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Title: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: Hulkotron on March 23, 2010, 03:03:10 PM
The NFL finally changed their overtime rules for the playoffs.  No more sudden death.

The Vikings got buttfucked by sudden death this recent post-season.
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 23, 2010, 03:03:48 PM
The NFL finally changed their overtime rules for the playoffs.  No more sudden death.

The Vikings got buttfucked by sudden death this recent post-season.
Whats the new rule?
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: dov on March 23, 2010, 03:05:11 PM
Whats the new rule?
sounds like they'll both "buttfuck" each other and then go and drank some beers
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: G_Thang on March 23, 2010, 03:05:36 PM
The NFL finally changed their overtime rules for the playoffs.  No more sudden death.

The Vikings got buttfucked by sudden death this recent post-season.

everybody was f##k when the nfl called the saints america's team.  amazing how dallas is america's team after the superbowl again.  

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Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: dov on March 23, 2010, 03:07:45 PM
everybody was f##k when the nfl called the saints america's team.  amazing how dallas is america's team after the superbowl again.  

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You're really hung up on this "America's Team" shit still, huh? Maybe Cowboys and Saints will have chance to buttfuck each other in playoffs
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: newmom on March 23, 2010, 03:10:04 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5022064
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: Wiggs on March 23, 2010, 03:11:40 PM
About fucking time.
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: Hulkotron on March 23, 2010, 03:12:47 PM
Whats the new rule?

Both teams get a chance on offense unless the team that wins the coin toss scores a TD on the first possession.  If the team that wins the coin toss scores a field goal on their first possession, rather than the game ending, the other team gets one possession.  If they then kick a field goal too, it turns into sudden death.  If the score is still tied after 15 minutes of OT, then it becomes sudden death.

Here's the ESPN story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5022064

This is great, maybe all the "hurf durf if u want to win then play defense" apologists will stfu now.  Sudden death was so stupid and completely changed the dynamics of the game in OT.  This isn't perfect but it's at least a little better imo.
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: big L dawg on March 23, 2010, 04:27:09 PM
yea no shit all praise be to allah for this rule change...
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: SaltShaker on March 23, 2010, 04:49:59 PM
The NFL finally changed their overtime rules for the playoffs.  No more sudden death.

The Vikings got buttfucked by sudden death this recent post-season Favre choking and fucking up again when it counts most.

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Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 11:53:52 AM
The NFL finally changed their overtime rules for the playoffs.  No more sudden death.

The Vikings got buttfucked by sudden death this recent post-season.

No, they didn't! It ain't the Saints fault that the Vikings can't play DEFENSE.

Apparently, some folks have a short memory. Did you forget that just two weeks prior, the Packer-Cardinals game went into overtime?

The Packers won the toss; BUT THEY LOST THE GAME. Why?

Despite giving up points, left and right, when it came crunch time, the Cardinals' DEFENSE stripped Rodgers of the ball and scored....GAME OVER!!!

If you lose the toss, PLAY DEFENSE!!!

This rule change is STUPID!! Why is it that people can't play football, anymore?
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: The Showstoppa on March 25, 2010, 11:59:08 AM
Should have kept it simple....both teams get at least one possession. 
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 11:59:26 AM
Both teams get a chance on offense unless the team that wins the coin toss scores a TD on the first possession.  If the team that wins the coin toss scores a field goal on their first possession, rather than the game ending, the other team gets one possession.  If they then kick a field goal too, it turns into sudden death.  If the score is still tied after 15 minutes of OT, then it becomes sudden death.

Here's the ESPN story: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5022064

This is great, maybe all the "hurf durf if u want to win then play defense" apologists will stfu now.  Sudden death was so stupid and completely changed the dynamics of the game in OT.  This isn't perfect but it's at least a little better imo.

Don't bet on it!! All the whining about the team winning the toss always winning the game is BOGUS, especially given the 2009 stats. If I'm not mistaken it was 54-46, as far as percentages go.

Again, go back to the NFC Wildcard Game, between the Packers and Cardinals. The Cardinals didn't win the toss, but they won the game.

The NFL keeps getting wimpier with each passing year.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on March 25, 2010, 11:59:53 AM
No, they didn't! It ain't the Saints fault that the Vikings can't play DEFENSE.

Apparently, some folks have a short memory. Did you forget that just two weeks prior, the Packer-Cardinals game went into overtime?

The Packers won the toss; BUT THEY LOST THE GAME. Why?

Despite giving up points, left and right, when it came crunch time, the Cardinals' DEFENSE stripped Rodgers of the ball and scored....GAME OVER!!!

If you lose the toss, PLAY DEFENSE!!!

This rule change is STUPID!! Why is it that people can't play football, anymore?

Bullshit.  What they need to do is play one more 10 minute quarter. These overpaid fucks should shut their mouths and play.  Letting a kicker nail a 50 yarder is a lame way to lose in OT.

Problem is OT in the playoffs is not that common, there's been 14 games in a long time that went to OT in the playoffs and the team that won the coin toss is only 7-7.  It's in the regular season that there's an issue where the team that won the coin toss won close to 70% of the time.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 12:06:18 PM
Bullshit.  What they need to do is play one more 10 minute quarter. These overpaid fucks should shut their mouths and play.  Letting a kicker nail a 50 yarder is a lame way to lose in OT.

They play one 15-minute quarter in regulation and the quarter continued, until one team scored.

I remember one of my favorite games back on 2005 (Bucs v. Falcons). The Bucs won the toss but fumbled the kickoff deep in their own territory. The Falcons recovered and were in FG range. But, the FG got BLOCKED. Then the BUCS drove down the field, only to miss a FG.

That game went down to the final 20 seconds, before Matt Bryant kicked the game-winner.




Problem is OT in the playoffs is not that common, there's been 14 games in a long time that went to OT in the playoffs and the team that won the coin toss is only 7-7.  It's in the regular season that there's an issue where the team that won the coin toss won close to 70% of the time.

No, it's not. I just mentioned that earlier. This past season, it was 54% of the time that the team that won the toss won the game. And, in a lot of those games, the winning team didn't score on the first possession.

What Hoge said was that, 70% of the time, OT ends in a FG.

I think this was a big mistake. Sudden death brings up the intensity of the game, especially if you're on defense. And, that's what supposedly separates the NFL from college.

Take the greatest comeback in NFL history (Bills-Oilers, '92). That went to OT. The Oilers won the toss. But, Warren Moon threw a pick. The Bills got in FG range and drilled the game-winner.

Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 12:13:06 PM
Personally, I think this is all about the NFL's lovefest with Brett Favre. Had this happened to any other QB, we'd hear nary a peep about changing the rule.

Funny how nobody complains about sudden-death OT, when their teams WIN in such a format.

Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: The Showstoppa on March 25, 2010, 12:17:33 PM
Personally, I think this is all about the NFL's lovefest with Brett Favre. Had this happened to any other QB, we'd hear nary a peep about changing the rule.

Funny how nobody complains about sudden-death OT, when their teams WIN in such a format.



Huh?  I don't think it has anything to do with Favre.  If that were the case, they should be re-writing the cheap shots to the QB rule to apply to him, as well as Brady.....he got killed in that playoff game.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 12:23:55 PM
Huh?  I don't think it has anything to do with Favre.  If that were the case, they should be re-writing the cheap shots to the QB rule to apply to him, as well as Brady.....he got killed in that playoff game.

I mentioned Favre, because of ALL the complaints about the NFC title game, which Favre LOST. Again, nobody cried about sudden-death OT, when the Cardinals beat the Packers, two weeks earlier (even though the Cardinals lost the toss).

And, it just so happens that Favre has lost two NFC title games in three years (granted, Favre and the Packers won the toss in that one).
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 25, 2010, 12:24:09 PM
if peyton had been successful on that driver where he got picked off, we were heading for a super bowl that would have been decided by a coin flip, most likely.

that would have been a nightmare for such an awesome matchup, brees and manning.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 12:26:49 PM
if peyton had been successful on that driver where he got picked off, we were heading for a super bowl that would have been decided by a coin flip, most likely.

that would have been a nightmare for such an awesome matchup, brees and manning.

Not really!!  Again, see the Packers-Cardinals game, during those same playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: G_Thang on March 25, 2010, 12:27:38 PM
if peyton had been successful on that driver where he got picked off, we were heading for a super bowl that would have been decided by a coin flip, most likely.

that would have been a nightmare for such an awesome matchup, brees and manning.

if that thing was 24-24...penalties (killing any Indy drive) in OT would have insured a saints win.  people really believe the nfl was going to pass on this story line (katrina, the feel good story, we donated 30M to keep the team in town, america's team  ::), etc)  finish for the saints.  FIX.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 12:30:31 PM
if that thing was 24-24...penalties (killing any Indy drive) in OT would have insured a saints win.  people really believe the nfl was going to pass on this story line (katrina, the feel good story, we donated 30M to keep the team in town, america's team  ::), etc)  finish for the saints.  FIX.

Two games, with major offensive fireworks, went to OT in 2009 playoffs. It was a 50-50 SPLIT. Packers won the toss but lost on a turnover and defensive score. Saints won the toss and scored on their first possession.

Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: G_Thang on March 25, 2010, 12:45:59 PM
Two games, with major offensive fireworks, went to OT in 2009 playoffs. It was a 50-50 SPLIT. Packers won the toss but lost on a turnover and defensive score. Saints won the toss and scored on their first possession.



thanks.  every play in nfl as they say the refs can call a holding call so they pic when the time is right or miss an obivous.  nba good at it too.  who wanted to see utah win when jordan goes 6-0 for the sake of nike n ratings.



NA = Kings of Media Propaganda n Fixes
Title: Re: THANK GOD
Post by: jtsunami on March 25, 2010, 12:54:52 PM
yea no shit all praise be to allah for this rule change...

x2 Allah will make all things correct in the end.

Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 12:57:25 PM
thanks.  every play in nfl as they say the refs can call a holding call so they pic when the time is right or miss an obivous.  nba good at it too.  who wanted to see utah win when jordan goes 6-0 for the sake of nike n ratings.



NA = Kings of Media Propaganda n Fixes

I've heard Packer fans complain about a facemask on the play where Rodgers coughs up the ball., allowing Dansby to score the game-winning TD.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: G_Thang on March 25, 2010, 02:39:16 PM
I've heard Packer fans complain about a facemask on the play where Rodgers coughs up the ball., allowing Dansby to score the game-winning TD.

nope...there is no legacy, greatness, mega-ratings or story in that game.  who cares?  try elway winning his first superbowl with an obvious clip which sprung Terrell Davis for the winning score, 28-21.  refs turned ahead big time on that one.  FIX.

   
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: Hulkotron on March 25, 2010, 03:25:03 PM
Bullshit.  What they need to do is play one more 10 minute quarter. These overpaid fucks should shut their mouths and play.  Letting a kicker nail a 50 yarder is a lame way to lose in OT.

This is 100% correct.  The new system is better than the old one at least, but I don't know why they can't just keep playing the game the same exact way for a little longer, like every other major sport.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: K-1 on March 25, 2010, 03:27:33 PM
No, they didn't! It ain't the Saints fault that the Vikings can't play DEFENSE.

Apparently, some folks have a short memory. Did you forget that just two weeks prior, the Packer-Cardinals game went into overtime?

The Packers won the toss; BUT THEY LOST THE GAME. Why?

Despite giving up points, left and right, when it came crunch time, the Cardinals' DEFENSE stripped Rodgers of the ball and scored....GAME OVER!!!

If you lose the toss, PLAY DEFENSE!!!

This rule change is STUPID!! Why is it that people can't play football, anymore?

THIS!
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: Hulkotron on March 25, 2010, 03:33:58 PM
Personally, I think this is all about the NFL's lovefest with Brett Favre. Had this happened to any other QB, we'd hear nary a peep about changing the rule.

Funny how nobody complains about sudden-death OT, when their teams WIN in such a format.

MCWAY you are exactly the kind of "durrrr then play defense urf urf urf" idiot that I'm talking about.  The NFL did not change their rules because of BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE and Vikings fan sour grapes.  I am not a MN fan by the way, I just hate sudden death in football.  They changed it because sudden death is a terrible system that completely changes the dynamics of the game.  30% of the time the team that loses the toss doesn't even get to possess the ball in overtime and you get great games like NO-MN decided by the toss-winning team driving 50 yards and kicking.  If you don't see a problem there then I don't know what to tell you.

Ideally they would just play another 5 or 10 minutes or whatever and I don't see why this cannot be done, but the new system is an improvement at least.

THIS!

Saints defense played great in OT, pitched a shutout!
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: Earl1972 on March 25, 2010, 03:35:43 PM
The NFL finally changed their overtime rules for the playoffs.  No more sudden death.

The Vikings got buttfucked by sudden death this recent post-season.

actually your overrated attention whore qb threw another int in another critical time in the game

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Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: Hulkotron on March 25, 2010, 03:37:16 PM
actually your overrated attention whore qb threw another int in another critical time in the game

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I'm not a Vikings fan you moron.  Go back to sniffing Kevin Levrone's testicles.

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Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: Earl1972 on March 25, 2010, 05:18:49 PM
I'm not a Vikings fan you moron.  Go back to sniffing Kevin Levrone's testicles.

H

well i guess i assumed you were, i thought only they would be dumb enough to think that they got "butt fucked" but i guess i underestimated your stupidity

carry on now :-*

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Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 09:18:54 PM
MCWAY you are exactly the kind of "durrrr then play defense urf urf urf" idiot that I'm talking about.  The NFL did not change their rules because of BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE BRETT FAVRE and Vikings fan sour grapes.  I am not a MN fan by the way, I just hate sudden death in football.  They changed it because sudden death is a terrible system that completely changes the dynamics of the game.  30% of the time the team that loses the toss doesn't even get to possess the ball in overtime and you get great games like NO-MN decided by the toss-winning team driving 50 yards and kicking.  If you don't see a problem there then I don't know what to tell you.

And, you are exactly the king of amensia-stricken poster, which I described earlier. The 70% stat refers to the number of OT games that end in a FG.

The actual stats ARE: From 1974 to 2009, there have been 445 games. 240 have been won by the team winning the toss (54%); 188 have been won by the team losing the toss (42%) and 17 have ended in a tie (4%).

http://article.wn.com/view/2010/03/18/NFL_2010_Overtime_Game_Summary_19742009_NFL_Statistics/ (http://article.wn.com/view/2010/03/18/NFL_2010_Overtime_Game_Summary_19742009_NFL_Statistics/)



You forgot that JUST TWO WEEKS PRIOR, we had the Packers-Cardinals game. Losing the toss didn't keep the  Cardinals from winning. And that game had EVEN MORE OFFENSE than the NFC title game did.

Guess what!! When crunch time hit, the Cardinals DEFENSE made the play, stripped Rodgers of the ball, scored on defense and won.

And you also DUCKED the fact that, this past season, it went 54-46 as far as teams winning the toss on OT going on to win the game. If that weren't enough, of those that won the coin toss, several DID NOT WIN on the first possession.


Ideally they would just play another 5 or 10 minutes or whatever and I don't see why this cannot be done, but the new system is an improvement at least.

Saints defense played great in OT, pitched a shutout!

This isn't an improvement at all. Nothing puts more pressure on the game than knowing that it's really do-or-die.

If your team's sorry defense can't make the save, TOO BAD!!!

The Cardinals defense got shredded all game long in the Wildcard round.....BUT it managed to get the win, when it mattered most.

Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 09:34:32 PM
Of the 445 games played in OT (with sudden-death rules) 310 had each team possess the bal at least one.....THAT'S SEVENTY (70) PERCENT OF THE TIME!

Only 135 times (or 30%) did the team winning the toss score on the first possession.

In the 2009 season, there were 13 OT games: 6 of those were won by the team THAT LOST THE COIN FLIP. And 2 were won by the team that won the toss BUT DIDN'T SCORE on the first possession.

Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: 240 is Back on March 25, 2010, 09:35:18 PM
stats aside.... if ONE great super bowel is weakened by a few short passes and a chip shot field goal, it would suck.

this is a good rule.  Field goals suck, anyway.  They should just end them, and make the teams go for the TD every time.
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 09:42:03 PM
stats aside.... if ONE great super bowel is weakened by a few short passes and a chip shot field goal, it would suck.

this is a good rule.  Field goals suck, anyway.  They should just end them, and make the teams go for the TD every time.

What part of DEFENSE don't some people understand? There's no weakening of the Super Bowl, if it were to go sudden death. Man up and stop your opponents or you lose.

You could just as easily have a Packer-Cardinal scenario, where the team that wins the coin toss turns it over and the defense scores.


And who can forget Matt Hasselback of the Seattle Seahawks in that 2003 playoff game against Green Bay? He proclaims that he wanted the ball, because he and the 'Hawks were going to score. Next thing you know, Hasselback gets picked off by Al Harris, who took it to the house....GAME OVER!!!
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 25, 2010, 09:44:42 PM
There's another doozey that I forgot.......How about the Panthers-Rams from those same 2003 playoffs.....DOUBLE OVERTIME (in sudden death rules)!!!
Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 26, 2010, 10:41:08 AM
Here's perhaps the longest game in NFL regular season history that DIDN'T end in a tie.







Title: Re: NFL - Thank God! No more sudden death.
Post by: MCWAY on March 26, 2010, 10:43:45 AM