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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: MoralMan on February 27, 2010, 05:49:32 AM
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Who was better him or Lenny McLean?
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interesting if he n tyson got in a street fight in the day? i'm talking when tyson left mitch green 75 ins 260 or so unconscious in parking lot and jacked 3 guys at a hotel elevator. accumulation puncher vs a quick handed one shot guy.
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Both Shaw and Mclean were strong, rugged guys, but they couldn't make it in boxing, if i remember rightly Lenny got knocked out twice in the first round against a journeyman pro.
Very aggressive guys at that level, both used to take a ton of cocaine before fights which added to that aggression. Shaw was a smaller guy and by the time of their fight Lenny had juiced up to about twenty stone, he got caught rushing in and ate about fifty punches.
Both were glorified brawlers with below average boxing and zero grappling experience, they wouldn't make any impact.
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Brawling is one thing
Boxing ... a whole diff ballgame
Only toughguy wannabees could be ennamored with the likes of McLean et Co.
Tyson is a whole diff level
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Both Shaw and Mclean were strong, rugged guys, but they couldn't make it in boxing, if i remember rightly Lenny got knocked out twice in the first round against a journeyman pro.
Very aggressive guys at that level, both used to take a ton of cocaine before fights which added to that aggression. Shaw was a smaller guy and by the time of their fight Lenny had juiced up to about twenty stone, he got caught rushing in and ate about fifty punches.
Both were glorified brawlers with below average boxing and zero grappling experience, they wouldn't make any impact.
So McLean won their fight, is he considered a greater unlicensed boxer generally?
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Tyson I would say could brawl as well as he could box.
I WILL get flamed for this but I know a few very good boxers (granted they are small and light) who I reckon I would maul in a streetfight.
Boxing is a skill and relient on rules and control. Brawling is not.
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Brawling is one thing
Boxing ... a whole diff ballgame
Only toughguy wannabees could be ennamored with the likes of McLean et Co.
Tyson is a whole diff level
It really hurts to say this, but I agree with Sev.
I've never understood the hero worship of people that are little more than thugs and bullies.
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I would say so. Big size difference between the two though, Both were bang on the gear but Lenny had a bigger frame to fill out. Given the fact that their styles were very similar and Roy didn't really have the know how to get inside, Lenny was at an advantage.
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Tyson I would say could brawl as well as he could box.
I WILL get flamed for this but I know a few very good boxers (granted they are small and light) who I reckon I would maul in a streetfight.
Boxing is a skill and relient on rules and control. Brawling is not.
Differentiate the differences. Brawling is what fighters do when they haven't got the skill to box.
Mclean or Shaw would last about ten seconds against Tyson. Not because he can brawl but for the fact that he is trained to hit hard, fast and accurately and your typical street brawler has no head movement, timing, sense of distance etc.
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lenny would have killed almost everyone in a street fight, Ofc not tyson but tyson is what, One man our of 6 billion? =)
lol, Anyway, lenny was a badass thats for sure, and he looked ALOT faster then roy in that video if we compare shadow" boxing at an older age lol.
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Lenny = Kimbo
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Boxing is using boxing rules and ettiquette.
Brawling is using whatever you can to do to win.
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Let me, see a guy with one style vs a guy with more than one style.
Do the math.
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Boxing is using boxing rules and ettiquette.
Brawling is using whatever you can to do to win.
You can't do a lot while you are unconcious.
Why would you have any more experience fighting dirty than a professional? Or are you suggesting being skilled and experienced is a dissadvantage.
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I WILL get flamed for this but I know a few very good boxers (granted they are small and light) who I reckon I would maul in a streetfight.
I agree but if you don't finish these guys in less than 3 minutes you'll start gassing and the boxer would maul you .
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Let me, see a guy with one style vs a guy with more than one style.
Do the math.
It's not even one style. These aren't elite boxers/kickboxers. They are street brawlers who made their names beating drunks up outside nightclubs.
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I agree but if you don't finish these guys in less than 3 minutes you'll start gassing and the boxer would maul you .
3 min lol,
Try first 15-30 sec then your average big guy is GASSED
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I agree but if you don't finish these guys in less than 3 minutes you'll start gassing and the boxer would maul you .
Unless those guys are strawweights with zero power, he is most likely not going to get close to one minute.
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It's not even one style. These aren't elite boxers/kickboxers. They are street brawlers who made their names beating drunks up outside nightclubs.
I'm sorry, are you saying that a brawler is more skilled than a pro MMA fighter?
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Let me, see a guy with one style vs a guy with more than one style.
Do the math.
Damn, look at Arvloski, he is out cold!
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Tyson I would say could brawl as well as he could box.
I WILL get flamed for this but I know a few very good boxers (granted they are small and light) who I reckon I would maul in a streetfight.
Boxing is a skill and relient on rules and control. Brawling is not.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHH AHAHAHAHAHA
As I said before, you are both dumb AND delusional. Good grief ! maybe you should challenge those SMALL boxers and tape a the street fights w/ them and prove your point.
Maybe one day someone will take you seriously and lay your ass out as I do not believe you talk like this in real life. Go you your local boxing club and challenge a featherweight to a brawl outside. I DARE you! LOL
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I'm sorry, are you saying that a brawler is more skilled than a pro MMA fighter?
Quite the opposite.
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You can't do a lot while you are unconcious.
Why would you have any more experience fighting dirty than a professional? Or are you suggesting being skilled and experienced is a dissadvantage.
I think you are missing my point.
I was referring to guys under 65kg. Obviously my size and strength becomes almost totally negligible as I move towards bigger skilled boxers. A guy I know tore a former all Ireland boxing champ to pieces. The guy was a big enough guy 5'11 230lbs but drunk. the small boxer/bouncer came out in a boxing stance dancing around. My mate Aaron just ran into him threw him about then knocked him out.
Unless you have KO power a big athletic strong due will always have a reasonable chance against smaller guys - even with boxing experience.
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kimbo slice who kick his ass ;D
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
As I said before, you are both dumb AND delusional. Good grief ! maybe you should challenge those SMALL boxers and tape a the street fights w/ them and prove your point.
Maybe one day someone will take you seriously and lay your ass out as I do not believe you talk like this in real life. Go you your local boxing club and challenge a featherweight to a brawl outside. I DARE you! LOL
Cool story bro!
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
As I said before, you are both dumb AND delusional. Good grief ! maybe you should challenge those SMALL boxers and tape a the street fights w/ them and prove your point.
Maybe one day someone will take you seriously and lay your ass out as I do not believe you talk like this in real life. Go you your local boxing club and challenge a featherweight to a brawl outside. I DARE you! LOL
you prostitute buying moron romanian. a friend of mine husband was one match from representing one of the olympic teams in the states in boxing...so that makes him as skilled as you get before pros but skilled none the less...but he got the s##t beat out of him in a street fight w/normal hood rat of equal size and ended up in an ER. boxing ring skills dont translate into a street fight. tyson is another animal, before and during his boxing career his skills translated well in both. bet sugar leonard is a terrible street fighter too.
i'd be more afraid of Gracie's boys cause they are equally as dangerous on the ground and most of their moves are designed to cut blood off to your brain. also in general they come from "fight for your life" environments. that's frightening. probably not to you...cause there is only fluid there anyway.
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I am also talking about amateur boxers. Amateur 135lb guys - Not Pacman.
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I am also talking about amateur boxers. Amateur 135lb guys - Not Pacman.
one should also keep in mind not ALL boxers are comfortable with throwing punches in the street either, me and and 2 other friend got in a brawl with 3 other dudes once, and one of my friend used to compete in boxing, and he just frooze and didn't do SHIT. Luckily we didn't need him, but it proves a point =)
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one should also keep in mind not ALL boxers are comfortable with throwing punches in the street either, me and and 2 other friend got in a brawl with 3 other dudes once, and one of my friend used to compete in boxing, and he just frooze and didn't do SHIT. Luckily we didn't need him, but it proves a point =)
Nice!
You handled that shit on your own. :)
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The same guy who my mate KO'd was around 5'6 and around 135lbs. He won the All Ireland Championship but fights most weekends and regulaly gets beat. Not all the time but a fair amount of the time.
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more dangerous guy in this thread for a boxer or a guy who think he got game in a parking lot.
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2nd most...
and the rest of their ghetto buddies.
except to the rule is tyson.
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Nice!
You handled that shit on your own. :)
there were 3 and my cousin knocked out 2 of them before I even had time to react lol.
He has also trained boxing and loves streetfights. And doesn't freeze like my other friend who claims hes the biggest badass of all, even though iove seen it happen TWICE. He helped me once though , the most recent brawl this summer when I goy jumped by 3 or 4 guys and really really needed help haha, Havent told that story on gb though because im sick of having to defend myself. I knocked out their buddy with one punch and thats why I got jumped.
Never punch a dude at a party where you almost know no one and he knows everyone, He also had it coming though. I only ended upo with a shitload of bumps on the head which is more then ok considiring how many punches I got lol.
Anyway I threw a guy my size over a few chairs after my cousin elbowed him right in the face lol, And kicked the BIG fatty which started it all once after he was knocked down, Pussy move, but he had it coming lol.
Thje big fat guy that started it all littarly fell like a damn TREE lol.
good old drinki'n times ;D
now go ahead and claim bs on everything Again.
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I am also talking about amateur boxers. Amateur 135lb guys - Not Pacman.
Amateurs are a different animal, they don't even try to hurt each other in am's.
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HAHAHHAHA
Only on getbig !
Ursus can MAUL boxers. Divcom "knows" a guy who "almost" made the US squad but ended up in ER after a street fight. Swede gets into a brawl and thank god handled 2-3 cause their boxin' buddy was running away lol
THIS is like people off the street who never played tennis except ocassionally would claim they would challenge me to an impromptu tennis match and I would loose if they quick serve or some shit lol
This discussion is beyond hillarious or ridiculous :D
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Ursus can MAUL boxers. Divcom "knows" a guy who "almost" made the US squad but ended up in ER after a street fight. Swede gets into a brawl and thank god handled 2-3 cause their boxin' buddy was running away lol
I handled?
re-read stupid.
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I handled?
re-read stupid.
whatever
my point was that anyone claiming that a decent boxer would get mauled in a street fight needs a reality check
by the way : joining the local gym club and taking boxing classes for 3 months does not qualify as boxing ::)
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whatever
my point was that anyone claiming that a decent boxer would get mauled in a street fight needs a reality check
by the way : joining the local gym club and taking boxing classes for 3 months does not qualify as boxing ::)
No its not "whatever" when I say something and then you claim I said something else, its fucking annoying =)
and you're right about the other thing.
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No its not "whatever" when I say something and then you claim I said something else, its fucking annoying =)
and you're right about the other thing.
Hey Swede, you are a tit guy right?
Here is your new avatar.
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3 min lol,
Try first 15-30 sec then your average big guy is GASSED
I lasted suprisingly long before I got fucked up by my poor cardio yesterday in my fight
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I agree but if you don't finish these guys in less than 3 minutes you'll start gassing and the boxer would maul you .
lol, a skilled box will dance around you and pepper you with jabs. A normal joe couldn't take too many accurate jabs....
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Hey Swede, you are a tit guy right?
Here is your new avatar.
(http://www3.pic-upload.de/21.02.10/i9e44tpe6pbp.gif)
Im more of an ass guy really, But huge titties on short girls though mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Hey Swede, you are a tit guy right?
Here is your new avatar.
(http://www3.pic-upload.de/21.02.10/i9e44tpe6pbp.gif)
She have a name?
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I lasted suprisingly long before I got fucked up by my poor cardio yesterday in my fight
Well, In a boxing match you can relax a bit, in a street fights it sems to be FULL FORCE until someone get ko'ed or gives up etc, So not really valid comparision imo =)
One round in boxing = 20 sec of grappling ;D
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She have a name?
Of course she does. problem is I don't have her name. 8)
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speaking of titties
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Of course she does. problem is I don't have her name. 8)
This is a sad day indeed... :'( :'( :'(
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HAHAHHAHA
Only on getbig !
Ursus can MAUL boxers. Divcom "knows" a guy who "almost" made the US squad but ended up in ER after a street fight. Swede gets into a brawl and thank god handled 2-3 cause their boxin' buddy was running away lol
THIS is like people off the street who never played tennis except ocassionally would claim they would challenge me to an impromptu tennis match and I would loose if they quick serve or some shit lol
This discussion is beyond hillarious or ridiculous :D
how much of that hooker money you got to bet on this one...partner? i want usd not that worthless currency of yours.
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let's have your pic with a pic of paper with his name ..easy to verify ;)
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Well, In a boxing match you can relax a bit, in a street fights it sems to be FULL FORCE until someone get ko'ed or gives up etc, So not really valid comparision imo =)
One round in boxing = 20 sec of grappling ;D
Totally untrue,you look at street fights,most of the time fellas are fucked after throwing one punch
Relaxing in a boxing match doesnt work I found out,your mind is always active
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Totally untrue,you look at street fights,most of the time fellas are fucked after throwing one punch
Relaxing in a boxing match doesnt work I found out,your mind is always active
good boxers can relax in a fight =)
With relaxing I dont mean dropping your hands, but either clinching or just using footwork to get a little breather.
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Totally untrue,you look at street fights,most of the time fellas are fucked after throwing one punch
Relaxing in a boxing match doesnt work I found out,your mind is always active
agreed ... a match is harder
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good boxers can relax in a fight =)
With relaxing I dont mean trying to fall asleep in the ring..
Me=Not good boxer though
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Me=Not good boxer though
thats why you cant say relaxing doesn't work ;D
No one is relaxed in their first fight though, Take fedors fights for example, not a boxer but you get my point, Always Super relaxed, but STILL superr alert.
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thats why you cant say relaxing doesn't work ;D
No one is relaxed in their first fight though, Take fedors fights for example, not a boxer but you get my point, Always Super relaxed, but STILL superr alert.
So you can say relaxing in a boxing match works yes?
Because you are a good boxer?
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thats why you cant say relaxing doesn't work ;D
No one is relaxed in their first fight though, Take fedors fights for example, not a boxer but you get my point, Always Super relaxed, but STILL superr alert.
He isn't relaxed in a sense that he is not expanding energy, he is relaxed in a i don't give a fuck sense. ;)
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Valane and Swede seem the type of dudes who never took a decent punch in their lives
gayer than discussing fighting via an internet message board
:D
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So you can say relaxing in a boxing match works yes?
Because you are a good boxer?
It takes a lot more balls to get in the ring with a pro boxer than play a game of tennis out on the grass
good on ya
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Valane and Swede seem the type of dudes who never took a decent punch in their lives
gayer than discussing fighting via an internet message board
:D
Ive been hit hard, whats your point? =)
and why does it seem like i havent? what have I typed that isn't the truth? =)
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Valane and Swede seem the type of dudes who never took a decent punch in their lives
gayer than discussing fighting via an internet message board
:D
Says the bald old man gypsy. Beating your mother up doesn't count.
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Says the bald old man gypsy. Beating your mother up doesn't count.
post a clip of you fighting or knitting "tough guy" lol
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post a clip of you fighting or knitting "tough guy" lol
I don't normally have a camera crew following me around srangely enough.
I also don't remember saying i was tough in any event.
I was actually stating the skill level of pro fighters, as it's something that i have been involved in the last few years. Why am i not surprised at your inability to comprehend basic english.
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post a clip of you fighting or knitting "tough guy" lol
wtf are you still doing on this site if you were suppose to meet the hooker for beer several hrs ago but those hrs have passed?
dude...you can lie.
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wtf are you still doing on this site if you were suppose to meet the hooker for beer several hrs ago but those hrs have passed?
dude...you can lie.
I am still meeting her ( 7:30 pm here) and you are still dodging the issue
you cannot queer your way outta this you know ;)
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I am still meeting her ( 7:30 pm here) and you are still dodging the issue
you cannot queer your way outta this you know ;)
It's only rape if she was born a woman.
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It's only rape if she was born a woman.
translation
I don't nail shit so I assume everyone does the same
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I am still meeting her ( 7:30 pm here) and you are still dodging the issue
you cannot queer your way outta this you know ;)
what issue? wtf you wrote about me...you dirty romanian.
me n mc thiago think this one fine b###h. keep the eyes up at :49 (no homo)
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translation
I don't nail shit so I assume everyone does the same
Your potential victims have what, a grandad complex?
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Your potential victims have what, a grandad complex?
weakest comeback ever
reported
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Valane and Swede seem the type of dudes who never took a decent punch in their lives
gayer than discussing fighting via an internet message board
:D
Swede would crush you within 20 seconds. But we'll never get to see it because you'd run away like you did with Okami.
Once again, Sev talking about something he knows absolutely nothing about. Sev talking about fighting is like him talking about bodybuilding -- clueless. Incredible what a delusional fuck tard this tool is.
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Valane and Swede seem the type of dudes who never took a decent punch in their lives
gayer than discussing fighting via an internet message board
:D
Coming from the pussy who posted a challenge on the board and chickened out to Okami. No pride. No honor. Just a low life filthy gypsy.
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post a clip of you fighting or knitting "tough guy" lol
Where's the clip YOU said you were going to post of you "hitting the bag."
Do you ever back up anything you say?
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Its funny how the four biggest shit talkers on this board,and I neednt name them,everyone knows who im talking about,they knock peoples physique and talk about fighting like they are world champions,well its some coincidence that the four of them have shit physiques,no job,no evidence to back up the fact they know all there is to know about fighting and three of them are bald,the other being a long haired chap
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did you just hate on me okami? :o
and my fulltime job starts monday and I actually had a video with me hitting the bag hahaha,
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Its funny how the four biggest shit talkers on this board,and I neednt name them,everyone knows who im talking about,they knock peoples physique and talk about fighting like they are world champions,well its some coincidence that the four of them have shit physiques,no job,no evidence to back up the fact they know all there is to know about fighting and three of them are bald,the other being a long haired chap
You can name names. Sev keeps saying how I have no chest and sure I'm no Arnold but compare to his, by his own admission, juiced up pics. I think I can hold my own. The guy just lives to be owned.
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Valane and Swede seem the type of dudes who never took a decent punch in their lives
gayer than discussing fighting via an internet message board
:D
Sev seem like the type to get his intestines puncture getting ass fucked by Swerlord and has to be sent back home with his ass leaking blood and reptilian cum juice.
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Oh no ! Not another 5 page paragraph meltdown by pellus
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did you just hate on me okami? :o
and my fulltime job starts monday and I actually had a video with me hitting the bag hahaha,
Haha no actually,you werent one of the four
You are bald though but you have decent physique so no you arent in that
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Haha no actually,you werent one of the four
You are bald though but you have decent physique so no you arent in that
Im Not bald but I do shave my head every damn week ;D
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Oh no ! Not another 5 page paragraph meltdown by pellus
You're owned again, bitch.
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In getbig there are no mma bad boys, just a bunch of fucktards that are dellusional!
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I hear a lot of stupid talk by guys that have never been in a street fight or a boxing match .
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Im Not bald but I do shave my head every damn week ;D
No the 3 baldies were sevastase,chaos and goodrum
Long hair is methos101
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I would say an amateur all Ireland champ is a decent boxer.
Fact of matter is I have seen them destroyed in a street fight Sevastase. Are you going to say I never seen them beat?
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Gee what a suprise, a thread about a mick and his alleged toughness ::)
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Roy Shaw was a feared street fighter, not a boxer,boxing was his side line. The Krays feared this man,
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Roy Shaw was a feared street fighter, not a boxer,boxing was his side line. The Krays feared this man,
Darren, serious question for you: Have you ever masturbated while watching an episode of "Danny Dyer's deadliest men"?
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Darren, serious question for you: Have you ever masturbated while watching an episode of "Danny Dyer's deadliest men"?
I fucked love that show, I can find the eposide when this war veteran scares the SHIT out of danny and actually hits him right on the jaw, not an hard punch but anyway lol.
I think its the same episode when danny didn't dare to sleep outside with him, when he was taking danny in the woord overnight for a survival "guide" or whatever lol.
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if these mma guys are really such badass fighters, how come people arent being killed and seriously injured in UFC fights ? the human skull isnt unbreakable, most grown men are capable of building up enough strength to crack it clean open with a punch.
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I fucked love that show, I can find the eposide when this war veteran scares the SHIT out of danny and actually hits him right on the jaw, not an hard punch but anyway lol.
I think its the same episode when danny didn't dare to sleep outside with him, when he was taking danny in the woord overnight for a survival "guide" or whatever lol.
I've only seen the one episode when he was hanging around with some fat bouncer from blackpool.
All i cam remember of it was Danny Dyer turning to the camera all bug eyed every now and then, and saying things like "he's a pwopa tasty geeza".
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if these mma guys are really such badass fighters, how come people arent being killed and seriously injured in UFC fights ? the human skull isnt unbreakable, most grown men are capable of building up enough strength to crack it clean open with a punch.
has to be one of the most retarded shit ive ever heard, god damnit you're fucking stupid sometimes tbombz.
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I've only seen the one episode when he was hanging around with some fat bouncer from blackpool.
All i cam remember of it was Danny Dyer turning to the camera all bug eyed every now and then, and saying things like "he's a pwopa tasty geeza".
Haha, I remember one episode when he was also hanging around a black bouncer/mma fighter, big dude obviously and apparently Very feared and had been training mma for like 20 years.
Anyway, at the end of the episode he made his comback in the ring and looked like PURE SHIT it was fucking hillarious. It looked like he had never trained fighting one single day in his life.
Big and strong and can fight a little bit at least so he makes a great bouncer, but fucking hell, after 20 years in the game I thought he was gonna look amazing lol.
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Roy Shaw was a feared street fighter, not a boxer,boxing was his side line. The Krays feared this man,
Shaw was a good street fighter and a pretty bad boxer. The Krays were both little fags, being inside broke them. The Richardsons were earning millions while the Krays were earning nothing.
Years back shaw slapped a local gangster around the face and got his face slashed for the trouble, no retaliation. The guys were fighters, they weren't really in for the heavy stuff.
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has to be one of the most retarded shit ive ever heard, god damnit you're fucking stupid sometimes tbombz.
and why is that? one clean, full force punch from a decently strong dude with a killer instinct can easily break a skull open.
i dont know, how often do concussions, brain injury, and skull fractures happen in the sport?