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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Parker on March 06, 2010, 01:07:17 PM
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A nice adaption to a old table trick.
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Before a click on it, what does it contain.
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A nice adaption to a old table trick.
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Haha - excellent! 8)
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A nice adaption to a old table trick.
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have you ridden one yet?
bench
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Makes me want to ride my Bike and try this
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Before a click on it, what does it contain.
A college b-ball player runs a site with b-ball trick shots
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have you ridden one yet?
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No, have you? I've ridden a friends new Honda CBR600RR and me likey the bikey! I am clueless to bikes though, so I just like the way it felt.
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have you ridden one yet?
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I think Parker is one of those guys that knows everything about every exotic car ever made but drives a 96 accord
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I think Parker is one of those guys that knows everything about every exotic car ever made but drives a 96 accord
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That's what I said
he claims to drive a 96 Lexus
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That's what I said
he claims to drive a 96 Lexus
I never said that, you did. The IS300 was made from 2001-2005, in the Japan it was known as the Altezza or IS300/200. It was made in 98-2005. A full 2 yrs before your said 96 Lexus.
Besides, I wouldn't mind having a 96 LS400 as a runabout or project car.
Groink, I don't know that much about bikes, only a tad...never really been into them, but I have friends who are into them, so I confess that I quite ignorant about bikes, I only know a few things.
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That's what I said
he claims to drive a 96 Lexus
what's mini wage in rome? cause in states that can get you a E300 Benz in Mississippi cause they ONLY PAY $300 a mth for rent...so $600 car note is good to go. i guess it's Yugo for u...parasite.
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I never said that, you did. The IS300 was made from 2001-2005, in the Japan it was known as the Altezza or IS300/200. It was made in 98-2005. A full 2 yrs before your said 96 Lexus.
Besides, I wouldn't mind having a 96 LS400 as a runabout or project car.
Groink, I don't know that much about bikes, only a tad...never really been into them, but I have friends who are into them, so I confess that I quite ignorant about bikes, I only know a few things.
cut the crap
what car do you drive ?
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Parker knows his shit about cars. I think drives a Lexus no matter what year/model the man is the Getbig car advisor around here.
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Sev? What's the deal, are you "measuring" again?
Thanks Nobody. But if I am wrong, I will admit it, and find the answer.
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Sev? What's the deal, are you "measuring" again?
Thanks Nobody. But if I am wrong, I will admit it, and find the answer.
WHAT CAR DO YOU DRIVE ?
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That is a cool advertisement - clever.
I am interested to see if BMW can make a dent in a market owned by the Japanese and Italians. I sat on the new BMW and got all the marketing fluff this past fall when I went to the MotoGP races in Indy. It is definitely a heavily engineered machine that makes serious horsepower. The most fair minded reviews I have read so far claim that it certainly does make HP that is near class leading but the suspension and "user friendliness" of the bike have a way to go. There is NO way that BMW will claim the literbike throne the first year out of the gates. And personally you will never find one in my garage. With that said I am happy to see a new company enter the hypersport market. The more bikes available the better the end product offered to the consumer will end up being.
BMW campaigned the S1000rr in WSBK this year and did OK for a first year effort. They were nowhere near the front but turned in respectable finishes. I do not see them being truly competitive in this class of racing for at least another 3-5 years. However putting a factory team and riders out there shows a huge commitment to making a long term commitment to performance bikes. BMW's own top brass admit that prior to the S1000rr the BMW line up of bikes appealed only to older riders. The company is making a shift to appeal to a younger market and this bike is a step in the right direction.
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WHAT CAR DO YOU DRIVE ?
Ive stated on here before, several times. A pearl white IS300, light brown leather interior. No mods.
Clean.
AP, that's a good point. I haven't really followed it. One of friends has a Buell (likes being different) he is interested in the BMW, but doesn't like the headlights, and also wants to see if BMW will build a 600 if this bike is successful.
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That is a cool advertisement - clever.
I am interested to see if BMW can make a dent in a market owned by the Japanese and Italians. I sat on the new BMW and got all the marketing fluff this past fall when I went to the MotoGP races in Indy. It is definitely a heavily engineered machine that makes serious horsepower. The most fair minded reviews I have read so far claim that it certainly does make HP that is near class leading but the suspension and "user friendliness" of the bike have a way to go. There is NO way that BMW will claim the literbike throne the first year out of the gates. And personally you will never find one in my garage. With that said I am happy to see a new company enter the hypersport market. The more bikes available the better the end product offered to the consumer will end up being.
BMW campaigned the S1000rr in WSBK this year and did OK for a first year effort. They were nowhere near the front but turned in respectable finishes. I do not see them being truly competitive in this class of racing for at least another 3-5 years. However putting a factory team and riders out there shows a huge commitment to making a long term commitment to performance bikes. BMW's own top brass admit that prior to the S1000rr the BMW line up of bikes appealed only to older riders. The company is making a shift to appeal to a younger market and this bike is a step in the right direction.
I don't know dick about sport bikes other than they are stupid fast, but I can tell you this...
Rich kids will buy the beemer because it's a beemer, it looks cool, and it's expensive.
How many people will ever explore the upper limits of a machine like that anyway? I know crazy bastards like bench do, but he's the minority
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Thats a VERY nice bike!
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I don't know dick about sport bikes other than they are stupid fast, but I can tell you this...
Rich kids will buy the beemer because it's a beemer, it looks cool, and it's expensive.
How many people will ever explore the upper limits of a machine like that anyway? I know crazy bastards like bench do, but he's the minority
Sportbike buyer is waaaaay different than stupid kids who buy BMW's to look cool. Hardcore sportbike buyers (the people I know anyway) buy based on the machine they feel most comfortable on. There is also no denying that hardcore riders do follow MotoGP and WSBK and the manufacturers who consistently finish on top of the podium typically sell more units annually.
In the motorcycle world that I live in BMWs are the ride of choice for tweed-wearing, pipe smoking old fools. I give a sh*t about how "premium" their other products may be. They have little to no track record of winning where it counts....the racetrack.
You are correct that the average consumer does not explore the upper limits of a performance motorcycle on public roads. With that said - there is something to be said for a motorcycle having a racing "pedigree"......BMW needs to earn this before they become a serious player in the market.
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Sportbike buyer is waaaaay different than stupid kids who buy BMW's to look cool. Hardcore sportbike buyers (the people I know anyway) buy based on the machine they feel most comfortable on. There is also no denying that hardcore riders do follow MotoGP and WSBK and the manufacturers who consistently finish on top of the podium typically sell more units annually.
In the motorcycle world that I live in BMWs are the ride of choice for tweed-wearing, pipe smoking old fools. I give a sh*t about how "premium" their other products may be. They have little to no track record of winning where it counts....the racetrack.
You are correct that the average consumer does not explore the upper limits of a performance motorcycle on public roads. With that said - there is something to be said for a motorcycle having a racing "pedigree"......BMW needs to earn this before they become a serious player in the market.
100% spot on post....
....i have been wanting to ride one of the new BMW's....but havent had the chance yet.....
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100% spot on post....
....i have been wanting to ride one of the new BMW's....but havent had the chance yet.....
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I would also like one for a weekend "loaner" too - living with a bike for a couple of days would be a nice way to really gauge if you like it or not.
I could be wrong but I do not think the BMW will be as near indestructible as the Japanese Big 4. It is already well established that Ducatis are somewhat fragile and more expensive to maintain than the Japanese bikes. I think the BMW will be a step up over the Italian stuff for durability but it will still be more expensive to own and maintain than a Honda/Yam/Suz/Kaw.
One thing I really like about the BMW though is that they really tried to price it competitively with the Japanese competition. The Ducatis really are not as competitively priced as they should be IMO.
Personally I am waiting for the 2nd gen R1 with the cross plane "Big Bang" engine. I am hoping it is 20lbs lighter than the current R1 with a HP bump....until then I am more than happy with my GSX-R.
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I would also like one for a weekend "loaner" too - living with a bike for a couple of days would be a nice way to really gauge if you like it or not.
I could be wrong but I do not think the BMW will be as near indestructible as the Japanese Big 4. It is already well established that Ducatis are somewhat fragile and more expensive to maintain than the Japanese bikes. I think the BMW will be a step up over the Italian stuff for durability but it will still be more expensive to own and maintain than a Honda/Yam/Suz/Kaw.
One thing I really like about the BMW though is that they really tried to price it competitively with the Japanese competition. The Ducatis really are not as competitively priced as they should be IMO.
Personally I am waiting for the 2nd gen R1 with the cross plane "Big Bang" engine. I am hoping it is 20lbs lighter than the current R1 with a HP bump....until then I am more than happy with my GSX-R.
i had a ducati in my possesion for over a month last year......i would never pay for one...
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i had a ducati in my possesion for over a month last year......i would never pay for one...
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Which one, and what did you think of it. Also, what do you and AP think about the Hondas ABS and it's weight gain from it, and. The S1000RR's traction control various modes?
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i had a ducati in my possesion for over a month last year......i would never pay for one...
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I am not surprised to hear this - if I am not mistaken you have spent most of your miles aboard a Japanese inline 4?
I had a Ducati 998r for a couple of weeks a few years ago (Termignoni exhaust, Ohlins fork & shock, Michelins, blah blah blah). It was a cool bike to ride around for attention but I could never get used to the damn thing. The throttle had a very abrupt "on-off" feel to it that I just could not adapt to. I have ridden Jap v-twins like the TL1000s, TL1000r and RC51 and I found ALL of those bikes to have more manageable throttle feel. The Ducati was certainly pretty to look at and a great conversation starter but for the life of me I just wasn't able to feel comfortable enough on it to ride it quickly.
For me the inline-4 is just a better set up. Probably because I have been riding one since day one.
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Which one, and what did you think of it. Also, what do you and AP think about the Hondas ABS and it's weight gain from it, and. The S1000RR's traction control various modes?
The ABS feature on the Honda seems cool in an engineering bragging rights sort of way but seems totally unnecessary on the street. I would never in a million years pay extra money for it. The weight penalty only adds to the negative. It is impressive technology sure but wait a few years and it is likely ALL of the Big 4 will include ABS at no extra charge.
A lot of motorcycle purists hate the whole idea of ABS on a bike in the first place....I am not sure what to think yet as I have yet to try it......let's just say I am a skeptic at this point. As a company Honda loves to flex its engineering muscle...at this stage of the ABS game it seems they only include it as an optional feature to illustrate that they are ahead of the other three manufacturers. Make no mistake Honda takes immense pride in being first to market with engineering advances. Of the Big 4 they undoubtedly have the most cash for R&D.....that does not necessarily mean that they always make the best bike available to the consumer though.
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I am not surprised to hear this - if I am not mistaken you have spent most of your miles aboard a Japanese inline 4?
I had a Ducati 998r for a couple of weeks a few years ago (Termignoni exhaust, Ohlins fork & shock, Michelins, blah blah blah). It was a cool bike to ride around for attention but I could never get used to the damn thing. The throttle had a very abrupt "on-off" feel to it that I just could not adapt to. I have ridden Jap v-twins like the TL1000s, TL1000r and RC51 and I found ALL of those bikes to have more manageable throttle feel. The Ducati was certainly pretty to look at and a great conversation starter but for the life of me I just wasn't able to feel comfortable enough on it to ride it quickly.
For me the inline-4 is just a better set up for me. Probably because I have been riding one since day one.
it just wasnt fun....i own a bike from every jap big 4 except yamaha, and they always deliver....the same could not be said for the ducati...
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The ABS feature on the Honda seems cool in an engineering bragging rights sort of way but seems totally unnecessary on the street. I would never in a million years pay extra money for it. The weight penalty only adds to the negative. It is impressive technology sure but wait a few years and it is likely ALL of the Big 4 will include ABS at no extra charge.
A lot of motorcycle purists hate the whole idea of ABS on a bike in the first place....I am not sure what to think yet as I have yet to try it......let's just say I am a skeptic at this point. As a company Honda loves to flex its engineering muscle...at this stage of the ABS game it seems they only include it as an optional feature to illustrate that they are ahead of the other three manufacturers. Make no mistake Honda takes immense pride in being first to market with engineering advances. Of the Big 4 they undoubtedly have the most cash for R&D.....that does not necessarily mean that they always make the best bike available to the consumer though.
i dont like the ABS because i have a specific riding style that i have used for years, and ABS would cause me to change that.......no thanks...
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Okay, the weight penalty, some 20+ pounds is alot, and as you said, it seems to be a a way of flexing engineering muscles. Honestly, I think eventually the system will get smaller as it it get perfected by Honda and other companies, it always works out like that.
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Okay, the weight penalty, some 20+ pounds is alot, and as you said, it seems to be a a way of flexing engineering muscles. Honestly, I think eventually the system will get smaller as it it get perfected by Honda and other companies, it always works out like that.
if it's your first bike...go for it.....but for a seasoned rider it would be taking a step back...
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