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Title: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Ron on March 01, 2010, 09:45:09 PM
All right, here is goes - the predictions of the ones who assume they know more than the rest - the so called experts - the ones who understand the sport - the ones who have more years of experience in guessing then some of you have been alive...

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/blogs/lonnie/?p=1953

From LT's blog...

As always, there will be plenty of new highlights at the Arnold Sports Festival, which gets underway with a bang Thursday night. That’s when the prejudging for fitness, figure and bikini will take place—at Veterans Memorial Auditorium—for the Arnold Amateur. And, as always, I’ll be behind the podium, so make sure to come by and say hi if you make it there…100 bikini competitors in only its second year!

One impressive new look this year will be the bodies of “The Experts” after the Swami, Harbody Hinds and Yogi Avidan had to purchase new pants last season for our rapidly expanding waist lines. After tipping the scales are nearly 200 pounds a while back, I’ll be at 188 come show time (at 5’10”), with 16” guns.  The 5’11” Hinds, up to 225 over the holidays, swears he’ll be a trim 205 by the time he arrives in Columbus on Wednesday, with 15” guns. Avidan, at 6’1”, ballooned up to a disgusting 259 after the ‘Olympia, but will be under the 240 mark in Ohio, with 14” guns.

Okay, so we still suck, physique wise, but we’re known for our vaunted cerebral gifts anyway, not mind-boggling muscle mass. And here we are to tackle—as I point out on my inside look in the ASC video on this site—what could be the most competitive event ever. With four—yes FOUR—legit title contenders.

Who else to start out the prognostications but the elder statesman and the group. And the sharpest of them all….me.  Oh, just to let you know, the rule for this one was we had to all make different selections for our winner, just to mix things up a bit. And, as you see, I’m the only one who still has faith that “The Blade” is still sublime enough to cut up this tough field.

SWAMI: LT

1. Dexter Jackson (ties Flex Wheeler for all-time ASC record with his 4th win)
2. Kai Greene
3. Branch Warren
4. Phil Heath
5. Toney Freeman
6. Melvin Anthony

HARDBODY: Isaac

1. Phil Heath
2. Dexter Jackson
3. Branch Warren
4. Kai Greene
5. Melvin Anthony
6. Toney Freeman

YOGI: Ron

1. Kai Greene
2. Phil Heath
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Branch Warren
5. Toney Freeman
6. Melvin Anthony

*SWAMI LONGSHOT: Don’t be surprised if Ronny Rockel finds his way into the top 6. My counterparts feel the same way about Hide Yamagishi.

Are you ready? Let’s get ready to rumble…or is it crumble?
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: G_Thang on March 01, 2010, 11:05:40 PM
HARDBODY: Isaac

1. Phil Heath


it wasnt hard for phil's schmoe to come up with this pick.

Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 02, 2010, 02:58:17 AM
Hmm .. I see Dex in 1st ( logic if he comes in shape )

kai 2nd  ( if shredded )

Phil 3rd ( if all goes well ...no flu at the last moment )

the rest is beyond me



But all in all it should be a great contest. Ron you gonna take pics there ?
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 02, 2010, 03:02:45 AM
Is Zack Khan competing?
yes ... he will def make top 20
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 02, 2010, 03:11:30 AM
What about Dennis Wolf? If he shows up like 2007, then I can't see anyone top that.
Wolf is overrated

if he shows up shredded I think he could make maybe top 5
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 02, 2010, 03:11:35 AM
Roelly VS Kahn...who will be the best?
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Meso_z on March 02, 2010, 03:32:24 AM
I think we will be surpriced this year. Branch, winklaar and a couple others are threats as well..
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Wiggs on March 02, 2010, 03:36:23 AM
Yes YARONI!!!!!!!!!! You finally got it right!!!


Unfortunatly with your track record, you just jinxed Kai....Thanks alot  >:(



 ;D
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Gino30 on March 02, 2010, 03:40:24 AM
What about Dennis Wolf? If he shows up like 2007, then I can't see anyone top that.

Dude, r u serious?.....Wolf at his best cannot compete with Dexter or Phil at less than their best......Team Wolf capitulated after the 2009 Olympia.....let it go.

Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: musclecenter on March 02, 2010, 06:02:08 AM
I think we will be surpriced this year. Branch, winklaar,Hide and a couple others are threats as well..
Agree
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: jaejonna on March 02, 2010, 06:21:12 AM
Issac picked Phil Heath to win the Presidential election ..
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: CT_Muscle on March 02, 2010, 06:54:30 AM
Kai conditioned is BY FAR the best athlete in this show  ::)
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: jprc10 on March 02, 2010, 07:00:41 AM
1. Dexter
2. Heath
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on March 02, 2010, 07:07:24 AM
Ron, you are all wrong.  Here's what's going down

Goodrum
1.  Branch Warren
2.  Dexter Jackson
3.  Phil Heath
4.  Kai Greene
5.  Toney Freeman


I don't know why everyone counts out Branch for.  He's the only one in this crowd that has the "Freak Factor".  
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: EL Mariachi on March 02, 2010, 07:13:06 AM
if there was a bet i'd put my money on dex, history proves that he's better than the rest of the boys and will be eager for this show after finishing 3rd behind branch at the O.

im good at betting btw, i predicted 8 soccer games last weekend and got a 950 eur payout just with 40 eur bet. so bet dex if you want to win cash
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 02, 2010, 08:22:18 AM
1. Kai Greene
2. Phil Heath
3. Dexter Jackson
4. Branch Warren
5. Toney Freeman
6. Melvin Anthony

Nice picks Big Dicked.
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Ex Coelis on March 02, 2010, 08:26:22 AM
1. Dexter
2. Branch
3. Phil
4. Kai
5. Toney
6. Hide
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2010, 08:28:58 AM
1. Dex
2. Phil
3. Kai
4. Branch
5. Toney
6. Hide
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 02, 2010, 08:30:18 AM
1. Dex
2. Phil
3. Kai
4. Branch
5. Toney
6. Hide
Come on Mal Kai wont be third man, why do you think this?
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Ex Coelis on March 02, 2010, 08:37:55 AM
Kai said he tried to look more streamlined at the Olympia

if he competes at his heaviest for the Arnold it should be pretty exciting
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Option D on March 02, 2010, 08:39:23 AM
Come on Mal Kai wont be third man, why do you think this?

I think Dex is going to bounce back from the O...and i think they will GIVE Phil 2nd..as a GIFT...
Kai carrys the most muscle and conditioning  (yes more than branch...compare body part for body part)
But this will be a political show...but if you want me to give you my real unpolitical line up

1. Kai
2. Dex
3. Toney (when on his A game)
4. Branch
5. Phil
6. Hide
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: jethro on March 02, 2010, 09:41:56 AM
Is Zack Khan competing?

no, he'll be at the nutrex booth though.  seen him saturday, looking LARGE
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Ron on March 02, 2010, 09:59:23 AM

Look at the competitor list before you ask who is in it or who is not?


As we head to Columbus for the Arnold Classic weekend, here are the competitor lists, for those who did not see them, and who was added and who dropped out. This is going to be an exciting weekend, and surprises are rumored on who will emerge in the top three at these contests. Here are the lists…

2010 Entries – Arnold Classic

1. Melvin Anthony
2. Tarek Elsetouhi
3. Toney Freeman
4. Kai Greene
5. Phil Heath
6. Dexter Jackson
7. Johnnie Jackson
8. Robert Piotrkowicz
9. Ronny Rockel
10. Silvio Samuel – (not competing – pulled out)
11. Sergey Shelestov
12. Branch Warren
13. Roelly Winklaar
14. Hidetada Yamagishi

2010 Entries – Figure International

1. Monica Brant
2. Krissy Chin
3. Alicia Harris
4. Candice Houston
5. Heather Mae French
6. Monica Mark-Escalante
7. Angela Mraz
8. Jessica Putnam – (not competing – pulled out)
9. Larissa Reis
10. Kristal Richardson – (not competing – pulled out)
11. Felicia Romero
12. Rosa-Maria Romero
13. Sherlyn Roy
14. Mindi Smith
15. Erin Stern
16. Kristina Tauti
17. Kim Tilden
18. Andrea Watson
19. Latisha Wilder
20. Nicole Wilkins Lee
21. Christiana Casoni (added later)

2010 Entries – Fitness International

1. Myriam Capes
2. Regiane Da Silva
3. Nicole Duncan
4. Tina Durkin
5. Allison Ethier
6. Adela Garcia
7. Tracey Greenwood – (not competing – pulled out)
8. Oksana Grishina
9. Jennifer Hendershott – (not competing – pulled out)
10. Tanji Johnson
11. Julie Palmer
12. Kayde Puckett
13. Camala Rodriguez
14. Sylvia Tremblay
15. Kizzy Vaines
16. Trish Warren
17. Bethany Wagner – added later

2010 Entries – Ms. International

1. Heather Armbrust – (not competing – pulled out)
2. Lisa Aukland
3. Dayana Cadeau
4. Iris Kyle
5. Debi Laszewski
6. Zoa Linsey
7. Mah-Ann Mendoza
8. Yaxeni Oriquen Garcia
9. Jeannie Paparone
10. Betty Pariso
11. Alina Popa
12. Brenda Raganot
13. Elena Shportun-Willemer
14. Dena Westerfield
15. Antoinette Thompson – added later
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: io856 on March 02, 2010, 10:01:23 AM
considering the form branch was in at the  Olympia I see it doubtful that he would win this contest

that would have taken a hell of a lot out of him
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Expert' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Wiggs on March 02, 2010, 10:03:45 AM
What are the rumors Ron?
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: French on March 02, 2010, 10:11:27 AM
1. Kai Greene  8)
2. Phil Heath
3. Branch Warren
4. Dexter Jackson
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Relentless on March 02, 2010, 10:32:54 AM
I'm predicting Melvin will have returned to Marshmallow Man.  Soft as a baby's ass and nowhere near the top 5.

Phil Heath will look great, but narrow compared Kai. 

If he shows up 100%, Kai Greene for the win.  If not, Dex will nab his 4th Arnold.

Branch will win the most muscular.
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Earl1972 on March 02, 2010, 10:59:29 AM
is it just me or does the show lack the buzz of past arnold's?

maybe i'm just less of a fan these days, but the arnold seemed like a huge dea 5  - 10 years ago

E
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 02, 2010, 11:09:55 AM
is it just me or does the show lack the buzz of past arnold's?

maybe i'm just less of a fan these days, but the arnold seemed like a huge dea 5  - 10 years ago

E

Just older and wiser.

When i was a kid i thought KISS was the greatest band of all time

By the time i was 13 i thought they were a bunch of no-talent hacks
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 02, 2010, 11:13:00 AM
once the behind the scenes of this "sport" were exposed, we saw bodybuilding for what it is

it is sad really ...

falling in love with bodybuilding at 15 feels like being duped into gay shit by an old pervert   :D
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: tbombz on March 02, 2010, 11:14:30 AM
back when flex ronnie cormier ray levrone nasser preist were competing it was a bigger deal because a) better competitors... b) more media coverage, some arnold classics were even on national television.





for this year, id like to see kai win again, as logn as he deserves it.
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Julio Ceasar on March 02, 2010, 12:30:24 PM
I'm afraid that Kai wont be in shape.....I'm afraid that no one on the stage will be. Maybe Dexter will be!
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on March 02, 2010, 12:52:03 PM
1. Kai
2. Dex
3. Phil
4. Branch
5. Toney
6. Hide



3rd and 4th place can go the other way depending on their conditioning.
I have Kai at number 1 since I think he is super, super hungry and determined to win. Dex is also pushing the age clock.
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: kyomu on March 02, 2010, 12:55:29 PM
If Kai comes in shape, he will repeat it again.
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 02, 2010, 01:16:13 PM
If Heath can't win against this crap lineup then he should just leave the "sport"
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 02, 2010, 01:23:53 PM
If Kai comes in shape, he will repeat it again.
X2
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: CHOPPER1234 on March 02, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
If the judges can't get it right how do you expect us to?
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Earl1972 on March 02, 2010, 03:13:41 PM
back when flex ronnie cormier ray levrone nasser preist were competing it was a bigger deal because a) better competitors... b) more media coverage, some arnold classics were even on national television.

.

yeah bodybuilding seemed cool back then :(

E
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 02, 2010, 03:16:04 PM
yeah bodybuilding seemed cool back then :(

E
What the hell has happened to bodybuilding now Earl?
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Earl1972 on March 02, 2010, 03:26:05 PM
What the hell has happened to bodybuilding now Earl?

todays guys don't have the shape and structure of the 90's guys, they look smooth, bigger bellies etc

E
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Ex Coelis on March 02, 2010, 03:44:15 PM
old people always claim things were better in "their day"
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: honest on March 02, 2010, 05:07:56 PM
1st Heath
2nd Jackson
3rd Greene
4th Warren
5th Hide
6th Toney.

Rolly will be last, he might beat Shelestov
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Wiggs on March 02, 2010, 05:12:21 PM
People please.  When has Kai NOT come in shape? 
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: mar10s on March 02, 2010, 05:17:43 PM
I was told that Kai was in Powerhouse today with his trainer going through some of his posing routine and that he looks very good.  If he comes in the contest on, I think he takes it.

Kai
Branch
Dex
Phil
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: musclecenter on March 02, 2010, 06:16:34 PM
old people fart always claim things were better in "their day"
::)
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: musclecenter on March 02, 2010, 06:21:38 PM
The Swami's ASC Predictions

Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Lift Studios on March 02, 2010, 08:39:39 PM
The swami predicted Melvin in 6th at the Phoenix Pro and QT second. He's rusty and his crystal ball is a little dusty.

Ron predicting you to win is like being on the Madden cover. Cool bragging rights on Getbig but you're screwed come time for the big game.


 ;D
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Earl1972 on March 02, 2010, 08:50:22 PM
old people always claim things were better in "their day"

men with big bellies like bodybuilders with big bellies

E
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: GroinkTropin on March 02, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
Ron, you are all wrong.  Here's what's going down

Goodrum
1.  Branch Warren
2.  Dexter Jackson
3.  Phil Heath
4.  Kai Greene
5.  Toney Freeman


I don't know why everyone counts out Branch for.  He's the only one in this crowd that has the "Freak Factor".  




Spot on. Branch is winning the rest of you fucktards are blind.
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Steve Namat on March 02, 2010, 09:51:58 PM
1. Kai Greene
2. Dexter Jackson
3. Phil Heath/Branch Warren
5. Ronnie Rockell
6. Toney Freeman
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Ron on March 03, 2010, 08:37:45 AM
Quote
What are the rumors Ron?

Rumors are that it is anyones title to win this year - if Kai is spot on, he can take it.  Dexter never is out of shape, and knows he needs to take care of business. Phil Heath got sick the night before the O prejudging and needs to redeem himself here.  And Branch ... well, Branch is clearly a force to be reckoned with, but can he continue his incredible streak. For these four, anything can happens.

Of course, Toney Freeman, Melvin Anthony, Hidetada Yamagishi, Ronny Rockel and a few others can get into the top 6 too, or even higher, as anything can occur.

Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: musclecenter on March 03, 2010, 08:58:35 AM
Rumors are that it is anyones title to win this year - if Kai is spot on, he can take it.  Dexter never is out of shape, and knows he needs to take care of business. Phil Heath got sick the night before the O prejudging and needs to redeem himself here.  And Branch ... well, Branch is clearly a force to be reckoned with, but can he continue his incredible streak. For these four, anything can happens.

Of course, Toney Freeman, Melvin Anthony, Hidetada Yamagishi, Ronny Rockel and a few others can get into the top 6 too, or even higher, as anything can occur.


agree


Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Option D on March 03, 2010, 08:59:05 AM
Rumors are that it is anyones title to win this year - if Kai is spot on, he can take it.  Dexter never is out of shape, and knows he needs to take care of business. Phil Heath got sick the night before the O prejudging and needs to redeem himself here.  And Branch ... well, Branch is clearly a force to be reckoned with, but can he continue his incredible streak. For these four, anything can happens.

Of course, Toney Freeman, Melvin Anthony, Hidetada Yamagishi, Ronny Rockel and a few others can get into the top 6 too, or even higher, as anything can occur.



Realistically...Where do you think that Toney is gonna go... He amazes me onstage...
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Ex Coelis on March 03, 2010, 08:59:17 AM
I hope Roelly sneaks into the top 6
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 03, 2010, 09:01:07 AM
I hope Roelly sneaks into the top 6
:D

top 16 maybe
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Gino30 on March 04, 2010, 04:17:46 AM
He showed up at 09 Olympia out of shape. If he comes in ripped then he is bigger than Heath/Greene/Hide/Dex and with a nice waist. What's so wrong with what I said?  ???

Marcus was bigger than Jay and Ronnie and Levrone and Wheeler.........

Indeed, Wolf is the Marcus of his generation.....a monster who he cannot put it togother like those above him.....he does not have the genetics and lines and flow.....actually Kai and Hide and over-achievers - i think wolf has their measure.......but Heath and Dex have truly great physiques....wolf cannot ever compete with this.
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Cleanest Natural on March 04, 2010, 04:20:49 AM
Wolf will never have his 2005 waist again ...that is long gone with the new achieved mass

sad but true

he went overboard with size as ussual.
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: 'Experts' Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: Gino30 on March 04, 2010, 05:23:42 AM
Team Wolf is alive?......I thought they turned on each other?
Title: Re: Arnold Classic: Predictions of the Top 6
Post by: CT_Muscle on March 06, 2010, 09:22:41 PM
Kai conditioned is BY FAR the best athlete in this show  ::)

IMOSF

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