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The comparison is ridiculous to try to make. The difference is a lot of right wing extremism comes from the fools rush and o-reilly. Tiller the killer references being the most recent. Obama has never said go shoot up a university. Nice try gimmick
The comparison is ridiculous to try to make. The difference is a lot of right wing extremism comes from the fools rush and o-reilly. Tiller the killer references being the most recent. Obama has never said go shoot up a university. Nice try gimmick
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The comparison is ridiculous to try to make. The difference is a lot of right wing extremism comes from the fools rush and o-reilly. Tiller the killer references being the most recent. Obama has never said go shoot up a university. Nice try gimmick
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The comparison is ridiculous to try to make. The difference is a lot of right wing extremism comes from the fools rush and o-reilly. Tiller the killer references being the most recent. Obama has never said go shoot up a university. Nice try gimmick
Where oh where does he talk about violence against anyone? You cannot see the valid points he raises at all which is a shame.
What no thread from 240 ?
Oh that's right, only if a killer is a right wing extremist.
‘Oddball’ portrait of Amy Bishop emerges.
Suspect’s family, pals offer clues
"A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was “obsessed” with President Obama to the point of being off-putting."
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?&articleid=1232943&format=&page=1&listingType=Loc#articleFull
What does the supposed obsession with Obama have to do with her shooting her fellow professors...or anyone for that matter?
actually it's because I can't post here without being attacked, being called a kneepadder or "FUKHEAD". Shit gets old. I love this place but I'd rather debate elsewhere, where the article/issue is what's being discussed instead of just bashing/defending.
"Oh come on bro - is there any site on the web that doesnt melt down into insults one way or the other? "
Yeah, but there are 5-6 threads a day that start with "Hey 240, you FUKKHEAD DICKKHEAD, were you too busy kneepadding to catch this? You idiot lib..."
instead of addressing the discussion, it's a flame war, etc etc. that's fun on the main board, but really I come to politics because I love to discuss the news, strategy, world conflict, etc.
so this obamas fault too huh..
hey, i love this place. i was one of the originals (with hugo) back in 2005 begging Ron for a politics board split from general. it just gets too "attack the messenger" sometimes. Now and then I'll work hard on a really insightful post, and it'll be met with "Hey Fcktard, how's that stimulus working out for you!!" It'll derail. I understand it's the nature of message boards though.
hey, i love this place. i was one of the originals (with hugo) back in 2005 begging Ron for a politics board split from general. it just gets too "attack the messenger" sometimes. Now and then I'll work hard on a really insightful post, and it'll be met with "Hey Fcktard, how's that stimulus working out for you!!" It'll derail. I understand it's the nature of message boards though.
wow
so if the guilty is lefty than we shouldn't talk about their political views
but if the guilty were a 50yr old white republican man i'm sure that's all we'd be talking about
.. now i see why those like 240 are avoiding this thread. smart move, i guess.
i was wrong to accuse - I know that now.
Now I would never say "so and so isn't her baby", just like i would never say "Bush let 911 happen". I would say "personally, I believe Bush admin chose not to act for whatever reason".
I would say "I doubt Obama even went to that college", but I wouldn't outright accuse him of lying.
And, I would say Palin probably covered for her kid, which is admirable. i wouldn't accuse her of it... hell, I would do it myself in those circumstances. Too many holes in the story, her obvious lie or exaggeration of "My water broke at
james, you're a dad right? You know enough about childbirth to know that you don't have the water break, then get on a plane 12 hours later with a premature downs birth. Two plane rides, taking pics along the way... skinny pics too... This means she lied somewhere along the line, about a birth, which is VERY ODD. Who lies about a childbirth, for what possible reason?
Coupled with her kid's 6 months' absense from school, car wreck outside teenage mom clinic, and lots of other things, my personal belief is that she's lying. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe not, but it's what I believe. I wouldn't go calling her out on it, but I do think the pieces don't make sense.
So I'm done with personal insults - although they seem to be the norm around here about michelle obama's appearance or barney frank's orientation. Palin either showed bad judgment getting on a plane with no water on a 5th birth, special needs preemie (the worst judgment in history, most parents would agree). Or she lied about childbirth - why the F, I have no clue.
No, it's not a smear. I believe a lot of things about political figures, from today and history. this is a place for debate on politics and political figures.
This is about JUDGMENT. A VP selection needs good judgment.
When any person's water breaks, then she gets on 2 planes without informing pilot, she shows terrible judgment.
If she had killed a person in a lake (kennedy), judgment would be shown to be bad. He rightfully lost chance at presidency as a result of personal behavior showing poor judgment.
If she risked the life of a 7-month old preemie with downs - flying 2 flights with NO internal water - that showed equally poor judgment with another human life. Would you agree?
hey, i love this place. i was one of the originals (with hugo) back in 2005 begging Ron for a politics board split from general. it just gets too "attack the messenger" sometimes. Now and then I'll work hard on a really insightful post, and it'll be met with "Hey Fcktard, how's that stimulus working out for you!!" It'll derail. I understand it's the nature of message boards though.
It was 1 of 2 scenarios. She says it's false, okay.
This is HER version, and I'll accept her at her word then.
Do you believe this showed PISS POOR judgment with another human life? Or do you believe she lied about it for political gain? Which is it dude?
I'm not posting about her child, james. i'm not following any conspiracy theory, nor attacking anyone not named Saran palin. And it's not an attack on her - rather an evaluation of her judgment.
This is HER ACCOUNT of the day's events. She claimed this. period.
Do you think she acted responsibly, or irresponsibly?
I understand that, and that is fair. I think we should adhere to that here. I shall do this from this day fwd.
This means any candidate with a history of beating or raping children also doesn't belong in the public discussion forum, correct? Or does behavior that places kids "at risk" fit relevance?
it's a slippery slope dude. I feel any mom that gets on a plane preggo with a down preemie and water broken 17 hours previous - is just plain irresponsible.
I mean, you know me dude... you know my beleifs. I'm with palin on 90% of issues. I just think she lied, using her kids, to win some love, and that just sucks. So that is the root of it - I think she lied.
Like James said,Maddow,that stupid dyke said it was right wing extremism that killed the census worker,when it was a fucking suicide.Was the muslim who shot up fort hood a right wing extremist who listended to Rush?
What no thread from 240 ?
Oh that's right, only if a killer is thought to be a right wing extremist.
‘Oddball’ portrait of Amy Bishop emerges.
Suspect’s family, pals offer clues
"A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was “obsessed” with President Obama to the point of being off-putting."
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?&articleid=1232943&format=&page=1&listingType=Loc#articleFull
Hmmmm... “obsessed” with President Obama to the point of being off-putting."
...sounds like you could be describing 333386, ...and we know he has a lot of guns too. :-X
Sorry, unlike most left wing kooks, I know how to control my emotions.
Additionally, why I want anyone to harm Obama? He is doing such a great job self destrucing as it is why would I want to get in the way of that?
Are you surrrrrre about that? Sometimes you don't appear very "in control" of your emotions.
You're certainly not the worst culprit as far as appearing emotionally & mentally unstable, ...but you're up there. :D
Who said anything about you harming Obama? I personally don't think you'd ever get close enough to him to do him any harm. I have enough confidence in the Secret Service to say that will never happen, ...I was talking about innocent by standers. People in line at the post office, or in line at the bank, or even at Starbucks... anywhere they happen to be when you decide to lose control and pull out all your little weapons and go postal. :-\
Are you surrrrrre about that? Sometimes you don't appear very "in control" of your emotions.
You're certainly not the worst culprit as far as appearing emotionally & mentally unstable, ...but you're up there. :D
Who said anything about you harming Obama? I personally don't think you'd ever get close enough to him to do him any harm. I have enough confidence in the Secret Service to say that will never happen, ...I was talking about innocent by standers. People in line at the post office, or in line at the bank, or even at Starbucks... anywhere they happen to be when you decide to lose control and pull out all your little weapons and go postal. :-\
and more than anything - I simply she believed she exaggerated her bravery that day. And being lied to sucks dude. Don't try to be a superhero, mrs palin. Just be solid at your job and have a great points of views - she did that! But trying to be "super mom" to be viewed as super-brave by flying despite water broke...
I mean, you know me dude... you know my beleifs. I'm with palin on 90% of issues. I just think she lied, using her kids, to win some love, and that just sucks. So that is the root of it - I think she lied.
A politician exaggerating?Hmmm,do you mean like the heroic Joe Biden ,who to this day,claims his wife was killed by a drunk driver where there is NOT ONE shred of proof that this is the case?Joe Biden ,who tormented the family of the truck driver that ran into Bidens wife by claiming he was drunk when the police said he absolutely wasn't?You mean like Joe Biden claiming his plane was forced down in the hills of Afghanistan and implying it was by enemy fire when it was actually a snow storm?No,sir,politicians never exaggerate.The difference is,you only call out conservatives who do this and call idiots like Biden a good man and intelligent.
Are you surrrrrre about that? Sometimes you don't appear very "in control" of your emotions.
You're certainly not the worst culprit as far as appearing emotionally & mentally unstable, ...but you're up there. :D
Who said anything about you harming Obama? I personally don't think you'd ever get close enough to him to do him any harm. I have enough confidence in the Secret Service to say that will never happen, ...I was talking about innocent by standers. People in line at the post office, or in line at the bank, or even at Starbucks... anywhere they happen to be when you decide to lose control and pull out all your little weapons and go postal. :-\
Its only a matter of time Jag. Those you think are weak, actually are going to tear shit up Jag. Take notice.
Are you surrrrrre about that? Sometimes you don't appear very "in control" of your emotions.
You're certainly not the worst culprit as far as appearing emotionally & mentally unstable, ...but you're up there. :D
Who said anything about you harming Obama? I personally don't think you'd ever get close enough to him to do him any harm. I have enough confidence in the Secret Service to say that will never happen, ...I was talking about innocent by standers. People in line at the post office, or in line at the bank, or even at Starbucks... anywhere they happen to be when you decide to lose control and pull out all your little weapons and go postal. :-\
biden = blowhard d-bag.
I didnlt know that was sitll in dispute to some people.
he is intelligent.
There is a such thing as an intelligent blowhard d-bag.
he is intelligent.
There is a such thing as an intelligent blowhard d-bag.
What do you base that he is intelligent on?What possible thing?He has been on the wrong side of EVERY major issue his entire career.Against the cold war and fought Reagan every step of the way.Against the first gulf war,for the war in Iraq,against the surge,against the Bush tax cuts,against judges like Roberts,please,give me an issue this fool was right on.ONE ISSUE!!!!!This man has done more damage to personal liberty then ANY politician in the history of this country.HE IS THE ARCHITECT on the war on drugs.He has voted for every stupid social program in history that is a total failure.HOW IS HE INTELLIGENT??????
You talk about two issues Palin was for[by the way,your so wrong on the cap and tax issue with her its silly]but ignore the HUNDREDS AND HUNDREADS of issues this fool has been wrong on INCLUDING PLAGERISM for Gods sake.Thats why you cant be taken seriously.You ignore ANYTHING a lib does but jump all over ANYTHING Palin does.Biden has done more to wreck this country then Palin could ever dream of.
well he was right about running for president..he won that one...lmao
intelligent people are on the wrong side of issues all the time.
values and intelligence are two different things.
Are you telling me the inbred IQ hillbilly screaming racist slurs at the CNN camera is more intelligent than PhD Rachel Maddow - because of their differing political beliefs?
If so, that's fine, but it shows political leaning to be a new indicator of intellience - we are going to have to redefine intelligence, since it hasn't been measured that way before.
somewhere in the world, Billy, there is a communist with three PhDs who is damn sure smarter than you.
somewhere in the world, Billy, there is a socialist with three PhDs who is damn sure smarter than you.
You may feel you have more "intelligence" than them when it comes to politics, but they wipe you off the charts in terms of education (book smarts) and intelligence quotient.
When you compare an 80 IQ tea party toothless racist with socialist phd, you're really comparing apples and oranges. One might be smarter politically (by YOUR definition) and the other is smarter by more commonly accepted standards of intelligent measurement.
Hysterical. 240 - this has to be one of your worst posts ever.
somewhere in the world, Billy, there is a communist with three PhDs who is damn sure smarter than you.
somewhere in the world, Billy, there is a socialist with three PhDs who is damn sure smarter than you.
You may feel you have more "intelligence" than them when it comes to politics, but they wipe you off the charts in terms of education (book smarts) and intelligence quotient.
When you compare an 80 IQ tea party toothless racist with socialist phd, you're really comparing apples and oranges. One might be smarter politically (by YOUR definition) and the other is smarter by more commonly accepted standards of intelligent measurement.
Actually...he was right on the money. Just as I think there are some people that are not formerly educated, but can wipe the floor with degree holders. Defining intelligence based on political beliefs is silly at best.
What is the measure? IQ is society's standard:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient
They don't include political beliefs anywhere in there, oddly
mental quotent / society average.
MA/CA.
You're telling me that maddow and biden are less intelligent than the average person in the street, and are below 100 IQ. You're fine to believe that if you'd like. I think their PhD and JD say otherwise, along with ability to speak on issues and recall and debate and understand complex situations, but that's cool.
You think maddow and biden are dumber than joe blow on the street. You think Joe Biden is dumber than the average mtv-watching 18 year old idiot or 55-year old stoner. Okay.
mental quotent / society average.
MA/CA.
You're telling me that maddow and biden are less intelligent than the average person in the street, and are below 100 IQ. You're fine to believe that if you'd like. I think their PhD and JD say otherwise, along with ability to speak on issues and recall and debate and understand complex situations, but that's cool.
You think maddow and biden are dumber than joe blow on the street. You think Joe Biden is dumber than the average mtv-watching 18 year old idiot or 55-year old stoner. Okay.