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Title: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: musclecenter on March 06, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: musclecenter on March 06, 2010, 08:39:39 PM
His brother Quincy Winklaar at Amateur

Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Stavios on March 06, 2010, 08:41:48 PM
dude looked great

he will place well next year
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Vince B on March 06, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
I really dislike the way relatively unknown bodybuilders have to pay their dues. A good case can be made that Winklaar was top 3 at this contest and definitely top 6. I have no idea what the judges were doing.
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Stavios on March 06, 2010, 09:05:43 PM
I really dislike the way relatively unknown bodybuilders have to pay their dues. A good case can be made that Winklaar was top 3 at this contest and definitely top 6. I have no idea what the judges were doing.

he placed exactly where he deserved
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Lion666 on March 06, 2010, 09:09:13 PM
if he maintains that waistline and keeps adding size while keeping the definition,,,, hes going to do very well.
he has that classic bb'r look while having the modern day mass...
may be looking at a future mr o right there... at least a top 3'r
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: musclecenter on March 06, 2010, 09:12:55 PM
he placed exactly where he deserved
x2
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: MattT on March 06, 2010, 10:55:53 PM
x2

x3
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: spinnis on March 06, 2010, 11:22:27 PM
dude looked great

he will place well next year

his dream was top 6 to qualify for the mr O, I would liked to have seen that happened though
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: slicksta on March 06, 2010, 11:28:53 PM
great arms on this dude.
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: honest on March 06, 2010, 11:50:42 PM
he placed exactly where he deserved

x 4 great debut.
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2010, 12:30:12 AM
Roelly Winklaar's back double bicepes pose seems strange ???
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Gino30 on March 07, 2010, 12:50:19 AM
I like what this dude brings to the stage.....some epic arms in the making....

keep the gut down for pete's sake.....bring up the back and all else....slowly but surely


he brings something fresh


and most importantly ---> he has no fruit issues
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Immortal_Technique on March 07, 2010, 12:57:55 AM
I really dislike the way relatively unknown bodybuilders have to pay their dues. A good case can be made that Winklaar was top 3 at this contest and definitely top 6. I have no idea what the judges were doing.

Back is a bodypart.
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: kawaks on March 07, 2010, 01:11:55 AM
if he maintains that waistline and keeps adding size while keeping the definition,,,, hes going to do very well.
he has that classic bb'r look while having the modern day mass...
may be looking at a future mr o right there... at least a top 3'r


Just get him on the phone and advise him to remove that shitty-ab-tatt (which don't belong on bodybuilding professionals).

If he wants to be a CHAMPION, his physique should be the art work, not crap.tatts
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: honest on March 07, 2010, 01:34:04 AM
Roelly needs to get someone to show him how to train his back properly, customising a routine to his bodys mechanics, his back genetics look similar to Dennis James, he needs to grow his lats but not his guts, as DJs back has improved but as his waist got bigger as did his lats and they basically cancelled each other out, from the size of Roellys arms arms and the narrowness of his lats conventional training would be just another bicep workout for him. He should seek out an inteligent trainer like Yates and have him design a program for his structure, Yates routine wouldnt work,as genetically they are so different, but Dorians the smartest Olympian ever.
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Gino30 on March 07, 2010, 03:13:43 AM
Honest,

Good point...it's a little strange to think that some pros cannot find the right way to train some muscle.....we all saw the Kyumo video of Paco doing one-arm dumbless rows.....it was toally bizarre....half dumbbell shrug, quater tricep kickback with some weird latin dancing hip shake at the end....

Yes, end of the day, these guys are huge (thanks to the "supps"), but to people who've been lifting serious for years, its obvious not all pros know the proper mechanics....Arnold, Frnaco, Wheeler, Corimer, Dorian and Ronnie are a few of the pros I've seen who train with awesome technqiue and style....I loved the way Arnold, Ronnie and Dorian used compound movements.....these guys didn't shy away from the barbells and dumbless.....it shows in their physique

Anyway, I'm digressing.....Roelly is ok....just please watch the gut - its already showing early stages of pregnancy....and ditch the grandma....he needs someone who's been up on stage and has/had a good physique....not some old lady who really doeesnt understand what its like to build a massive frame
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: mantronik on March 07, 2010, 03:22:45 AM
I don't know why everybody is complaining over Roelly's back being narrow and nobody making an issue over the number 2 from last night's back, hell even Branch's back has some weaknesses?
The guy just started bodybuilding and this was his pro debut!
Furthermore I'm not sure if his 'bad back' is really all that bad. I think the culprit is the way he presents it to us, the way he poses it. If he could come in a tad harder and knows how to show us his back, it would shut everybody up.
We know for years his posing needs work in order to show his physique to it's best ability, but he's just too lazy to work on it. (working with a ballerina is not the way to do it for Roelly. Get Paul Lans/Berry deMey or a video from Russ Testo or just watch other good classic posers: Shawn, Milos, Labrada, Rusty J, Russ Testo etc)

Phil doesn't have a wide back, Flex and Shawn didn't have a wide back either (better then Phil but still not wide) but these guys have such a way to pose and present their back and are so well detailed and seperated etc that you don't even see that they don't have wide backs, just very very detailed and seperated which creates a wow factor and makes their back double biceps fantastic anyway.

I agree Roelly could watch the gut in between poses, which has to do with bad posing/lack of posing practice again.
That 'grandma' WAS onstage at 1 point in her life and I think she did a pretty awesome job by putting this new pro on the Arnold stage between these Olympians and still kept his own, instead of advising him to sit out 1 or 2 more years to "fill out" or some of that crap. She had 1 year to work with him after she worked with him already for just a few months to win the Arnold Amateur. She could have come up with 1000 excuses and refer to other rookies who sat out shows, but instead she motivated and believed in Roelly that he could do it on the world's biggest stage (yes bigger then the O in my opinion) and still get a VERY respectable placing out of this and for sure Flex or MD will sign him now, mark my words and eat crow.

Good job "grandma". First time for her as well to present a pro from Holland on such an international stage of this caliber. Hats off to you as well! Now get to the english course, while Roelly is in posing practice! (want dat laat nog te wensen over ;))
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Gino30 on March 07, 2010, 03:40:03 AM
True....she did ok....fair call....grandma did ok

BUT, Roelly's destiny will drive him to seek a more experienced trainer....its written at the bottom of your turkish coffee cup
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on March 07, 2010, 05:26:47 AM
Roelly's back look better than Branch's
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: G_Thang on March 07, 2010, 05:28:46 AM
had roelly at 6. grandma did a good job 1st time out. 
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: mantronik on March 07, 2010, 05:32:56 AM
and ditch the grandma....some old lady who really doeesnt understand what its like to build a massive frame

If grandma was there she would have "fail"ed you:
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Arthur Nus on March 07, 2010, 06:20:12 AM
If grandma was there she would have "fail"ed you:

She's known for having a bad temper.

Just ask the owner of the gym in the picture or should I say ex-owner since she burned the place down.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=323523.0;attach=362188;image)
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: mantronik on March 07, 2010, 06:50:00 AM
More reason not to fuck with oma, then!!
Seriously, I don't know about that and don't care too much. She did a great job with Roelly and his brother Quincy and more top bodybuilders in Holland.
She has all the right to burn down places I say :D
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: jude2 on March 07, 2010, 04:08:06 PM
he placed exactly where he deserved
X 5  Great showing for first pro show.
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: dyslexic on March 07, 2010, 04:45:15 PM
Johnny Fitness ranted about how he will be the next Mr. O.


Oh yeah, Johnny faggo fitness from MMI...
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Kwon on March 07, 2010, 04:48:46 PM
Roelly Winklaar's back double bicepes pose seems strange ???

He pushes his head forward much more than the other competitiors.
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Parker on March 07, 2010, 05:02:45 PM
Johnny Fitness ranted about how he will be the next Mr. O.


Oh yeah, Johnny faggo fitness from MMI...
Johnny Fitness also ranted on how Cutler deserved his Arnoldcwin over Cormier, saying Cutler had a better back...on the real, I think his 6x Arnold 2nd place finishes were whatcstarted ro make Cormier unravel...that has to be a record, 6x 2nd place finishes at the Same contest?

Roelly will not win the Olympia, but I do see him winning the Ironman and possibly the Arnold in the future.
Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 07, 2010, 05:09:17 PM
Lets all hope that his new found fame doesn't make him use massive amounts of HGH/slin and wreck his mid-section...We all know what happened to his Great Uncle HENRY WINKLER when he did this


Title: Re: Roelly Winklaar 7th place at 2010 Arnold Classic
Post by: musclecenter on March 07, 2010, 10:29:54 PM
Photoing for MD next morning after Arnold Classic.