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Getbig Main Boards => Politics and Political Issues Board => Topic started by: SAMSON123 on March 18, 2010, 12:34:10 PM
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What was that abuot that JOBS BILL Obama signed? Did it make it easier for companies to leave america?
China Drawing High-Tech Research From U.S.
by Keith Bradsher
Thursday, March 18, 2010
The New York Times
For years, many of China's best and brightest left for the United States, where high-tech industry was more cutting-edge. But Mark R. Pinto is moving in the opposite direction.
Mr. Pinto is the first chief technology officer of a major American tech company to move to China. The company, Applied Materials (AMAT), is one of Silicon Valley's most prominent firms. It supplied equipment used to perfect the first computer chips. Today, it is the world's biggest supplier of the equipment used to make semiconductors, solar panels and flat-panel displays.
In addition to moving Mr. Pinto and his family to Beijing in January, Applied Materials, whose headquarters are in Santa Clara, Calif., has just built its newest and largest research labs here. Last week, it even held its annual shareholders' meeting in Xi'an.
It is hardly alone. Companies -- and their engineers -- are being drawn here more and more as China develops a high-tech economy that increasingly competes directly with the United States.
A few American companies are even making deals with Chinese companies to license Chinese technology.
The Chinese market is surging for electricity, cars and much more, and companies are concluding that their researchers need to be close to factories and consumers alike. Applied Materials set up its latest solar research labs here after estimating that China would be producing two-thirds of the world's solar panels by the end of this year.
"We're obviously not giving up on the U.S.," Mr. Pinto said. "China needs more electricity. It's as simple as that."
China has become the world's largest auto market, and General Motors has a large and growing auto research center in Shanghai.
The country is also the biggest market for desktop computers and has the most Internet users. Intel (INTC) has opened research labs in Beijing for semiconductors and server networks.
Not just drawn by China's markets, Western companies are also attracted to China's huge reservoirs of cheap, highly skilled engineers -- and the subsidies offered by many Chinese cities and regions, particularly for green energy companies.
Now, Mr. Pinto said, researchers from the United States and Europe have to be ready to move to China if they want to do cutting-edge work on solar manufacturing because the new Applied Materials complex here is the only research center that can fit an entire solar panel assembly line.
"If you really want to have an impact on this field, this is just such a tremendous laboratory," he said.
Xi'an -- a city about 600 miles southwest of Beijing known for the discovery nearby of 2,200-year-old terra cotta warriors -- has 47 universities and other institutions of higher learning, churning out engineers with master's degrees who can be hired for $730 a month.
On the other side of Xi'an from Applied Materials sits Thermal Power Research Institute, China's world-leading laboratory on cleaner coal. The company has just licensed its latest design to Future Fuels in the United States.
The American company plans to pay about $100 million to import from China a 130-foot-high maze of equipment that turns coal into a gas before burning it. This method reduces toxic pollution and makes it easier to capture and sequester gases like carbon dioxide under ground.
Future Fuels will ship the equipment to Pennsylvania and have Chinese engineers teach American workers how to assemble and operate it.
Small clean-energy companies are headed to China, too.
NatCore Technology of Red Bank, N.J., recently discovered a way to make solar panels much thinner, reducing the energy and toxic materials required to manufacture them. American companies did not even come look at the technology, so NatCore reached a deal with a consortium of Chinese companies to finish developing its invention and mass-produce it in Changsha, China.
"These other countries -- China, Taiwan, Brazil -- were all over us," said Chuck Provini, the company's chief executive. President Obama has often spoken about creating clean-energy jobs in the United States. But China has shown the political will to do so, said Mr. Pinto, 49, who is also Applied Materials' executive vice president for solar systems and flat-panel displays.
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Why do companies leave the US? Because state and federal government regulate and tax the hell out of them. People want to believe its because of cheap labor, that is a very small part of the equation.
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Why do companies leave the US? Because state and federal government regulate and tax the hell out of them. People want to believe its because of cheap labor, that is a very small part of the equation.
China is more capitilistic that this country is right now.
No company will hire anyone while NObama is president.
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i remember in business school in 2003, reading in textbooks about how awesome globalization was.
while i enjoy cheap chinese products (My computer now costs $250, was 1000 a few years back), the number of broke ppl in my neighborhood shows a different angle.
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i remember in business school in 2003, reading in textbooks about how awesome globalization was.
while i enjoy cheap chinese products (My computer now costs $250, was 1000 a few years back), the number of broke ppl in my neighborhood shows a different angle.
Like this guy 240? No wonder why?
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julio worked at mcd both before and after 2003. Not sure he applies here.
but any chance for you to diss an obama follower is cool.
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julio worked at mcd both before and after 2003. Not sure he applies here.
but any chance for you to diss an obama follower is cool.
You said people in your hood are brook. Julio lives near you correct?
Do you really think microsoft, Apple, toyota, Ford, or any other company wants morons like that working for them demanding benefits?
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I dunno where julio lives, but I do stop at his mcd about once a month now.
at least he's working. I rent in a wealthier area ($250 to 300k houses in FL is pretty damn nice) and half the places on the block are forclosed.
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I dunno where julio lives, but I do stop at his mcd about once a month now.
at least he's working. I rent in a wealthier area ($250 to 300k houses in FL is pretty damn nice) and half the places on the block are forclosed.
Damn! I cant even get anything remoltely nice for anything less than 700k here w 15k a year in taxes. !
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China is more capitilistic that this country is right now.
No company will hire anyone while NObama is president.
they also have a free floating currency as well... ::)
Why don't you move to china 33367...It sounds like that country has more to offer you than the united states...we still have about 2.75 more years of the Obama reign..
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they also have a free floating currency as well... ::)
Why don't you move to china 33367...It sounds like that country has more to offer you than the united states...we still have about 2.75 more years of the Obama reign..
I dont like Egg Rolls and like women with T & A. Skinny little asians dont do anything for me.
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agreed.... asian porn does zilch for me. maybe they're hotter in real life, who knows
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agreed.... asian porn does zilch for me. maybe they're hotter in real life, who knows
My neighbor was Korean and she was a little thick and had assets, but most of them are WAAYYYY too skinny for my taste.