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Apparently, ObamaCare is good for every American.....EXCEPT OBAMA HIMSELF.
GOP wants Obama to enroll in Obamacare
As the Senate grinds through 20 hours of debate on the health care reconciliation bill, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Tuesday night offered an amendment that would require the president, vice-president, members of Congress, political appointees and congressional staff to get their federal health benefits through the soon-to-be-created health insurance exchanges.
This group currently gets insurance through a system overseen by the Office of Management and Budget and under the health care bill signed into law today, some of the congressional staff would have to sign up for insurance through the exchanges. But some would be exempted. Politico filed a story Tuesday night pointing out that leadership and committee staff are exempt from having to use the exchanges. This has caused a bit of an uproar on Capitol Hill, with Republicans accusing top Democratic staff of writing a health care law that's not good enough for them to participate in.
"President Obama has publicly advertised that his reforms would give members of the public the same coverage available to Members of Congress," reads a GOP summary of the Grassley measure. "This amendment would ensure that he, his successors, and all his appointed political officials would also have the same coverage members of the public enrolled in the Exchange receive."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/GOP-wants-Obama-to-enroll-in-Obamacare-88978367.html (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/GOP-wants-Obama-to-enroll-in-Obamacare-88978367.html)
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Yeah, ok.
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I thought it wasn't going to pass.
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I thought it wasn't going to pass.
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So did I. But, I grossly underestimated the ability of Democrats to give a big "F--- YOU!!!" to the American people and whore themselves before the shrine of Obama.
Here is but a small taste of what's in store:
Walgreens: no new Medicaid patients as of April 16
Effective April 16, Walgreens drugstores across the state won't take any new Medicaid patients, saying that filling their prescriptions is a money-losing proposition — the latest development in an ongoing dispute over Medicaid reimbursement.
The company, which operates 121 stores in the state, will continue filling Medicaid prescriptions for current patients.
In a news release, Walgreens said its decision to not take new Medicaid patients stemmed from a "continued reduction in reimbursement" under the state's Medicaid program, which reimburses it at less than the break-even point for 95 percent of brand-name medications dispensed to Medicaid patents....
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011367936_walgreens18m.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011367936_walgreens18m.html)
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I thought it wasn't going to pass.
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Well it did...so shouldn't the pres. put his health where his mouth is?
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Bro - this mess is not intended for them, its intended for us and Dingle admits it! You people really need to WTFU!
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i wana see bambam and his family at the 24 hour clinic in a south dallas ghetto , and hear him tell everyone thats been waiting for 10 hours how great things are for them while he waits too
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Bro - this mess is not intended for them, its intended for us and Dingle admits it! You people really need to WTFU!
As I told a certain factually-challenged poster, if you think Shameka from the hood and Becky from the trailer park are going to get the same type of care that Nancy Pelosi gets, you are smoking that stuff.
It's no different than liberals, shilling themselves out to the teachers' unions, yet wouldn't put their kids in public schools, if you put a .45 to their skulls.
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This clip from Dingle is what I have been saying from day one, this is not about health care - its about controlling your life, Big brother, Nanny State, 1984, all rolled up into one.
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So did I. But, I grossly underestimated
Translated = "I was completely wrong in my rants"
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Translated = "I was completely wrong in my rants"
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My statement stands as is. Even I didn't think the Dems would be that underhanded.
But, that still doesn't address why Mr. Hope-and-Change has an exemption to his own plan.
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Because obama knows that the cult members like lurker, straw, mons, benny, blacken really dont care at the of the day.
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I too want him to enroll... As I want all congress members to enroll.
If it's good enough for us, it should be good enough for them.
I've been saying this for months now.
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My statement stands as is. Even I didn't think the Dems would be that underhanded.
Obamacare is God's will. God approved of Obamacare or else it wouldn't have passed.
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How could even be eligible to enroll when he already gets health insurance through his employer
does the GOP even uderstand the bill that was passed?
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How could even be eligible to enroll when he already gets health insurance through his employer
does the GOP even uderstand the bill that was passed?
His employer is US!!!So,put him on the program he passed.Let the congress lead the way,oh wait...its do as I say,not as I do.
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hahahaa awesome move by republicans!
Obviously unfair... he's the most important man on the planet. They carry a suitcase of blood and a doctor everywhere he goes. Obviously Bush needed the best healthcare in the world, and obviously Obama needs it now.
however, I'd love to hear his response to this challenge. it'll be even funnier if HE ACCEPTS! None of us will know if he's getting his own treatment on the fly. But the video of Obama going to a clinic for a checkup, shaking hands with people, etc - that would certainly fire a round back at republicans!
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hahahaa awesome move by republicans!
Obviously unfair... he's the most important man on the planet. They carry a suitcase of blood and a doctor everywhere he goes. Obviously Bush needed the best healthcare in the world, and obviously Obama needs it now.
however, I'd love to hear his response to this challenge. it'll be even funnier if HE ACCEPTS! None of us will know if he's getting his own treatment on the fly. But the video of Obama going to a clinic for a checkup, shaking hands with people, etc - that would certainly fire a round back at republicans!
No,I want his kids going to the clinic and to a public school as well since he loves to take away vouchers.
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His employer is US!!!So,put him on the program he passed.Let the congress lead the way,oh wait...its do as I say,not as I do.
it's not set up that way dipshit
there is no means by which Obama could even access the plan
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why should he; he can afford Blue Cross/Blue Shield; even if they raise his rates 30-40%.
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No,I want his kids going to the clinic and to a public school as well since he loves to take away vouchers.
who gives a shit what you want
shouldn't you be worried about keeping an eye on your own kid instead
we all know if something "happens" to him you've vowed to blow up abortion clinics
keep your eye on the ball
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why should he; he can afford Blue Cross/Blue Shield; even if they raise his rates 30-40%.
Screw that. let MAOBAMA go to the clinic where the rest of us will end us since that is what is going to occur.
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Screw that. let MAOBAMA go to the clinic where the rest of us will end us since that is what is going to occur.
If you have to go to a clinic that is your own fault. Should have secured yourself better insurance prior.
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If you have to go to a clinic that is your own fault. Should have secured yourself better insurance prior.
See you at the DMV bro.
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You won't see me there.
Sucks you didn't plan in advance and have to go yourself. Oh well.... better luck next time.
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who gives a shit what you want
shouldn't you be worried about keeping an eye on your own kid instead
we all know if something "happens" to him you've vowed to blow up abortion clinics
keep your eye on the ball
Because Im paying for his nappy headed ho kids with my tax money.THATS why I worry about it.I dont want those pickininnys getting more then we get since they are on the government payroll paid for by me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"Because Im paying for his nappy headed ho kids "
Billy - really?
When Palin uses her kids as props and has them onstage with her talking about abstinence, everybody on getbig screams that they are off-limits for political discussion.
Yet an attack on 10 year old girl as "nappy headed ho kids "?
Really? ????
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"Because Im paying for his nappy headed ho kids "
Billy - really?
When Palin uses her kids as props and has them onstage with her talking about abstinence, everybody on getbig screams that they are off-limits for political discussion.
Yet an attack on 10 year old girl as "nappy headed ho kids "?
Really? ????
YOUR THE guy THAT BRINGS UP HER KID!!Good enough for you to do it,good enough for me to do it.Your just like that skanky bitch Jag,you guys get on her throw out insults and lies then act offended when THE EXACT same thing is done towards your beloved libs.Your clowns and jokes.
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By the way jerkoff,Straw brough up MY KID in the thread.So,once again go fuck yourself you double talking lib.
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By the way jerkoff,Straw brough up MY KID in the thread.So,once again go fuck yourself you double talking lib.
240 - "I am a libertarian" ::) ::)
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240 - "Im a conservative" ::) ::) ::)
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Its really a joke.I have no problem with people insulting conservatives or even me,I dont care what kind of slurs you use.Just dont act high and mighty and get offended when the same type of words are used against you or your lib heroes.You want to make fun of Palins "retard kid" or say "ythe baby isnt hers" ,then expect me to say Obamas kids are nappy headed hos.Jag wants to call Coulter a man and mock her looks then Jag can expect me to talk about the size of her stinking snatch that makes any penis look like a 747 flying in the grand canyon.You want an insult contest?Fine.Just dont get self rightous on us and cry like a bitch when we use the same tactics as libs.
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By the way jerkoff,Straw brough up MY KID in the thread.So,once again go fuck yourself you double talking lib.
Billy - you're the one the brought up Obama's kids before I mentioned your poor unfortunate spawn and I only mentioned him because I want you to keep your eyes on him so nothing happens because we know if "something" does happen you'll be out blowing up abortion clinics the next day.
If you've got a problem with someone bringing up your kid then stop mentioning other peoples kids:
No,I want his kids going to the clinic and to a public school as well since he loves to take away vouchers.
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Because Im paying for his nappy headed ho kids with my tax money.THATS why I worry about it.I dont want those pickininnys getting more then we get since they are on the government payroll paid for by me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Billy, the depth of your stupidity is really limitless isn't it.
You've been paying for Obama since the day he was sworn in as Senator.
If you really want to get pissed just think how long you've been paying for Biden and his family
Pleasant dreams .....dumbass
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Billy, the depth of your stupidity is really limitless isn't it.
You've been paying for Obama since the day he was sworn in as Senator.
If you really want to get pissed just think how long you've been paying for Biden and his family
Pleasant dreams .....dumbass
and Byrd, McCain, Specter, et al. we really need term limits asap.
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If I had it my way, I'd make it like Jury duty... Your number gets pulled and you go to congress for a couple of years.
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and Byrd, McCain, Specter, et al. we really need term limits asap.
Don't forget Mitch McConnel and The Boner and how about McCain
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Don't forget Mitch McConnel and The Boner and how about McCain
Absolutely. Straw - do you honestly think I like those bums?
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Billy - you're the one the brought up Obama's kids before I mentioned your poor unfortunate spawn and I only mentioned him because I want you to keep your eyes on him so nothing happens because we know if "something" does happen you'll be out blowing up abortion clinics the next day.
If you've got a problem with someone bringing up your kid then stop mentioning other peoples kids:
Hey fuckhead,the lIbs on this site have been bringing up Palins kids for months and months.NOT A FUCKING PEEP TO THEM OR ABOUT THEIR KIDS FROM YOU.So go fuck yourself you girl.Until you have the same standard keep you guy shut.The libs on here started the kid shit with Palins baby,now the door is open for us to say whatever the fuck we want to about Obama ratty ass punk bitch kids.
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Absolutely. Straw - do you honestly think I like those bums?
If there is on thing I think about you is that you have no shortage of hatred for almost everything
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Hey fuckhead,the lIbs on this site have been bringing up Palins kids for months and months.NOT A FUCKING PEEP TO THEM OR ABOUT THEIR KIDS FROM YOU.So go fuck yourself you ####.Until you have the same standard keep you #### shut.The libs on here started the kid shit with Palins baby,now the door is open for us to say whatever the fuck we want to about Obama ratty ass punk bitch kids.
so it's OK to call Obama's kids names.
I guess it's OK if I call your kid all kinds of names too
that would be fair right?
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If there is on thing I think about you is that you have no shortage of hatred for almost everything
I like Sam Adams Lite.
I like guns.
I like Slayer, Ozzy, Ice T, PE, BLS
I like the Yankees
I like jet sking.
I like horror movies
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so it's OK to call Obama's kids names.
I guess it's OK if I call your kid all kinds of names too
that would be fair right?
I dont care,my kid would probably kick your fucking ass at 15 years old,I know he could outlift you and by miles on formula,so your insults towards him would be meaningless.
However,I will answewr your question with another question.So its ok for people to insult Palins kids?I dont see a darn bit of outrage when its against Palin.I see 240 get super upset at anything said about Obamas kids but he was one of the first to blast her kids.So,once again,Im just playing by the libs rules.They set the rules,not me.
If you dont want any family insults,you need to start with people like 240,if you want less insults talk to people like jag who throws out vicous stuff and puts a smiley stickey on it like that makes it ok.I will play by any rules you lay down,but they break the rules then I will go beyond them.
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By the way,that first post did not insult Obamas kids at all.I wasa saying if its good enough for others kids it should be good enough for his.The insult came AFTER you mentioned my kid.
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I dont care,my kid would probably kick your fucking ass at 15 years old,I know he could outlift you and by miles on formula,so your insults towards him would be meaningless.
However,I will answewr your question with another question.So its ok for people to insult Palins kids?I dont see a darn bit of outrage when its against Palin.I see 240 get super upset at anything said about Obamas kids but he was one of the first to blast her kids.So,once again,Im just playing by the libs rules.They set the rules,not me.
If you dont want any family insults,you need to start with people like 240,if you want less insults talk to people like jag who throws out vicous stuff and puts a smiley stickey on it like that makes it ok.I will play by any rules you lay down,but they break the rules then I will go beyond them.
I wouldn't insult your kid
I just asked you if it was fair
I mean you do it so it must be OK right
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By the way,that first post did not insult Obamas kids at all.I wasa saying if its good enough for others kids it should be good enough for his.The insult came AFTER you mentioned my kid.
how does my merely mentioning that you should pay attention to your own kid (which is not an insult to your kid) justify you lashing out and insulting someone else's kid
how does that work?
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how does my merely mentioning that you should pay attention to your own kid (which is not an insult to your kid) justify you lashing out and insulting someone else's kid
how does that work?
Oh come on,it was clearly meant to atagonise me.Notice however I didnt go after your family.Forget it,I will try not to let it happen again.I apologise to the board for bringing in Obamas kids.It was a cheap shot and I will try harder to keep it on those actually involvred in politics.I get carried away sometimes and for that Im sorry.I wont draw back on my ripping of Obama or libs like jag or 240 but I will keep kids out.
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Apparently, ObamaCare is good for every American.....EXCEPT OBAMA HIMSELF.
GOP wants Obama to enroll in Obamacare
As the Senate grinds through 20 hours of debate on the health care reconciliation bill, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Tuesday night offered an amendment that would require the president, vice-president, members of Congress, political appointees and congressional staff to get their federal health benefits through the soon-to-be-created health insurance exchanges.
This group currently gets insurance through a system overseen by the Office of Management and Budget and under the health care bill signed into law today, some of the congressional staff would have to sign up for insurance through the exchanges. But some would be exempted. Politico filed a story Tuesday night pointing out that leadership and committee staff are exempt from having to use the exchanges. This has caused a bit of an uproar on Capitol Hill, with Republicans accusing top Democratic staff of writing a health care law that's not good enough for them to participate in.
"President Obama has publicly advertised that his reforms would give members of the public the same coverage available to Members of Congress," reads a GOP summary of the Grassley measure. "This amendment would ensure that he, his successors, and all his appointed political officials would also have the same coverage members of the public enrolled in the Exchange receive."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/GOP-wants-Obama-to-enroll-in-Obamacare-88978367.html (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/GOP-wants-Obama-to-enroll-in-Obamacare-88978367.html)
I like it.
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I was just listening to this from Mark Simone (filling in for Levine) and its just not Obama, there is an actual exemption clause in the bill for the Democrats in congress. They don't like the bill so they exempt themselves!
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I was just listening to this from Mark Simone (filling in for Levine) and its just not Obama, there is an actual exemption clause in the bill for the Democrats in congress. They don't like the bill so they exempt themselves!
Marc simone is a local NY guy. He's pretty good.
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I was just listening to this from Mark Simone (filling in for Levine) and its just not Obama, there is an actual exemption clause in the bill for the Democrats in congress. They don't like the bill so they exempt themselves!
True indeed!!!
You would think with all the political tomfoolery they did to pass this mess, they would have faith in their own product.
But, of course, given they act much the same way with regards to public schools, it ain't as much of a surprise.
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I mentioned this about 6 months ago... It was in there then and no one said shit.
Why didn't anyone bring this up? That would have been their smartest bet.
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I mentioned this about 6 months ago... It was in there then and no one said shit.
Why didn't anyone bring this up? That would have been their smartest bet.
I don't know what you're reading, but this issue has been brought up ad-nauseum. In the end, it just didn't matter...
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Point is...work and strive as hard as you can. But there are govt. workers that will prosper more. Why? Not because they work harder than you...they have minions who worship them. They want a collectivist society where you have no identity. They are leaches and liberals who take from the producers. To sum up very easily...they believe...NEED IS A CLAIM ON YOUR LIFE!
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Point is...work and strive as hard as you can. But there are govt. workers that will prosper more. Why? Not because they work harder than you...they have minions who worship them. They want a collectivist society where you have no identity. They are leaches and liberals who take from the producers. To sum up very easily...they believe...NEED IS A CLAIM ON YOUR LIFE!
You would not believe how many facebook arguments I get into with people who actually believe I dont own my salary and wages, but that society does.
I swear, the dumbing down of America over the past 20 years is now bearing fruits like never before with how stupid most people are.
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It's funny reading thru this thread how all the people who support the healthcare plan don't think this is reasonable....haha
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It's funny reading thru this thread how all the people who support the healthcare plan don't think this is reasonable....haha
What do you expect from people who worship Obama and want to ensure he is immortal and will be president for life?
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Their enrollment should be a part of the law. There's no reason whatsoever for them to not be enrolled if the bill is good for all Americans.
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Their enrollment should be a part of the law. There's no reason whatsoever for them to not be enrolled if the bill is good for all Americans.
Dingle: "ObamaCare is meant to control the people"
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Their enrollment should be a part of the law. There's no reason whatsoever for them to not be enrolled if the bill is good for all Americans.
that truth is so obvious that it's painful to any clear thinking individual.
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that truth is so obvious that it's painful to any clear thinking individual.
We are not dealing with clear thinking people.
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that truth is so obvious that it's painful to any clear thinking individual.
We are dealing with the likes of Straw, Mons, Benny, Blacken, TA, Nicky, etc. And maybe 240.
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I would be cool if people chose not to get healthcare
IF
They were willing to sign a document giving up all rights to ever use an emergency room. If they get run over by a truck or cut themselves washing dishes, they DIE ON THE STREET in front of the hospital, their last vision being their signature saying they won't be a burden on the system, and choose to pass on any services.
it would just take a few youtube clips of idiots who decided they wouldn't pay for a service - then actually not getting that service - to change some minds.
I guess I dont understand why ppl don't realize how unfair it is now - most of us pay healthcare costs each month - and these idiots can just wander in with a nail in their hand, and they get fixed FOR FREE! That's some bullshit. What if you were buying lunch at McD, and some bum came in and just got his food for free, because he didn't have a job?
Fuuck that. You're a lib POS if you support the current system. If anything, the new system actually punishes the fvckers enjoying free ER coverage now, without paying a cent.
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I would be cool if people chose not to get healthcare
IF
They were willing to sign a document giving up all rights to ever use an emergency room. If they get run over by a truck or cut themselves washing dishes, they DIE ON THE STREET in front of the hospital, their last vision being their signature saying they won't be a burden on the system, and choose to pass on any services.
it would just take a few youtube clips of idiots who decided they wouldn't pay for a service - then actually not getting that service - to change some minds.
I guess I dont understand why ppl don't realize how unfair it is now - most of us pay healthcare costs each month - and these idiots can just wander in with a nail in their hand, and they get fixed FOR FREE! That's some bullshit. What if you were buying lunch at McD, and some bum came in and just got his food for free, because he didn't have a job?
Fuuck that. You're a lib POS if you support the current system. If anything, the new system actually punishes the fvckers enjoying free ER coverage now, without paying a cent.
Its called EMTALA. Take it up with your reps if you dont like it.
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I would be cool if people chose not to get healthcare
IF
They were willing to sign a document giving up all rights to ever use an emergency room. If they get run over by a truck or cut themselves washing dishes, they DIE ON THE STREET in front of the hospital, their last vision being their signature saying they won't be a burden on the system, and choose to pass on any services.
it would just take a few youtube clips of idiots who decided they wouldn't pay for a service - then actually not getting that service - to change some minds.
I guess I dont understand why ppl don't realize how unfair it is now - most of us pay healthcare costs each month - and these idiots can just wander in with a nail in their hand, and they get fixed FOR FREE! That's some bullshit. What if you were buying lunch at McD, and some bum came in and just got his food for free, because he didn't have a job?
Fuuck that. You're a lib POS if you support the current system. If anything, the new system actually punishes the fvckers enjoying free ER coverage now, without paying a cent.
I don't think it's fair now....emergency room is used as a doctors office by the shit of society and we foot the bill. The problem is that the garbage plan just passed isn't going to improve the situation. I think we agree on that.
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What do you expect from people who worship Obama and want to ensure he is immortal and will be president for life?
well, not for life, but at least his full 8 years.
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Everyone who voted yes should sign a contract stating they (and any family members in their homes) will use the national healthcare plan forever.
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Everyone who voted yes should sign a contract stating they (and any family members in their homes) will use the national healthcare plan forever.
why, i can afford my own. this is for the peeps that cant.
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why, i can afford my own. this is for the peeps that can't.
Full nationalization will insure we all have the same level of care.
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It's wrong that they can force you into this. Way, way too much control.
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Full nationalization will insure we all have the same level of care.
there's nothing about 'full nationalizaion' in this insurance reform bill...
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there's nothing about 'full nationalizaion' in this insurance reform bill...
Wrong. The Federal Govt is now mandating the details of all insurance policies that we all must buy. Get ready to start paying a lot lot more.
The states will have no more power over this to set their own regulations unless they are stricter than the federal govt ones.
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there's nothing about 'full nationalizaion' in this insurance reform bill...
Why half do it? If proponents of this bill are arguing health insurance and medical care are basic rights, we shouldn't tolerate anyone getting better care. It's already been proven "Separate but equal" doesn't work in America. :)
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Why half do it? If proponents of this bill are arguing health insurance and medical care are basic rights, we shouldn't tolerate anyone getting better care. It's already been proven "Separate but equal" doesn't work in America. :)
QFT...that's too much sense though Doc.
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Why half do it? If proponents of this bill are arguing health insurance and medical care are basic rights, we shouldn't tolerate anyone getting better care. It's already been proven "Separate but equal" doesn't work in America. :)
isn't food a sort of a basic right too (or at least we think we're such a moral country that we attempt to help those who are too poor to provide food for their families with food stamps, free school lunches, etc...)?
that doesn't mean if you're broke you're entitled to a first class steak dinner
I doubt anyone getting care under this legislation is going to receive the options that someone on good PPO plan would receive and certainly nothing comparable to what a weatlhy person who can pay anything out of pocket would receive
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isn't food a sort of a basic right too (or at least we think we're such a moral country that we attempt to help those who are too poor to provide food for their families with food stamps, free school lunches, etc...)?
that doesn't mean if you're broke you're entitled to a first class steak dinner
I doubt anyone getting care under this legislation is going to receive the options that someone on good PPO plan would receive and certainly nothing comparable to what a weatlhy person who can pay anything out of pocket would receive
Should food and shleter also be a "right"?
Your rights are found in the bill of rights, not what you can steal from your fellow taxpayer.