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mel kipa's mock
1. St. Louis Rams: Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
Can't go wrong with this pick, and until the Rams say they are going to draft a QB or trade the pick, there is no reason anyone should have a QB here.
My Pick: Suh
2. Detroit Lions: Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
Another safe but smart pick by Kiper. Detroit has made a strong stance that they don't want to swap their OTs, and a safety second overall would be groundbreaking.
My Pick: G. McCoy
3. Tampa Bay Bucs: Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
Kiper points out that difference-making safeties are in higher demand than ever in the NFL. With the fact that last year was a poor safety draft and that Tampa has a tie to Berry, this seems like a lock despite what history suggests.
My Pick: Berry
4. Washington Redskins: Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
Bradford was Kiper's top player entering the season, and he insists he hasn't seen anything on the field to suggest Bradford isn't a top five talent. I saw Bradford holding his shoulder twice and throwing off his back foot quite a bit dating back to the National Championship Game. How will he throw behind a very suspect line?
My Pick: Russell Okung
5. Kansas City Chiefs: Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
At five, it's hard to pass on a talent like Okung when you have needs on the offensive line, but KC has bigger needs on defense in my opinion. Jamaal Charles ran wild late in the year, and Matt Cassel is the type of QB who will always attract sacks. The talented Okung is hard to pass though.
My Pick: Rolando McClain
6. Seattle Seahawks: Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
Could the Hawks use Morgan? Without a doubt, but their pass rush wasn't as bad as their pass coverage or pass protection, and there are highly ranked players at six to address both of those needs. Morgan's ability to play the run will upgrade the defense tremendously, however.
My Pick: Joe Haden
7. Cleveland Browns: Joe Haden, CB, Florida
If Haden falls to seven, he looks like a lock for the Browns. Mike Holmgren is big on drafting DBs early, and Haden may be the NFL's next elite corner. As Mel says, the Browns "can't go wrong" by picking Haden considering their coverage woes.
My Pick: Morgan
8. Oakland Raiders: Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
The Raiders had some surprise victories last season, and with a talented stable of backs, they could have a few more if their line improves. Davis would be a nice fit in Oakland, although he was inconsistent. At times he plays up to his competition, and if he plays at an NFL level every Sunday, we may see the Raiders fighting for a playoff spot—well, maybe.
My Pick: Bruce Campbell
9. Buffalo Bills: Jimmy Clausen, QB, Notre Dame
With years of experience in a pro-style offense, Clausen is much more NFL-ready than some want to give him credit for. New coach Chan Gailey is looking for a QB of his own, which usually means drafting one who hasn't been ruined already. Clausen's experience in bad weather is a plus for the Bills.
My Pick: Clausen
10. Denver Broncos (from Chicago): Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State
Until Denver comes out and says Brandon Marshall is staying, this pick looks like a lock. Some scouts feel Bryant will grade out higher than Michael Crabtree, which may be debatable on the field, but at least we will see what he can do in the competitive pre-draft environment.
My Pick: Bryant
11. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
There are two schools of thought in the 2010 NFL Draft: One thinks JAX will draft Tim Tebow, and the other thinks they will draft for need. Mel does not believe the Jags will draft Tebow "just to sell tickets." Pierre-Paul is a rare talent, but his rawness makes him a potential bust. Would Carlos Dunlap be the better option at end?
My Pick: Tim Tebow
12. Miami Dolphins - Rolando McClain, LB, Alabama
There is one backer in this draft who is a lock to be a stud in any system, and that's McClain. At 12 he is a great value pick for Miami, and he fills a need too.
My Pick: C.J. Spiller
13. San Francisco 49ers: Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
This might be a small reach for a right tackle considering SF has another pick later in the draft. I would like to see the Niners grab a safety or Spiller here and a lineman with their second pick, but drafting a starter is never a bad thing.
My Pick: Taylor Mays
14. Seattle Seahawks (From Denver): C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
Pete Carroll has a road map for the talent he wants to bring in, and as we know from his units at USC, he loves dynamic backfield players. Spiller can be more of a running back than Reggie Bush and equally impressive in the return game.
My Pick: A. Davis
15. New York Giants: Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
Kiper feels the defensive line depth of the Giants has been overstated, but looking at their roster, I see many edge rushers. Dunlap has great potential, but his commitment is a question, and if the Giants are switching to a cover 2, they may need other positions more.
My Pick: Navorro Bowman
16. San Francisco 49ers (from Carolina): Earl Thomas, S, Texas
If the Niners can grab Thomas at 16 after taking Williams at 13, it will be a very successful first round. The ball-hawk safety isn't the biggest prospect, but he is productive and confident.
My Pick: T. Williams
17. Tennessee Titans: Everson Griffen, DE, Southern California
Any mock that doesn't have the Titans taking a defensive lineman is questionable in my eyes, and it looks like Mel agrees. With the top three ends off the board, the Titans are left with Griffen, or they could draft a DT. I'm not sure Griffen has the elite pass rush skills the Titans need to pressure the QB more in 2010.
My Pick: Pierre-Paul
18. Pittsburgh Steelers: Bryan Bulaga, OT, Iowa
Watching Big Ben pump fake three times and get sacked got tiresome this season, and after back-to-back years of terrible line play, it's time to update the unit. Bulaga may start on the right side initially, but he projects to be a very good left tackle one day, and as Mel points out, Bulaga won't need to change his wardrobe.
My Pick: E. Thomas
19. Atlanta Falcons: Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
The Falcons are looking for linebackers and ends, and they might have found both in Kindle. When tested against Oklahoma and Alabama, Kindle performed from the DE position. He may be uncomfortable at times in the Falcons' system, but his former teammate Brian Orakpo had no trouble being productive in the 4-3 this year.
My Pick: Brian Price
20. Houston Texans: Brian Price, DT, UCLA
In their short existence we have seen the Texans actively upgrade their defensive line in the draft, and there is nothing to indicate they won't continue to do so—it's just a matter of which player. Price is a very active tackle, and while I think a clogger might have more of an impact in stopping the run, the Texans may fall in love with Price's upside.
My Pick: Dan Williams
21. Cincinnati Bengals: Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida
This pick is a reach in my eyes. Hernandez is an athletic TE/H-Back who can be used all over the field, but because he lacks prototypical size, I'm not sure he's first round talent. An impressive forty will go a long way.
My Pick: Mike Iupati
22. New England Patriots: Ricky Sapp, DE/OLB, Clemson
Like Hernandez, Sapp is a fringe first rounder who just needs one 3-4 team to fall in love with him. The Pats defense was the worst it's been in a decade, and personnel changes this offseason will create a need at the nine-tech.
My Pick: Dunlap
23. Green Bay Packers: Taylor Mays, S, Southern California
With dynamic safeties in high demand, I have a hard time seeing Mays slide past teams like Pittsburgh and Houston. If the Packers do get him, it could result in the steal of the draft.
My Pick: Bulaga
24. Philadelphia Eagles: Navorro Bowman, LB, Penn State
The Eagles have a handful of backers looking for contracts, and none of those players are as good as Bowman. We've seen enough "undersized" backers do well enough in the NFL that an inch or two shouldn't matter when you have on-field production like his.
My Pick: Griffen
25. Baltimore Ravens: Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
After taking a year off from the game due to injury, similar to his teammate Bradford, it's hard to call Gresham a lock in the first round. Ozzie Newsome of the Ravens knows his tight ends, so if Gresham is that good he could be their pick, but an eventual starter doesn't seem like the best pick considering their need at receiver.
My Pick: Arrelious Benn
26. Arizona Cardinals: Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee
Kiper feels a nose tackle is the second biggest need for the Cards, and I agree with him that if Williams is on the board it will be a tough pass. The Cards do have two old outside backers and some questionable things going on at tackle, and I see either being addressed if Williams is off the board.
My Pick: Brandon Graham
27. Dallas Cowboys: Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
I love this pick for the Cowboys, but I have Campbell going off the board almost 20 picks earlier. Flozell Adams is nearing the end of his career, and the Cowboys need depth now and possibly a player who can start in 2010. If Campbell is gone, will they reach for another tackle though?
My Pick: Brandon Spikes
28. San Diego Chargers: Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
Rumors are that the Chargers and LT will be parting ways, and while Darren Sproles has done well as a starter, it's not foreseeable he can handle the load for 16 games. Dwyer would be a nice thunder to Sproles' lightning, and he is deceptive similar to the Jets' Shonn Greene. A new nose might have more impact though.
My Pick: Terrence Cody
29. New York Jets: Golden Tate, WR, Notre Dame
Many see the Jets going with a WR in the first round, and I like the big-play threat of Tate to blend with the Jets' offensive style. Tate would be the third WR as a rookie and maybe even longer depending on NY's feelings towards Braylon Edwards, making this pick a bit of a luxury, but the talent is there.
My Pick: Kindle
30. Minnesota Vikings: Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
Looking at the players left on the board after Kiper's first 29 picks, the Vikings will have a very tough time drafting. Robinson has just as many proponents as he does doubters, but he could be a very good starting corner for the next decade. With this board I would rather see the Vikings grab guard Mike Iupati to help them run right more.
My Pick: Bradford
31. New Orleans Saints: Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State
Odrick is a talented defensive tackle, and he and Terrence Cody will be pushing the saturation rate of DTs in the first round. The Saints like bigger D-linemen, which is exactly what Odrick is, and he is a standout against the run.
My Pick: Sean Weatherspoon
32. Indianapolis Colts: Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
Drafting Graham would be an example of the rich getting richer, and if Indy is going with the BPA strategy, as they commonly do, it's a great pick. I don't see Graham transitioning into a 4-3 backer because he is so effective on the LOS, where he plays the run just as well as the pass.
My Pick: Charles Brown
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ill post mike mayocks mock as soon as it comes out
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I'm thinking linebacker or safety for the Giants first pick.
if either Mays or the LB from Alabama drop to 15 they will go that way.if not maybe a trade or best player available.
also maybe Spikes from Florida depending how they grade him.
the Gmen always draft on college production with their first pic.
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The WR class in this year's draft is extremely weak. The Ravens will have to address that need in free agency. They need to look at a CB or DE in the draft's first two rounds.
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32. Indianapolis Colts: Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
Drafting Graham would be an example of the rich getting richer, and if Indy is going with the BPA strategy, as they commonly do, it's a great pick. I don't see Graham transitioning into a 4-3 backer because he is so effective on the LOS, where he plays the run just as well as the pass.
I would rather have Graham on the Pats. >:(
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32. Indianapolis Colts: Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, Michigan
Drafting Graham would be an example of the rich getting richer, and if Indy is going with the BPA strategy, as they commonly do, it's a great pick. I don't see Graham transitioning into a 4-3 backer because he is so effective on the LOS, where he plays the run just as well as the pass.
I would rather have Graham on the Pats. >:(
Donald Brown did little this year, Gonzo has been average (When he not hurt which is all the time), Addai is average (When he's not hurt) and Tony Yugo has been a bust. Polian is one of the very best, but his first round hits have been few and far between recently.
You're right about Graham though.
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Donald Brown did little this year, Gonzo has been average (When he not hurt which is all the time), Addai is average (When he's not hurt) and Tony Yugo has been a bust. Polian is one of the very best, but his first round hits have been few and far between recently.
You're right about Graham though.
Graham is like Dwight Freeney and with the help of the Pats coaching staff could help him even more! I watched alot of MICHIGAN football games the last two years and Brandon Graham was always doubled team but still made plays for us. 8) I would like him on my Lions but Brandon Graham worked so hard and i would really hate to see him get ruined by Detroit. >:(
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I gave ron permission to ban anyone who posts anything todd mcshay related :P
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mel kipa's mock
Dallas wants a DT but they don't NEED a Suh or McCoy. But if either slip Jerry won't hesitate haking their dreams come true. I like McCoy better than Suh though.
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Dallas wants a DT but they don't NEED a Suh or McCoy. But if either slip Jerry won't hesitate haking their dreams come true. I like McCoy better than Suh though.
My Lions are going to take McCoy. >:( SUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 8)
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My Lions are going to take McCoy. >:( SUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH 8)
WR The traditional Lions pick!
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WR The traditional Lions pick!
We will problary take Arelious Benn with the #2 pick. :D
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We will problary take Arelious Benn with the #2 pick. :D
You can always give US the pick and take Roy Williams back.
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You can always give US the pick and take Roy Williams back.
What a bust? He sucks ass and was actually a so-so player for my Lions.
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What a bust? He sucks ass and was actually a so-so player for my Lions.
Well my qb claims he and Roy worked together all through out offseason. I'm not calling Tony a liar but he can sprain his back carrying Roy another year.
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Well my qb claims he and Roy worked together all through out offseason. I'm not calling John Kitna a liar but he can sprain his back carrying Roy another year.
:D :o
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:D :o
This years draft is kind of weird becasue we really have no major need. Maybe a new big OL but those can be found all over the draft.
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This years draft is kind of weird becasue we really have no major need. Maybe a new big OL but those can be found all over the draft.
You guys need Bruce Campbell out of Maryland and he has a great name also!
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You guys need Bruce Campbell out of Maryland and he has a great name also!
I've heard of him. His name has been mentioned a bit around Dallas. I just liked the OL prospects last year more than this year. Especially the guys from Oklahoma.
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I've heard of him. His name has been mentioned a bit around Dallas. I just liked the OL prospects last year more than this year. Especially the guys from Oklahoma.
BRUCE CAMPBELL IS THE BEST EVER!!
EVIL DEAD
PERIOD
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If he is, then we can't get him.
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Dallas wants a DT but they don't NEED a Suh or McCoy. But if either slip Jerry won't hesitate haking their dreams come true. I like McCoy better than Suh though.
Neither is gonna slip like that.
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Neither is gonna slip like that.
All it takes is a rumor or 2 and a top for sure First Pick could end up awaiting a call the Monday after the draft.
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All it takes is a rumor or 2 and a top for sure First Pick could end up awaiting a call the Monday after the draft.
Ok....
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Ok....
Mel Kiper is the only one affected from players slipping out the draft.
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bruce campbell ran a 4.78 at around 315 lbs :-X
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bruce campbell ran a 4.78 at around 315 lbs :-X
Did you see his standing vertical jump? Unreal.
Strong too. Put up over 30 reps on the benchpress. He made himself a shit load of money at this combine. Dude looks like a tight end but I'm not convinced he's 315, though. Looks more like 280-290, tops.
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bruce campbell ran a 4.78 at around 315 lbs :-X
One problem .......muscled linemen don't do well. See Tony Manderich!!!!
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One problem .......muscled linemen don't do well. See Tony Manderich!!!!
Tell that to Al Davis.
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Tell that to Al Davis.
Robert Gallery says it all.
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Robert Gallery says it all.
I knew that he was going to be a BUST!!
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I knew that he was going to be a BUST!!
Grove was the best player on the Raiders line and wanted out when Gallery got the big payday Grove deserved.
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Alot of dispute of the supposed time Taylor Mays ran in the 40.
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Alot of dispute of the supposed time Taylor Mays ran in the 40.
5.6 ? Its believable. He wants to play safety but lets face it, he'll be a NOSE TACKLE!!!!!
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5.6 ? Its believable. He wants to play safety but lets face it, he'll be a NOSE TACKLE!!!!!
No,anywhere from 4.3 to 4.43.
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No,anywhere from 4.3 to 4.43.
He's overweight though. In danger of a Roy Williams (current) future.
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He's overweight though. In danger of a Roy Williams (current) future.
Taylor Mays had a good combine but will he ever be that bext great safety?
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Alot of dispute of the supposed time Taylor Mays ran in the 40.
My bad, He DID do a 4.24 not bad for a fat guy though. I like him but he's too big for safety.
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Taylor Mays had a good combine but will he ever be that bext great safety?
Another Roy I guess. And to think we NEED a safety.
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Taylor Mays had a good combine but will he ever be that bext great safety?
Thats the big question.I'm torn as a Giants fan......we so need safety and LB help.might be able to get LB help in free agency but not so much safety help.if the Gmen get a Dansby or Brackett I can see them picking Mays if he's there at 15.
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Thats the big question.I'm torn as a Giants fan......we so need safety and LB help.might be able to get LB help in free agency but not so much safety help.if the Gmen get a Dansby or Brackett I can see them picking Mays if he's there at 15.
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Thats the big question.I'm torn as a Giants fan......we so need safety and LB help.might be able to get LB help in free agency but not so much safety help.if the Gmen get a Dansby or Brackett I can see them picking Mays if he's there at 15.
I watched alot of U$C games this year and he either went for the big hit or just disaperred. Mays takes really, really bad angles and is not a great Tackler but is a freak. :o
If i were a Giants fan, take Ronaldo Mclain out of Bama. ;)
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One problem .......muscled linemen don't do well. See Tony Manderich!!!!
BOOM...I feel like, if Campbell was so dope...why havent i heard about him until the combine...workout warrior...
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I hope we let Rashad go as well as parker...reach for TOBY.....Rb from Stanford...Certified BEAST!!!!!!
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I watched alot of U$C games this year and he either went for the big hit or just disaperred. Mays takes really, really bad angles and is not a great Tackler but is a freak. :o
If i were a Giants fan, take Ronaldo Mclain out of Bama. ;)
Doubt,Ronaldo will be there at 15.if he was I'm sure the Gmen would set a record 40 time getting the pic in ;D
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Doubt,Ronaldo will be there at 15.if he was I'm sure the Gmen would set a record 40 time getting the pic in ;D
Yea, i think Miami will ponce on Mcclain!
I am laughing while seeing Donovan Warren going as high as the first round.
I loved him at MICHIGAN but he NEEDED his senior year so bad. >:(
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BOOM...I feel like, if Campbell was so dope...why havent i heard about him until the combine...workout warrior...
I hope Washington gets him and starts him a left OT.
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Yea, i think Miami will ponce on Mcclain!
I am laughing while seeing Donovan Warren going as high as the first round.
I loved him at MICHIGAN but he NEEDED his senior year so bad. >:(
When you "loved" him, did he come? :-\
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When you "loved" him, did he come? :-\
Fuck off about the gay shit but i am watching him slip so much. >:(
Dick Rod tried to get him to stay but i knew once he choose MICHIGAN, he was three and done. >:(
I saw him hit his head on on a tackle and i believe "THAT" was a major factor in his decision to leave.
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I hope Washington gets him and starts him a left OT.
Hey do you know the story to why Ware didnt go to a major school?
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musclemen dont do well? leonard davis is doing pretty damn good so far..
whats your definition of muscle men? workout warrior? tony mandarich wasnt just an athletic freak who measured well at the combine...he dominated in college. Just because a guy is an athletic god doesnt mean he'll be a bust at the next level. Urlacher ran a 4.5 at 260..hes doin fine..d ware ran a 4.5 at 250..hes doin great..kearse 4.4 at 265..he did fine at the pros.
Mandarich was such an epic bust because he dominated in college along with wow'ing scouts at the combine. Bruce campbell? i guarentee most people in here never heard of him before the combine. just saying.
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Hey do you know the story to why Ware didnt go to a major school?
Didin't he go to Troy? ???
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Didin't he go to Troy? ???
Well he's not THAT bright (kind of Bubba'ish see Gump) yet he was undersized for a DE. So those 2 must be why Auburn said no. Yet he's the same size as auburn' Coleman!!!!
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Sorry but todays linemen need cushion. LD is muscular but he has LOTS of mush! Which keeps Tony alive.
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Fuck off about the gay shit but i am watching him slip so much. >:(
Dick Rod tried to get him to stay but i knew once he choose MICHIGAN, he was three and done. >:(
I saw him hit his head on on a tackle and i believe "THAT" was a major factor in his decision to leave.
Messin with ya. :D.
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I didnt know 315 pounds wasnt a sufficient amount of "cushion". Lol.
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I didnt know 315 pounds wasnt a sufficient amount of "cushion". Lol.
The Terp guy looks all muscle and has a v-taper. And if he runs a 4.7, I'd put him at DE!!!!!!