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Like he basically dominated that year, I just couldn't find any sort of point standings.
I heard it was close on the score sheet that year, but I'm guessing that was for 2nd.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/96%20olympia/p.jpg)
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my friend when saying he dominated on that year you must show all comparisons and not some selective shots showing his best poses ::)
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Straight firsts on what?
What categories do these guys even get judged on? Are the scorecards made public or are these kept hidden?
Anyone know about this?
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here is the whole thing on that day between dorian and the wizard..
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Looks like Nasser and Ray both beat him to me. Yates doesn't really look too great there. His wins must have been all business and politics, his later ones at least.
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Dorian owning The wizard of synthol
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your so fucking predictable, and so fucking lame
we get it,,,,,,you like nasser ::) ::)
you need to kill yourself......
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Last time i checked the votes are in and nasser lost
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Looks like Nasser and Ray both beat him to me. Yates doesn't really look too great there. His wins must have been all business and politics, his later ones at least.
yes i totally agree with you,.. he deserved to win in 92, and clearly deserved to win in 93 and 95.. i am not sure about 94 but it was very close.. 96 and especially 97 were jokes!!..
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your so fucking predictable, and so fucking lame
we get it,,,,,,you like nasser ::) ::)
you need to kill yourself......
i am just saying my neutral opinion, what is your problem?..
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yes i totally agree with you,.. he deserved to win in 92, and clearly deserved to win in 93 and 95.. i am not sure about 94 but it was very close.. 96 and especially 97 were jokes!!..
By 96 Yates was already the face of bodybuilding and there were millions of dollars riding on him. Lots of companys, sponsors and individuals lobbying for him to win purely for financial reasons.
Nasser and Ray definitely beat him here. I gotta say it. As much as you Team Nasser guys are annoying and fruity I must say Nasser was robbed in 96 and 97.
But so was Shawn Ray. Shawn Ray Mr. O 1999 was one of the best posing routines i've EVER seen and he got 5th???
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i am just saying my neutral opinion, what is your problem?..
screen caps dont tell the whole story............for example, you can have an instance like the standing front relaxed where dorian is obviously exhaling and nasser is standing with his abs flexed
muscles are very dynamic, moving them an inch or two or tightening them a little can have a dramatic effect on how they are presented............... .thats why pics and screencaps are very deceiving
i will even give it to you that, in 1996......nasshole might just have had them all licked......he was really on point
maybe he got robbed
but there are alot of people who got fucked over bythe IFBB over its history ,,,,,arnold got opympias he didnt deserve, so did ronnie, so did jay., ect..ect....ect
but the only person you care about is NASSER NASSER NASSER...............whi ch makes you myopic, single-minded, and a homosexual cockluster
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By 96 Yates was already the face of bodybuilding and there were millions of dollars riding on him. Lots of companys, sponsors and individuals lobbying for him to win purely for financial reasons.
Nasser and Ray definitely beat him here. I gotta say it. As much as you Team Nasser guys are annoying and fruity I must say Nasser was robbed in 96 and 97.
But so was Shawn Ray. Shawn Ray Mr. O 1999 was one of the best posing routines i've EVER seen and he got 5th???
hmmm really I always thought this was a blow out by Dorian, I don't even see Nasser or Shawn coming close to the completeness of Dorian :-X :-X
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screen caps dont tell the whole story............for example, you can have an instance like the standing front relaxed where dorian is obviously exhaling and nasser is standing with his abs flexed
muscles are very dynamic, moving them an inch or two or tightening them a little can have a dramatic effect on how they are presented............... .thats why pics and screencaps are very deceiving
i will even give it to you that, in 1996......nasshole might just have had them all licked......he was really on point
maybe he got robbed
but there are alot of people who got fucked over bythe IFBB over its history ,,,,,arnold got opympias he didnt deserve, so did ronnie, so did jay., ect..ect....ect
but the only person you care about is NASSER NASSER NASSER...............whi ch makes you myopic, single-minded, and a homosexual cockluster
It's racial.....if nasser's name was tom jackson they wouldn't give a fuck about him.
Team Nasser is a bunch of racists, first and foremost....being ignorant zealots is pretty much standard operating procedure for their ilk
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It's racial.....if nasser's name was tom jackson they wouldn't give a fuck about him.
Team Nasser is a bunch of racists, first and foremost....being ignorant zealots is pretty much standard operating procedure for their ilk
what i dont get is that there have been other middle-eastern bodybuilders.......samir bannout, amahd haider, now you have zack khan, and a bunch of other guys who are relativlely new on the scene
pardon my spelling moe bannout, tamir al gundy, the guy who just won the arnold amature
but it sjust this one guys.......they only care about this one guy, so fucking bizarre
i would feel like such a loser if i spent all my time professing the greatness of another man
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It's racial.....if nasser's name was tom jackson they wouldn't give a fuck about him.
Team Nasser is a bunch of racists, first and foremost....being ignorant zealots is pretty much standard operating procedure for their ilk
Are there any members of Team Nasser who are not Arabic or Middle-Eastern? I don't think so.
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screen caps dont tell the whole story............for example, you can have an instance like the standing front relaxed where dorian is obviously exhaling and nasser is standing with his abs flexed
muscles are very dynamic, moving them an inch or two or tightening them a little can have a dramatic effect on how they are presented............... .thats why pics and screencaps are very deceiving
i will even give it to you that, in 1996......nasshole might just have had them all licked......he was really on point
maybe he got robbed
but there are alot of people who got fucked over bythe IFBB over its history ,,,,,arnold got opympias he didnt deserve, so did ronnie, so did jay., ect..ect....ect
but the only person you care about is NASSER NASSER NASSER...............whi ch makes you myopic, single-minded, and a homosexual cockluster
you are wrong..
firstly you are an idiot because you agree with me that nasser got robbed on that day bust still you attack me for saying my opinion.. what a contradiction!!..
i made a thread before about mr. o. 81 to show how it was a shitty decision to give the title to franco with his gyno and small legs.. and i said many times that victor was much better than jay in 2007!!.. i even made a thread wondering how judges were doing their job to make jay win the olympia in 2007 and put dex. in the 3rd place then in the next year to give the title to dex (who looked the exact same as 2007) over an improved jay!!.. no logic at all!!.. and i said many times that the only mr. o. who deserved all his wins among those who won more than 5 times was lee haney.. both dorian and ronnie didnt deserve many of their wins!!..
you assholes dont care when i defend other bbs who were robbed but i become a pain in your asses only when i talk about nasser!!..
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Like he basically dominated that year, I just couldn't find any sort of point standings.
I heard it was close on the score sheet that year, but I'm guessing that was for 2nd.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/96%20olympia/p.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/96%20olympia/54.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/96%20olympia/49.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/96%20olympia/23.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/19%200/1.jpg)
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/96%20olympia/35.jpg)
Whose gimmick are you?
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what i dont get is that there have been other middle-eastern bodybuilders.......samir bannout, amahd haider, now you have zack khan, and a bunch of other guys who are relativlely new on the scene
pardon my spelling moe bannout, tamir al gundy, the guy who just won the arnold amature
but it sjust this one guys.......they only care about this one guy, so fucking bizarre
i would feel like such a loser if i spent all my time professing the greatness of another man
you also forgot benaziza!!..
this tells you that we like nasser not because he is muslim or his father is arab!!.. if we take it this way we would support any of these mentioned guys who are more arabs than the wizard..
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you are wrong..
firstly you are an idiot because you agree with me that nasser got robbed on that day bust still you attack me for saying my opinion.. what a contradiction!!..
i made a thread before about mr. o. 81 to show how it was a shitty decision to give the title to franco with his gyno and small legs.. and i said many times that victor was much better than jay in 2007!!.. i even made a thread wondering how judges were doing their job to make jay win the olympia in 2007 and put dex. in the 3rd place then in the next year to give the title to dex (who looked the exact same as 2007) over an improved jay!!.. no logic at all!!.. and i said many times that the only mr. o. who deserved all his wins among those who won more than 5 times was lee haney.. both dorian and ronnie didnt deserve many of their wins!!..
you assholes dont care when i defend other bbs who were robbed but i become a pain in your asses only when i talk about nasser!!..
MELTDOWN
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your so fucking predictable, and so fucking lame
we get it,,,,,,you like nasser ::) ::)
you need to kill yourself......
And you've been here for how long newbie? ::)
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MELTDOWN
wow what a witty comment from mr. alpha gronk :-\
mr. king till his master returns :-X
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wow what a witty comment from mr. alpha gronk :-\
mr. king till his master returns :-X
I think i hurt the little pygmy's feelings :D
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I think i hurt the little pygmy's feelings :D
may be if you think so ::)
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you are wrong..
firstly you are an idiot because you agree with me that nasser got robbed on that day bust still you attack me for saying my opinion.. what a contradiction!!..
i made a thread before about mr. o. 81 to show how it was a shitty decision to give the title to franco with his gyno and small legs.. and i said many times that victor was much better than jay in 2007!!.. i even made a thread wondering how judges were doing their job to make jay win the olympia in 2007 and put dex. in the 3rd place then in the next year to give the title to dex (who looked the exact same as 2007) over an improved jay!!.. no logic at all!!.. and i said many times that the only mr. o. who deserved all his wins among those who won more than 5 times was lee haney.. both dorian and ronnie didnt deserve many of their wins!!..
you assholes dont care when i defend other bbs who were robbed but i become a pain in your asses only when i talk about nasser!!..
I'm with you Sherief. You're a very intelligent and articulate poster and I respect your comments. They never feel biased to me. You just say it as you see it and I see it the same as you. Dorian 92-95 was deserving of his wins. 96-97 Dorian was not. The fact that he was awarded 1st place does not mean he was the best man those 2 respective nights and MANY people share that opinion, myself included.
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you are wrong..
firstly you are an idiot because you agree with me that nasser got robbed on that day bust still you attack me for saying my opinion.. what a contradiction!!..
i made a thread before about mr. o. 81 to show how it was a shitty decision to give the title to franco with his gyno and small legs.. and i said many times that victor was much better than jay in 2007!!.. i even made a thread wondering how judges were doing their job to make jay win the olympia in 2007 and put dex. in the 3rd place then in the next year to give the title to dex (who looked the exact same as 2007) over an improved jay!!.. no logic at all!!.. and i said many times that the only mr. o. who deserved all his wins among those who won more than 5 times was lee haney.. both dorian and ronnie didnt deserve many of their wins!!..
you assholes dont care when i defend other bbs who were robbed but i become a pain in your asses only when i talk about nasser!!..
im not even trying to be a smartass
but really............i think we know your fucking opinion at this point
your opinion about everything is "NASSER WAS ROBBED"
like we fucking get it man, honestly, we all know your POV.......
who won the 1996 olympia?......nasser was robbed
who wont hte 1997 olympia?.....nasser was robbed
who won the french-indian war.....nasser was robbed...........oh wait
we get it...
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im not even trying to be a smartass
but really............i think we know your fucking opinion at this point
your opinion about everything is "NASSER WAS ROBBED"
like we fucking get it man, honestly, we all know your POV.......
who won the 1996 olympia?......nasser was robbed
who wont hte 1997 olympia?.....nasser was robbed
who won the french-indian war.....nasser was robbed...........oh wait
we get it...
Also.....Sherif has a hard time digesting the concept that you can be of two minds.
Yes....Nasser might have gotten the shaft, doesn't mean Sherif isn't an obsessed weirdo
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Also.....Sherif has a hard time digesting the concept that you can be of two minds.
Yes....Nasser might have gotten the shaft, doesn't mean Sherif isn't an obsessed weirdo
Sherief is a "Put tha lotion in tha basket" type of dude.
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Also.....Sherif has a hard time digesting the concept that you can be of two minds.
Yes....Nasser might have gotten the shaft, doesn't mean Sherif isn't an obsessed weirdo
lol....right
he cant seem to be able to seperate being an objective impartial observer........as compared to a creepy ghoul feeding a very unhealthy man-crush
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Got to say that Nasser looks better in most of those shots.
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lol....right
he cant seem to be able to seperate being an objective impartial observer........as compared to a creepy ghoul feeding a very unhealthy man-crush
You'll also notice that you can't have a "normal' conversation with him....there is always the agenda.
He never stops Nassturbating
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You'll also notice that you can't have a "normal' conversation with him....there is always the agenda.
He never stops Nassturbating
havent heard that one yet......nice :D :D
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I'm with you Sherief. You're a very intelligent and articulate poster and I respect your comments. They never feel biased to me. You just say it as you see it and I see it the same as you. Dorian 92-95 was deserving of his wins. 96-97 Dorian was not. The fact that he was awarded 1st place does not mean he was the best man those 2 respective nights and MANY people share that opinion, myself included.
many thx bro., no asslicking from my side but i too always like your posts even when we dont agree because you too are one of the rare ppl here who say it as they see it and not just another parrot who repeats what others say!!..
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havent heard that one yet......nice :D :D
I made it up before.
I say we use it liberally :D
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Whose gimmick are you?
no ones lol
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You'll also notice that you can't have a "normal' conversation with him....there is always the agenda.
He never stops Nassturbating
thx for the laugh ;D
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??? I didn't even know there was such a thing as straight firsts in bodybuilding. There is a lot about this sport of men in thongs I have yet to learn.
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??? I didn't even know there was such a thing as straight firsts in bodybuilding. There is a lot about this sport of men in thongs I have yet to learn.
I agree.
Can someone please explain what straight firsts are, and how these things are judged???
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nasser failed the drug test in 1996 guys so he couldn't have won it anyway.
1996
Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, Disqualified
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I agree.
Can someone please explain what straight firsts are, and how these things are judged???
it means to be chosen as no. 1 by all judges in all rounds, prejudging, muscularity, posing routine, and. final!!..
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nasser failed the drug test in 1996 guys so he couldn't have won it anyway.
1996
Grand Prix Czech Republic - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Germany - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Russia - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Spain - IFBB, 3rd
Grand Prix Switzerland - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, Disqualified
but nasser and his team dont accept this because jay cutler failed the same test in 2001 and his 2nd place is still valid!!.. so for us nasser should have won mr. olympia 96!! 8)
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actually it was a double injustice as i call it on nasser's facebook page!!.. firstly they placed him 3rd although he was the clear winner and secondly they disqualified him for failing the same drug test jay failed in 2001!!..
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but nasser and his team dont accept this because jay cutler failed the same test in 2001 and his 2nd place is still valid!!.. so for us nasser should have won mr. olympia 96!! 8)
Nothing against Nasser, but Jay took the initiative to challenge his false positive and won!
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but nasser and his team dont accept this because jay cutler failed the same test in 2001 and his 2nd place is still valid!!.. so for us nasser should have won mr. olympia 96!! 8)
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL :D :D :D :D :D
We'll be sure and pass this info on to the judges..........14 years later.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL :D :D :D :D :D
We'll be sure and pass this info on to the judges..........14 years later.
i already e-mailed all the judges of that day about this and sent to each of them separately the original docs via fedex :-X
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I agree.
Can someone please explain what straight firsts are, and how these things are judged???
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/dungeon1986/1995%20oooooooooolympia/31.jpg)
basically the lower the better, and the minimum you can get is 5. so straight 1sts are 5's across the score sheet just like dorian did here in 1995. ;D 8)
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i already e-mailed all the judges of that day about this and sent to each of them separately the original docs anthrax via fedex :-X
Fixed for team terrorist.
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but nasser and his team dont accept this because jay cutler failed the same test in 2001 and his 2nd place is still valid!!.. so for us nasser should have won mr. olympia 96!! 8)
Which is exactly why Nasser and his ' team ' are fucking idiots and the difference is Jay found a loop-hole and for all of his brilliance that the ' team ' claims , Nasser didn't find a loop-hole and in the end he wasn't the ' clear winner ' he was a distant 3rd these are facts and as usual the ' team ' hates them
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i am just saying my neutral opinion, what is your problem?..
Neutral my ass.....you're a flag-waving Arab who would pick Nasser over his own family
Get the f'ck out of here with that Neutral shit....
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Looks like Nasser and Ray both beat him to me. Yates doesn't really look too great there. His wins must have been all business and politics, his later ones at least.
I agree 100%
Add this to 94 and 97.
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hmmm really I always thought this was a blow out by Dorian, I don't even see Nasser or Shawn coming close to the completeness of Dorian :-X :-X
I still don't get how you call a bodybuilder with a torn bicep complete.
And if the torn bicep is not enough, see how small his arms look compared to his torso, see how his chest looks compared to his width, his quads, etc.
Take all of that and compare it with either Shawn or Nasser and you'll see why a lot of people here think Dorian shouldn't have won.
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Too bad Nasser was DQ'd that year for popping on the test... lol! Thats why everyone was down in size that year. ;D
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http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?c=Olympia+-+IFBB&y=1996
Check that out.
Nasser Dq'd in 96 for failing the test, I believe it was for Diuretics.
LOL!!!!
1 Dorian Yates
2 Shawn Ray
3 Kevin Levrone
4 Ken Wheeler (Flex)
5 Paul Dillett
6 Ronnie Coleman
7 Chris Cormier
8 Jean Pierre Fux
9 Charles Clairmonte
10 Michael Francois
11 Aaron Baker
12 Roland Cziurlock
13 Mike Matarazzo
DQ Nasser El Sonbaty
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Dorian is destroying that line up even with a torn arm. Imagine how much more dominant he'd have been, without an injury :o
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Dorian is destroying that line up even with a torn arm. Imagine how much more dominant he'd have been, without an injury :o
Agreed kiwi.....You can also see Nasser's terrible structure very clearly there.
LOOOOONG ass torso, stubby little legs, wide hips. also the obvious site injections in his lats give them a weird look, like bruised meat.
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Here is the video from 96. Dorian clearly deserved straight 1sts.
Part 2 starts around 2:30 and gets to comparisons of the top 3 whcih continue in part 3 below.
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I agree 100%
Add this to 94 and 97.
94?? dorian dominated in 94, no one was even close to dorian . Even with the newly torn bicep he was just to big, balanced, and conditioned.
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Agreed kiwi.....You can also see Nasser's terrible structure very clearly there.
LOOOOONG ass torso, stubby little legs, wide hips. also the obvious site injections in his lats give them a weird look, like bruised meat.
Sherief has been notified of this post and will soon respond like the national emergency it is ;D
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Dorian won hands down. There are many competitors who deserved an Olympia more than Nasser.
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Dorian won hands down. There are many competitors who deserved an Olympia more than Nasser.
Agreed. Shawn Ray, possibly.
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I still don't get how you call a bodybuilder with a torn bicep complete.
And if the torn bicep is not enough, see how small his arms look compared to his torso, see how his chest looks compared to his width, his quads, etc.
Take all of that and compare it with either Shawn or Nasser and you'll see why a lot of people here think Dorian shouldn't have won.
Shawn and Nasser are missing things as well I could point them out if need be? and when all things are considered Dorian was the clear winner in 1996 , you can haggle about 97 but 96 was no contest
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Shawn and Nasser are missing things as well I could point them out if need be? and when all things are considered Dorian was the clear winner in 1996 , you can haggle about 97 but 96 was no contest
Dont forget Nasser was dq'd
NASSER=DQ'd ;D
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Dont forget Nasser was dq'd
NASSER=DQ'd ;D
Exactly and he wasn't even second never mind fucking first ;D
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Shawn and Nasser are missing things as well I could point them out if need be? and when all things are considered Dorian was the clear winner in 1996 , you can haggle about 97 but 96 was no contest
Exactly....those screen caps don't show any back poses.
Once the judges turned the contestants around that contest was over.
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As I've said previously, I attended that show.
When they first walked out, Nasser looked awesome in the standing relaxed position from the front. When they turned around, people laughed at how ridiculous Yates looked. You may hear a smattering of boos on tape, but nobody there was disputing Yates' win. He just looked better that day.
Read the show recaps - were there lots of writers calling it a fix? Where there any? Probably not. Dorian dominated and won again.
But, as usual, the judges apparently aren't as good at judging the contest as those are who view blurry pics over the internet, or were part of the world wide conspiracy to make a British native the Mr. O, since apparently there's some sort of financial windfall associated with that.
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The only pose Dorian arguably loses in the video is the FDB, and only Nasser beats him there. The video is much better than selected screen caps.
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As I've said previously, I attended that show.
When they first walked out, Nasser looked awesome in the standing relaxed position from the front. When they turned around, people laughed at how ridiculous Yates looked. You may hear a smattering of boos on tape, but nobody there was disputing Yates' win. He just looked better that day.
Read the show recaps - were there lots of writers calling it a fix? Where there any? Probably not. Dorian dominated and won again.
But, as usual, the judges apparently aren't as good at judging the contest as those are who view blurry pics over the internet, or were part of the world wide conspiracy to make a British native the Mr. O, since apparently there's some sort of financial windfall associated with that.
Peter McGough on Dorian at the 1996 Mr Olympia
Dorian Yates : The man was in situ was rock hard . His 257 pounds were augmented by an improved waist taper , His damaged left biceps has filled out remarkably and the only negative is that he could have been fuller in the thighs. But with his blend of size , symmetry , detail and condition , he was equipped to resist every challenge . At 3:25 p.m. as Yates completed the individual mandatories , the fat lady left the dressing room.
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As I've said previously, I attended that show.
When they first walked out, Nasser looked awesome in the standing relaxed position from the front. When they turned around, people laughed at how ridiculous Yates looked. You may hear a smattering of boos on tape, but nobody there was disputing Yates' win. He just looked better that day.
Read the show recaps - were there lots of writers calling it a fix? Where there any? Probably not. Dorian dominated and won again.
But, as usual, the judges apparently aren't as good at judging the contest as those are who view blurry pics over the internet, or were part of the world wide conspiracy to make a British native the Mr. O, since apparently there's some sort of financial windfall associated with that.
Very true....i was at the 98 Olympia when Ronnie owned Nasser, and when Nasser turned around the crowd started laughing as well...but not for the same reasons :D
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Very true....i was at the 98 Olympia when Ronnie owned Nasser, and when Nasser turned around the crowd started laughing as well...but not for the same reasons :D
You do realize your gonna have some Jihadists knock on you door soon right?
then.. BOOM... there goes Groink .... =(
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ok no one answered my question, did he get straight 5's across the scoresheet??? ??? ???
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Shawn and Nasser are missing things as well I could point them out if need be? and when all things are considered Dorian was the clear winner in 1996 , you can haggle about 97 but 96 was no contest
Of course Shawn and Nasser were missing thing too, I mean there is no "perfect" bodybuilder with no flaws at all and there never was. But what I'm trying to say is that Shawn and maybe Nasser had less flaws than Dorian, they came the closest to a complete physique.
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Of course Shawn and Nasser were missing thing too, I mean there is no "perfect" bodybuilder with no flaws at all and there never was. But what I'm trying to say is that Shawn and maybe Nasser had less flaws than Dorian, they came the closest to a complete physique.
The judges thought otherwise and in the end only they matter.
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The judges thought otherwise and in the end only they matter.
True, but don't you think judging criteria can be a bit incorrect at times?
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True, but don't you think judging criteria can be a bit incorrect at times?
the criteria? no