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Title: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Mons Venus on February 14, 2010, 10:42:21 AM
February 12th
More Americans blame the Bush administration for the nation's economic troubles than the Obama administration, according to a new poll.




(CNN) - More than a year after President George W. Bush left office, more Americans continue to blame his administration over any other entity for the nation's economic woes, according to a new poll.

In a New York Times/CBS News survey out Friday, 31 percent of Americans said the Bush administration is at fault for the current state of the economy while only 7 percent pointed their finger at President Obama and his team.

An additional 23 percent said the fault lies with Wall Street institutions while 13 percent assign the blame to Congress. Nearly 10 percent said the blame lies with all of them.

In a CNN/Opinion Research poll released last November, the public appeared split on who should be blamed if economic conditions don't approve: 47 percent said Bush and congressional Republicans while 45 percent said Obama and congressional Democrats.

"The public still tends to blame the Republicans for current economic conditions,"  said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "But looking forward is another matter. Americans think the GOP is responsible for getting us into this mess, but they think both parties are responsible for getting us out of it."

The poll, conducted February 5-10, interviewed 1,084 Americans and carries a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.




W fuked this country over and Americans know it!   
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 14, 2010, 11:01:34 AM
the boneheads on this site will say the poll is bogus because it wasn't done by fox news ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: ToxicAvenger on February 14, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
i know quite a few losers that blame their problems on others

:sparkle: the more you know:sparkle:
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Skip8282 on February 14, 2010, 01:06:27 PM
Why wouldn't he be blamed?

The issue right now is not who's at fault, but what's being done to rectify the situation.  Barry endlessly crying that it's Bush's fault helps no one.  He's had about a year now to start changing things and show some real improvements.  Where are they?  What are they?

Maybe if the libs stopped crying about who's to blame and started actually working to fix things, they wouldn't get washed out in November.  Barry was elected to bring about hope & change.  Being a fucking crybaby about Bush is neither hope nor change.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: BodyProSite on February 14, 2010, 05:52:56 PM
is it gb  fault  that bammer didnt let c-span in meetings, or illegaly fire mr. walpin, or promise zero earmarks and lobbyers, and still have them to this day,  did bush make bammer promise to keep u.e under 8% , hmmm where is it now? did bush make him promise the middle class thet they would never see a dime of tax increase, did bush make bammer say that gitmo would be closed in jan 2010?   would you like me to keep going?
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: MCWAY on February 14, 2010, 06:26:50 PM
Some liberals here foolishly think that blaming Bush is going to save the Democrats from a beating in November. They'll be the first ones in epileptic shock, when the whacking starts.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 06:20:47 AM
the boneheads on this site will say the poll is bogus because it wasn't done by fox news ;D

Blacken :  What specifically did Bush do to ruin the economy?   
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: dario73 on February 15, 2010, 06:54:38 AM
Blacken :  What specifically did Bush do to ruin the economy?   

Blacken is a sheep who doesn't have an original thought. He will answer with a video showing a liberal spewing Obama talking points.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 06:57:33 AM
Blacken is a sheep who doesn't have an original thought. He will answer with a video showing a liberal spewing Obama talking points.


Look, Bush definately made screw ups, but I want to hear from Blacken specifically how Bush is solely at fault here. 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 07:11:44 AM
Repeatedly, Bush talked about how the economy was in trouble.  Arriving in office following the longest continuous economic upturn in generations, President Bush seized on a stock market that had faltered some in the uncertainty following the 2000 Presidential election.The bad economy, he talked about.  Again and again.  The bad economy.You know what happened as a result?   First, people held off on hiring and purchases to see if the President's bleak prediction would come true.  When this happened,   Less hiring and corporate spending created a measurable slowdown in the economy, which led people to say, "Hey, maybe the President is right," and tighten up even more.  Each report grew worse and worse due to this, and a nation that was being told to expect the worst slowly came to believe it.So, to put it simply, President Bush's constant talk about the economy being bad led it to be so. two wars didn't help. Is that right 333386?

Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 07:15:05 AM
Repeatedly, Bush talked about how the economy was in trouble.  Arriving in office following the longest continuous economic upturn in generations, President Bush seized on a stock market that had faltered some in the uncertainty following the 2000 Presidential election.The bad economy, he talked about.  Again and again.  The bad economy.You know what happened as a result?   First, people held off on hiring and purchases to see if the President's bleak prediction would come true.  When this happened,   Less hiring and corporate spending created a measurable slowdown in the economy, which led people to say, "Hey, maybe the President is right," and tighten up even more.  Each report grew worse and worse due to this, and a nation that was being told to expect the worst slowly came to believe it.So, to put it simply, President Bush's constant talk about the economy being bad led it to be so. two wars didn't help. Is that right 333386?



Thank you.  Your post confirmed what I thought of your understanding of why the economy collapsed in 2008.  

You are absolutely clueless.  

Blacken:  I will give you a good first start.  go watch the movie "The Warning" on www.PBS.org

Start there and report back what you learn.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 07:25:14 AM
that got things going then you had the  Housing bubble, Inflation,
 Subprime lending, Oil prices
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 07:27:05 AM
that got things going then you had the  Housing bubble, Inflation,
 Subprime lending, Oil prices


AGAIN, PLEASE NAME ME THE SPECIFIC POLICY THAT BUSH ENACTED THAT LED TO THE ECONOMY CRASHING IN 2008.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 07:33:52 AM
tax cuts during a time of war and a floundering economy
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 07:37:23 AM
tax cuts during a time of war and a floundering economy


Hysterical.  How did the Tax Cuts result in a crash of Lehman Brothers, Fannie, Freddy, Bear Sterns, GM, Chrysler, and AIG?
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 07:43:30 AM
Hysterical. tax cuts are only one part, its a number of things combined not just one thing. why don't you cut and paste me the answer you think it is , we know your good at it. I'm waiting you phony. :D :D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Skip8282 on February 15, 2010, 07:43:55 AM
AGAIN, PLEASE NAME ME THE SPECIFIC POLICY THAT BUSH ENACTED THAT LED TO THE ECONOMY CRASHING IN 2008.


No, you're either attempting deception or just trying to show Blacken as an idiot (which isn't hard to do).  The problem was Bush's INACTION over a period of years.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 07:51:12 AM

No, you're either attempting deception or just trying to show Blacken as an idiot (which isn't hard to do).  The problem was Bush's INACTION over a period of years.

Yes, it was his inaction along with a corrupt congress both GOP/DEM who refused to reign in spending and do any oversight on Fannie Freddy.  There are many articles on this and GWB, while not blameless, is not completely at fault either.  Putting this all on him alone is for the intellectually lazy who dont want to read what actually occurred. 

Again, you need to watch The Warning to see where this mess was hatched.  it was not with GWB.  Yes, he let the problem grow to insane measure, but he did not create it.   

It was Clinton, Rubin, Geithner, Greenspan, Phil Grahm, and Larry Summers all who led to the repeal of Glass Steagal and created the derivatives market where Fannie and Freddy were allowed to buy up crap mortgages, etc.     
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Skip8282 on February 15, 2010, 07:56:41 AM
Yes, it was his inaction along with a corrupt congress both GOP/DEM who refused to reign in spending and do any oversight on Fannie Freddy.  There are many articles on this and GWB, while not blameless, is not completely at fault either.  Putting this all on him alone is for the intellectually lazy who dont want to read what actually occurred. 

Again, you need to watch The Warning to see where this mess was hatched.  it was not with GWB.  Yes, he let the problem grow to insane measure, but he did not create it.   

It was Clinton, Rubin, Geithner, Greenspan, Phil Grahm, and Larry Summers all who led to the repeal of Glass Steagal and created the derivatives market where Fannie and Freddy were allowed to buy up crap mortgages, etc.     


I agree except that nobody forced Fannie and Freddy to buy crap mortgages, it was greed.  But, as the leader of the country, inaction still means we get to blame Bush just as we can blame Barry for his inaction.  Everybody knows that Obama's not completely at fault.  Nonetheless, he will have to take a portion of the responsibility.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Grape Ape on February 15, 2010, 08:02:47 AM
So, to put it simply, President Bush's constant talk about the economy being bad led it to be so.


Wow......just....wow.... .

Just think, by this logic, all Obama has to do it say the economy's good and BINGO!
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 08:19:23 AM
Wow......just....wow.....

Just think, by this logic, all Obama has to do it say the economy's good and BINGO!

That is why I asked him that question.  It reveals the understanding and education of your typical obama voter. 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Grape Ape on February 15, 2010, 08:38:55 AM
That is why I asked him that question.  It reveals the understanding and education of your typical obama voter. 

I think it should also tell everyone to ignore anything he posts.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 08:53:23 AM
i think every thing i listed led to the down turn in the economy.

Housing bubble, Inflation, Subprime lending, Oil prices
tax cuts during a time of war and a floundering economy and bush talking down the economy     tell me which one is wrong?
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 08:54:58 AM
Quote
Repeatedly, Bush talked about how the economy was in trouble.  Arriving in office following the longest continuous economic upturn in generations, President Bush seized on a stock market that had faltered some in the uncertainty following the 2000 Presidential election.The bad economy, he talked about.  Again and again.  The bad economy.You know what happened as a result?   First, people held off on hiring and purchases to see if the President's bleak prediction would come true.  When this happened,   Less hiring and corporate spending created a measurable slowdown in the economy, which led people to say, "Hey, maybe the President is right," and tighten up even more.  Each report grew worse and worse due to this, and a nation that was being told to expect the worst slowly came to believe it.So, to put it simply, President Bush's constant talk about the economy being bad led it to be so. two wars didn't help. Is that right 333386?

Blacken the Plagiarizer  !!!   :o   :o   :o   :o


Read the words below in Red, do they look familiar to Blackens above post ?


http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i2news1.htm

" This economic downturn, quite simply, is the fault of President Bush.

It wasn't his tax cut, as the Democrats claim.  The tax cut has not had enough time to have any positive or negative effects it will have.

What caused this economic downturn goes back to when George W. Bush was merely President-elect, waiting to take office, and continued on through his first six months in office.

Repeatedly
, President-elect, and then President, Bush talked about how the economy was in trouble.  Arriving in office following the longest continuous economic upturn in generations, President Bush seized on a stock market that had faltered some in the uncertainty following the 2000 Presidential election.

The "bad" economy, he talked about.  Again and again.  The "bad" economy.

You know what happened as a result?  I can tell you from my personal experience, the CFO of the corporation I was working for called a meeting and said, "The President keeps talking about the economy being 'bad.'  Now, things don't seem bad, but let's just hold off on any new hires until we see how this pans out.  And, let's hold off on all non-vital purchases, just for the time being."

And you can see right there how simply the words of President George W. Bush started slamming the breaks of the economy.

This, of course, all snowballed.  First, people held off on hiring and purchases to see if the President's bleak prediction would come true.  When this happened, it became a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Less hiring and corporate spending created a measurable slowdown in the economy, which led people to say, "Hey, maybe the President is right," and tighten up even more.  Each report grew worse and worse due to this, and a nation that was being told to expect the worst slowly came to believe it.

So, to put it simply, President Bush's constant talk about the economy being "bad" led it to be so.

The argument that Clinton is somehow to blame is the most comical thing we at The Moderate Independent have heard to date.  The people who make this argument - partisan Republicans - invariably also claim that Clinton was not responsible for the prosperity during his two terms in office.  That, they say, was just lucky timing.

Think about this:  they say Clinton was not responsible for the economy while he was in office, but is responsible for the economy when he is not in office.  Anyone with a basic grasp of logic knows these two things can not go together.  Either the fate of the economy is luck or someone's responsibility.  To make this argument, that Clinton, who presided over prosperity, should not get credit for that, but should get blame for a recession under President Bush is clearly unsupportable, illogical, and just childish partisan nonsense.

http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i2news1.htm

Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 09:06:35 AM
OWNING OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KKKAAABBBBOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 09:12:45 AM
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OWNING OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To be fair,  Blacken did add the last sentence:  "Is that right 333386?"      ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 09:16:14 AM
To be fair,  Blacken did add the last sentence:  "Is that right 333386?"      ;D


He will never live this down. 

Great find James! ! ! !

How did you find that? 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 09:34:15 AM
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He will never live this down.

Great find James! ! ! !

How did you find that? 

This is not his first time of trying to pass off someone's work, as his own.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 09:37:19 AM
This is not his first time of trying to pass off someone's work, as his own.

Great find!   Lets see if he acknowledges his academic theft ala Joe Biden? 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 10:04:09 AM
Great find!   Lets see if he acknowledges his academic theft ala Joe Biden? 

BUMP FOR RESPONSE FROM BLACKEN!
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 10:34:37 AM
Quote
BUMP FOR RESPONSE FROM BLACKEN!

It seems Blacken has left the building.....
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 10:38:39 AM
It seems Blacken has left the building.....

No he hasnt!

He is posting on other threads! 

Come on Blacken - man up and admit you plagerized your response!
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 10:40:05 AM
Quote
No he hasnt!

He is posting on other threads!

Come on Blacken - man up and admit you plagerized your response!


It seems Blackens Integrity has left the building.....
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 10:50:12 AM

It seems Blackens Integrity has left the building.....

Bro - when you get 99% of your material from DU, you have no integrity. 

Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 10:52:43 AM
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Bro - when you get 99% of your material from DU, you have no integrity. 

Keep this thread going until he responds.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 10:55:24 AM
Keep this thread going until he responds.

Oh yeah! 

Mons was first.  Blacken will be next. 

I like KC.  Even though I dont agree with him, KC never plagerizes.

Blacken is finished after your owning.   
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 10:58:49 AM
YOU  TWO ARE LIKE A COUPLE OF NERDS  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 11:01:10 AM
Quote
Oh yeah!

Mons was first.  Blacken will be next.

I like KC.  Even though I dont agree with him, KC never plagerizes.

Blacken is finished after your owning.  


From now on, just post a link back to this this thread in all of his his new post.   ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 11:02:36 AM
Blacken: 

Do you admit to plagerism like Joe Biden or not?   

YES OR NO? 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 11:04:36 AM
Quote
Blacken:

Do you admit to plagerism like Joe Biden or not?  

YES OR NO ?

Give him a minute to find an answer to paste !   ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 11:06:37 AM
Give him a minute to find an answer!    ;D

Its only a matter of time for most libs to be found out to be frauds like Blacken has.

And yet - he has the balls to point the finger at my girl Sarah!   

Hysterical! ! ! !   
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Skip8282 on February 15, 2010, 11:09:01 AM
Hahahaha...that's true.  The same douchebage mocking Palin for writing on her palm is out stealing other people's works.  lol
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 11:10:22 AM
 

Do you admit to plagerism like Joe Biden or not?  

YES OR NO ?

Give him a minute to find an answer to paste !    



Oh yeah!

Mons was first.  Blacken will be next.


Blacken is finished after your owning.  


From now on, just post a link back to this this thread in all of his his new post.  
 
REVENGE OF THE NERDS :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 11:11:02 AM
Hahahaha...that's true.  The same douchebage mocking Palin for writing on her palm is out stealing other people's works.  lol

BLACKEN = FRIED!  

You cant point the finger at Sarah while at the same time plagerizing like this.

James = VAN HELSING    
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Skip8282 on February 15, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
REVENGE OF THE NERDS :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


It's ok buddy, I'm sure it's tough not being able to think for yourself.  Just remember to put your football helmet on before you go outside and everything will be alright.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
REALLY GO BACK AND READ ALL YOUR POST, WHAT A BUNCH OF GEEKS :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: tonymctones on February 15, 2010, 11:17:26 AM

It's ok buddy, I'm sure it's tough not being able to think for yourself.  Just remember to put your football helmet on before you go outside and everything will be alright.
LMFAO hahahaha  ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 11:17:45 AM
YES OR NO - DID YOU CUT AND PASTE YOUR ANSWER?  
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Kazan on February 15, 2010, 11:18:48 AM
(http://www.guzer.com/pictures/funny_owned_boy.jpg)
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 11:21:20 AM
Once again..........  ;D

Quote
Repeatedly, Bush talked about how the economy was in trouble.  Arriving in office following the longest continuous economic upturn in generations, President Bush seized on a stock market that had faltered some in the uncertainty following the 2000 Presidential election.The bad economy, he talked about.  Again and again.  The bad economy.You know what happened as a result?   First, people held off on hiring and purchases to see if the President's bleak prediction would come true.  When this happened,   Less hiring and corporate spending created a measurable slowdown in the economy, which led people to say, "Hey, maybe the President is right," and tighten up even more.  Each report grew worse and worse due to this, and a nation that was being told to expect the worst slowly came to believe it.So, to put it simply, President Bush's constant talk about the economy being bad led it to be so. two wars didn't help. Is that right 333386?

Blacken the Plagiarizer  !!!  :o   :o   :o   :o


Read the words below in Red, do they look familiar to Blackens above post  ?


http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i2news1.htm

" This economic downturn, quite simply, is the fault of President Bush.

It wasn't his tax cut, as the Democrats claim.  The tax cut has not had enough time to have any positive or negative effects it will have.

What caused this economic downturn goes back to when George W. Bush was merely President-elect, waiting to take office, and continued on through his first six months in office.

Repeatedly, President-elect, and then President, Bush talked about how the economy was in trouble.  Arriving in office following the longest continuous economic upturn in generations, President Bush seized on a stock market that had faltered some in the uncertainty following the 2000 Presidential election.

The "bad" economy, he talked about.  Again and again.  The "bad" economy.

You know what happened as a result?  I can tell you from my personal experience, the CFO of the corporation I was working for called a meeting and said, "The President keeps talking about the economy being 'bad.'  Now, things don't seem bad, but let's just hold off on any new hires until we see how this pans out.  And, let's hold off on all non-vital purchases, just for the time being."

And you can see right there how simply the words of President George W. Bush started slamming the breaks of the economy.

This, of course, all snowballed.  First, people held off on hiring and purchases to see if the President's bleak prediction would come true.  When this happened, it became a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Less hiring and corporate spending created a measurable slowdown in the economy, which led people to say, "Hey, maybe the President is right," and tighten up even more.  Each report grew worse and worse due to this, and a nation that was being told to expect the worst slowly came to believe it.

So, to put it simply, President Bush's constant talk about the economy being "bad" led it to be so.


The argument that Clinton is somehow to blame is the most comical thing we at The Moderate Independent have heard to date.  The people who make this argument - partisan Republicans - invariably also claim that Clinton was not responsible for the prosperity during his two terms in office.  That, they say, was just lucky timing.

Think about this:  they say Clinton was not responsible for the economy while he was in office, but is responsible for the economy when he is not in office.  Anyone with a basic grasp of logic knows these two things can not go together.  Either the fate of the economy is luck or someone's responsibility.  To make this argument, that Clinton, who presided over prosperity, should not get credit for that, but should get blame for a recession under President Bush is clearly unsupportable, illogical, and just childish partisan nonsense.

http://www.moderateindependent.com/v1i2news1.htm







What is your reply to this Blacken ?
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 11:24:17 AM
James- by far this is your best EVER! ! !
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 11:52:06 AM
James- by far this is your best EVER! ! !

BLACKEN: 

YES OR NO - DID YOU STEAL THAT POST? 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 11:59:10 AM
FORGIVE ME FATHER FOR I HAVE SINNED :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 11:59:40 AM
FORGIVE ME FATHER FOR I HAVE SINNED :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

How many other posts have you plagerized? 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 12:05:35 PM
CAN I JUST SAY 10 HAIL MARYS AND BE FORGIVEN ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Mons Venus on February 15, 2010, 12:07:56 PM
FORGIVE ME FATHER FOR I HAVE SINNED :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

LOL! ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 12:09:08 PM
CAN I JUST SAY 10 HAIL MARYS AND BE FORGIVEN ;D

No.  You have to commit to not bashing Palin for doing the same thing you have done.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Mons Venus on February 15, 2010, 12:12:07 PM
No.  You have to commit to not bashing Palin for doing the same thing you have done.

Don't do it blacken700!  :D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 12:12:47 PM
last time i looked i wasn't running for pres.,that being said i would bet I'm more honest then all the pres. in my lifetime
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 12:18:22 PM
last time i looked i wasn't running for pres.,that being said i would bet I'm more honest then all the pres. in my lifetime

Neither is Palin. 

"i have not had sex with that woman"

"Read my lips, no new taxes"

"UE may reach 8% unless we pass the Stim Bill" 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: blacken700 on February 15, 2010, 12:23:24 PM
i think you will be surprised on palin, she will be in the debates :o
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 12:26:55 PM
i think you will be surprised on palin, she will be in the debates :o

Palin will easily win the presidency unless Barry Soetoro sheds himself of reid/pelosi.     
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
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How many other posts have you plagerized?  

333,  Below are just a few that Blacken has plagiarized in the last couple of weeks :


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Some kids play Dungeons and Dragons, other go online and play World of Warcraft. Conservatives, apparently, play courtroom, and indict the President of the United States samson you are beginning to be a fucking joke on this site,then you wonder why people don't take you serious,i wouldn't be surprised in your next post you say you can see Russia from your porch
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=319629.msg4543054#msg4543054

"National Grand Jury" Indicts Obama for Treason
by Bamos
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Thu Apr 30, 2009 at 09:59:32 AM PST

"Some kids play Dungeons and Dragons, other go online and play World of Warcraft. Conservatives, apparently, play courtroom, and indict the President of the United States":

taken from : http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/4/30/726338/-National-Grand-Jury-Indicts-Obama-for-Treason


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The genius speaks!
Someone duct tape this idiots lips shut. Cut that mike! Erase the answers written on her hand! Turn off the friggin cameras already!She quits everything she starts. Why won't she quit making stupid statements?Iran has made it perfectly clear. ANY attack on Iran and they will try to wipe Israel off the map.
This pee-brain numb-skull wants World War 111 to break out for sure. Will Somebody Please take the microphone away from this woman. She's an embarrassment to the entire human race.  She is showing that not only does she know the difference between Iran and Iraq now but also that we would have a 3rd war on our hands if we had a, :gulp:, Palin presidency.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=319291.msg4536140#msg4536140
   
"Someone duct tape this idiots lips shut. Cut that mike! Erase the answers written on her hand! Turn off the friggin cameras already!

She quits everything she starts. Why won't she quit making stupid statements?

Russia has made it abundantly clear. They will stand behind Iran...and they have enough nukes for both of them.

Iran has made it perfectly clear. ANY attack on Iran and they will wipe Israel off the map.

This pee-brain numb-skull wants World War 111 to break out for sure.

Speaking of which...exactly how many more wars do we have to be fighting to make this a World War??

taken from : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=432077&mesg_id=432124



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Crib Notes? This potential presidential candidate and "movement" leader was using crib notes to answer basic questions? This would mean:
A) That she knew the questions beforehand and the whole thing was a farce. (Likely.)
B) That she still couldn't answer the previously agreed-upon questions without a little extra help.If true, this is supremely rich coming immediately after a speech in which Palin took a shot at President Obama for using a teleprompter to read his prepared speeches. You can bet that the President wasn't reading scribbles off his extremities while he sparred with Republicans and Democrats in an unscripted format in his recent Q&As.Palin, on the other hand, seems to need a cheat-sheet just to get through a contrived lovefest with a smitten interviewer and an adoring audience.GREAT LEADER FOR THE TEA PARTY Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy AND REPUB PRES CANDIDATE

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=319227.msg4535597#msg4535597

taken from :  http://conversations.blackvoices.com/entertainment/99435682aaea4564b24369ed6fc90973/sarah-palins-tea-party-crib-notes/a0398ca24eff4152a3d409ceb7f24561?sn=2

Crib Notes? This potential presidential candidate and "movement"
leader was using crib notes to answer basic questions?

This would mean:

A) That she knew the questions beforehand and the whole thing was a
farce. (Likely.)

and

B) That she still couldn't answer the previously agreed-upon
questions without a little extra help.

If true, this is supremely rich coming immediately after a speech in
which Palin took a shot at President Obama for using a teleprompter to
read his prepared speeches.

You can bet that the President wasn't reading scribbles off his
extremities while he sparred with Republicans and Democrats in an
unscripted format in his recent Q&As.

Palin, on the other hand, seems to need a cheat-sheet just to get
through a contrived lovefest with a smitten interviewer and an adoring
audience.

I'm no fan of the Tea Party movement - if it can be called such - but
if this is their leader I actually sympathize with them.


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Beck and Limbaugh feed into the need for their listeners to feel superior. the anger of White men who feel put upon by women and minorities who are trying to get America to live up to the promise of truly equal opportunity. They aren't really that good or charismatic. It is just pretty easy to recruit people who are ignorant. People who bought into the idea that being White means you are superior. They feel threatened because they see that even without equal opportunity, women and minorities are able to succeed and crack that ceiling. It scares the shit out of them and pisses them off. Beck and Limbaugh tap into that  of White is right and the problem with America is minorities. Both the hosts and their listeners are disgusting, but not hard to figure out.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=319173.msg4534311#msg4534311

taken from : http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=431468&mesg_id=431687

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33. I am not surprised.
   
Beck and Limbaugh feed into the need for their listeners to feel superior. They espouse the anger of White men who feel put upon by women and minorities who are trying to get America to live up to the promise of truly equal opportunity. They aren't really that good or charismatic. It is just pretty easy to recruit people who are ignorant. People who bought into the idea that being White means you are superior. They feel threatened because they see that even without equal opportunity, women and minorities are able to succeed and crack that ceiling. It scares the shit out of them and pisses them off. Beck and Limbaugh tap into that and stoke it in to an orgasmic frenzy of "White is right" and the problem with America is minorities. Both the hosts and their listeners are disgusting, but not hard to figure out.


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The First Amendment is about freedom of speech. It's not about freedom to spend unlimited amounts of money. It's that difference that makes our political system a democracy ruled by the people, rather than ruled by money or those who have the most money,its going lead to a lot more spending by corporations and special interest. oh by the way i like how you praise the ACLU when they agree with you, you fucking hypocrite this is going to take elections out of the hands of the voters and put it in the hands of corps. and special interest groups, but your probably to stupid to realise that

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=318609.msg4524437#msg4524437

taken from:   http://distributismblog.blogspot.com/

Sunday, January 24, 2010
Youn vs. Simpson on Supreme Court Ruling for Corporate Influence

    The First Amendment is about freedom of speech. It's not about freedom to spend unlimited amounts of money. It's that difference that makes our political system a democracy ruled by the people, rather than a plutocracy ruled by money or those who have the most money. -- Monica Youn




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The primary leaders of the so-called founding fathers of our nation were not Bible-believing Christians; they were deists. Deism was a philosophical belief that was widely accepted by the colonial  at the time of the American Revolution. Its major tenets included belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems and belief in a supreme deity who created the universe to operate solely by natural laws. The supreme God of the Deists removed himself entirely from the universe after creating it. They believed that he assumed no control over it, exerted no influence on natural phenomena, and gave no supernatural revelation to man. A necessary consequence of these beliefs was a rejection of many doctrines central to the Christian religion. Deists did not believe in the virgin birth, divinity, or resurrection of Jesus, the efficacy of prayer, the miracles of the Bible, or even the divine inspiration of the Bible.

Other important founding fathers who espoused Deism were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, James Madison, and James Monroe.

Fundamentalist Christians are currently working overtime to convince the American public that the founding fathers intended to establish this country on "biblical principles," but history simply does not support their view. The men mentioned above and others who were instrumental in the founding of our nation were in no sense Bible-believing Christians. Thomas Jefferson, in fact, was fiercely anti-cleric. In a letter to Horatio Spafford in 1814, Jefferson said, "In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is easier to acquire wealth and power by this combination than by deserving them, and to effect this, they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer for their purposes" (George Seldes, The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey Citadel Press, 1983, p. 371). In a letter to Mrs. Harrison Smith, he wrote, "It is in our lives, and not from our words, that our religion must be read. By the same test the world must judge me. But this does not satisfy the priesthood. They must have a positive, a declared assent to all their interested absurdities. My opinion is that there would never have been an infidel, if there had never been a priest" (August 6, 1816).

Jefferson was just as suspicious of the traditional belief that the Bible is "the inspired word of God." He rewrote the story of Jesus as told in the New Testament and compiled his own gospel version known as The Jefferson Bible, which eliminated all miracles attributed to Jesus and ended with his burial. The Jeffersonian gospel account contained no resurrection, a twist to the life of Jesus that was considered scandalous to Christians but perfectly sensible to Jefferson's Deistic mind. In a letter to John Adams, he wrote, "To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, God, are immaterial is to say they are nothings, or that there is no God, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise" (August 15, 1820). In saying this, Jefferson was merely expressing the widely held Deistic view of his time, which rejected the mysticism of the Bible and relied on natural law and human reason to explain why the world is as it is. Writing to Adams again, Jefferson said, "And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" (April 11, 1823). These were hardly the words of a devout Bible-believer.

Jefferson didn't just reject the Christian belief that the Bible was "the inspired word of God"; he rejected the Christian system too. In Notes on the State of Virginia, he said of this religion, "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites" (quoted by newspaper columnist William Edelen, "Politics and Religious Illiteracy," Truth Seeker, Vol. 121, No. 3, p. 33). Anyone today who would make a statement like this or others we have quoted from Jefferson's writings would be instantly branded an infidel, yet modern Bible fundamentalists are frantically trying to cast Jefferson in the mold of a Bible believing Christian. They do so, of course, because Jefferson was just too important in the formation of our nation to leave him out if Bible fundamentalists hope to sell their "Christian-nation" claim to the public. Hence, they try to rewrite history to make it appear that men like Thomas Jefferson had intended to build our nation on "biblical principles." The irony of this situation is that the Christian leaders of Jefferson's time knew where he stood on "biblical principles," and they fought desperately, but unsuccessfully, to prevent his election to the presidency. Saul K. Padover's biography related the bitterness of the opposition that the clergy mounted against Jefferson in the campaign of 1800

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=315050.msg4516994#msg4516994

taken from :  http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/farrell_till/myth.html

The Christian Nation Myth
Farrell Till

Whenever the Supreme Court makes a decision that in any way restricts the intrusion of religion into the affairs of government, a flood of editorials, articles, and letters protesting the ruling is sure to appear in the newspapers. Many protesters decry these decisions on the grounds that they conflict with the wishes and intents of the "founding fathers."

Such a view of American history is completely contrary to known facts. The primary leaders of the so-called founding fathers of our nation were not Bible-believing Christians; they were deists. Deism was a philosophical belief that was widely accepted by the colonial intelligentsia at the time of the American Revolution. Its major tenets included belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems and belief in a supreme deity who created the universe to operate solely by natural laws. The supreme God of the Deists removed himself entirely from the universe after creating it. They believed that he assumed no control over it, exerted no influence on natural phenomena, and gave no supernatural revelation to man. A necessary consequence of these beliefs was a rejection of many doctrines central to the Christian religion. Deists did not believe in the virgin birth, divinity, or resurrection of Jesus, the efficacy of prayer, the miracles of the Bible, or even the divine inspiration of the Bible.

These beliefs were forcefully articulated by Thomas Paine in Age of Reason, a book that so outraged his contemporaries that he died rejected and despised by the nation that had once revered him as "the father of the American Revolution." To this day, many mistakenly consider him an atheist, even though he was an out spoken defender of the Deistic view of God. Other important founding fathers who espoused Deism were George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Ethan Allen, James Madison, and James Monroe.

Fundamentalist Christians are currently working overtime to convince the American public that the founding fathers intended to establish this country on "biblical principles," but history simply does not support their view. The men mentioned above and others who were instrumental in the founding of our nation were in no sense Bible-believing Christians. Thomas Jefferson, in fact, was fiercely anti-cleric. In a letter to Horatio Spafford in 1814, Jefferson said, "In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is easier to acquire wealth and power by this combination than by deserving them, and to effect this, they have perverted the purest religion ever preached to man into mystery and jargon, unintelligible to all mankind, and therefore the safer for their purposes" (George Seldes, The Great Quotations, Secaucus, New Jersey Citadel Press, 1983, p. 371). In a letter to Mrs. Harrison Smith, he wrote, "It is in our lives, and not from our words, that our religion must be read. By the same test the world must judge me. But this does not satisfy the priesthood. They must have a positive, a declared assent to all their interested absurdities. My opinion is that there would never have been an infidel, if there had never been a priest" (August 6, 1816).

Jefferson was just as suspicious of the traditional belief that the Bible is "the inspired word of God." He rewrote the story of Jesus as told in the New Testament and compiled his own gospel version known as The Jefferson Bible, which eliminated all miracles attributed to Jesus and ended with his burial. The Jeffersonian gospel account contained no resurrection, a twist to the life of Jesus that was considered scandalous to Christians but perfectly sensible to Jefferson's Deistic mind. In a letter to John Adams, he wrote, "To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, God, are immaterial is to say they are nothings, or that there is no God, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise" (August 15, 1820). In saying this, Jefferson was merely expressing the widely held Deistic view of his time, which rejected the mysticism of the Bible and relied on natural law and human reason to explain why the world is as it is. Writing to Adams again, Jefferson said, "And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" (April 11, 1823). These were hardly the words of a devout Bible-believer.

Jefferson didn't just reject the Christian belief that the Bible was "the inspired word of God"; he rejected the Christian system too. In Notes on the State of Virginia, he said of this religion, "There is not one redeeming feature in our superstition of Christianity. It has made one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites" (quoted by newspaper columnist William Edelen, "Politics and Religious Illiteracy," Truth Seeker, Vol. 121, No. 3, p. 33). Anyone today who would make a statement like this or others we have quoted from Jefferson's writings would be instantly branded an infidel, yet modern Bible fundamentalists are frantically trying to cast Jefferson in the mold of a Bible believing Christian. They do so, of course, because Jefferson was just too important in the formation of our nation to leave him out if Bible fundamentalists hope to sell their "Christian-nation" claim to the public. Hence, they try to rewrite history to make it appear that men like Thomas Jefferson had intended to build our nation on "biblical principles." The irony of this situation is that the Christian leaders of Jefferson's time knew where he stood on "biblical principles," and they fought desperately, but unsuccessfully, to prevent his election to the presidency. Saul K. Padover's biography related the bitterness of the opposition that the clergy mounted against Jefferson in the campaign of 1800

Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Kazan on February 15, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
Damn blacken is down with OPP
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Skip8282 on February 15, 2010, 12:57:43 PM
lol...damn.  Do you have an original thoughts blacken?
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 01:15:56 PM
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lol...damn.  Do you have an original thoughts blacken?

evidently not.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 01:17:39 PM
evidently not.

James is laying the beatdown like NEVER before! 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 15, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
February 12th
More Americans blame the Bush administration for the nation's economic troubles than the Obama administration, according to a new poll.




(CNN) - More than a year after President George W. Bush left office, more Americans continue to blame his administration over any other entity for the nation's economic woes, according to a new poll.

In a New York Times/CBS News survey out Friday, 31 percent of Americans said the Bush administration is at fault for the current state of the economy while only 7 percent pointed their finger at President Obama and his team.

An additional 23 percent said the fault lies with Wall Street institutions while 13 percent assign the blame to Congress. Nearly 10 percent said the blame lies with all of them.

In a CNN/Opinion Research poll released last November, the public appeared split on who should be blamed if economic conditions don't approve: 47 percent said Bush and congressional Republicans while 45 percent said Obama and congressional Democrats.

"The public still tends to blame the Republicans for current economic conditions,"  said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "But looking forward is another matter. Americans think the GOP is responsible for getting us into this mess, but they think both parties are responsible for getting us out of it."

The poll, conducted February 5-10, interviewed 1,084 Americans and carries a sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.




W fuked this country over and Americans know it!   

I stopped reading after "CNN".
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 01:23:51 PM
I stopped reading after "CNN".

You should read this entire thread and the beatdown James administered to Blacken! 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 15, 2010, 01:29:06 PM
You should read this entire thread and the beatdown James administered to Blacken! 

Oh shit..I just did :o

Remind me not piss James off!!
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 01:35:54 PM
Oh shit..I just did :o

Remind me not piss James off!!

Just dont plagerize mindless leftist jibberish and you will be fine.   
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 01:58:55 PM
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Oh shit..I just did Shocked

Remind me not piss James off!!

LOL!!!
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 02:00:45 PM
LOL!!!

Yeah, blacken is done for at least a month or two after this. 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 02:09:06 PM
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Yeah, blacken is done for at least a month or two after this.


Does that mean he will plagiarize behind a new alias for "at least month or two" ?   ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 02:12:57 PM


Does that mean he will plagiarize behind a new alias for "at least month or two" ?   ;D

James- this is your best day ever on this site! 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 02:15:29 PM
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James- this is your best day ever on this site!  

333,  Where is Billy today ?

He is missing out on a good laugh.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 02:16:49 PM
Where is Billy today ?

He is missing a good laugh.

Dont worry - this thread will be around for awhile.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 15, 2010, 02:19:02 PM
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Dont worry - this thread will be around for awhile.


It has made a good laugh, for a monday at least.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 15, 2010, 02:21:53 PM

It has made a good laugh, for a monday at least.

Blacken cant talk squat about palin anyomore. 
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Skip8282 on February 15, 2010, 03:02:16 PM
Well...this certainly explains his penchant for endlessly posting YouTube clips.  He can't think on his own and has to have others do it for him.  Kinda feel some pity....nah, I guess I don't.
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Montague on February 15, 2010, 03:25:02 PM
I think it should also tell everyone to ignore anything he posts.

I already employ this practice with several posters on here.
Most of them use retort that consists of name-calling & other irrational/juvenile/illogical behavior - anything unrelated that detracts from the issue in question (the one they're loosing).


Well...this certainly explains his penchant for endlessly posting YouTube clips.  He can't think on his own and has to have others do it for him.  Kinda feel some pity....nah, I guess I don't.

At least he’s broadened the scope of his cut & paste abilities beyond youtube.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: James on February 16, 2010, 09:11:07 AM
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At least he’s broadened the scope of his cut & paste abilities beyond youtube.  

Where is Blacken today ?  
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 16, 2010, 09:13:29 AM
Where is Blacken today ?  

Another lib bites the dust.   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Poll: Bush still blamed for economy
Post by: Skip8282 on February 16, 2010, 06:59:44 PM
Where is Blacken today ? 

You didn't actually think that a wannabe socialist would have any shame in taking from others, did you?