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Stats:
165LBS (weighed 100lb when he started training)
Squat 600+lbs (undocumented)
Bench 300+lbs
Best 100m - 9.78s (unbeaten for 15yrs!)
“If you don’t take it, you don’t make it.”-Dr Mario Astaphan, (Ben Johnson's Doctor)
(http://www.isteroids.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ben-johnson-steroids.jpg)
Functional muscle and under appreciated hard worker and ATHLETE ...discuss!!!!!!!!!
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Finer n Greater as a female runner than this turd was as a male runner.
(http://asme.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/flo-jo1.jpg)
RIP
he had better turn over but she covered more ground with each stride.
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That run was wind aided and probably should not have counted, but extremely IMPRESSIVE nonetheless!
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Finer n Greater as a female runner than this turd was as a male runner.
(http://asme.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/flo-jo1.jpg)
RIP
he had better turn over but she covered more ground with each stride.
Holy shit that was ridiculous.
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Stats:
165LBS (weighed 100lb when he started training)
Squat 600+lbs (undocumented)
Bench 300+lbs
Best 100m - 9.78s (unbeaten for 15yrs!)
“If you don’t take it, you don’t make it.”-Dr Mario Astaphan, (Ben Johnson's Doctor)
(http://www.isteroids.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ben-johnson-steroids.jpg)
Functional muscle and under appreciated hard worker and ATHLETE ...discuss!!!!!!!!!
Regardless of what he took, he's still one of the most talented sprinters whoever lived.
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But now we have...
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Oops...I meant this one. ;D
Hitler got so mad.
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Regardless of what he took, he's still one of the most talented sprinters whoever lived.
best START in history
Crusher or Dirty Carls dreams...
(http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mariners/BenJohnson.jpg)
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The olympics is like a fucking zoo sideshow these days.
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Oops...I meant this one. ;D
haha at "Bloodcart Jamaican's"
....TEAM JAMAICAN SPRINTER GENETICS FOREVER!
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The olympics is like a fucking zoo sideshow these days.
boo-hoo. poor a ryans can't hang. :(
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Some white (Greek) guy won the 200 in 200...4, I think. He later had his medal rescinded for use of special supps, though.
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Some white (Greek) guy won the 200 in 200...4, I think. He later had his medal rescinded for use of special supps, though.
it was 2000.... 8)
(http://nbcsportsmedia3.msnbc.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040825/040825_kenteris_hmed.h2.jpg)
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But now we have...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=321058.0;attach=360843;image)
that's not a soap star on globo.
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Some white (Greek) guy won the 200 in 200...4, I think. He later had his medal rescinded for use of special supps, though.
He won, but what was funny, was the heat before, had a better time than his 200 mdeal winning sprint.
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Finer n Greater as a female runner than this turd was as a male runner.
(http://asme.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/flo-jo1.jpg)
RIP
he had better turn over but she covered more ground with each stride.
Fuck what a great ass.
Died at 38 a lot of women who use gear seem to die before 40? Seems to happen
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Oops...I meant this one. ;D
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Hitler got so mad.
That was hilarious!!! :D 'I just wanted to smoke a fat ass joint and chill' lol
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Some funny things i read about Johnson on Wiki
According to a 1998 article in Outside magazine, Johnson spent much of the latter part of the 1990s living downstairs in the house he shared with his mother Gloria. He spent his leisure time reading, watching movies and Roadrunner cartoons, and taking his mother to church. He lived in a spacious home in Newmarket, Ontario's Stonehaven neighborhood. He claims to have lost his Ferrari when he used it as collateral for a loan from an acquaintance in order to make a house payment.[10] Gloria died of cancer in 2004 and Johnson lived with his sister afterwards.[11]
In March 2006, television spots featuring Johnson advertising an energy drink, "Cheetah Power Surge", started to receive some airtime. Some pundits questioned whether Johnson was an appropriate spokesperson for an all natural energy drink considering his history of steroid use.[15][16] One ad is a mock interview between Johnson and Frank D'Angelo, the president and chief executive of D'Angelo Brands, which makes the drink, in which he asks Johnson: "Ben, when you run, do you Cheetah?". "Absolutely," says Johnson. "I Cheetah all the time."[17] The other commercial includes Johnson and a cheetah, the world's fastest land animal, and encourages viewers to "go ahead and Cheetah."
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(http://browningmgs.com/Images_1919A4/Movies/WildBunch/01_Ben&Warren.jpg)
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lol @ the Jamaicans all now at the top of the sprinting world.. roiding up in Jamaica - i bet most dont even get tested over there
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lol @ the Jamaicans all now at the top of the sprinting world.. roiding up in Jamaica - i bet most dont even get tested over there
x2
It's only a matter of time before Bolt tests positive for something.
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lol @ the Jamaicans all now at the top of the sprinting world.. roiding up in Jamaica - i bet most dont even get tested over there
exactly.
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But now we have...
Francis says the man who powered down the track in Seoul to set the world record 21 years ago -- the same sprinter, presumably, who carried traces of Stanozolol and its metabolites in his urine -- could run in the 9.6s on the harder, faster surfaces of recent years.
"No way in hell this guy [Bolt] would beat me," Johnson says, laughing out loud. "No way. You'll never see another Ben Johnson."
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(http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0813/oly_e_montgomerymilosvictor_576.jpg)
Part of the Project World Record team in 2000: Milos Sarcev, Tim Montgomery and Victor Conte.
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That was hilarious!!! :D 'I just wanted to smoke a fat ass joint and chill' lol
right..i laughed my ass off
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exactly.
And Lewis, as it happens, was among the first to cast doubts about Bolt's performance in Beijing and the credibility of Jamaica's drug testing, telling Sports Illustrated's Web site shortly after the 2008 Olympics: "I'm still working with the fact that he dropped from 10-flat to 9.6 in one year. … If you don't question that in a sport that has the reputation it has right now, you're a fool."
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BEN JOHNSON SQUATS 5 PLATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
see this feat at about 3min in.
:D
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BEN JOHNSON SQUATS 5 PLATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
see this feat at about 3min in.
:D
You're either ben johnson or creepy....
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Regardless of what he took, he's still one of the most talented sprinters whoever lived.
No question about that. If you area fan of Ben, I advise you read the story on his infamous drug bust in 1988 Olympics.
It is a wonderful behind the scenes look at the politics of drug testing.
Title : " Speed Trap" author: coach Charlie Francis
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BEN JOHNSON SQUATS 5 PLATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
see this feat at about 3min in.
:D
gota love the schmoe at 3;30
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gota love the schmoe at 3;30
Schmoe AKA Agent ::)
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No question about that. If you area fan of Ben, I advise you read the story on his infamous drug bust in 1988 Olympics.
It is a wonderful behind the scenes look at the politics of drug testing.
Title : " Speed Trap" author: coach Charlie Francis
Tell us about some of the more interesting parts Howard. Please.
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Can`t believe he only weighted 165-he kooked hughe when I watched him runing in 1988 :-\
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They never stood a chance...
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Finer n Greater as a female runner than this turd was as a male runner.
(http://asme.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/flo-jo1.jpg)
RIP
he had better turn over but she covered more ground with each stride.
it's strange she doesn't look like a woman on steroids.
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Schmoe AKA Agent ::)
hi ben johnson. welcome to getbig.
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(http://i8.tinypic.com/81poads.jpg)
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(http://browningmgs.com/Images_1919A4/Movies/WildBunch/01_Ben&Warren.jpg)
Nicely played, Tim. My favourite Western, too. :)
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wouldn't they be even faster if they removed the stupid bling?
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hi ben johnson. welcome to getbig.
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fastest man ever right there
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Charlie Francis dies at 61; disgraced former sprint coach
He had trained Ben Johnson when the Canadian sprinter became the first athlete to be stripped of an Olympic gold medal for using banned drugs.
Michael Posner
Globe and Mail Update Published on Wednesday, May. 12, 2010 10:57PM EDT Last updated on Thursday, May. 13, 2010 4:00AM EDT
Charles Francis, the Canadian track and field coach whose career was caught up in the 1988 Ben Johnson Seoul Olympics drug scandal, died shortly after noon on Wednesday in Toronto, from complications of lymphoma.
Francis, 61, died at Sunnybrook Hospital surrounded by his immediate family and a circle of more than a dozen friends and athletes he had trained, including Ben Johnson.
Johnson, perhaps Francis’ most famous athlete, became the first Olympian to be stripped of a gold medal after testing positive for the steroid stanozolol, after winning the 100-metre race at Seoul, with a time 9.79 seconds.
Testifying before the 1989 Dubin Inquiry formed to investigate the doping scandal, Francis acknowledged responsibility for introducing Johnson to performance enhancing drugs. For that, Francis was banned by Athletics Canada from coaching in this country.
The drugs were actually administered by St. Kitts sports doctor Jaime Astaphan. His medical licence was suspended for 18 months in Ontario, and he was subsequently convicted and jailed in the United States for conspiracy to trade steroids and cocaine. Astaphan died in 2006.
Six of the eight Seoul 100-metre finalists were eventually tainted by drug infractions. But of all the coaches of the scores of athletes subsequently disqualified after testing positive for drug use, Francis is the only one who was ever suspended.
His core message – both before Mr. Justice Charles Dubin, in two subsequent books, and in various public statements through the years – was about the pervasive societal hypocrisy that, on the one hand, constantly celebrates and promotes higher achievements in sport and, on the other, penalizes anyone caught using drugs to improve their results.
The two decades since Seoul have repeatedly confirmed Francis’ conviction that drug use in virtually every sport requiring speed, power or endurance was and remains rampant, and that few new records would be set without aid of their stimulus.
“Charlie always told like it was,” said Toronto investment manager Brendan Caldwell, among those gathered around Francis when he died. “He was the one person prepared to tell the truth about what was happening, to his own professional detriment. But there’s a veil of silence, a sense of denial, that surrounds what is self-evident.”
Francis, said Caldwell, who used him as a personal trainer, “was a mentor, a father figure, a guide and a help. He could take anyone at any level and take them to a higher level. Not with drugs, but just based on his wisdom and insight into the human body, right down to the cellular level.”
Most of those gathered in Francis hospital room, Caldwell noted, were athletes he had worked with. “They were there because they loved him dearly. In my opinion, he was the greatest track coach in the world.”
Not everyone shared this view, of course. In an interview with The Globe and Mail two years ago, Canadian track coach Andy Higgins said that Johnson, only 15 when Francis started to coach him. had been “used by a very smart man [Francis] for his own ego purposes, and taken advantage of. That should never have happened.”
Arguing that everyone was doing it and that top athletes had to use drugs to keep the playing field level missed the entire point, said Higgins, “which was ... that it was cheating.”
Born and raised in Toronto, Francis had himself been an Olympian runner, competing for Canadian at the 1972 Olympics in Munich and reaching the second round, with times of 10.51 and 10.68. He was three times Canada’s 100 metres sprint champion – in 1970, 1971, and 1973. He ran his own personal best – 10.1 – at the Pan Am trials in Vancouver in 1971.
After retiring from competition, Francis started coaching and was working at Scarborough Optimists track and field club when the young Ben Johnson turned up. Word of his gifts in training athletes spread, and he later coached several other top names in Canadian track, including sprinters Angella Issajenko, Mark McKoy and Desai Williams.
In the years following his ban, Francis coached athletes in various sports, including Olympic medalist American sprinters Tim Montgomery and Marion Jones. Both subsequently confessed to using performance enhancing drugs and were stripped of medals.
Francis also wrote two books on sprinting Speed Trap and Training for Speed – and established a popular Internet sprint training forum.
He is survived by his wife, Angie, and son James.
(http://beta.images.theglobeandmail.com/archive/00641/francis13ob2_jpg_641402artw.jpg)
Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson and coach Charlie Francis (right) are shown at York University during training in this 1988.
THE CANADIAN PRESS
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/ben-johnsons-coach-participated-in-olympic-steroid-scandal/article1567061 (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/ben-johnsons-coach-participated-in-olympic-steroid-scandal/article1567061)/
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just got word. the book is out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:D http://www.benjohnsonenterprises.com/ (http://www.benjohnsonenterprises.com/)
(http://www.benjohnsonenterprises.com/images/ban_1.jpg)
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(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2010/10/5/1286296637125/Ben-Johnson-006.jpg)
Ben Johnson claims he was set up during the Seoul Olympics and alleges his drink was spiked. Photograph: Finn O'Hara for the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/oct/05/ben-johnson-drugs-olympics (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/oct/05/ben-johnson-drugs-olympics)
Ben Johnson: 'My revelations will shock the sporting world'
The shamed former sprinter speaks of the loneliness, rehabilitation and the events leading to his ban
Twenty-nine years ago, in late September 1981, the most infamous story of corruption in world sport began. Ben Johnson, a shy and stuttering 19-year-old Jamaican sprinter who was still battling to adapt to a strange new life in Canada, listened in puzzlement to the coach he revered. He had weighed only 98 pounds when he first met Charlie Francis; but Johnson had been transformed into a sprinting powerhouse by his coach's rigorous training regime.
Francis's boundless ambition, however, encouraged him to introduce a subject that changed Johnson's life forever. The older man spoke slowly and carefully as he steered his athlete down a path that, eventually, would end in shame. In 1988 Johnson became a disgraced Olympic 100m champion who is still branded the most notorious cheat in sporting history.
Now, early on an autumnal Sunday morning in late 2010, Johnson says softly that it is time to examine the story again. He will publish his autobiography, Seoul to Soul, next month and, in the leafy surrounds of Richmond Hill, on the outskirts of Toronto, the 48-year-old speaks without the stammer that once scarred him. He describes how Francis, who had been like a second father to him, sold the idea of doping with murky logic.
"Charlie said over a few conversations," Johnson remembers, "that you only cheat if you're the only one doing it. This means if the other guys are doing it, and you start doing the same thing, it's not cheating. It took me a while to follow his advice. I took it home and I didn't share it with my mother."
Johnson, citing his own emotional immaturity and intense vulnerability, makes it sound as if Francis was redefining the truth of cheating to a child. "I said to myself, 'why should I do this clean when everybody else is cheating? That's unfair'. I chewed it over in my mind for about three weeks and then I said, 'Charlie, I'm OK with it. Let's go.'"
Seven years later, and after a systematic doping programme, Johnson smashed the world record in 9.79 seconds as he won the 100m final at the Seoul Olympics. He was soon stripped of his gold medal and sent home to Toronto in near hysterical humiliation after a drugs test revealed the presence of an anabolic steroid, Stanozolol, in his system.
A further five sprinters in that 100m final, now described as the most corrupt race ever run, have since been tarnished by varying doping controversies. But Johnson remains the symbolic figurehead of all that went rotten in sport. The guilt left him ostracised and depressed.
Johnson is now seeking some kind of redemption. "A lot of people will criticise me because they don't want the truth to come out. They've buried me so deep it took me 22 years to get out of the hole. But I'm finally coming out of this hole, by the grace of God, and it's time to tell my story."
The book has yet to be seen by anyone outside his circle at a small independent publisher; but Johnson believes it will shock the sporting world. Beyond his admission of doping Johnson suggests his drink in Seoul was spiked with a drug he had always avoided.
"I stopped taking steroids six weeks before the Games. I wouldn't be that dumb to take anything so close to an Olympic final. And the amount of steroids found in my system could have killed a normal man. I tested positive for Stanozolol but I was using other steroids."
A confessed doper becoming the victim of a drug smear is a complicated story – which Johnson says was suddenly simplified when the person who supposedly tampered with his drink, someone he calls "The Mystery Man", approached him. "He made contact and I met him. My drink was spiked. I can't go into too much detail here – but it helped me hear what happened. I have a witness who was with me and he revealed everything. He explained how it happened, and what he did, and it all made sense. The world will be shocked by these revelations but, at the same time, lots of people have said there was some sort of problem in 1988 and I was set up. It was a mystery for 22 years but the mystery will soon be over."
Why would Johnson have been set up? "The reason why is sponsors. That's the main reason. I don't want to say too much here but it's all in the book."
The serious implication is that corporate forces paid the "Mystery Man" to frame Johnson because they did not want him to win Olympic gold. Without seeing his evidence, scrutiny of Johnson's charge will have to wait. But the trauma can still be seen in his face and heard in his voice.
"When they got me and I tested positive, I called my mother. I said, 'Don't worry, mom. No one died. It's going to be a tough journey but I will survive it.' But it was much tougher than I ever expected. I wouldn't expect no other human being to go through what I did – especially the first year."
Johnson revered his mother and so he does not hesitate when asked what she would have said had he told her about Francis urging him to cheat. "She would have said 'no'. And I would have listened to her. But when she heard what happened she said, 'Son, it's going to be very difficult. You will lose everything you worked for but, finally, there will be a light at the end of the tunnel.' She said, 'Ben, I won't be alive to see this day but it will come.'"
The sprinter was in a dark depression when, three years ago, he was introduced to Bryan Farnum, now his closest adviser and friend.
"I took a call from another friend who knew Bryan and he said, 'This person can help you.' He was right. My depression healed, as did my anxiety. But I actually had depression at 17. I had to take care of my niece, nephew and mother. I took on that responsibility as a young boy. It's been painful looking back but Bryan said I must forgive myself before I forgive others. It is now the biggest fight of my life – to tell the truth about myself and what really happened."
Johnson has been a perennial outsider since, aged 14, he left Jamaica with his mother. His stutter and accent isolated him in Canada. "It was very tough because my language wasn't good. In Jamaica we speak patois so people here couldn't understand me. I didn't come across very well."
Did loneliness fuel his desire to succeed as a sprinter? "Yes. I was not accepted properly by my classmates. They mimicked me. But I knew God had given me a talent and this was the life I needed to live. I was driven by many things – and Charlie Francis played the part of a father figure. I looked up to Charlie for guidance and it's just too bad he left us early because he was a brilliant man when it came to sprinting."
Johnson's refusal to blame Francis for his downfall is so steadfast that earlier this year he acted as a pallbearer at his coach's funeral. "Charlie did a lot for me. No one can ever replace him."
Yet Johnson also says: "I put a lot of trust in lots of people all my life. My mom said, 'Don't trust nobody.' But I did. That's always my weakness."
Carl Lewis, however, has not been trusted or liked by Johnson for decades. "He never really recognised the great talent I have. He wanted all the glory and he didn't want anyone to share the title of the world's fastest man. When he won four gold medals at the 1984 Olympics I was happy for him. I had no animosity to Carl Lewis. But when my time came to shine it was a big problem for him. He couldn't accept it."
Lewis's reputation has suffered, and he has also been hounded by doping allegations. "He's a little bit hostile now and a little bit in remorse," Johnson says. "But we will see how things play out after the book is published."
The bitterness between them runs deep and Johnson admits he still watches races where he beat Lewis – particularly the 1988 Olympic final. "Sometimes I watch it or it's shown on television again. I think, 'Wow, I was really, really fast then!'"
Does it give him pleasure, despite his public downfall? "Yes, of course."
Johnson argues that, rather than making him run faster, steroids worked primarily as a placebo. But surely they helped him train harder and recover quicker? "I think it's more a psychological boost. It doesn't make you faster. If an athlete just uses what is naturally inside them I believe they can achieve their goals."
He has intimated before that 40% of professional athletes could be involved in doping today. "Well," he says, "I've just seen an old friend who is an agent on the circuit. He said, 'Ben, you can't even imagine what's going on out there these days.' I said, 'I know what's happening.' He said, 'Ben, it's a joke. It's nonsense.' I don't want to go into too many details but nothing has changed."
Usain Bolt, however, is spared any insinuations. "I've not got any bad thing to say about Bolt. I'm happy for him. If I was born 22 years later it would've been great to race him. And I don't think he would have beaten me."
Johnson laughs, suggesting he could have run faster than Bolt's 9.58 if he had raced on modern tracks – and free of steroid abuse. He is also convinced he will soon feel cleansed. "It's going to be a new life for me. When I was racing it was like I was blindfolded. But I can see now. I wouldn't have gone that way if I could see what I see now. I would have taken another road."
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Brilliantly talented runner. Five cent head.
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i swear if you asked me when i was a kid, i bet i could've named 10-15 sprinters. male or female.
shit , i can name bolt, tyson gay and no chicks right now.
the sport's gone the way of bodybuilding it seems like. which is sad, because watching great sprinters can be pretty awesome.
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Lewis failed 7 drug tests in his career but because he was American it was swept under the rug.
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:D
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boo-hoo. poor a ryans can't hang. :(
Not all black people can run faster than a ryans....just look at the prison population.
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Stats:
165LBS (weighed 100lb when he started training)
Squat 600+lbs (undocumented)
Bench 300+lbs
Best 100m - 9.78s (unbeaten for 15yrs!)
“If you don’t take it, you don’t make it.”-Dr Mario Astaphan, (Ben Johnson's Doctor)
(http://www.isteroids.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/ben-johnson-steroids.jpg)
Functional muscle and under appreciated hard worker and ATHLETE ...discuss!!!!!!!!!
9.79 actually :)
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Nicely played, Tim. My favourite Western, too. :)
Yes, that post deserves applause. RIP Warren Oates, too.
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Ben Johnson 1988 -
' I didn't take no stereo!!!!!!!'
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Scotland's Allan Wells thrashed Johnston many times in the 80's
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It doesn't make a difference who was on what, the most athletic and talented (yes talented) sprinter will win. Bolt, Johnson, etc would have won even if the entire field was on the same gear, same doses.
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It doesn't make a difference who was on what, the most athletic and talented (yes talented) sprinter will win. Bolt, Johnson, etc would have won even if the entire field was on the same gear, same doses.
they were.
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My point exactly.
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:D
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It doesn't make a difference who was on what, the most athletic and talented (yes talented) sprinter will win. Bolt, Johnson, etc would have won even if the entire field was on the same gear, same doses.
Absolutely! Nor can steriods make you hit a baseball, or throw one 95 miles an hour!