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Title: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on February 11, 2010, 09:34:27 AM
We have seen the Twin Towers collapse hundreds of times on TV. The steel and glass skyscrapers exploding like a bag of flour, the dust and smoke pluming out across Manhattan. But never like this, from above.
Nine years after the defining moment of the 21st century, a stunning set of photographs taken by New York Police helicopters forces us to look afresh at a catastrophe we assumed we knew so well.
You know but cannot see the 2,752 men, women and children who died at the World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001. None is visible here.

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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083AACC0000005DC-404_964x696.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083AAE0F000005DC-214_964x710.jpg)

All we see is the spectacular moment of collapse, what film directors call the wide shot, showing the towers in their urban setting, before, during and after their fall.

Even for those who were there, like me, running from the cloud and choking in the dust, it is hard to believe. But what is all too evident to everyone is that this event changed the world, with consequences that will haunt us for decades.

With the Twin Towers collapsed the world we thought we knew.
These dramatic images were taken by police photographers in helicopters and it is the first time they have been seen, having been released under a Freedom of Information request made by America's ABC News.
Burning buildings can be seen crumpling in on themselves as plumes of smoke rise up over the New York skyline that terrible September morning.
The images show how the police helicopter first began taking images from afar before moving in to reveal the devastation taking place underneath.
They also reveal the horror faced by those trapped in the burning buildings and then the walls of smoke and debris that enveloped the surrounding area as the towers came crashing down.
Released more than eight years after the deaths of 2,752 people on that day, they are powerful reminders of the attack that led to wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The legacy of the New York attack continues today with as British forces joining with Afghan soldiers and Nato to launch the biggest attack on the Taliban - accused of harbouring Al Qaeda who organised the 9/11 attack - since the initial 2001 offensive.
Meanwhile, in New York, work is continuing to build on the rubble of what became known as Ground Zero.
Structural steel for the 1,776ft tower, which will be known as 1 World Trade Centre, has already reached 200ft above street level.
Workers are now installing 16 steel nodes on the 20th-floor of the tower which will serve as joints between the steel framing for the building's podium and the steel for the rest of the tower. The 104-storey skyscraper is due to be completed in 2013 and will be one of the tallest buildings in the U.S.

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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083AABF8000005DC-865_964x694.jpg)

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Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: jaejonna on February 11, 2010, 10:25:15 AM
It was helluva more dramatic running my ass to the water ...
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on February 11, 2010, 10:25:51 AM
It was helluva more dramatic running my ass to the water ...

You were there?
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: TrueGrit on February 11, 2010, 10:26:40 AM
And absolutely no sign of Hulk Hogan - I knew those pics were a hoax.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: emn1964 on February 11, 2010, 10:32:23 AM
what an awful day. . .my brother was in an office building a couple blocks away
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: noworries on February 11, 2010, 10:36:04 AM
My buddy Jeff called me when it happened.  he was working on a building across the water.  I turned on the TV and then watched it.  Just unreal. 
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 11, 2010, 10:42:49 AM
Inside Job
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Flexb on February 11, 2010, 10:56:23 AM
I think Bin Landen was on the lake in a boat watching. He wanted front row seats to his destruction
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: emn1964 on February 11, 2010, 10:57:23 AM
I think Bin Landen was on the lake in a boat watching. He wanted front row seats to his destruction

that's not a lake you fucking knob
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Flexb on February 11, 2010, 10:59:12 AM
that's not a lake you fucking knob

Sorry, river you skinny piece of shit  :D
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: saopl on February 11, 2010, 11:07:53 AM
old news.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Mars on February 11, 2010, 11:12:09 AM
We already forgot.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Top Dog on February 11, 2010, 11:13:21 AM
I think Bin Landen was on the lake in a boat watching. He wanted front row seats to his destruction
God, you're an idiot.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Flexb on February 11, 2010, 11:27:44 AM
God, you're an idiot.

Sadam was watching from the Empire Nations building too  :o
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Overload on February 11, 2010, 11:35:29 AM
Yeah it is absolutely amazing how they both fell directly vertical in the same fashion exactly the same way all intentionally demolished buildings fall.

Worst day in the history of this country. Two buildings designed to take the impact of three 747's at the same time collapse in a demo fashion within minutes of each other.

Sad...

8)
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 11, 2010, 11:41:37 AM
I think Bin Landen was on the lake in a boat watching. He wanted front row seats to his destruction

LOL at Bin Laden.  A made up boogey man from the American gov to scare little fucks into voting to go to war in Iraq.

Hey this Saudi who live in afganistan just paid people to fly a plane into a building.  let's get him by going to war in Iraq.  Fucking idiots.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Flexb on February 11, 2010, 11:44:55 AM
LOL at Bin Laden.  A made up boogey man from the American gov to scare little fucks into voting to go to war in Iraq.

Hey this Saudi who live in afganistan just paid people to fly a plane into a building.  let's get him by going to war in Iraq.  Fucking idiots.

Hey, I'm canadian and really don't care  :D
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 11, 2010, 12:30:04 PM
A lot of slack-jawed guys in this thread...
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: tbombz on February 11, 2010, 12:34:35 PM
cant know anyting for sure at the moment, but the way they fell sure is suspicious.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Heywood on February 11, 2010, 12:41:15 PM
And absolutely no sign of Hulk Hogan - I knew those pics were a hoax.

Actually, you're not too far off.  Jessie Ventura was on the scene investigating the whole thing........
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Overload on February 11, 2010, 12:49:08 PM
cant know anyting for sure at the moment, but the way they fell sure is suspicious.

That's true.

All i can say is that when i studied structures in college for my Engineering degree we watched hundreds of controlled demolitions of tall buildings. They were all identical to the trade centers. Even the structural engineers and architects for the twin towers said what happen on 9/11 was impossible without controlled demolition.

Just food for thought.

8)
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 11, 2010, 12:51:57 PM
That's true.

All i can say is that when i studied structures in college for my Engineering degree we watched hundreds of controlled demolitions of tall buildings. They were all identical to the trade centers. Even the structural engineers and architects for the twin towers said what happen on 9/11 was impossible without controlled demolition.

Just food for thought.

8)

That and how convenient in a month bush signed the bill to form DHS with thousands of employees, signed a bill to go to war, raise spending on the military into the trillion $ range without a fight by anyone in congress.  FUcking scheme was orchestrated perfectly.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Mars on February 11, 2010, 01:06:23 PM
there are still so much questions to ask about what truly happend.

-the fbi helped bombing the world trade center before.

-what about building 7

-a rockafeller had told of what was going to happen months before.

Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: no one on February 11, 2010, 01:14:10 PM

even IF the truth come out americans as a population will never care to really do enough about it anyway.

as long as they feel protected from the horrible muslim terrorists that lurk at every corner they'll accept the death of 3000 of their own acceptable as long as they can keep existing in a first world society.

you're already sacrificing your rights and freedoms to your gov't slowly one by one to do this.

your gov't has you spoon fed on fear and is controlling you with it more and more daily.

Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 11, 2010, 01:21:16 PM
there are still so much questions to ask about what truly happend.

-the fbi helped bombing the world trade center before.

-what about building 7

-a rockafeller had told of what was going to happen months before.



Have you noticed they rarely mention the small building 7 that also fell in news articles like this, it's always the towers and Pentagon...
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: CalvinH on February 11, 2010, 01:29:56 PM
We already forgot.




Not me,I still get happy butterflies in my tummy when I hear the death toll from insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq :)
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 11, 2010, 01:31:45 PM



Not me,I still get happy butterflies in my tummy when I hear the death toll from insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq :)

x2
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on February 11, 2010, 05:06:41 PM
When did Bin Laden die? Was it over 5 years ago? Or does he live in the White House with Obama?
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: 240 is Back on February 11, 2010, 05:15:42 PM
hey, even the laws of physics deserve a day off every now and then, right?
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: body88 on February 11, 2010, 05:32:03 PM
Yeah it is absolutely amazing how they both fell directly vertical in the same fashion exactly the same way all intentionally demolished buildings fall.

Worst day in the history of this country. Two buildings designed to take the impact of three 747's at the same time collapse in a demo fashion within minutes of each other.

Sad...

8)

Hi 240
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: stormshadow on February 11, 2010, 06:02:52 PM
I was at work when the towers came down and everyone was watching the news.

I'm proud to say I didn't watch a single second of it on TV, nor did I give two shits about it while it happened.

Come to find out it was all staged, and Americans were manipulated by their fear and anger...



Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 12, 2010, 09:59:54 AM
I was at work when the towers came down and everyone was watching the news.

I'm proud to say I didn't watch a single second of it on TV, nor did I give two shits about it while it happened.

Come to find out it was all staged, and Americans were manipulated by their fear and anger...






good to know, "stormshadow", but I'm sure they didn't have a TV mounted above the deep-frier anyway.....
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Swedish Viking on February 12, 2010, 02:03:29 PM
My mom was in the first building when it got hit.  She was on the ground floor; somebody yelled "GUN!" and then everyone just ran out.  Kinda creepy...earlier that morning she sent a post card via the world trade center mailbox to my Awedish aunt, whom received it two years later in a plastic bag with a letter from the government more or less saying that they thought whoever sent this would have wanted her to have it.  Mom's fine, but was admittedly pretty shaken up.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 12, 2010, 02:12:21 PM
Sam Harris was just commenting on the pros and cons of the internet and mentions you moron conspiracy theorists

http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/12/author-the-web-is-among-worlds-most-destructive-technologies/?hpt=C2


He continued: "It's also empowered pranks and pseudoscience and bad information because every person on the Internet can sort of find the people like them and everyone can find an audience so there are certain forms of ignorance that would more or less be unthinkable without the Internet. Global jihad has been massively empowered by the Internet. Even things like the 911 truth conspiracy. That, to my mind, is an Internet phenomenon. No one would publish those books. This is something that is born of Web sites and Internet commentary."/b]


Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: DroppingPlates on February 12, 2010, 02:13:27 PM

Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Option D on February 12, 2010, 02:45:43 PM
Shit. I didnt think this shit would effect me. I damn near lost my breath. Man thats wild
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Gino30 on February 12, 2010, 03:14:56 PM
Sam Harris was just commenting on the pros and cons of the internet and mentions you moron conspiracy theorists

http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/12/author-the-web-is-among-worlds-most-destructive-technologies/?hpt=C2


He continued: "It's also empowered pranks and pseudoscience and bad information because every person on the Internet can sort of find the people like them and everyone can find an audience so there are certain forms of ignorance that would more or less be unthinkable without the Internet. Global jihad has been massively empowered by the Internet. Even things like the 911 truth conspiracy. That, to my mind, is an Internet phenomenon. No one would publish those books. This is something that is born of Web sites and Internet commentary."/b]
there's nothing wrong with asking questions dude.....

these moron conspiracy theorists included a lot of bright people, including engineers, professionals, firefighters and family members

I try to keep an open mind about these things and I have to say, some things just dont add up....at all

the pentagon and philly planes......wheres the debris?

Tower 7 being "pulled"


blabh blah blah....

sad day for America....

now the dickheads are over in Afghanistan fighting an impossible war....
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: 3Dkiller on February 12, 2010, 05:41:48 PM
inside job they do everything for oil and power.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 12, 2010, 07:34:01 PM
if the buildings were imploded how come there were no sounds of explosives in the seconds before it happened?

I watch a show about bringing down buildings and there are always very very loud noises starting about 5 seconds before the buildings start moving.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on February 12, 2010, 07:48:34 PM
who is Osama bin ladin?
Was he a bodybuilder back in the day?
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: TruthHurts on February 12, 2010, 07:52:02 PM
who is Osama bin ladin?
Was he a bodybuilder back in the day?

fail
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Hulkster on February 13, 2010, 06:35:39 AM
And absolutely no sign of Hulk Hogan - I knew those pics were a hoax.

no, they are real.

Hulk has been digitally edited out of the shots. its a conspiracy.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: DeketheCreep on February 13, 2010, 08:27:16 AM
Heres a never before seen photo i took
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/dekethecreep/RandySavage.jpg)
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Hulkster on February 13, 2010, 08:35:20 AM
the megapowers vs the twin towers!
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: Tre on February 13, 2010, 08:55:11 AM
even IF the truth come out americans as a population will never care to really do enough about it anyway.

as long as they feel protected from the horrible muslim terrorists that lurk at every corner they'll accept the death of 3000 of their own acceptable as long as they can keep existing in a first world society.

you're already sacrificing your rights and freedoms to your gov't slowly one by one to do this.

your gov't has you spoon fed on fear and is controlling you with it more and more daily.



x2
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: freespirit on February 13, 2010, 09:20:12 AM
Aluminum planes fly into a building made of reinforced concrete and solid steel, yeah right. What about the remains of these so called planes, are they ever really found? Hologram technology perhaps?
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Hulkster on February 13, 2010, 09:35:53 AM
what people need to understand is this:

when a plane is going down, what normally happens?

the pilots are doing everything they can to avoid it. they are trying to minimize impact, skidding rather than nose diving etc etc.

what happened with the 9/11 planes?

the terrorists deliberately flew them into targets at hundreds of miles an hour. and in the case of the one that crashed into the ground, they nosedived it into the ground.

at about 600mph, assuming normal cruising speed.

that is a crucial difference that the conspiracy theorists don't seem to get.

this isn't the same as a  pilot having to do an emergency landing and crashing/skidding into a runway.

this is flying a plane directly into a building with intent to do max. damage.

not only that, you had 110 story buildings collapsing ontop of them, literallly turning everything into pebbles.

big difference here. its part of the reason the peices of wreckage are not big and typical.



Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Tito24 on February 13, 2010, 09:53:28 AM
what people need to understand is this:

when a plane is going down, what normally happens?

the pilots are doing everything they can to avoid it. they are trying to minimize impact, skidding rather than nose diving etc etc.

what happened with the 9/11 planes?

the terrorists deliberately flew them into targets at hundreds of miles an hour. and in the case of the one that crashed into the ground, they nosedived it into the ground.

good points

at about 600mph, assuming normal cruising speed.

that is a crucial difference that the conspiracy theorists don't seem to get.

this isn't the same as a  pilot having to do an emergency landing and crashing/skidding into a runway.

this is flying a plane directly into a building with intent to do max. damage.

not only that, you had 110 story buildings collapsing ontop of them, literallly turning everything into pebbles.

big difference here. its part of the reason the peices of wreckage are not big and typical.




Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 13, 2010, 10:10:47 AM
what people need to understand is this:

when a plane is going down, what normally happens?

the pilots are doing everything they can to avoid it. they are trying to minimize impact, skidding rather than nose diving etc etc.

what happened with the 9/11 planes?

the terrorists deliberately flew them into targets at hundreds of miles an hour. and in the case of the one that crashed into the ground, they nosedived it into the ground.

at about 600mph, assuming normal cruising speed.

that is a crucial difference that the conspiracy theorists don't seem to get.

this isn't the same as a  pilot having to do an emergency landing and crashing/skidding into a runway.

this is flying a plane directly into a building with intent to do max. damage.

not only that, you had 110 story buildings collapsing ontop of them, literallly turning everything into pebbles.

big difference here. its part of the reason the peices of wreckage are not big and typical.




those planes hit those buildings people at least accept that fact.

also accept the fact that bin laden didn't really care if the towers came down either.

once they hit then their mission was a success - planes were taken, many people died and a symbol of the USA was defiled, their cause was in the news -

whether the towers came down doesn't fucking matter and I bet they probably hadn't even talked about it!

saying the US government then brought the towers down is even dumber - the US government are fucking halfwits they couldn't pull that off - you ever hear of vietnam/watergate/bay of pigs? not the brightest people to say the least.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Hulkster on February 13, 2010, 10:14:12 AM
I tend to agree.

look at the Christmas day underwear terrorist.

the guys' fucking FATHER called up the US government and said "hey, my son is a terrorist he is probably going to try and kill people"

and what were they able to do?

NOTHING.

and people expect them to be able to pull off a scheme like 9/11?

not bloody likely if you ask me..
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 13, 2010, 10:17:52 AM
or maddoff? people were telling the sec what he was doing in detail 5 years before HE GAVE HIMSELF UP!

Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2010, 10:17:58 AM
I just bothered to read just the first page and could already see idiot CT responses..oh brother!
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: The Showstoppa on February 13, 2010, 10:21:10 AM
I just bothered to read just the first page and could already see idiot CT responses..oh brother!

Yep, the same cerebral giants who talked for 8 yrs about what a dumbass Bush and his entire admin were, think he/they pulled that off......fuckin' clowns.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Bobby on February 13, 2010, 01:24:47 PM
BULLSHIT!!

buildings fall in on themselves all the time, perfectly normal
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Hulkster on February 13, 2010, 01:27:14 PM
in all honesty, the pancake collapse that happened is not unusual at all given the design of the buildings + thousands of gallons of burning jet fuel.

people act like it must be an inside job and bombs must have been used just because it hasn't happened before.

well duh.

how many times in history have jet airliners been deliberately flown into 110 storey buildings?

 ::)

people are just so dumb. :-\
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 13, 2010, 01:41:44 PM
there's nothing wrong with asking questions dude.....

these moron conspiracy theorists included a lot of bright people, including engineers, professionals, firefighters and family members

I try to keep an open mind about these things and I have to say, some things just dont add up....at all

the pentagon and philly planes......wheres the debris?

Tower 7 being "pulled"


blabh blah blah....

sad day for America....

now the dickheads are over in Afghanistan fighting an impossible war....


Asking questions and jumping to conclusions and making assumptions are two different things. And just because A + B doesn't add up doesn't mean it's C by default.

Noam Chomsky has been one of the most outspoken critics of the Bush admin and when asked the question if it was an inside job he said " NO " he also added that Washington is horrible at keeping secrets and if it were an inside job it would have been out there

Bush/Cheney may have been complete tools but please with the inside job nonsense.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Bobby on February 13, 2010, 01:43:49 PM
         |----|
      |----|   
      |----|   top part falls in this direction--->>> then down
    |----|
  |---|  <----place of impact
  |---|
  |----|
  |----|
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  |----|

If the structural columns were damaged on impact, they would be more damaged on one side than the other. The weakening would not be equal on all sides. So if the building would collapse naturally, the top would tip over to the side then collapse down, most of the remaining structure would still stand but if it collapsed too a large part of the base would still be left, think of a root of a tree after it's been chopped down. Most likely the buildings would not have collapsed at all.

If the entire building would collapse, it would do so as a domino brick

          |----|
         |----|
        |----|
       |----|  -->>
      |----|
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Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Hulkster on February 13, 2010, 01:58:00 PM
^

but that is not what happened.

the upper floors literally collapsed down on top of the lower floors.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center#Mechanics_of_collapse_.28Twin_Towers.29

Quote
Both buildings collapsed symmetrically and more or less straight down, though there was some tilting of the tops of the towers and a significant amount of fallout to the sides. In both cases, the portion of the building that had been damaged by the airplanes failed, which allowed the section above the airplane impacts to fall onto the undamaged structure below. As the collapse progressed, dust and debris could be seen shooting out of the windows several floors below the advancing destruction. The first fragments of the outer walls of the collapsed North Tower struck the ground 9 seconds after the collapse started, and parts of the South Tower after 11 seconds. The lower portions of both buildings' cores (60 stories of WTC 1 and 40 stories of WTC 2) remained standing for up to 25 seconds after the start of the initial collapse before they too collapsed.[12]

While they were designed to support enormous static loads, they provided little resistance to the moving mass of the sections above the floors where the collapses initiated. Structural systems respond very differently to static and dynamic loads, and since the motion of the falling portion began as a free fall through the height of at least one story (roughly three meters), the structure beneath them was unable to stop the collapses once they began. Indeed, a fall of only half a meter would have been enough to release the necessary energy to begin an unstoppable collapse.[
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on February 13, 2010, 01:58:14 PM
even IF the truth come out americans as a population will never care to really do enough about it anyway.

as long as they feel protected from the horrible muslim terrorists that lurk at every corner they'll accept the death of 3000 of their own acceptable as long as they can keep existing in a first world society.

you're already sacrificing your rights and freedoms to your gov't slowly one by one to do this.

your gov't has you spoon fed on fear and is controlling you with it more and more daily.



x3

A world with so much information out there, bullshit propaganda still reins supreme
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 13, 2010, 02:11:54 PM
That's because the bullshit propaganda is reported by liberal networks and rags much like the bullshit of "global warming". Look who reports it and look who refutes it. More lib networks more it gets out to people.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 13, 2010, 02:15:48 PM
When did Bin Laden die? Was it over 5 years ago? Or does he live in the White House with Obama?
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WATCH
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 13, 2010, 02:16:48 PM
Have you noticed they rarely mention the small building 7 that also fell in news articles like this, it's always the towers and Pentagon...

building 7 fell from....ummm....the big bad wolf huffed n puffed it down  :-\
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 13, 2010, 02:43:35 PM
ND and hulkster are agreeing on something here btw people...
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: Bobby on February 13, 2010, 02:45:34 PM
ND and hulkster are agreeing on something here btw people...

i bet dorian doesn't :D

(http://www.kennyherriot.co.uk/images/photosales5.jpg)
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Cap on February 13, 2010, 03:00:38 PM
Lighter taken off the enemy by a friend.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 13, 2010, 03:29:00 PM
this lighter illustrates my point from before...

the AQ mission was to hit the towers with planes... whether they came down wasn't in their control so they didn't worry about it - the damage would be great either way.

the same goes for bush and his mates.... the planes hitting the towers provided enough of a mandate to do what they did after that... them coming down was terrible but they still had a mandate simply from the act of the planes hitting the towers....

and building 7?--- who cares about that in the scheme of things? nobody... it came down straight similar to an implosion because where it failed was down low the same as where they take out columns when they implode buildings.

here is a good pic of the 2nd tower hit as it failed... hardly a straight collapse like an implosion.

Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Bobby on February 13, 2010, 04:39:49 PM
"Why pay for expensive controlled demolitions when you can just burn a little jet fuel on a couple of floors?"

"That only works when the building is owned by Larry Silverstein."

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Gino30 on February 13, 2010, 04:49:58 PM
Asking questions and jumping to conclusions and making assumptions are two different things. And just because A + B doesn't add up doesn't mean it's C by default.

Noam Chomsky has been one of the most outspoken critics of the Bush admin and when asked the question if it was an inside job he said " NO " he also added that Washington is horrible at keeping secrets and if it were an inside job it would have been out there

Bush/Cheney may have been complete tools but please with the inside job nonsense.

What's so nosense about two planes going down and leaving less debris than my toilet bowl after a night out on the piss?

Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 13, 2010, 04:56:51 PM
What's so nosense about two planes going down and leaving less debris than my toilet bowl after a night out on the piss?



You were expecting more debris? why? the planes hit the building a 600mph... did they plant this after the fact?

Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 13, 2010, 05:54:47 PM
The people to be angry with are the truthers who have made a cottage industry out of 9/11 preying on morons...
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Hulkster on February 13, 2010, 05:55:08 PM
You were expecting more debris? why? the planes hit the building a 600mph... did they plant this after the fact?



agreed. but Ronnie is still better.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 13, 2010, 06:00:29 PM
agreed. but Ronnie is still better.

Better at losing  ;)
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 13, 2010, 06:49:53 PM
Sam Harris was just commenting on the pros and cons of the internet and mentions you moron conspiracy theorists

http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/12/author-the-web-is-among-worlds-most-destructive-technologies/?hpt=C2


He continued: "It's also empowered pranks and pseudoscience and bad information because every person on the Internet can sort of find the people like them and everyone can find an audience so there are certain forms of ignorance that would more or less be unthinkable without the Internet. Global jihad has been massively empowered by the Internet. Even things like the 911 truth conspiracy. That, to my mind, is an Internet phenomenon. No one would publish those books. This is something that is born of Web sites and Internet commentary."/b]






you re the moron taking this guys word on it, did he explain why building 7 collapsed?
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 13, 2010, 06:52:15 PM
internet  80% fake

tv 100% fake
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on February 13, 2010, 06:52:49 PM


you re the moron taking this guys word on it, did he explain why building 7 collapsed?

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

enjoy.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 13, 2010, 07:02:38 PM
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

enjoy.

0fcourse there is a lot of bullshit on the net, try to see the whole picture, how can you trust the government? go to the library and find the meaning of the word ''government''

here a short clip of aaron russo (good friend of rockefeller)


Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: mantronik on February 13, 2010, 07:43:21 PM



Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 13, 2010, 09:00:09 PM
0fcourse there is a lot of bullshit on the net, try to see the whole picture, how can you trust the government? go to the library and find the meaning of the word ''government''

here a short clip of aaron russo (good friend of rockefeller)



we aren't saying we trust the govt but we KNOW they aren't capable of pulling this off because they aren't terribly bright or co-ordinated.
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: nychotbod on February 14, 2010, 12:35:26 AM
Thought your gonna show us some dramatic pics, idiot.
These pics are old and boring.  Same pics from 9 years ago.
Get over it already. Its a decade ago. I'm so sick of u whiners.
Also sick of seeing the names being read every 9/11.
Show me some real dramatic pics, of people jumping out the buildings.
Old news......




We have seen the Twin Towers collapse hundreds of times on TV. The steel and glass skyscrapers exploding like a bag of flour, the dust and smoke pluming out across Manhattan. But never like this, from above.
Nine years after the defining moment of the 21st century, a stunning set of photographs taken by New York Police helicopters forces us to look afresh at a catastrophe we assumed we knew so well.
You know but cannot see the 2,752 men, women and children who died at the World Trade Centre on September 11, 2001. None is visible here.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083AACA8000005DC-954_964x711.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083AACC0000005DC-404_964x696.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083AAE0F000005DC-214_964x710.jpg)

All we see is the spectacular moment of collapse, what film directors call the wide shot, showing the towers in their urban setting, before, during and after their fall.

Even for those who were there, like me, running from the cloud and choking in the dust, it is hard to believe. But what is all too evident to everyone is that this event changed the world, with consequences that will haunt us for decades.

With the Twin Towers collapsed the world we thought we knew.
These dramatic images were taken by police photographers in helicopters and it is the first time they have been seen, having been released under a Freedom of Information request made by America's ABC News.
Burning buildings can be seen crumpling in on themselves as plumes of smoke rise up over the New York skyline that terrible September morning.
The images show how the police helicopter first began taking images from afar before moving in to reveal the devastation taking place underneath.
They also reveal the horror faced by those trapped in the burning buildings and then the walls of smoke and debris that enveloped the surrounding area as the towers came crashing down.
Released more than eight years after the deaths of 2,752 people on that day, they are powerful reminders of the attack that led to wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The legacy of the New York attack continues today with as British forces joining with Afghan soldiers and Nato to launch the biggest attack on the Taliban - accused of harbouring Al Qaeda who organised the 9/11 attack - since the initial 2001 offensive.
Meanwhile, in New York, work is continuing to build on the rubble of what became known as Ground Zero.
Structural steel for the 1,776ft tower, which will be known as 1 World Trade Centre, has already reached 200ft above street level.
Workers are now installing 16 steel nodes on the 20th-floor of the tower which will serve as joints between the steel framing for the building's podium and the steel for the rest of the tower. The 104-storey skyscraper is due to be completed in 2013 and will be one of the tallest buildings in the U.S.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083BEFD2000005DC-203_964x1175.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083AABF8000005DC-865_964x694.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083A9CB1000005DC-908_470x627.jpg)

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/02/10/article-1249885-083A9ECF000005DC-860_964x692.jpg)


Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Time
Post by: Gino30 on February 14, 2010, 01:18:05 AM
You were expecting more debris? why? the planes hit the building a 600mph... did they plant this after the fact?



You do know about the Pentagon and Philly flights?.....please tell me you do?!?
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 14, 2010, 01:37:24 AM
You do know about the Pentagon and Philly flights?.....please tell me you do?!?
tell us your theory on the those 2 flights...
Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: Gino30 on February 14, 2010, 02:01:01 AM
tell us your theory on the those 2 flights...

shut it up muppet

I ain't here to argue the 9/11 story....

post some titty pics of hit the hills you MSM fanboy

Title: Re: Dramatic Images of World Trade Centre Collapse on 9/11 Released for First Ti
Post by: jwb on February 14, 2010, 02:32:14 AM
I ain't here to argue the 9/11 story....
then why ask ND about the other 2 flights? then back out of explaining what you believe happened?

pissweak