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Title: Phoenix Pro: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 20, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
Hide taking out the giant Toney Freeman.  Shows you us midgets are starting to take over ;)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on February 20, 2010, 10:45:00 PM
Hide taking out the giant Toney Freeman.  Show you us midgets are starting to take over ;)

oh you just like him because he's short.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 20, 2010, 10:49:38 PM
Toney will be 20% better at the Arnolds and is saving it up to peak then, and will probably place a couple places ahead of Mel and Hide. Back in the day guys like Flex could do a warm-up show looking significantly less than their best and still dominate. I think some of the top contenders these days think they can do the same and simply can't. They're ahead of the pack at their best but not by much and really should be focusing on coming in as good as possible at each show, which I know is hard but I think they'd fair better regardless. There is no one way ahead of anyone else these days
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Parker on February 20, 2010, 10:52:01 PM
Hide taking out the giant Toney Freeman.  Shows you us midgets are starting to take over ;)
WTF, Toney looked better than Hide, and Hide conditioning was better than Melvin's, but Melvin has better shape. Hide, structirally flawed, and he is starting to get the "T-Rex" look.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 20, 2010, 10:53:39 PM
Toney looked much bigger, and easily could have won, yeh just looks like he will peak for the Arnolds.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 20, 2010, 10:54:38 PM
WTF, Toney looked better than Hide, and Hide conditioning was better than Melvin's, but Melvin has better shape. Hide, structirally flawed, and he is starting to get the "T-Rex" look.

From the pre-judging pics Toney looked pretty watery though compared to his best. Mel and hide were both on and have no problem with them winning it I guess.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 20, 2010, 10:55:57 PM
WTF, Toney looked better than Hide, and Hide conditioning was better than Melvin's, but Melvin has better shape. Hide, structirally flawed, and he is starting to get the "T-Rex" look.
X2
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: disturbia on February 20, 2010, 11:33:14 PM
if Matt eats supper tomorrow, and has another serving, that will be known as seconds. If he spills on himself, we could term that "sloppy seconds"

oh btw little guy,...see you at the provincials
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Aerian on February 20, 2010, 11:36:04 PM
Should have been Tony 1st, Hide 2nd and MElvin 3rd.  That would be ok..
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: musclecenter on February 20, 2010, 11:37:17 PM
1. Melvin Anthony
2. Hidetada Yamagishi
3. Toney Freeman
4. Grigori Atoyan
5. Troy Alves
6. Lionel Beyeke
7. Quincy Taylor
8. Alfonso Del Rio
9. Tarek Elsetouhi
10. Moe Bannout
11. John Sherman
12. Johnnie Jackson
13. Frank Roberson
14. Mike Liberatore
15. Eddie Abbew




Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 20, 2010, 11:38:20 PM
if Matt eats supper tomorrow, and has another serving, that will be known as seconds. If he spills on himself, we could term that "sloppy seconds"

oh btw little guy,...see you at the provincials

yes see u there, u better show up!
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: disturbia on February 20, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
yes see u there, u better show up!

Why Matty is that a threat? oh my goodness
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Matt C on February 21, 2010, 12:01:49 AM
Shorter bodybuilders can definitely be viable threats even at the Olympia.  Look at how well Ronny Rockel did last year.

Good for Troy for making the top five.  Kind of sad that bodybuilders who make the top five in pro shows still can't make an awful lot of money in the industry.  It goes to show just how little money there is in the bodybuilding industry.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 21, 2010, 12:20:23 AM
Why Matty is that a threat? oh my goodness

No we're suppose to go to Tim Horton's for coffee and some Boston cream donuts.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: disturbia on February 21, 2010, 12:24:26 AM
No we're suppose to go to Tim Horton's for coffee and some Boston cream donuts.

I know one of your buddies in these pics
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 21, 2010, 12:27:30 AM
Shorter bodybuilders can definitely be viable threats even at the Olympia.  Look at how well Ronny Rockel did last year.

Good for Troy for making the top five.  Kind of sad that bodybuilders who make the top five in pro shows still can't make an awful lot of money in the industry.  It goes to show just how little money there is in the bodybuilding industry.

Yeh, but could a pro bbing show fill out stadium like the LA Lakers do etc? NO!.  There needs to be more fan support and interest in order for bodybuilders to be paid more.  So we can't blame show promoters etc.  Would it makes sense for MT to pay Jay Cutler $80mill for a 4 year contract?. NO! So is it sad?, well IMO no bodybuilders get paid for what they bring fan wise.  Yeh supp companies could pay bbers more then they do, but really how much further can our sport go, if we don't make it to mainstream media and broaden our audience?.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 21, 2010, 12:30:51 AM
I know one of your buddies in these pics

what pics?.  And how would some chick you got with end up talking about me?, where did i come up in your conversations with this hoe?.  I know I'm kind of a celebrity here in stoon, but geez i didn't know girls were lying about getting with me! :P
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: disturbia on February 21, 2010, 12:38:01 AM
what pics?.  And how would some chick you got with end up talking about me?, where did i come up in your conversations with this hoe?.  I know I'm kind of a celebrity here in stoon, but geez i didn't know girls were lying about getting with me! :P

ya pumpkin you really get with the chics
want me to start postin these mutts you are with in these pics?
Tiff would be a good one to start with, wow shes dreamy   ::)
and oooo Courtney is a real looker  :-X

at least we shared a decent one
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 21, 2010, 12:58:38 AM
Melvin Goodrum 1st?
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: KevinP85 on February 21, 2010, 01:13:22 AM
ya pumpkin you really get with the chics
want me to start postin these mutts you are with in these pics?
Tiff would be a good one to start with, wow shes dreamy   ::)
and oooo Courtney is a real looker  :-X

at least we shared a decent one


You and Matt T shared the same girl?? :o

Go on and post the pics :)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Parker on February 21, 2010, 01:49:17 AM

You and Matt T shared the same girl?? :o

Go on and post the pics :)
Com'on bros before hos...

so that's what the sloppy seconds thing was about...Matt, you ain't getting with the lookers, but with dogs? That ain't right for a up and comer, you need to build up your "program", call it "Playa Squating"
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 21, 2010, 01:54:11 AM
ya pumpkin you really get with the chics
want me to start postin these mutts you are with in these pics?
Tiff would be a good one to start with, wow shes dreamy   ::)
and oooo Courtney is a real looker  :-X

at least we shared a decent one


dude every girl you see me in pics with doesn't mean iv slept with them!?. ::)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 21, 2010, 01:56:13 AM
Com'on bros before hos...

so that's what the sloppy seconds thing was about...Matt, you ain't getting with the lookers, but with dogs? That ain't right for a up and comer, you need to build up your "program", call it "Playa Squating"

my gf is hot, i don't get with dogs, disturbia must have saw me in a pic with some chick he knows, and now is all jealous cause he thinks i banged her ::)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: WillGrant on February 21, 2010, 01:58:28 AM
dont up the dose bro or you will be hitting shit like this next  :o
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: French on February 21, 2010, 03:22:59 AM

From all observer, the only guy who has a futur in bodybuilding is Lionel Beyeke (6)
 
 :)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: spinnis on February 21, 2010, 03:26:20 AM
Libratore out of the top 10 is madness.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 21, 2010, 03:32:25 AM
Libratore out of the top 10 is madness.
And they wanted us to pay to see this shit? ::)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Meso_z on February 21, 2010, 03:38:05 AM
Libratore out of the top 10 is madness.
yep, pretty cool physique..

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_2010.jpg)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: spinnis on February 21, 2010, 03:48:54 AM
yep, pretty cool physique..

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_2010.jpg)

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_1996.jpg)

fucking SHREDDED

and ends up at the same out of place finish like this

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_1934.jpg)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: affeman on February 21, 2010, 03:51:19 AM
yep, pretty cool physique..

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_2010.jpg)

Liberatore got robbed badly, could have been Top 5. Ripped to shreds and no lacking bodyparts. A lil more backthickness and that guy is a top contendor.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: kawaks on February 21, 2010, 04:02:57 AM
Liberatore got robbed badly, could have been Top 5. Ripped to shreds and no lacking bodyparts. A lil more backthickness and that guy is a top contendor.

And how did Grigori Atoyan with structural flaws get 4th place? (no hate post).
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Meso_z on February 21, 2010, 04:22:39 AM
(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_1996.jpg)

fucking SHREDDED

and ends up at the same out of place finish like this

(http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/photos/transferred/JEB_1934.jpg)

wtf....

JJ should retire.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: littleguns on February 21, 2010, 04:38:22 AM
Toney will be 20% better at the Arnolds and is saving it up to peak then, and will probably place a couple places ahead of Mel and Hide. Back in the day guys like Flex could do a warm-up show looking significantly less than their best and still dominate. I think some of the top contenders these days think they can do the same and simply can't. They're ahead of the pack at their best but not by much and really should be focusing on coming in as good as possible at each show, which I know is hard but I think they'd fair better regardless. There is no one way ahead of anyone else these days

This is such BS....this is an excuse why a competitor doesn't place well. Much if not all a Pros income is from shows....so what you're saying is you didn't care about the Prize money regardless of how much it is?
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: disturbia on February 21, 2010, 04:44:37 AM
my gf is hot, i don't get with dogs, disturbia must have saw me in a pic with some chick he knows, and now is all jealous cause he thinks i banged her ::)

no girl in her right mind who is hot goes out with a dwarf
whatever Im sure she will be with you at provincials, I will see there

and you really believe I am lying,..........she's not in any of the pics, I looked
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: WillGrant on February 21, 2010, 04:45:43 AM
I feel like some food
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: disturbia on February 21, 2010, 04:47:51 AM
I feel like some food

I have insomnia
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: WillGrant on February 21, 2010, 04:52:22 AM
I have insomnia
I just had a tune up and have staind/arron lewis "right here" cranking through the ol headphones and will not sleep now also because i am now blazed  ;D
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: musclecenter on February 21, 2010, 08:12:05 AM
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 08:18:05 AM
This is such BS....this is an excuse why a competitor doesn't place well. Much if not all a Pros income is from shows....so what you're saying is you didn't care about the Prize money regardless of how much it is?

Bullshit? Were you born yesterday? Or just new to bodybuilding? It's hard for bodybuilders to peak twice in a short period of time, let alone once, and Toney is priming for the Arnolds (bigger purse) hence why he wasn't at his best. I have little interest to who wins so it's not excuse making. I picked Melvin to win after seeing the Pre-judging pics.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 08:23:36 AM
This is such BS....this is an excuse why a competitor doesn't place well. Much if not all a Pros income is from shows....so what you're saying is you didn't care about the Prize money regardless of how much it is?

And to add to that, the majority of a pro's income is from guest posing, appearances, and magazine and supplement endorsements.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 21, 2010, 08:54:09 AM
Worst show ever.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Meso_z on February 21, 2010, 09:38:13 AM
Worst show ever.

hard to believe that this shitty, no lighting "show" took the place of the great "IRONMAN". :-\
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: lastrep on February 21, 2010, 09:40:50 AM
Toney will be 20% better at the Arnolds and is saving it up to peak then, and will probably place a couple places ahead of Mel and Hide. Back in the day guys like Flex could do a warm-up show looking significantly less than their best and still dominate. I think some of the top contenders these days think they can do the same and simply can't. They're ahead of the pack at their best but not by much and really should be focusing on coming in as good as possible at each show, which I know is hard but I think they'd fair better regardless. There is no one way ahead of anyone else these days

Too bad this wasn't a warm up for Toney. He clearly stated he was at his all time best with added muscle and better condition than the ever. So ouch, check your facts son.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 09:48:47 AM
Too bad this wasn't a warm up for Toney. He clearly stated he was at his all time best with added muscle and better condition than the ever. So ouch, check your facts son.

And was he?  :D  Let's just see what he looks like at the Arnolds and we'll reflect back on this conversation, kid.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 21, 2010, 10:10:02 AM
Worst show ever.

masters pro world 2006 was worse
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 21, 2010, 10:39:28 AM
masters pro world 2006 was worse
Is that the one Chick got awarded over Rusty?
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: bodybuilder1234 on February 21, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
how does a guy like Freeman who has superior muscle shape, structure, size/mass and height lose to a guy like Hide?
Makes no sense at all
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Mr Nobody on February 21, 2010, 10:47:08 AM
how does a guy like Freeman who has superior muscle shape, structure, size/mass and height lose to a guy like Hide?
Makes no sense at all
He got ripped off.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 10:48:34 AM
how does a guy like Freeman who has superior muscle shape, structure, size/mass and height lose to a guy like Hide?
Makes no sense at all

If you look at it pound for pound Hide does have some good mass, but it was his conditioning that obviously put him above Toney
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 11:08:58 AM
Very close show though

(http://www.flexonline.com/10contests/10phoenix/men/comparison/images/IMG_9759.jpg)

Melvin looked a little smaller than normal though
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Schmoe Buster on February 21, 2010, 11:27:57 AM
Is that the one Chick got awarded over Rusty?

yes
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: MattT on February 21, 2010, 03:55:21 PM
Hide is thicker in the delts and chest then Melvin which is not good!
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Kwon on February 21, 2010, 03:56:39 PM
Hide actually had a great physique this time.

Best he's ever been.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: EL Mariachi on February 21, 2010, 03:59:30 PM
how tall is melvin ''the dwarf'' anthony?  his head looks too big for his body, on top of that when he opens his mouth only garbage comes out.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: KevinP85 on February 21, 2010, 04:01:31 PM
how tall is melvin ''the dwarf'' anthony?  his head looks too big for his body, on top of that when he opens his mouth only garbage comes out.


5'7/5'8.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: delta9mda on February 21, 2010, 05:36:05 PM
And was he?  :D  Let's just see what he looks like at the Arnolds and we'll reflect back on this conversation, kid.
yes he will improve greatly in the next 2 weeks. people forget how conditioned he was at the asc last year. notice the hardnes and striations and condition Toney brought last year.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 05:43:49 PM
yes he will improve greatly in the next 2 weeks. people forget how conditioned he was at the asc last year. notice the hardnes and striations and condition Toney brought last year.

Yup. But I guess some people here don't believe these guys actually try to use shows like the Phoenix as a warm-up and peak for the big shows like the Arnolds and Olympia  ::)
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: delta9mda on February 21, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
not that Toney was bullshitting or anything, he probably was in his best largest condition. look at his cheek bones and lack of anything on his face. he can do it again, believe it.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 05:48:21 PM
not that Toney was bullshitting or anything, he probably was in his best largest condition. look at his cheek bones and lack of anything on his face. he can do it again, believe it.

Yes, and he knows he'll only get better as he dials it in for the Arnolds. He was definitely at his biggest while keeping in ok condition but you know he's gonna be even tighter for the Arnolds
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2010, 05:53:13 PM
Yup. But I guess some people here don't believe these guys actually try to use shows like the Phoenix as a warm-up and peak for the big shows like the Arnolds and Olympia  ::)

I'd say this would be true for the more higher-up bodybuilders. I highly doubt a newcomer is going to take any show lightly, even the Phoenix show. Would be good to differentiate.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 05:59:53 PM
I'd say this would be true for the more higher-up bodybuilders. I highly doubt a newcomer is going to take any show lightly, even the Phoenix show. Would be good to differentiate.

Yes, I agree. It's for the guys that know they have a good chance at cracking top 5. Melvin though went all out for the Phoenix and may not duplicate his form at the Arnolds and I don't think he'd be top 5 even if he did.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2010, 06:06:49 PM
Yes, I agree. It's for the guys that know they have a good chance at cracking top 5. Melvin though went all out for the Phoenix and may not duplicate his form at the Arnolds and I don't think he'd be top 5 even if he did.

IMO, he doesn't stand a chance in hell at making top 5 at the Arnold. Hell, he should have been at least 3rd or 4th at the Phoenix show.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: Flexb on February 21, 2010, 06:14:28 PM
IMO, he doesn't stand a chance in hell at making top 5 at the Arnold. Hell, he should have been at least 3rd or 4th at the Phoenix show.

I think his name carried him. I mean, if he was a new pro or not that well known he could have very well been out of the top 5 at the phoenix show. I've been around long enough to know when one of the popular guys comes in shape it seems to automatically gives them a shot at top spot whether they really deserve it or not.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: delta9mda on February 21, 2010, 06:27:46 PM
I think his name carried him. I mean, if he was a new pro or not that well known he could have very well been out of the top 5 at the phoenix show. I've been around long enough to know when one of the popular guys comes in shape it seems to automatically gives them a shot at top spot whether they really deserve it or not.
truth. Toney had ham and glute separation and calves and balance. his arms were/ are way bigger and ... well fuck it look at the pics.
Title: Re: Melvin 1st, Hide 2nd, Toney 3rd
Post by: musclecenter on February 24, 2010, 02:28:37 AM
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