administer CPR could save his life. He died on the way to the hospital, she said.
Police said they are looking for a second man who struck Matsuda on the back of his head with a bat, causing Matsuda to fall.
He's described as a white or Hispanic man, early 20s, 5-foot-10, 160 pounds, short dark hair, possibly a goatee, with tattoos on his arms and the lower part of the back of his neck.
Police reported they arrested Blayne Allen Clifford, 19, a neighbor from across the street from the Matsuda home in the 4300 block of Whitegate Avenue, just west of Stonecreek Park.
The incident began about 2:20 a.m. Sunday as Matsuda went up to talk to a man and a woman in front of Clifford's house about a loud party there.
Mrs. Matsuda said that home has been a frequent problem, with an unkempt appearance and loud parties, in the upper middle class neighborhood. Despite that, she said, she would sometimes care for a 5-year-old girl who lived there.
Bakersfield police went to that home four times in the last year for reports of loud parties, underage drinking, peace disturbances and drug use, police spokeswoman Sgt. Mary DeGeare confirmed.
Several windows of the house were boarded up Monday and a city sign on the front said it was uninhabitable. Mrs. Matsuda said Clifford's family lived there about two years.
Police gave the following description of what happened: Matsuda argued with a man and struck him in the face. The woman intervened as the man went for help. Matsuda assaulted the woman.
Several party goers, including Clifford, ran from the house toward Matsuda as he retreated into his own driveway. Matsuda grabbed a bat from his garage.
Clifford ran back and got two bats from his house. Matsuda chased the party goers back across the street, striking the first woman on the arm with a bat.
Clifford gave a bat to the other suspect, who struck Matsuda in the head, knocking him to the ground.
Clifford hit Matsuda as he was on the round. Others joined in hitting and kicking Matsuda as he was on the ground.
Mrs. Matsuda, the victim's wife of seven years, said she was awakened by the commotion and she came out to see her husband knocked to the ground and surrounded by about 15 males and females.
She said she dialed 911 and screamed to the crowd to stop hurting her husband. She yelled she was on the phone with police.
"Even when he wasn't moving they were beating him," she said.
An autopsy showed Matsuda died from the beating and puncture wounds, police said.
Matsuda was described by his wife as quiet and introverted. He put her and her children first, she said. He participated in the soccer and wrestling activities of his children, and loved to take them camping in Cambria and Three Rivers, teaching them how to fish.
She said she was attracted to "his kindness," and he was "real sweet, generous and caring."
Matsuda, a 1993 graduate of Cal State Bakersfield in physical education, worked as a health, safety and environment representative for Helmerich and Payne drilling company.
His boss, Jesse Pierce, described him as "extremely dedicated and loyal. If you give him a task, there was absolutely no doubt it would get done." He called the killing "senseless" and that his life was "stolen from his kids that he loved so much."
Matsuda, who won a national bodybuilding competition in 2001, leaves behind three daughters, ages 5, 7 and 13, and a son, 12.
He was born in Hawaii and graduated from high school in Mililani on Oahu. He came to Bakersfield to wrestle for CSUB.
"I hope justice is served," Pierce said.
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steroids make you delusional but they dont make you super man , prolly went over to the party with a bad attitude and got pwned by twinks
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one of murders was arrested
http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/ (http://www.bakersfieldnow.com/)
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Couidnt they have settled the dispute with a posedown?
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Couidnt they have settled the dispute with a posedown?
Maybe there were no thongs available?
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so shitty. probably killed because they were scared that if they stopped beating and stabbing him, he was so big that hed just get right back up and beat the shit out of them. rip!
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Best course of action would have been to call the Police from the start and not go over to the house. Never be afraid of dialing 911. Dialing 911 does not make you less of a man, it may even save your life.
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Very sad. May he RIP.
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I hope all those mother fuckers get killed.............I cant fukin stand lowlife thugs like the ones who killed this guy!!
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Damn, that's a pretty bad way to go. And in front of his wife, no less :-\
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It's too bad, the man was a legend.
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I wonder who he left his thongs to in his will.
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Sad, he had a very good physique, beat out Tito Raymond that year :-\
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Evolution has an uncanny penchant for weeding out those who make foolish misjudgements as was the case in this particular incident.
"Our adrenal glands are too big and our frontal lobes are too small" - Christopher Hitchens.
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R.I.P
(Patrick Matsuda was a NPC USA competitor and he won the 2001 USA middle-weight title)
http://www.kget.com/news/local/story/Man-beaten-stabbed-to-death-outside-home/Y2__8jq1_US8WH8oK1uG5Q.cspx (http://www.kget.com/news/local/story/Man-beaten-stabbed-to-death-outside-home/Y2__8jq1_US8WH8oK1uG5Q.cspx)
http://www.bakersfield.com/news/local/x1740999226/Questions-cloud-beating-death (http://www.bakersfield.com/news/local/x1740999226/Questions-cloud-beating-death)
Police are still looking for suspects -- and answers -- as they try to understand what went wrong early Sunday morning in a southwest Bakersfield neighborhood when a simple argument turned into the beating and stabbing death of local resident Patrick Shinge Matsuda.
I hate that so much when people say that - What went wrong ::) what went wrong ::) - like its neccesary to calm the gen population down by establishing the fact that the guy got his ass kicked because he mouthed of too some people with a short fuse = rest of gen population thinks, I'll be fine as long as I don't do that, I'm glad I know that now so I don't need to be afraid anymore.
Its the same when you hear somebody say: Oh yeah friend of mine died yesterday, he was only 30 years old - and the first question is always... WHAt did he die from? What happend?
And the only reason people need to know that is because they want to take what ever he died of the their list... he was smoking ... puh I'm save I don't do that.
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I hate that so much when people say that - What went wrong ::) what went wrong ::) - like its neccesary to calm the gen population down by establishing the fact that the guy got his ass kicked because he mouthed of too some people with a short fuse = rest of gen population thinks, I'll be fine as long as I don't do that, I'm glad I know that now so I don't need to be afraid anymore.
Its the same when you hear somebody say: Oh yeah friend of mine died yesterday, he was only 30 years old - and the first question is always... WHAt did he die from? What happend?
And the only reason people need to know that is because they want to take what ever he died of the their list... he was smoking ... puh I'm save I don't do that.
Not really. The DA wants to build an extensive and bulletproof case.
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Not really. The DA wants to build an extensive and bulletproof case.
wonder if anyone will mourn when you are beaten to death
meh, parents are dead so that leaves no one
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wonder if anyone will mourn when you are beaten to death
meh, parents are dead so that leaves no one
hes to busy cowering in the shadows to confront any one
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I hope all those mother fuckers get killed.............I cant fukin stand lowlife thugs like the ones who killed this guy!!
Agreed.
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Hispanic man, early 20s, 5-foot-10, 160 pounds, short dark hair, possibly a goatee, with tattoos on his arms and the lower part of the back of his neck.
That narrows it down
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wonder if anyone will mourn when you are beaten to death
meh, parents are dead so that leaves no one
You will only get as far as an American jail cell. Never will you get the privilege of laying eyes or hands on yours truly.
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I hope all those mother fuckers get killed.............I cant fukin stand lowlife thugs like the ones who killed this guy!!
Matsuda hit one of their girlfriends with a bat....he threatened them with the bat first, chasing them. it was instigated by patrick from what the article said.
did he need to get mud holed by a bunch of idiots? no.
did he need to die? no
did he bite off more than he could chew?...i guess so
the bottom line is that if youre going to start shit with a house full of drunk party goers....there are a few rules:
1) ask getbig for advices FIRST
2) have a post count of at least 1000 to bolster street cred
3) hit a "most muscular" before any chase begins
4) wear your damn tapout shirt so your foes know who theyre dealing with!
these simple rules can save lives
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Apparently they were dealing drugs in that "party-house."
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Apparently they were dealing drugs in that "party-house."
even more reason not to fuck with them
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Matsuda hit one of their girlfriends with a bat....he threatened them with the bat first, chasing them. it was instigated by patrick from what the article said.
did he need to get mud holed by a bunch of idiots? no.
did he need to die? no
did he bite off more than he could chew?...i guess so
the bottom line is that if youre going to start shit with a house full of drunk party goers....there are a few rules:
1) ask getbig for advices FIRST
2) have a post count of at least 1000 to bolster street cred
3) hit a "most muscular" before any chase begins
4) wear your damn tapout shirt so your foes know who theyre dealing with!
these simple rules can save lives
I agree with what you wrote in bold. Its sad and just a horrible thing that he got killed and left a widow and 3 kids without a father, so the people responsible should be punished. But the fact is that he started the whole thing and actually hit the other guy first, chased them with a bat and actually hit a woman with the bat. No man deserves any respect after hitting a woman, so I actually don't feel sorry for him. I just feel for his wife and kids.
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This could have been prevented if the trouble house were burned to the ground months ago when problems first arose. Thats how you take care of undesirables in your neighborhood.
And regardless of whether they were loud or not, he punched a chick and then later hit another one with a bat......not exactly Mr. Innocent here. Sad for his wife and kids though.
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They were 15 people hitting him in the end right? As he was lying down on the pavement?
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He deserved it ,
-He didn't call the police.
-He punched someone in the face .
-He hitted a girl with a bat .
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sad...
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This is what happens when keepin' it real goes wrong. . .
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Hispanic man, early 20s, 5-foot-10, 160 pounds, short dark hair, possibly a goatee, with tattoos on his arms and the lower part of the back of his neck.
That narrows it down
Not really, not in that town
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This is what happens when keepin' it real goes wrong. . .
;D
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So the police believe the drug house members account of what happened?
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next time he ll think twice about doing justice himslef and attacking people with a bat. Looks like he wasnt very mature and watched too many superheroes movies.
How stupid you have to be to attack people in your close neighborhood with a fucking bat and hope nothing bad is going to follow?
His wife says he was always puting her and his kids safety first...I beg to differ.
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Gotta know when to pick your fights. Never challenge a house full of druggies and dirty Mexicans by decking one of them and hitting one of their whores. It's a sad story, but the guy has got zero street smarts if that's how this all began.
Would have been much better to call the cops and watch everyone get arrested on possession and distribution charges. Then he'd have a long term solution instead of being 6 feet under. His ego probably got the best of him. Either way, hope his family copes with their loss. RIP.
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so shitty. probably killed because they were scared that if they stopped beating and stabbing him, he was so big that hed just get right back up and beat the shit out of them. rip!
lol you clearely identifies yourself with him. Retard. Dont you have some people to run after with a bat in your neighborhood?
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The guy made a bad decision, agree with TA, should have called the cops.
I gotta say, who knows what happened, the guy will never get to tell his side of the story.
Though it's traditionally dishonorable to hit a woman, many girls these days don't act like women and often start physical altercations.
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Holy shi#$# !!!! Pat used to sell our products and we sponsored him.Man this sucks, Pat, was a great guy!!!!
He was nice soft spoken, but didnt take any crap.I know what ever happened Pat didnt start the fight, Pat wasnt that way.
This person must have really realy provoked him........PAT RIP.......He was a great man and a great athlete.
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If this guy threw the first punch, hitting a guy and girl, and then grabbed a bat and swinging at these people, hitting another girl in the arm, I'm sorry to say but he called down the thunder. If a guy is swinging at bat at everyone and hitting girls, that warrents a beat down of the 1st order. too bad he had to die though
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Assholes
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This is what happens when keepin' it real goes wrong. . .
Yes there's plenty that can go wrong when you're one guy fucking with a party at 2 am, especially cracking a guy's girlfriend with a bat. He should have known. People under the influence don't give a shit.
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Getbig members would have taken them all down easily!!!
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never go up to another mans house with a bat, u gotta be fukin stupid especially in durham nc u just dont do that, some people have rage and thats normal but one should never take it out on a person, u might accidently kill someone or be killed
i remember one time in highschool i kinda hit this other dude in the chest/sternum and it almost killed him, i was really scared i was gonna go to the prison, i regret acts of rage even online acts
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he needed this
(http://content6.flixster.com/photo/41/26/43/4126432_gal.jpg)
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Well, unfortunately it wasn't normal people that was in that party, but drugged up gang-members.
Pity he didn't call the police.
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A tragedy indeed. However as others have said he did start the ruckus.
If he had even 1% of the brain of say a 3x (at least) uncrowned Mr. O, he would've just called the police. ;D
You can't just go over to someone's house and start hitting people with bats and shit.
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Well the only problem here was that this Pat guy dind't take a shotgun... That could have saved his life!
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Getitonny - I also knew Pat and agree with you 100%. He was a great guy! My condolences to all his loved ones. I'm sure there will be a big memorial held in Hawaii.
RIP, Patrick
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Huh? An article about a bodybuilder grabbing a bat and raging on some partyers and not a single mention of the word 'steroids' or 'roid rage'?? I'm disappointed.
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Very sad to hear. Pat was a good guy. Black belt in Judo, and stud wrestler. Fought in NHB prior to his 2001 USA victory. Very sad.
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Very sad to hear. Pat was a good guy. Black belt in Judo, and stud wrestler. Fought in NHB prior to his 2001 USA victory. Very sad.
Oh, well — he wasn't going
to write Beethoven's Ninth Symphony anyway.
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yes seeing as that has already been done
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http://www.turnto23.com/south_county/22515452/detail.html (http://www.turnto23.com/south_county/22515452/detail.html)
The teen accused in the beating death of a former bodybuilder and CSUB wrestler appeared in court Tuesday afternoon. Clifford was arrested on charges of first-degree murder and assault with a deadly weapon in connection with the beating death of Patrick Matsuda. He's being held on $1 million bail.
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I think we're not getting the whole story. You think young gang bangers with drugs in the house didn't have a major part in escalating this situation? I'm sure there is more to it.
Still Pat made a bad decision by not calling the cops.
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I think we're not getting the whole story.
Exactly. From what I've read the only (probably missed a lot but hey it was a long story...) His wife came out shortly before he was knocked down. So all of the 'facts' before that would be coming from the mob...
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Very sad to hear. Pat was a good guy. Black belt in Judo, and stud wrestler. Fought in NHB prior to his 2001 USA victory. Very sad.
looks like being a "black belt in judo" didnt help him much when he was being beaten to death by a mob of...teens.
one of his killers:
(http://www.turnto23.com/2010/0210/22515538_640X480.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01570/Death-Cat_1570116c.jpg)
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So a big dude and a former wrestler, he should have been able to take down a few dudes on his own, no wonder they ran, and probably hit him with a cheap shot with the bat.
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rip
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Stunt Movie, If you know Pat you know that this is totally not like him.Pat was calm and cool.They must have really really pissed him off.Pat was really close to his mother, he was his mothers pride and joy.I do feel bad for the fools who did this because Pat had some very deep connections in Hawaii.So I would be suprised if some Island boys came over to the states to put the clowns who did this in check.Pat knew a lot of very good Hawaiian Fighters.
Hawaiin people are very loyal to each other, and they are going to take thie personal.
If you mess with one Hawaiin , you mess with all Hawaiins.
This I know my uncle, and cousins are Hawaiian.
All I can say is this guy, will probably have grief when he gets out on bail or when he goes to jail.I know that Pats friends will not let this go.I know right now his mother is in shambles, and his friends are in rage!
Stunt, do you know Mike, or Brandon aswell? They are very tight with Pat?
Pat RIP brother, you were a good man, and you will be missed
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A tragedy indeed. However as others have said he did start the ruckus.
If he had even 1% of the brain of say a 3x (at least) uncrowned Mr. O, he would've just called the police. ;D
You can't just go over to someone's house and start hitting people with bats and shit.
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't go over to someone's house BY YOURSELF and start hitting people with bats. And you sure as fuck don't start hitting chicks with bats. 3 or 4 grown men would have demolished these fucking punks. Plus it sounded like Matsuda was sucker punched in the back of the head. I applaud this guy for trying to handle these stupid punks. Just wish someone else would have been there to watch his back. It's time more neighbors start pulling shit like this in order to clean up the trash that is infesting California neighborhoods. The fucking mexican trash, the drug trash etc. And just because you're a fucking girl doesn't mean your innocent. I know some pretty mouthy mean bitches that could kick the shit out of some dudes. Plus they'd sucker punch your ass in a heartbeat if they had the chance, especially some of those ghetto mexican girls..........they are mean. Cops have been to that house 4 times in the last year? WTF? Cops are fucking worthless for shit like this. His blood is on their hands. That house should have been fired bombed. And look at this stupid fucks mom feeling sorry for her gang banging stupid punk of a son. Throw that girl bitch in jail too. This shit pisses me off!
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looks like being a "black belt in judo" didnt help him much when he was being beaten to death by a mob of...teens.
one of his killers:
(http://www.turnto23.com/2010/0210/22515538_640X480.jpg)
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01570/Death-Cat_1570116c.jpg)
Yeah and when someone sucker punches you in the back of the head let's see how long you last? LOL.
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I think there should be a near no holds barred approach to deal with people in organized gangs. They are a f'n plague on society and should be dealt with in a harsh manner. I can't even imagine living in southern california surrounded by this sh-t.
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Stunt Movie, If you know Pat you know that this is totally not like him.Pat was calm and cool.They must have really really pissed him off.Pat was really close to his mother, he was his mothers pride and joy.I do feel bad for the fools who did this because Pat had some very deep connections in Hawaii.So I would be suprised if some Island boys came over to the states to put the clowns who did this in check.Pat knew a lot of very good Hawaiian Fighters.
Hawaiin people are very loyal to each other, and they are going to take thie personal.
If you mess with one Hawaiin , you mess with all Hawaiins.
This I know my uncle, and cousins are Hawaiian.
All I can say is this guy, will probably have grief when he gets out on bail or when he goes to jail.I know that Pats friends will not let this go.I know right now his mother is in shambles, and his friends are in rage!
Stunt, do you know Mike, or Brandon aswell? They are very tight with Pat?
Pat RIP brother, you were a good man, and you will be missed
Yeah right......we'll see. I hope they do. But I've seen this bullshit pan out a hundred times. So called Hawaiin brotherhood eh? Yeah right. There was a surfer in a tight nit community here in San Diego that went through a similar situation. Outnumbered and killed by a bunch of punks. So far nothing happened to any of them and he was from "Hawaii". Again I hope you're right. I hope they take out these fucking punks. But I doubt it.
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;D
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I think there should be a near no holds barred approach to deal with people in organized gangs. They are a f'n plague on society and should be dealt with in a harsh manner. I can't even imagine living in southern california surrounded by this sh-t.
Yeah and the fucking pathetic thing is this was an upper middle class neighborhood supposedly judging by the houses. How the fuck does this asshole kid afford a $500K home? His mom looks like a piece of shit drugged up ####. In SoCal it doesn't matter where the fuck you live. gangs, mexican trash, drug dealers etc. Bakersfield, Fresno, LA, San Diego. It's everywhere. Hell I feel safer driving through Compton than I do driving through parts of Fresno or Bakersfield. Mexicans are 99% of the gang problems in southern california right now. But the pussy ass white people and everyone else just sit back and let them trash their neighborhoods while the rich fucks live behind their gates.
The Fresno bulldogs were bad a few years ago. Fresno tried to clean the shit up but now they are making a comeback again. Hell I think mexican gangbangers are worse than the blacks. Just one more reason why I carry a sawed off shotgun in my truck :)
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Oh, well — he wasn't going
to write Beethoven's Ninth Symphony anyway.
No, because only Beethoven can do that.
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Yeah and the fucking pathetic thing is this was an upper middle class neighborhood supposedly judging by the houses. How the fuck does this asshole kid afford a $500K home? His mom looks like a piece of shit drugged up ####. In SoCal it doesn't matter where the fuck you live. gangs, mexican trash, drug dealers etc. Bakersfield, Fresno, LA, San Diego. It's everywhere. Hell I feel safer driving through Compton than I do driving through parts of Fresno or Bakersfield. Mexicans are 99% of the gang problems in southern california right now. But the pussy ass white people and everyone else just sit back and let them trash their neighborhoods while the rich fucks live behind their gates.
The Fresno bulldogs were bad a few years ago. Fresno tried to clean the shit up but now they are making a comeback again. Hell I think mexican gangbangers are worse than the blacks. Just one more reason why I carry a sawed off shotgun in my truck :)
The house should have been quietly burned to the ground months ago. Thats how you get undesirables out of your neighborhood.
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Some sad shit.
RIP brother.
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I hope all those mother fuckers get killed.............I cant fukin stand lowlife thugs like the ones who killed this guy!!
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It won't make anything right, but the entire mob should be executed.
On sight.
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Just one more reason why I carry a sawed off shotgun in my truck :)
thats just stupid....youll be treated like those same gangbangers when you get caught
1) get a carry permit
2) buy a pistol
3) keep it in your pocket
legal = power
you shoot someone or even get caught with a sawed off shotgun you get locked up for a long time
do it legally and youll be home with your family in 8 hours or less.
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He committed the cardinal sin in life...he went to a posedown without being oiled up, he could have wriggled out from the Mob and beaten them down with his 11th Dan Kungfu, a requirement for Getbig membership admission.Learn from Jason Statham
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Stunt Movie, If you know Pat you know that this is totally not like him.Pat was calm and cool.They must have really really pissed him off.Pat was really close to his mother, he was his mothers pride and joy.I do feel bad for the fools who did this because Pat had some very deep connections in Hawaii.So I would be suprised if some Island boys came over to the states to put the clowns who did this in check.Pat knew a lot of very good Hawaiian Fighters.
Hawaiin people are very loyal to each other, and they are going to take thie personal.
If you mess with one Hawaiin , you mess with all Hawaiins.
This I know my uncle, and cousins are Hawaiian.
All I can say is this guy, will probably have grief when he gets out on bail or when he goes to jail.I know that Pats friends will not let this go.I know right now his mother is in shambles, and his friends are in rage!
Stunt, do you know Mike, or Brandon aswell? They are very tight with Pat?
Pat RIP brother, you were a good man, and you will be missed
ha no, not the childish myths and legends again.... He got owned and the story ends here.
He's dead cause he acted like an immature moron first and foremost, period. Must have been losing his mind right after a test injection. Felt an adrenaline rush and envisionned himself as superman for 5 minutes until he got violently recalled to reality.
Whatever the way you look at it, it's one of the stupidest death that could possibly happen. I also suspect there were troubles between him and these losers long before this "incident". A normal grown up adult who TRULY cares about his family would have backed down or moved away. Seriously, what really happened before, we dont know. To react that way he must have felt harassed for a while.
The guy obviously watched too many actions movies and thought his "muscle mass" meant he was a god amongst ants.
pack of drunk spoiled teens with bats : 1 delusional musclefag who needed anger management : 0
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Seriously, he punched a man outside the house, then proceeded to punch the woman with him, he then ran and got a bat and hit another woman with it, isnt hard to see why this went wrong.
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I hate more white cowards than non-white trash! If people stood against these fuckers they wouldn't be terrorizing anybody's neighborhood!
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What kind of drugs to the USA Champion have to be on to go over to a house full with people with nothing to lose at 2am and start crack'n skulls...
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What kind of drugs to the USA Champion have to be on to go over to a house full with people with nothing to lose at 2am and start crack'n skulls...
It's called balls. Many people are lacking them nowadays. These gang banging punks will live on to wreak more havoc on middle class neighborhoods.
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It's called balls. Many people are lacking them nowadays. These gang banging punks will live on to wreak more havoc on middle class neighborhoods.
Balls don`t put people in jail. Cops do.
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It's called balls. Many people are lacking them nowadays. These gang banging punks will live on to wreak more havoc on middle class neighborhoods.
i don't buy it...He picked up a bat and used it...That's not ballz bro...Thats meth/coke/PCP or insanity...He did this all with his children less then 100 feet away ...He's lucky the mob didn't burn down his house...
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ESPN never reported this.
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i don't buy it...He picked up a bat and used it...That's not ballz bro...Thats meth/coke/PCP or insanity...He did this all with his children less then 100 feet away ...He's lucky the mob didn't burn down his house...
You've obviously never lived in a neighborhood with people like that. I have. The cops were called 4 times. And nothing happened. If I worked my ass off and had a family living in an upscale neighborhood I wouldn't want some fucking gang banging punks ruining my quality of life having drugs and parties around all the time. This guy went about it the wrong way and paid the ultimate price. But like I said earlier if other guys in the neighborhood would have teamed up and showed these losers a lesson they would have gotten the message. Punks like this only understand fear. You have to make them fear that anything they do would be answered with violence the likes of which they have never seen.
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i don't buy it...He picked up a bat and used it...That's not ballz bro...Thats meth/coke/PCP or insanity...He did this all with his children less then 100 feet away ...He's lucky the mob didn't burn down his house...
You have no idea what was said. Maybe the young punk threatened his wife or kids.....threatened to murder them. Maybe there was other shit going on. Look at the responses in this thread. Bunch of fucking pussies. No wonder crime is out of control, gangs are all around, and middle class neighborhoods are going to shit. Nobody is willing to do anything to protect their neighborhoods.
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He was wrong.
If a dude come to my house and hit my wife with a bat I would kill that man .
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You've obviously never lived in a neighborhood with people like that. I have. The cops were called 4 times. And nothing happened. If I worked my ass off and had a family living in an upscale neighborhood I wouldn't want some fucking gang banging punks ruining my quality of life having drugs and parties around all the time. This guy went about it the wrong way and paid the ultimate price. But like I said earlier if other guys in the neighborhood would have teamed up and showed these losers a lesson they would have gotten the message. Punks like this only understand fear. You have to make them fear that anything they do would be answered with violence the likes of which they have never seen.
if if if.... the fantasm you re talking about is just that, a fantasm. Normal people move away. They are individualistic. Especially white people. Those who lose their temper like this guy only aggravate the situation and risk their loved ones lifes. I thought u d be smarter than that.
The ones that stick together are blacks, muslims, indians, asians... not whites. So they better move away cause they re not going to "ally" with anyone.
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if if if.... the fantasm you re talking about is just that, a fantasm. Normal people move away. They are individualistic. Especially white people. Those who lose their temper like this guy only aggravate the situation and risk their loved ones lifes. I thought u d be smarter than that.
The ones that stick together are blacks, muslims, indians, asians... not whites. So they better move away cause they re not going to "ally" with anyone.
He doesn't look to white to me
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if if if.... the fantasm you re talking about is just that, a fantasm. Normal people move away. They are individualistic. Especially white people. Those who lose their temper like this guy only aggravate the situation and risk their loved ones lifes. I thought u d be smarter than that.
The ones that stick together are blacks, muslims, indians, asians... not whites. So they better move away cause they re not going to "ally" with anyone.
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for once i agree with your dribble....
dont shit where you eat. if you dont like your neighborhood because you fear for your safety and the safety of your family....move.
LOL at "rallying" against the gangbangers!!! some people have been watching too many charles bronson movies....if you want to live their lifestyle...cool, go after them and be just like them. if you want to live like a normal person....use your brain, not your bat.
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Again, house should have been burned to the ground months prior and all this would have been avoided.
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Again, house should have been burned to the ground months prior and all this would have been avoided.
wiring issue perhaps? hmmmm
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wiring issue perhaps? hmmmm
haha, yes, I have known a couple of "electricians" who could handle that job wes....
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This is why I choose to live in a gated and secure community.
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This is why I choose to live in a gated and secure community.
LOL = PUSSY.
There won't be any "white" middle class neighborhoods if this shit keeps up, especially in CA. What you'll have is the rich living behind their gated communities and everyone else.
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LOL = PUSSY.
There won't be any "white" middle class neighborhoods if this shit keeps up, especially in CA. What you'll have is the rich living behind their gated communities and everyone else.
Doesn't seem like blacks and asians are the problems in a lot of CA these days.
Mostly prodominately mexicans/hispanic gangs taken over and a bunch of pussy white people fearing them :-\
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It's called balls. Many people are lacking them nowadays. These gang banging punks will live on to wreak more havoc on middle class neighborhoods.
Its called stupidity.
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Evolution has an uncanny penchant for weeding out those who make foolish misjudgements as was the case in this particular incident.
"Our adrenal glands are too big and our frontal lobes are too small" - Christopher Hitchens.
Spoken like a true fool, if your statement was correct. you wouldn't be around to make it. Personally, I am stunned at the large proportion of idiots roaming the globe, Evolution has obviously forgotten about them. The man died standing up for the rights of the ordinary man. I am glad real men like him still exist. A couple of years ago i had three drunken idiots causing a disturbance at three in the morning, I went out and whacked one of them with a baseball bat and clean broke his arm. I was charged for intentionally causing serious injury and several other charges and was convicted and fined $500. That was the best $500 I ever spent, it felt great to break a complete FU*KWITS arm and I have no regrets. I consider myself considerate and thoughtful of others, but after years of trouble with my idiot neighbour he finally got what was coming to him, the problem is people believe they have the right to behave any way the want in their own home regardless of the negative impact on others, at least this man died fighting for what he believed in, a little bit of Peace and quiet. REST in PEACE
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I agree with what you wrote in bold. Its sad and just a horrible thing that he got killed and left a widow and 3 kids without a father, so the people responsible should be punished. But the fact is that he started the whole thing and actually hit the other guy first, chased them with a bat and actually hit a woman with the bat. No man deserves any respect after hitting a woman, so I actually don't feel sorry for him. I just feel for his wife and kids.
You idiot, he didn't start it his neighbour did by partying well into the morning, what could be more provocative than deliberately keeping a person awake. Deliberate sleep deprivation is used during wartime as a torture but for some reason idiots like you think it is OK to do it in everyday society.
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Spoken like a true fool, if your statement was correct. you wouldn't be around to make it. Personally, I am stunned at the large proportion of idiots roaming the globe, Evolution has obviously forgotten about them. The man died standing up for the rights of the ordinary man. I am glad real men like him still exist. A couple of years ago i had three drunken idiots causing a disturbance at three in the morning, I went out and whacked one of them with a baseball bat and clean broke his arm. I was charged for intentionally causing serious injury and several other charges and was convicted and fined $500. That was the best $500 I ever spent, it felt great to break a complete FU*KWITS arm and I have no regrets. I consider myself considerate and thoughtful of others, but after years of trouble with my idiot neighbour he finally got what was coming to him, the problem is people believe they have the right to behave any way the want in their own home regardless of the negative impact on others, at least this man died fighting for what he believed in, a little bit of Peace and quiet. REST in PEACE
Poor Survival Scheme as evidenced by the outcome.
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Poor Survival Scheme as evidenced by the outcome.
Maybe, but he died a man, when the majority die as cowards.
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Spoken like a true fool, if your statement was correct. you wouldn't be around to make it. Personally, I am stunned at the large proportion of idiots roaming the globe, Evolution has obviously forgotten about them. The man died standing up for the rights of the ordinary man. I am glad real men like him still exist. A couple of years ago i had three drunken idiots causing a disturbance at three in the morning, In West Philadelphia born and raised On the playground is where I spent most of my days Chillin' out maxin' relaxin' all cool And all shootin' some b-ball outside of the school When a couple of guys who were up to no good
Started makin' trouble in my neighborhood I went out and whacked one of them with a baseball bat and clean broke his arm. I was charged for intentionally causing serious injury and several other charges and was convicted and fined $500. I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 And I yelled to the cabbie 'yo homes smell ya later' Looked at my kingdom I was finally there To sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel-AirThat was the best $500 I ever spent, it felt great to break a complete FU*KWITS arm and I have no regrets. I consider myself considerate and thoughtful of others, but after years of trouble with my idiot neighbour he finally got what was coming to him, the problem is people believe they have the right to behave any way the want in their own home regardless of the negative impact on others, at least this man died fighting for what he believed in, a little bit of Peace and quiet. REST in PEACE
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You idiot, he didn't start it his neighbour did by partying well into the morning, what could be more provocative than deliberately keeping a person awake. Deliberate sleep deprivation is used during wartime as a torture but for some reason idiots like you think it is OK to do it in everyday society.
NO, he started the physical aggression against other people. There is a difference in attacking someone than it is to disturb or annoy with anything. Sleep deprivation is not ok in my mind either, but the guy should've been smart and called the police instead of trying to play hero. His "macho" attitude now left his wife as a widow and 3 children with no father, yes real "balls" on him. ::)
You got away by playing all tough once as your story says so, but lets see if that can happen again. You should be grateful nothing happened to you.
Thanks for the insults by the way, it just shows your attitude and probably why you think hitting a woman is fine.
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NO, he started the physical aggression against other people. There is a difference in attacking someone than it is to disturb or annoy with anything. Sleep deprivation is not OK in my mind either, but the guy could've been smart and called the police instead of trying to play hero. His "macho" attitude now left his wife as a widow and 3 children with no father, yes real "balls" on him. ::)
You got away by playing all tough once as your story says so, but lets see if that can happen again. You should be grateful nothing happened to you.
Thanks for the insults by the way, it just shows your attitude and probably why you think hitting a woman is fine.
Insults are free, and you are welcome. I consider it an assault if my neighbours party loudly through the night and keep me awake, he went over there, asked them to stop and they didn't comply, so he did what any man would do, he STOOD UP FOR HIMSELF, rather than be emasculated by a group of punks. I live in Australia, and over here ringing the police is a complete waste of time, you're lucky if they turn up3 or 4 hours later. I have tried ringing the police before, but to no avail. In regards to my situation with my neighbour, I would do it all again, and by the way they never, I mean never acted out again and six months later the idiot left and now there is peace and quiet. So, sometimes you have to do what you have to do, if I hadn't broken his arm, he would probably be terrorising me and my neighbours still. And by calling you and Idiot, it just shows my frustration with narrow minded individuals who don't see the bigger picture and the real case behind tragedies such as this, anyway I am sure you are MAN enough to handle it. ;D
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This E-Kul guy sounds like one bad mofo......best not be disturbing him or he will break your arm "clean" with a baseball bat...... :o
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trashy neighborhood
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This E-Kul guy sounds like one bad mofo......best not be disturbing him or he will break your arm "clean" with a baseball bat...... :o
maybe with a mace, braveheart style. Seems to me most of these guys on here get their hero like delusions from the movies anyway. a few more E-Kuls in iraq and Afghanistan and we could wrap this whole war thing up in 3 weeks
CHHHAAAAAAAAARRRGE!
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He was wrong.
If a dude come to my house and hit my wife with a bat I would kill that man .
Do we know 100 % of the story and what happened?
I don't think he just knocked on the door and then slugged the first one who opened without talking.
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I am pretty sure there is alot more to this story than Pat just walking over and starting shit. He was very well liked in hawaii. from the looks of it and the guys involved I am sure there is alot more. These guys were low life drug dealing mexicans. The only thing he did wrong was go over with a bat. should have had one of those shotguns that shoot like 300 rounds a minute. Then he would have walked away after blowing them all away,
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For example, the situation may have become very threatening and he slugged the closest one as a way of self-defence / defending his life.
Who knows what exactly happened, with drugged people with knives, syringes etc
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I knew Pat, we sponsored him and he distributed our product from time to time.Pat was very soft spoken polite, and a gentleman at all times.These guys must have spit in his face or talked about his wife or mother in a negative way.Pat was not a person who would just go and grab a bat.He must have been greatly out numbered. Pat can fight, he hung out with alot of Hawaiin fighters.
The bottom line is I beleive Pat felt these people where a threat to his family, so he was defending his family.
Pat was very close to his mother, and his wife.He was a good man.He did not deserve to die like this. I wish I was there when this was going on .I would have had Pats back in a second.
I KNOW Pat did not hit a woman, Pat respected women, he was very close to his mother.If you know anything about humanity, you would know the relationship a man has with his mother reflects what kind of women he will chose and how he will treat them.
Pat had respect for his mother, and he was his moms treasure, she loved Pat.
People please do not bash a good man, who was protecting his family.He is now dead, let him rest in peace.
Its really devious and low class to bash a person is dead.
Pat RIP Brother,You were a good man .
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I knew Pat, we sponsored him and he distributed our product from time to time.Pat was very soft spoken polite, and a gentleman at all times.These guys must have spit in his face or talked about his wife or mother in a negative way.Pat was not a person who would just go and grab a bat.He must have been greatly out numbered. Pat can fight, he hung out with alot of Hawaiin fighters.
The bottom line is I beleive Pat felt these people where a threat to his family, so he was defending his family.
Pat was very close to his mother, and his wife.He was a good man.He did not deserve to die like this. I wish I was there when this was going on .I would have had Pats back in a second.
I KNOW Pat did not hit a woman, Pat respected women, he was very close to his mother.If you know anything about humanity, you would know the relationship a man has with his mother reflects what kind of women he will chose and how he will treat them.
Pat had respect for his mother, and he was his moms treasure, she loved Pat.
People please do not bash a good man, who was protecting his family.He is now dead, let him rest in peace.
Its really devious and low class to bash a person is dead.
Pat RIP Brother,You were a good man .
"HEAR, HEAR" Well stated, You dont need to be Einstein to tell from the news story who is in the right and who is in the wrong. I admire men like Pat fighting the good fight, I didn't know him, but I support any man standing up for what is right and in this case dying for what he believes in. RIP
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Is it me? Or do all USA champs (Craig, Chris, Flex,Newman,etc etc) have an issue or 2?
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Maybe, but he died a man, when the majority die as cowards.
hahaha you ve got to be the stupidest #### i have ever read on getbig. Astonishing stupidity, immaturity, lack of real life experiences and way too many hours spent watching action movies and playing video games.
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hahaha you ve got to be the stupidest #### i have ever read on getbig. Astonishing stupidity, immaturity, lack of real life experiences and way too many hours spent watching action movies and playing video games.
pvp is srs business....
srsly
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I am pretty sure there is alot more to this story than Pat just walking over and starting shit. He was very well liked in hawaii. from the looks of it and the guys involved I am sure there is alot more. These guys were low life drug dealing mexicans. The only thing he did wrong was go over with a bat. should have had one of those shotguns that shoot like 300 rounds a minute. Then he would have walked away after blowing them all away,
Sounds like Pat would have walked over to a Hells Angels party and did the same thing...Which would have also been totally fucking retarded...
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Sounds like Pat would have walked over to a Hells Angels party and did the same thing...Which would have also been totally fucking retarded...
nah totally sane move imo :)
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These guys were low life drug dealing mexicans.
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Mexicans get blame for everything as of lately 8).