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Title: time traveler?
Post by: HTexan on March 23, 2010, 10:57:32 PM
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Post by: titusisback on March 23, 2010, 10:59:09 PM
let me help you Mr. Fail
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Post by: HTexan on March 23, 2010, 11:00:18 PM
let me help you Mr. Fail
i fixed it in 1 minute wtf ;D
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Post by: ShipSekki on March 23, 2010, 11:01:32 PM
 So where is this picture from?

 Give us a little god damn info on this please.
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Post by: HTexan on March 23, 2010, 11:04:14 PM
So where is this picture from?

 Give us a little god damn info on this please.
its from 1941. dude has a silkscreen t-shirt on.
http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=record_detail&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000470&hs=0&rd=117666
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Post by: ShipSekki on March 23, 2010, 11:06:06 PM
He probably was a time traveler. They are everywhere.
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Post by: James Blunt on March 23, 2010, 11:10:01 PM
This is a cool photo.

Good old Michio Kaku dumbing down a few theories on time travel.

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Post by: benchmstr on March 23, 2010, 11:13:33 PM
Date rape drugs work just as well as time travel....

Bench
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Post by: James Blunt on March 23, 2010, 11:26:34 PM
There doesn't seem to be any fat people in this photo.  I was in Safeway earlier and about 4 out of 6 were fat. Fatties everywhere. Not just skinny fat but fat as fuck (no offense just an observation). Strange how times can change so drastically.
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Post by: ShipSekki on March 23, 2010, 11:28:27 PM
There doesn't seem to be any fat people in this photo.  I was in Safeway earlier and about 4 out of 6 were fat. Fatties everywhere. Not just skinny fat but fat as fuck (no offense just an observation). Strange how times can change so drastically.

 Are you from the Midwest or the South?
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Post by: James Blunt on March 23, 2010, 11:34:14 PM
Are you from the Midwest or the South?
About as northwest as you can get.
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Post by: HTexan on March 23, 2010, 11:39:51 PM
There doesn't seem to be any fat people in this photo.  I was in Safeway earlier and about 4 out of 6 were fat. Fatties everywhere. Not just skinny fat but fat as fuck (no offense just an observation). Strange how times can change so drastically.
duh, only in-shape healthily people can meet the demands of time travel.
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Post by: Nomad_Warrior on March 23, 2010, 11:43:53 PM
(http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/CommunityMemories/ABYC/000a/image/original/ABYC000a00fa.jpg)

Fucking crazy.  Are you sure this pic was not photoshoped?  That T-shirt definately looks silkscreened. Also he appears to wearing a hoodie, did tohose exist in 1940? Notice his sic ass time-travel sunglasses and the modern looking camera he is holding.
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Post by: disco_stu on March 24, 2010, 02:53:50 AM
He probably was a time traveler. They are everywhere.

i agree.. i saw this old guy at the shops the other day with pants, a belt, and a cardigan on looking all confused n shit.
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Post by: wes on March 24, 2010, 03:40:27 AM
Falcons father...............inv entor of time travel.

Very rare pic.
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Post by: webcake on March 24, 2010, 03:42:31 AM
I went to an amish farm once...........time travel is entirely possible.
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Post by: JasonH on March 24, 2010, 03:59:37 AM
I've seen this before - it's a real photo but the guy in it is just some trendy guy who was obviously ahead of his time - cameras did exist back then but not a lot of people had them - the clothes are nothing special either - it's his hair that gives it away - it isn't gelled or has any sort of product on it - if he was from the future he'd most likely have stuff on it.
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Post by: Mr. Magoo on March 24, 2010, 04:29:23 AM
I've seen this before - it's a real photo but the guy in it is just some trendy guy who was obviously ahead of his time - cameras did exist back then but not a lot of people had them - the clothes are nothing special either - it's his hair that gives it away - it isn't gelled or has any sort of product on it - if he was from the future he'd most likely have stuff on it.

I disagree, the "trendy" guy in the photo is the dude on the left

Also, I find it odd that nobody is looking at the cameraman
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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 24, 2010, 05:51:43 AM
Falcons father...............inv entor of time travel.

Very rare pic.
;D
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Post by: saopl on March 24, 2010, 06:07:19 AM
lol retards
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Post by: JasonH on March 24, 2010, 07:19:45 AM
I disagree, the "trendy" guy in the photo is the dude on the left

Also, I find it odd that nobody is looking at the cameraman

Why do you find that odd? It's obvious that they're all looking at something more interesting.
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Post by: Mr. Magoo on March 24, 2010, 07:26:43 AM
Why do you find that odd? It's obvious that they're all looking at something more interesting.

they're not all looking at the same one thing, even the "future" guy seems to be staring at the woman in front of him

 I just think there would be at least one person looking at the camera, judging by all the old photos I've seen
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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 24, 2010, 07:39:53 AM
 ;)
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Post by: johnnynoname on March 24, 2010, 08:16:32 AM
(http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/CommunityMemories/ABYC/000a/image/original/ABYC000a00fa.jpg)

is that sasha baron cohen?
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Post by: JasonH on March 24, 2010, 08:34:09 AM
they're not all looking at the same one thing, even the "future" guy seems to be staring at the woman in front of him
 I just think there would be at least one person looking at the camera, judging by all the old photos I've seen

How can you tell that when he's wearing sunglasses?
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Post by: James Blunt on March 24, 2010, 10:10:44 AM
The photo is at the reopening of a bridge. I imagine they're all generally focused on the bridge. It's not odd no one is looking at the camera. It's common for people to be photographed like this. Especially in newspapers.
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Post by: noworries on March 24, 2010, 10:19:33 AM
I was able to find another photo that shows what everyone is looking at.  It appears Goodrum is alot older than we think.
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Post by: JasonH on March 24, 2010, 10:22:14 AM
Oh dear, that poor goat.  :'(
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Post by: stuntmovie on March 24, 2010, 10:27:52 AM
According to some Quantum Mechanic theorists, time travel will soon be possible but it will take too long to get there and it's more convenient just to sit around and wait.

Others say  that time travel is an impossibility and that the proof is in the pudding ..... meaning that no one from the future  has paid us a visit just yet.

My belief is that they will arrive tomorrow.

Or the next day.

All serious shit that smart guys sit and think about.

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Post by: stuntmovie on March 24, 2010, 10:36:14 AM
James Blunt, those fat people you met at SAFEWAY are possibly time travelers from the future.

Did you ask?

When in doubt .... always ask!

DI's always say that there is no such thing as a stupid question. (End of DI statement)

But you should always be prepared to duck fast when you ask one. (End of voice of experience)
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Post by: no one on March 24, 2010, 10:56:25 AM
According to some Quantum Mechanic theorists, time travel will soon be possible but it will take too long to get there and it's more convenient just to sit around and wait.

Others say  that time travel is an impossibility and that the proof is in the pudding ..... meaning that no one from the future  has paid us a visit just yet.

My belief is that they will arrive tomorrow.

Or the next day.

All serious shit that smart guys sit and think about.



ah, but how do we know they haven't?

they wouldn't be able to tell us they were from the future as it would alter events from that point on, thereby changing the future, and possibly not allowing them to ever return to the time period from which they left.

;)
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Post by: Mr. Magoo on March 24, 2010, 10:59:17 AM
ah, but how do we know they haven't?

they wouldn't be able to tell us they were from the future as it would alter events from that point on, thereby changing the future, and possibly not allowing them to ever return to the time period from which they left.

;)

maybe someone you've met in your lifetime was actually from the future

 :o
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Post by: Mr Nobody on March 24, 2010, 11:01:05 AM
maybe someone you've met in your lifetime was actually from the future

 :o
Yep nice post.
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Post by: no one on March 24, 2010, 11:03:11 AM
maybe someone you've met in your lifetime was actually from the future

 :o

shits getting deep now.

maybe those people you have met direct you onto a path where the future will unfold as it should, instead of allowing you to make your own decisions and fuck everything up.

wait a minute...

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosuvf7Unmg)
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Post by: dr.chimps on March 24, 2010, 11:07:58 AM
 :)
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Post by: stuntmovie on March 24, 2010, 11:14:47 AM
Good thought and well stated, NoOne!

Let me try to explain what is damn near impossible to even contemplate let along write about on a simple message board.

Try to think DEEP about the following.....

EVENTS do change very frequently. And those events do change because someone from the future came back and changed them without even thinking about it or knowing what they did.

And many time travelers do return into a time period which is completely unfamiliar to them. Years ago those time travelers were simply ignored or placed in mental institutions.

Some were even given lobotomies at government expense because they left their wallets in the future.

One such "looney" I recently associated with in one of our "get together" groups claims that most time travelers who return form the future and manage to "land back in" the same time zone from which he departed, somehow forgot about his time traveling experience due to some unknowm factor associated with time traveler.

But he further claims that there is only one language that is common to one and all in the future and is absolute proof that you have "been there, done that" if you can understand the following language and read it easily after a few moments of trying......

Give it a try yourself! You, yourself, might be one of those time travelers who has merely forgotten.

Here is the language..... This particular paragraph was written by one of the participants in the group after an hour or so discussion with the "looney" time traveler mentioned above.



I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the first and last ltteer be in the rghit pclae.. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can still raed it wouthit a porbelm. This is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

It seems that they solved the mis-spelling problem a few years hence.
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Post by: FREAKgeek on March 24, 2010, 11:22:30 AM
(http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/CommunityMemories/ABYC/000a/image/original/ABYC000a00fa.jpg)

He's got a digital watch on too, but in this pic you can't see it.
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Post by: dr.chimps on March 24, 2010, 11:34:18 AM
And many time travelers do return into a time period which is completely unfamiliar to them. Years ago those time travelers were simply ignored or placed in mental institutions.
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Post by: stuntmovie on March 24, 2010, 11:35:46 AM
Here's another deep thought thinker topic to deep think about.

When you read a book on QM, you come to realize that there is something called "Ulterior Universes".... It's been a while but I think that's what it's called.

This simply means that there are actually many of YOU at one time (OH< SHIT!) within different universes.

It gets a bit more complicated but here are the basics.......

Today you may decide to turn right when you leave your home.

In another 'universe' you will turn left.

And there are "YOU's" in millions of other universes doing something completely different (making different choices - not turning at all or not even going out) than the other "YOU's" in those other universes. And there are enough "YOU's" and universes to include each and every eventually.

This tends to be a bit like the Falcon way of thinking. He was sort of on the right track but his problem was that he keep thinking about stupid things instead of contemplating things of importance which you guys are sort of doing here.

Most of us will laugh about this shit but the real smart guys think about this stuff every day in clinical laboratories on the edge of every major US city. ANd hey do get heavy paychecks for thinking.

RIght now one of those guys is probably reading this and making $489 in the process.

Sorry that I did not explain the above too well but I my intelligence is completely limited when it comes to thinking over three feet deep while those other guys go down a mile or so.
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Post by: stuntmovie on March 24, 2010, 11:38:30 AM
I knew you'd do that, Dr.!
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Post by: Natural Man on March 24, 2010, 12:06:22 PM

here s a pic of the time machine.





(http://art2canvas.nuxit.net/pop-art/images/1238171962adobe_photoshop_cs2_2.jpg)
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Post by: LurkyLurker on March 24, 2010, 12:09:37 PM
Forget the guy in the sunglasses. I'm more interested in the physical anthropomorphism of God sneaking in there!

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Post by: dr.chimps on March 24, 2010, 12:12:53 PM
Forget the guy in the sunglasses. I'm more interested in the physical anthropomorphism of God sneaking in there!
Haha. Nice one. Looks like he's jacking off onto the skirt of the woman in front of him. Dirty brute.   
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Post by: stuntmovie on March 24, 2010, 12:19:55 PM
I don't see God but I do spy Nassar and my good friend Jack who passed away many years ago while filming The Sword and the Sorceror in Topanga Canyon. Not totally positive about that being him in that photo but it sure does look like him.

I would stick my neck out and say that this photo is definite proof that time travel does exist.

Or someone did a good job with PhotoShop.

But I'll stick with Time Travel because I don't know too much about PhotoShop to discuss it intelligently.

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Post by: Spoony Luv on March 24, 2010, 09:12:49 PM
The time traveler guy looks to have had some "work" done to his hairline...Possible grafts in the front...Maybe Chick can weigh in on this...
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Post by: TRIX on March 24, 2010, 09:30:18 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=325281.0;attach=364398;image)
nasser lol
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Post by: just_a_pilgrim on March 24, 2010, 09:37:39 PM
A good time travel movie is called 'Primer'. Very cheaply made but i liked it, takes a while to figure out.
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Post by: HTexan on March 25, 2010, 06:02:02 AM
Haha. Nice one. Looks like he's jacking off onto the skirt of the woman in front getting fuck by the guy behind him. Dirty brute.   
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Post by: no one on March 25, 2010, 06:14:06 AM
Here's another deep thought thinker topic to deep think about.

When you read a book on QM, you come to realize that there is something called "Ulterior Universes".... It's been a while but I think that's what it's called.

This simply means that there are actually many of YOU at one time (OH< SHIT!) within different universes.

It gets a bit more complicated but here are the basics.......

Today you may decide to turn right when you leave your home.

In another 'universe' you will turn left.

And there are "YOU's" in millions of other universes doing something completely different (making different choices - not turning at all or not even going out) than the other "YOU's" in those other universes. And there are enough "YOU's" and universes to include each and every eventually.

This tends to be a bit like the Falcon way of thinking. He was sort of on the right track but his problem was that he keep thinking about stupid things instead of contemplating things of importance which you guys are sort of doing here.

Most of us will laugh about this shit but the real smart guys think about this stuff every day in clinical laboratories on the edge of every major US city. ANd hey do get heavy paychecks for thinking.

RIght now one of those guys is probably reading this and making $489 in the process.

Sorry that I did not explain the above too well but I my intelligence is completely limited when it comes to thinking over three feet deep while those other guys go down a mile or so.

you explained fine as i know where you are coming from, someone who is trying to follow might get lost though as such a thing is very difficult to explain.

lisa randall is a particle physicist. she wrote a book called 'warped passages' in which she stipulates that apart from the 'big 4' dimensions as we know them there can exist up to 7, either so small or so vast we can't see or comprehend them, but they are there.

when you start getting into QM and the like for answers on one's search for the holy grail of 'why'- which at some point we all ask ourselves- things get very complicated, yet amazing simple at the same time. the ultimate paradox.

i used to hurt my head trying to figure out the 'meaning' of life. turns out the more i looked, the more questions i found. life is a beautiful mystery that i think is more enjoyed when taken at face value, rather than in trying to discover its secrets.


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Post by: stuntmovie on March 25, 2010, 09:11:43 AM
Thanks for jumping into the big Black Hole of QM, No One.

I love to discuss this shit and I seem to recall that there were actually 8 dimensions that these smart guys were able to think about or discover or what-not.

I, myself, am still trying to comprehend the third one and when it comes to the 4th one, I am completely lost'ed. So I am totally confused with anything beyond.

I'm not smart enough to explain the shit I sort of learned from "Dancing Wu Li Masters" but there is a section within that book that explains how individual "packets" of light travel (like a stream of very tiny bullets) through space and when those individual "bullets" reach an object with three slits cut in it, those bullets can make a "decision" as to which slit they should travel through. (Kind of like - each can make an individual decision.)

These smart guys actually measure this kind of stuff by the light and shadows cast on a wall behind that object with the slits in it.

And that's just the basic shit and the point at which it all leads into the very strange stuff. It all starts off with these little packets of light knowing where each of them should go and eventually leads to the conclusion that the only thing that actually exists within this world we are sort of familiar with is PURE ENERGY and nothing else.

And I think that those various dimensions are the "places" that I think are the 'ulterior universes' that we all participate in somehow ... Dude, I'm only realize how dumb I am on this subject when I try to explain what I THINK I know about it, It kind of like scambles my thinking process.,

Of course all this shit I'm saying is based on a book I read 20+ years ago, so these QM guys might have smartened up even more  and made new discoveries which they haven't told me about yet. (Those bastids!)

By the way, I had to read Dancing Wu Li Masters five or six times before some of it even began to sink into my mentally deficient cranium.

Six or seven more times and I just might be able to discuss it better. But it does appear that a person must be on the verge of insanity to fully understand most of it. (I say that because I honestly believe that once a person gets too damn smart, he falls into the insane category.) Something like a big unending circle of "smartness" to insanity and back again.

Getting to sound like Falcon here but this smart - insane shit is based on a couple of very close and recent observations.

Thanks again, No One.  I am gonna look for Lisa's book immediately.
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Post by: The Showstoppa on March 25, 2010, 09:13:22 AM
Thanks for jumping into the big Black Hole of QM, No One.

I love to discuss this shit and I seem to recall that there were actually 8 dimensions that these smart guys were able to think about or discover or what-not.

I, myself, am still trying to comprehend the third one and when it comes to the 4th one, I am completely lost'ed. So I am totally confused with anything beyond.

I'm not smart enough to explain the shit I sort of learned from "Dancing Wu Li Masters" but there is a section within that book that explains how individual "packets" of light travel (like a stream of very tiny bullets) through space and when those individual "bullets" reach an object with three slits cut in it, those bullets can make a "decision" as to which slit they should travel through. (Kind of like - each can make an individual decision.)

These smart guys actually measure this kind of stuff by the light and shadows cast on a wall behind that object with the slits in it.

And that's just the basic shit and the point at which it all leads into the very strange stuff. It all starts off with these little packets of light knowing where each of them should go and eventually leads to the conclusion that the only thing that actually exists within this world we are sort of familiar with is PURE ENERGY and nothing else.

And I think that those various dimensions are the "places" that I think are the 'ulterior universes' that we all participate in somehow ... Dude, I'm only realize how dumb I am on this subject when I try to explain what I THINK I know about it, It kind of like scambles my thinking process.,

Of course all this shit I'm saying is based on a book I read 20+ years ago, so these QM guys might have smarted up even more  and made new discoveries which they haven't told me about yet. (Those bastids!)

By the way, I had to read Dancing Wu Li Masters five or six times before some of it even began to sink into my mentally deficient cranium.

Six or seven more times and I just might be able to discuss it better. But it does appear that a person must be on the verge of insanity to fully understand most of it. (I say that because I honestly believe that once a person gets too damn smart, he falls into the insane category.) Something like a big unending circle of "smartness" to insanity and back again.

Getting to sound like Falcon here but this smart - insane shit is based on a couple of very close and recent observations.

Thanks again, No One.  I am gonna look for Lisa's book immediately.

I think I just developed a brain tumor from reading that.
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Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 25, 2010, 09:21:14 AM
here s a pic of the time machine.





(http://art2canvas.nuxit.net/pop-art/images/1238171962adobe_photoshop_cs2_2.jpg)


thank you, finally
i was waiting for someone to point out the obvious....i thought it might be some kind of joke.  you would have to be retarded to look at a photo on the internet and take it at face value with the image manipulation software available to people now-a-days

i cannot believe people are taking this seriously....you can see where he is superimposed.....its not even a good photoshop
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Post by: stuntmovie on March 25, 2010, 09:28:33 AM
No One, I found it and here is the review on Lisa's book Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions

You GetBiggers gotta excuse me but this may encourage a couple of you (one - maybe) to smarten up and get interested in QM and explain major portions of it to me. If you like this kind of stuff - It's amazing shit. Here are a couple of her book reviews. I did condense it a bit for you GetBiggers who don't like to read Big Words.

Harvard physicist Randall does a very nice job of explaining—often deftly through the use of creative analogies—how our universe may have many unseen dimensions. Readers' heads are likely to be swimming by the end of the book. Randall works hard to make her astoundingly complex material understandable, providing a great deal of background for recent advances in string and supersymmetry theory.

What is absolutely clear is that physicists simply do not yet know if there are extra dimensions a fraction of a millimeter in size, dimensions of infinite size or only the dimensions we see.

What's also clear is that the large hadron collider, the world's most powerful tool for studying subatomic particles, is likely to provide information permitting scientists to differentiate among these ideas soon after it begins operation in Switzerland in 2007.

Randall brings much of the excitement of her field to life as she describes her quest to understand the structure of the universe. B&w illus.

2nd Review......

Randall, a professor of physics at Harvard, offers a tour of current questions in particle physics, string theory, and cosmology, paying particular attention to the thesis that more physical dimensions exist than are usually acknowledged. Writing for a general audience, Randall is patient and kind: she encourages readers to skip around in the text, corrals mathematical equations in an appendix at the back, and starts off each chapter with an allegorical story, in a manner recalling the work of George Gamow. Although the subject itself is intractably difficult to follow, the exuberance of Randall's narration is appealing. She's honest about the limits of the known, and almost revels in the uncertainties that underlie her work—including the possibility that some day it may all be proved wrong.

Thanks again, No One.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 25, 2010, 09:36:44 AM
LOL, Show. Don't feel bad. Most people do! But you will soon recover.

But if you'd like to avoid brain tumors in the 4th dimension, I strongly advise ya to read "Dancing Wu Li Masters'.

It's a sure-all cure-all that will really scramble that brain of yours but once it's fried up a bit, it starts to gel and mystify your mind and gets ya thinking deep enough to do something that I have no idea of right now.

I guess it just gets ya thinking about things beyond the routine of everyday life.... and I do mean WAY BEYOND.

Reading about things you never even knew existed is one of the great things about reading!

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Post by: hazbin on March 25, 2010, 02:40:40 PM
he's the only one in the pic who's ear is casting a shadow on his cheek
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Post by: LurkyLurker on March 25, 2010, 05:27:23 PM
I met Dr. Lisa Randall once. She's buff! Nice arms and shoulders. Probably a getbigger.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 25, 2010, 06:59:14 PM
How the heck did you meet her, Lurk?

Did she say anything that could be important to us Get Big Quantum Gurus?

Did you read her book which I plan to go out looking for within the hour?

You got any opinion on this 7th or 8th dimension stuff?
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: HTexan on March 25, 2010, 07:11:42 PM
thank you, finally
i was waiting for someone to point out the obvious....i thought it might be some kind of joke.  you would have to be retarded to look at a photo on the internet and take it at face value with the image manipulation software available to people now-a-days

i cannot believe people are taking this seriously....you can see where he is superimposed.....its not even a good photoshop
No, dudes on the negative as well.
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Post by: Jizzacked on March 25, 2010, 07:38:10 PM
stunt,

I remember you recommending wu li masters a while back, sounded interesting.  however, after reading all the poor reviews on amazon I had to take a pass.  would you happen to have a rebuttal to those scathing one and two star reviews that people were giving this piece of work.. basically writing it off as 'pop science' drivel?
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 25, 2010, 07:54:18 PM
Jizz, without reading those Wu Li reviews, I would guess that they were written by some good people outside of the scientific community because based on my limited understanding of the subject matter, the QM experts (if there are such individuals within the QM world this early in the game) tend to agree with the author.

But as I've stated earlier, I'm not in the QM informational pipeline so it is possible that new studies have made parts of Dancing Wu Li Masters invalid.

But I seriously doubt it.

Now I gotta read those reviews. I just hope that they don't use real big words

Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: no one on March 25, 2010, 08:24:54 PM
No One, I found it and here is the review on Lisa's book Warped Passages: Unraveling the Mysteries of the Universe's Hidden Dimensions

You GetBiggers gotta excuse me but this may encourage a couple of you (one - maybe) to smarten up and get interested in QM and explain major portions of it to me. If you like this kind of stuff - It's amazing shit. Here are a couple of her book reviews. I did condense it a bit for you GetBiggers who don't like to read Big Words.

Harvard physicist Randall does a very nice job of explaining—often deftly through the use of creative analogies—how our universe may have many unseen dimensions. Readers' heads are likely to be swimming by the end of the book. Randall works hard to make her astoundingly complex material understandable, providing a great deal of background for recent advances in string and supersymmetry theory.

What is absolutely clear is that physicists simply do not yet know if there are extra dimensions a fraction of a millimeter in size, dimensions of infinite size or only the dimensions we see.

What's also clear is that the large hadron collider, the world's most powerful tool for studying subatomic particles, is likely to provide information permitting scientists to differentiate among these ideas soon after it begins operation in Switzerland in 2007.

Randall brings much of the excitement of her field to life as she describes her quest to understand the structure of the universe. B&w illus.

2nd Review......

Randall, a professor of physics at Harvard, offers a tour of current questions in particle physics, string theory, and cosmology, paying particular attention to the thesis that more physical dimensions exist than are usually acknowledged. Writing for a general audience, Randall is patient and kind: she encourages readers to skip around in the text, corrals mathematical equations in an appendix at the back, and starts off each chapter with an allegorical story, in a manner recalling the work of George Gamow. Although the subject itself is intractably difficult to follow, the exuberance of Randall's narration is appealing. She's honest about the limits of the known, and almost revels in the uncertainties that underlie her work—including the possibility that some day it may all be proved wrong.

Thanks again, No One.


your welcome, sir.

and just as an fyi, i stopped my search for 'the meaning' of life, or the secret if you will- the 'why we are here'- once i left QM and stumbled into reality, not reality in terms of 'this is life' but reality in terms of 'is this life?' i got stumped when i came head to head with the premise that, who is to say that this- your life, my life- is all really happening. who is to say that the life i live, the things i do, the relationships i have, this board even, isn't just a creation of my own consciousness. who is to say any of this is real? these words you are reading (if indeed someone is reading them) are not just a creation of your own mind and nothing truly exists outside of what you manifest for yourself.

it was at this point i pulled it back a notch and just decided to stop 'trying to get it'. i was making myself pretty unhappy. i do enjoy the challenge of thinking about such things and discussing them still, but have a more new-found appreciation for the life i'm living, rather than trying to solve it's riddle. maybe in all that what was meant to happen, maybe i was meant to go thru those stages to fully appreciate 'life' more than i used to. (shades of 'the celestine prophesy' by  james redfield in that last sentence. heh.)

Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 25, 2010, 08:34:08 PM
Sorry, guys and gals, but I just did a "copy" and now I gotta "paste" some Wu Li reviews for Jizz and some of you other GetBiggers because it could prove damn important in discovering a part of your brain that you never knew existed ..... or something like that.

I ,myself, had to read it more than once to get a rough idea of what it was all about but if you stick with it and read it nice and slow, it'll eventually knock the shit out of that space between your earlobes and you'll be saying WOW at the end of every chapter - at least that will be true once you pass the middle or a bit earlier.

Here are some Amazon book reviews:

At an Esalen Institute meeting in 1976, tai chi master Al Huang said that the Chinese word for physics is Wu Li, "patterns of organic energy." Journalist Gary Zukav and the others present developed the idea of physics as the dance of the Wu Li Masters--the teachers of physical essence. Zukav explains the concept further:

The Wu Li Master dances with his student. The Wu Li Master does not teach, but the student learns. The Wu Li Master always begins at the center, the heart of the matter.... This book deals not with knowledge, which is always past tense anyway, but with imagination, which is physics come alive, which is Wu Li.... Most people believe that physicists are explaining the world. Some physicists even believe that, but the Wu Li Masters know that they are only dancing with it.

The "new physics" of Zukav's 1979 book comprises quantum theory, particle physics, and relativity. Even as these theories age they haven't percolated all that far into the collective consciousness; they're too far removed from mundane human experience not to need introduction. The Dancing Wu Li Masters remains an engaging, accessible way to meet the most profound and mind-altering insights of 20th-century science. --Mary Ellen Curtin

Review

"Zukav is such a skillful expositor, with such amiable style, that it is hard to imagine a layman who would not find this book enjoyable and informative."
--Martin Gardner, staff writer, Scientific American -- Review

"'Stripped of mathematics, physics becomes pure enchantment'...I don't care how dumb you are at science; you'll come away from this book feeling like a Wu Li master yourself."
--Christopher Lehmann-Haupt, The New York Times

"Zukav is such a skillful expositor, with such amiable style, that it is hard to imagine a layman who would not find this book enjoyable and informative."

Review ends

I don't see a bad review up there but don't let that initial hocus pokus scare ya off and do your best to get by the first 3 - 4 dozen pages where he expounds on the history mathmatic pioneers. (The cat in the black box thought process was miles above my head though.)

It really starts to get interesting when he starts speaking about the dual nature of light which is explained so simply that it can be understood by a cat. (You'll eventually learn that the dual nature of light will depend on how you observe it.)

And the book explains it much more simpler than I'm presently attempting to accomplish.

If I had a copy, I'd send it to ya but I've had seven soft bound copiesand I keep giving them to people whom I think should read it.

Thanks , Jizz, for your interest.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: Jizzacked on March 25, 2010, 08:38:59 PM
good stuff stunt...

I will probably end up reading it at some point, I just don't have the time at the moment.  you seem like a pretty enlightened cat and I usually make an effort to look into books/articles that certain individuals seem to have been profoundly impacted by.

I will let you know my thoughts when the day comes, I have it bookmarked.

btw if you are interested, here is the link for all the one star reviews on amazon..
http://www.amazon.com/Dancing-Wu-Li-Masters-Overview/product-reviews/0060959681/ref=cm_cr_pr_hist_1?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addOneStar
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 25, 2010, 08:56:37 PM
No one ! Thanks for you intelligent post regarding reality. I could have been a bit messed up that day, but I kind of recall discussing that very same subject in a philosophy class which I didn't appreciate back then because it was a requirement and I wasn't too interested in what old guys thought about many centuries before my time.

In fact I was so bored and uninterested back then that I can only recall a discussion in that very same class about a tree fallINg in the woods with no one near enough to hear it - the problem/question being - DOES IT MAKE A SOUND??

And that one topic woke everyone up and eventually led us towards discussions and arguments of a much more profound philosophical nature such as "Are we really here or are we thinking it?!"

That question is briefly discussed in Wu Li if I recall correctly.

Thanks, No
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 25, 2010, 09:03:12 PM
Thanks, Jizz! I hope you give it a try. It's tuff reading but get far enough in and you'll be hooked. And you might have to read a chapter or two more than once to be a Master yourself .... which I sure as hell ain't yet.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: LurkyLurker on March 25, 2010, 10:24:39 PM
How the heck did you meet her, Lurk?

Did she say anything that could be important to us Get Big Quantum Gurus?

Did you read her book which I plan to go out looking for within the hour?

You got any opinion on this 7th or 8th dimension stuff?

She was speaking at a conference about the new hadron collider. I was invited by a friend with connections. I like to think of myself as fairly educated, but learned quickly that I'm not. The woman is impressive, physically as well as mentally.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: heavyNbasic on March 25, 2010, 10:33:24 PM
Time travel?  Didn't True Adonis make a machine for that.  Oh, no, wait, that was anti-gravity.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: no one on March 26, 2010, 08:01:13 AM
She was speaking at a conference about the new hadron collider. I was invited by a friend with connections. I like to think of myself as fairly educated, but learned quickly that I'm not. The woman is impressive, physically as well as mentally.

true dat.

after all of this the only thing that i know is that i don't know anything.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on March 26, 2010, 08:10:49 AM
That guy is clearly from the future!   :o
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: NCNPC29 on March 26, 2010, 08:56:06 AM
its from 1941. dude has a silkscreen t-shirt on.
http://www.virtualmuseum.ca/pm_v2.php?id=record_detail&fl=0&lg=English&ex=00000470&hs=0&rd=117666

Silk Screening was invented and patented in 1907. In 1910 color silk screening was patented.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 26, 2010, 09:05:23 AM
Here's another basic deep thought thing to think about. Do you realize that many deep thinker guys are actually paid to sit around and think of things like this. But I have no idea what the hell they do with the thoughts they think about. Maybe they end up making science fiction movies or kid's cartoons and new ways to annhilate Superman, etc., etc.

Be prepare to think deep cause here goes ....

The speed of light in the USA is approximately 186,000 miles per second.
In Europe and some other places it's 299,792,458 meters per second or about 300,000 kilometers per second.

The above difference being that some of us measure distances in miles per second and others measure in meters/kilometers per second.

But no matter where we stand the speed of light is a constant.. That means a lot of stuff but for dumb guys like me and some of youz it simply means that it never changes. It never starts out slow and eventually builds up to that 186,000 number. It is constant so it even starts its long journey at 186,000 miles per second and that's one hell of a blastoff.

ANd if you were to run towards the speed of light at a tremendous speed, it would still hit you at a speed of 186,000 miles per second.

Or likewise, if you were to run away from it, it would still hit ya at 186,000 miles per second.

But now we're getting into Albert's theory of relativity stuff and off the track a bit, but let's continue anyway.....

So now ya gotta start the deep thinking process ........ What would happen if YOU were able to travel faster than the speed of light at exactly 200,000 miles per second or maybe even faster at double the speed of light. In that case your top speed would be 372,000 miles per second.

Without trying to be too damn funny, what would happen if you could travel that fast?

This is somewhat similar to what those deep thinkers think about and get paid for doing so.

But this this question is pretty damn basic so there is an answer for it somewhere here on the internet. Not only an answer, but a major discussion that involves all sort of complications and interesting stuff.

And here's where I end this ....... I have a family friend who is one of these guys who thinks deep thoughts. We all think (most of us) but this guy thinks miles deeper than each of us GetBiggers. And he says that he loves to think of complicated stuff but has a difficult time thinking about 'eternity'.

In fact it's such a problem for him that whenever he thinks deeply about endless time, he gets dizzy.

And that is the one thing that this smart guy and myself have in common. I get dizzy too!

And I got a feeling that many of you GetBiggers get dizzy also! In fact some of youz might even get dizzy simply thinking about tomorrow.

But then, what the fook do I know?!



Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on March 26, 2010, 09:07:50 AM
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on March 26, 2010, 10:30:20 AM
(http://www.seinfeldonline.com/kramer2.jpg)

(http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/doc_brown-full.jpg)
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: dr.chimps on March 26, 2010, 10:35:36 AM
I know from watching Superman that if you fly fast enough and anti-clockwise around the world you can go back in time. I would then go to Vegas and lay down some bets rather than saving Lois, but that's just me.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 26, 2010, 10:39:02 AM
I know from watching Superman that if you fly fast enough and anti-clockwise around the world you can go back in time. I would then go to Vegas and lay down some bets rather than saving Lois, but that's just me.
Sounds like a quote from disturbia.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 26, 2010, 12:05:05 PM
apparently time travel, a rather important issue to one mr. "stuntmovie"...........he wrote a theses in the last three pages
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 26, 2010, 12:23:17 PM
google video's has the full version of the 2004 movie "primer"...Its a pretty intelligent indie movie on time travel...Not the best quality but watchable...If you haven't seen it, its worth watching...For sure to scramble a few brain cells...
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 26, 2010, 12:24:08 PM
A good time travel movie is called 'Primer'. Very cheaply made but i liked it, takes a while to figure out.

This...The movie was made for 7 grand...amazing...
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: Bodybuilding Related on March 26, 2010, 12:35:31 PM
(http://cucharasonica.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/donnie_darko.jpg)
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 26, 2010, 12:37:06 PM
Un-sung, Yea! Sorry about that. I do get a bit carried away, but not so much about Time Travel ...... I'm more interested in the somewhat related aspects of that subject........

Like ,,,, QUANTUM MECHANICS and Relativity (Special and General).

Not that I'm actually smart enough to understand it all, but I like a good reading challenge that I can talk about in an attempt to prove how smart I am among those who know less than I do. (Pretty callous, huh?!)

But I will admit that I once had a chance to have a short talk with a physicist from UC and I told him  I was having a very difficult time understanding Dancing Wu Li Masters and the subject of QM in general .... and he simply replied, "Don't worry about that! Even the best of us are somewhat thoroughly confused! But if you ever hear anyone say they know all about QM, I can guarantee you that they know nothing at all!"

Ever since that conversation, I've felt like a very smart individual but I do realize that I'm still as dumb as I used to be.

I'm only smarter now because I now realize that there is so damn much more stuff that I'm totally ignorant about.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: rccs on March 26, 2010, 12:43:45 PM
Time travel? Only on getbig... ::)
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 26, 2010, 12:45:10 PM
Un, no need to call me Mr. You can call me stunt or movie or asshole. Your choice.

I never did see Johnny Darko or maybe I did see it once and forgot all about it. Can someone 'sy-nop-to-cize it for me? Preferably Dr Chips who appears to be all knowledgeable in these Hollywood things.

You know, for some reason I keep on thinking about Falcon when I talk on this mystery subject. I think he was on the fringe of something big if he had turned a bit in a counter direction. Vince Gironda used to be somewhat like Falcon but it took many years for the world to learn that he was right most of the time.

Thanks, Vince Gironda! (Had to add his last name for obvious reasons,)
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 26, 2010, 12:50:57 PM
Yea, RCCS! To make it Bodybuilder related, I'll definitely say that Frank Zane will be the first Time Traveler within the world of the IFBB, but I got no idea where he'll be heading off to.

But more than likely someplace where he can make changes to make the world a better place.

Don't laugh! He's done more mysterious things. Mysterious things that only good people seem to accomplish in their lifetimes.

(Hi Frank, I got clean sox thanks to you and Cristine!) Now they'll know who this is.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 26, 2010, 12:55:22 PM
good luck to anyone tasked to synopsizes donnie darko....
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 26, 2010, 12:57:42 PM
Here! I looked it on on the Google thing....

http://www.themoviegoer.com/donnie_darko.htm

Now I gotta read it...
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: rccs on March 26, 2010, 12:59:16 PM
Yea, RCCS! To make it Bodybuilder related, I'll definitely say that Frank Zane will be the first Time Traveler within the world of the IFBB, but I got no idea where he'll be heading off to.

But more than likely someplace where he can make changes to make the world a better place.

Don't laugh! He's done more mysterious things. Mysterious things that only good people seem to accomplish in their lifetimes.

(Hi Frank, I got clean sox thanks to you and Cristine!) Now they'll know who this is.
??? ??? ???
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 26, 2010, 01:45:06 PM
DAMN! I just read that Darko synopsis and the top of my head flew off. If anyone can understand that, you'll definitely have no problems with Dancing Wu Li, or the theory of relatively, or any String Theory book whatsoeverl

But you just might want to start off with some small simple book on Blackjack Basic Strategy or the frequency of repeating numbers in the game of casino Craps. (I forget the exact scientific name for that dice one, but there is a scientific explanation which may be of interest to some of youz wise guys.) Dice paradigem comes to mind if I spelt it right.

And never play any game in any casino unless you know what these books are trying to teach ya. There are way too many bodybuilders playing Blackjack stupidly every time the Olympia comes to town and losing all their supplement money at the tables.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 26, 2010, 06:02:24 PM
(http://cucharasonica.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/donnie_darko.jpg)

good flick right there...
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: just_a_pilgrim on March 26, 2010, 08:14:20 PM
This...The movie was made for 7 grand...amazing...

Yo, yes it was very good. I figured it out by reading other people's views on what happened and putting it all together. No-one really stated what i came up with although the basic idea of what happened was on one site.
Title: Re: time traveler?
Post by: stuntmovie on March 28, 2010, 09:48:46 AM
Speaking about motion pictures.... I took some nephews and nieces to see HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON thinking that they'd enjoy it while their mom and dad got some free time to have a decent dinner in the casino restaurant.

Well the kids liked it but I ..... fooking loved it!

In fact the last time I can recall feeling the way that this movie made me feel was when I was a kid watching Pinnochio and crying when he got eaten up by the whale and died, and only moments later - happy as a kid could be watching him come to life as a 'real live boy!

The Dragon movie is one heck of a great flicker!

You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll shit your pants! (Choose two)

I realized I really liked this film when tears came to my eyes during he happier moments. They are done exceptionally well even though Jim Cameron could possibly file a lawsuit for copyright infringement!

Great "acting" too! Just watch the those background characters! Watch all the facial expressions and you'll see what I mean.

Outstanding job on this one, Dreamworks!

Now that I know how to train one, I gotta get one and ...... I did promise the kids.