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Title: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 25, 2010, 05:40:54 AM
Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport please?
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Red Hook on March 25, 2010, 05:48:32 AM
Get the M3 instead of better yet the M6
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 05:59:01 AM
Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport please?
Unfortunately, Okami, we don't get that here in the States. Seem like that is a Euro or UK only car. I gather that it is 4 cylinder. Off the top don't know the hp ratings, but I would gather you get great economy while getting the good 3 series chassis and interior and looks. the M sports all have distinctive body kits, wheels, firmer suspension settings. Chances are you are lookIng at the sedan, if not, go for the 118 hatch. Same engine...

Or you can wait fof the next gen cars to come in a few yrs and buy a used E90 318 M Sport because the price goes down. Or the next gen 1 series which is due next yr as a 2012. Also BMW has confirmed that they will build a FWD BMW---which means he end of the world is near!
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 25, 2010, 06:07:17 AM
Get the M3 instead of better yet the M6
Cant get insured on M3,well I can but its gonna be 2400euro a year
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 06:31:55 AM
Cant get insured on M3,well I can but its gonna be 2400euro a year
The 318s stop coming to America because, Americans are badgewhores, and the 4 cylinders did not sell well with the hatch (318ti). Since the 3 is seen as a status symbol, nobody will fork over money foe a 4 cylinder.  But that might change, because 4 cylinders are planned for the next gen 1 series.

As a aside, I have seen a number of e36 3 series (mid to late 90s boxy 3 series) rebadged as M3s by their owners. Rebadging is the ultimate in wannabe poseurs.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2010, 06:44:08 AM
The 318s stop coming to America because, Americans are badgewhores, and the 4 cylinders did not sell well with the hatch (318ti). Since the 3 is seen as a status symbol, nobody will fork over money foe a 4 cylinder.  But that might change, because 4 cylinders are planned for the next gen 1 series.

As a aside, I have seen a number of e36 3 series (mid to late 90s boxy 3 series) rebadged as M3s by their owners. Rebadging is the ultimate in wannabe poseurs.
Parker what do you mean by rebadging?
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 06:54:56 AM
remove the 320, etc badge, and stick on a M3 badge...
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2010, 06:55:59 AM
remove the 320, etc badge, and stick on a M3 badge...
Oh ok so I got a 325i so just rebadge it to a M3 cool bro.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 06:57:33 AM
Parker what do you mean by rebadging?
Kinda like what Nasser did. They take the badge off their car, like a 318 or 325, and slap on a M3 badge. Of couse you can tell because of the bodypanels exhaust, mirrors, doors, wheels, brakes, and interior that it is not a M3. I have gotten into arguments on YouTube with a  dude who badged his 850CSi with a ///M symbol because the M Division developed the 850CSi, but it was not a full M car, plus his has a 6 liter. Then there are those who put "M8" on their 8 series, but there is only one M8, and it was a prototype.

Was reading a forum where a guy said he say a dude with a ///M on his 135i, said the guy wouldn't look at him.

Also, people will take the Sonata badge off of their Hyundai and put the Jaguar badge and hood ornament on their car. I have seen a Mercedes Benz SLK 230 rebadged as a 430 (with a V8)---it neither looked nor sounded like a 430, and at the time Mercedes didn't produce a SLK 430.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2010, 06:59:53 AM
Kinda like what Nasser did. They take the badge off their car, like a 318 or 325, and slap on a M3 badge. Of couse you can tell because of the bodypanels exhaust, mirrors, doors, wheels, brakes, and interior that it is not a M3. I have gotten into arguments on YouTube with a  dude who badged his 850CSi with a ///M symbol because the M Division developed the 850CSi, but it was not a full M car, plus his has a 6 liter. Then there are those who put "M8" on their 8 series, but there is only one M8, and it was a prototype.

Was reading a forum where a guy said he say a dude with a ///M on his 135i, said the guy wouldn't look at him.

Also, people will take the Sonata badge off of their Hyundai and put the Jaguar badge and hood ornament on their car. I have seen a Mercedes Benz SLK 230 rebadged as a 430 (with a V8)---it neither looked nor sounded like a 430, and at the time Mercedes didn't produce a SLK 430.
So this is a way when resell to get more out of a car it seems?
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 07:03:26 AM
So this is a way when resell to get more out of a car it seems?

more like deluded poser losers. although some buyers sadly fall for that shit
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 07:04:30 AM
Kinda like what Nasser did. They take the badge off their car, like a 318 or 325, and slap on a M3 badge. Of couse you can tell because of the bodypanels exhaust, mirrors, doors, wheels, brakes, and interior that it is not a M3. I have gotten into arguments on YouTube with a  dude who badged his 850CSi with a ///M symbol because the M Division developed the 850CSi, but it was not a full M car, plus his has a 6 liter. Then there are those who put "M8" on their 8 series, but there is only one M8, and it was a prototype.

Was reading a forum where a guy said he say a dude with a ///M on his 135i, said the guy wouldn't look at him.

Also, people will take the Sonata badge off of their Hyundai and put the Jaguar badge and hood ornament on their car. I have seen a Mercedes Benz SLK 230 rebadged as a 430 (with a V8)---it neither looked nor sounded like a 430, and at the time Mercedes didn't produce a SLK 430.

Idiots, Parker. Idiots.


Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2010, 07:06:20 AM
more like deluded poser losers. although some buyers sadly fall for that shit
I can see that especially at an auction.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 07:19:10 AM
Idiots, Parker. Idiots.



Yep, there is this video of Mexicans creating their own Beemer by putting on a Z3 front onto their Honda Civic, and their is a prevalance of some Mexicans to put the BMW badge on a Honda Civic. When asked why, the reply is "that means, Big Mexican Wiener".

To me it doesn't make sense, rebadging just shows your insecurity. So you can't afford a Jag, so you can't afford a M3, if you drive a 325 or 328-330, there are supercharger kits you can buy and bolt onto the car and you can beat a M3, while maintaining the sleeper look.

Nasser loses points because Bigbobs posted a pic of Nasser's Mercedes "AMG CL55" but it neither had the signature twin tail exhausts tips on each side that AMG models have, it had one on each side, the wheels and brakes were not the upgraded AMG versions, nor was the bodykit. I called him on that. And I lost respect for Nasser, seemed he was more about ego, and pretending.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Mr Nobody on March 25, 2010, 07:22:11 AM
Yep, there is this video of Mexicans creating their own Beemer by putting on a Z3 front onto their Honda Civic, and their is a prevalance of some Mexicans to put the BMW badge on a Honda Civic. When asked why, the reply is "that means, Big Mexican Wiener".

To me it doesn't make sense, rebadging just shows your insecurity. So you can't afford a Jag, so you can't afford a M3, if you drive a 325 or 328-330, there are supercharger kits you can buy and bolt onto the car and you can beat a M3, while maintaining the sleeper look.

Nasser loses points because Bigbobs posted a pic of Nasser's Mercedes "AMG CL55" but it neither had the signature twin tail exhausts tips on each side that AMG models have, it had one on each side, the wheels and brakes were not the upgraded AMG versions, nor was the bodykit. I called him on that. And I lost respect for Nasser, seemed he was more about ego, and pretending.
Yep Nasser supposedly owns a garage according to Team Nasser I'm suspect on that. Good info if he does this stuff he is dishonest and lost points in my eyes as well.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 07:23:06 AM
In south africa, due to sanctions, and a different market, in the 80's, 90's there were editions of bimmers limited to south african market.

The E30 325is "shadowline", evo I. II. 2.7l staight 6. aluminium panels, special body kit, bbs wheels

The E30 333 with the 2.8 from the E23 728i, nose heavy, much like the VR6

The E23 745i, with the 3.5 M88 motor (same as the 635csi, M1, E28 M5 sedan), 286 bhp in a 7 series back in 1984! The european model was the turbocharged 3.2 and later the 3.4 motors both producing 249bhp.

Limited edition E36 Evo II M3 4 door with the 3.2 motor

Limited edition 318is motorsport with the sports kit and "mildly" hot motor, avail in bright yellow, green, blue or red only...


Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 07:32:27 AM
In south africa, due to sanctions, and a different market, in the 80's, 90's there were editions of bimmers limited to south african market.

The E30 325is "shadowline", evo I. II. 2.7l staight 6. aluminium panels, special body kit, bbs wheels

The E30 333 with the 2.8 from the E23 728i, nose heavy, much like the VR6

The E23 745i, with the 3.5 M88 motor (same as the 635csi, M1, E28 M5 sedan), 286 bhp in a 7 series back in 1984! The european model was the turbocharged 3.2 and later the 3.4 motors both producing 249bhp.

Limited edition E36 Evo II M3 4 door with the 3.2 motor

Limited edition 318is motorsport with the sports kit and "mildly" hot motor, avail in bright yellow, green,
blue or red only...


I remember reading about these in Bimmer Magazine, a few yrs back.

Different markets different cars, as you know, America tends to get shafted when it comes to "special" editions or different variants. For instance, the E34 M3, we only got the 3.6 engine and not the 3.8, and what we did get had less hp than the Euro or SA versions!!!
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 07:36:20 AM
I remember reading about these in Bimmer Magazine, a few yrs back.

Different markets different cars, as you know, America tends to get shafted when it comes to "special" editions or different variants. For instance, the E34 M3, we only got the 3.6 engine and not the 3.8, and what we did get had less hp than the Euro or SA versions!!!

dont all american derivatives of european sports models get lesser powered units due to emmission laws?
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 07:42:49 AM
of course you always get the mentally challenged.

Ive seen a few E30 cars badged 350i... ::)

Like this guy that sloted a 302 in a E30 333i body

http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-cars-R35K-BMW-333i-V8-W0QQAdIdZ193898600 (http://capetown.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-cars-R35K-BMW-333i-V8-W0QQAdIdZ193898600)
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 07:46:58 AM
here's the real deal, except they didnt come with alpina wheels, nor alpina badging. The engine head cover did have alpina embossed on it, and they came with alpina bumpers and sills.

http://johannesburg.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-cars-R35K-bmw-333i-for-sale-W0QQAdIdZ189919986 (http://johannesburg.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-cars-R35K-bmw-333i-for-sale-W0QQAdIdZ189919986)
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 07:48:50 AM
dont all american derivatives of european sports models get lesser powered units due to emmission laws?
Yes, for most of them, the E46 M3 had the same engine as the Euro, but I believe due to emissions the US version made 333 vs 343. The E36 made a shit load less than the Euro version. The current E90/91/92 M3 US version is stated as making 414 hp, but in Europe 420.
But it works vice versa, the Corvette apparently makes less HP over there than here.


Yeah, that is stupid 350i. There is a vid of a guy with a BMW E36 M3 racecar and he put a 350 in it. Makes no sense. You ruined the car. But then there are those that do unholy swaps. Like in the Netherlands there is this guy who took a Mercedes SL (from the 90s)AMG and put in a 1500 hp e34 M5 motor in it. Another guy put a Lexus Twin Turbo V8 in a Nissan Silva



Yeah, Mr Nobody, I think Nasser slapped that badge on his Mercedes to try and fool people, because he wants people and himself to beleive he is bigger than what he is.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 07:53:08 AM
a Mercedes SL (from the 90s)AMG and put in a 1500 hp e34 M5 motor in it

 :o

slap some wings on, and he's ready to fly!
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 25, 2010, 07:55:06 AM
Heres the pic of the car
We are arguing over 300euro but im sticking to my principles
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Figo on March 25, 2010, 07:58:16 AM
Heres the pic of the car
We are arguing over 300euro but im sticking to my principles


comes with 18's? never seen a 318 M Sport, dont think we get a sport version here. unless you spec a 318i with extras...
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: JasonH on March 25, 2010, 07:59:18 AM
That's a nice car - I've been looking at the 320d ES SE model recently - heard good things about the fuel consumption and it's a strong possiblilty it's going to be my next car. I've got the money for the deposit and I'm also part-exchanging my current car, but I've still got to run a few tests on the internet to see how much my insurance is going to be before I commit myself.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: ManBearPig... on March 25, 2010, 08:00:54 AM
looks nice man.  if you like it and can afford it, why not get it?  you only live once.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 08:05:12 AM
here's the real deal, except they didnt come with alpina wheels, nor alpina badging. The engine head cover did have alpina embossed on it, and they came with alpina bumpers and sills.

http://johannesburg.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-cars-R35K-bmw-333i-for-sale-W0QQAdIdZ189919986 (http://johannesburg.gumtree.co.za/c-Cars-Vehicles-Motorbikes-Parts-cars-R35K-bmw-333i-for-sale-W0QQAdIdZ189919986)

nice. Figo, try looking for that SL here http://www.0-60mag.com/ (http://www.0-60mag.com/)
and I was wrong, I had to get out the magazine, it's 1,100 hp and the car is in Norway.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 08:07:32 AM
Heres the pic of the car
We are arguing over 300euro but im sticking to my principles

nice!! Stick to your guns, I have a feeling you have the winning hand.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 25, 2010, 08:08:02 AM
Id only get to drive it on evenings and sundays as im in work the rest of the time and already have a van I want to keep for work
But yeah il know in 2hours if he'll budge on the 300euro difference
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: the_steevo_uk on March 25, 2010, 08:09:38 AM
Unfortunately, Okami, we don't get that here in the States. Seem like that is a Euro or UK only car. I gather that it is 4 cylinder. Off the top don't know the hp ratings, but I would gather you get great economy while getting the good 3 series chassis and interior and looks. the M sports all have distinctive body kits, wheels, firmer suspension settings. Chances are you are lookIng at the sedan, if not, go for the 118 hatch. Same engine...

Or you can wait fof the next gen cars to come in a few yrs and buy a used E90 318 M Sport because the price goes down. Or the next gen 1 series which is due next yr as a 2012. Also BMW has confirmed that they will build a FWD BMW---which means he end of the world is near!

What do you drive Parker?...always had the feeling you'd be an Audi type!
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: CalvinH on March 25, 2010, 08:50:54 AM
and already have a van



Hi Vince!
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 25, 2010, 08:58:16 AM


Hi Vince!
I dont rape children though,much
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: CalvinH on March 25, 2010, 08:58:48 AM
I dont rape children though,much



Method?
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 25, 2010, 09:00:17 AM


Method?
Method dresses up as a tellytubby and molests boys
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Bobby on March 25, 2010, 09:06:58 AM
try to go for a 6 cyl bimmer, doesn't have to be M3 but 320,325,328 would be good 8)
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: bigbobs on March 25, 2010, 09:07:39 AM
Nasser loses points because Bigbobs posted a pic of Nasser's Mercedes "AMG CL55" but it neither had the signature twin tail exhausts tips on each side that AMG models have, it had one on each side, the wheels and brakes were not the upgraded AMG versions, nor was the bodykit. I called him on that. And I lost respect for Nasser, seemed he was more about ego, and pretending.

a)  Nasser does not care whether "Parker" from the internet has respect for him or not

b)  That is the way Nasser bought the vehicle.  He is not the type to buy a badge or anything of that sort, anyone who knows him would say this.  He just likes to live and ride in style and does not know or care about specific models or badging and what not.  You on the other hand, seem to know so much about cars you will never own.

c)  Nasser must really live in your head for you to be bringing him up in Okami's BMW thread lol
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 11:07:09 AM
What do you drive Parker?...always had the feeling you'd be an Audi type!
Lexus IS300...love it, will not get rid of it.

And Bibbobs, so you are saying Nasser was ignorant of what he was buying? "he does not know or care about specific badges..." yet you state that he like to ride in style. Which would indicate that he cares about badges, because he got a Merc CL. Plus that was not your argument before.
Also, I brought up Nasser because of the topic of "rebadging".
And Nasser may have been cheated, because if correct, you stated he bought the car without knowing (a lie) what is was, they could charge him a premium over the real CL coupe.

I know about cars, some exotic, some muscle, some not. Regardless of what I can afford. I know a lot about flora and fauna, R&B, music in general, in short I'm a polymath.
You know a awful lo about Nasser, whom you'll never be like or "own" no matter how close you get. I think it's safe to say, what I know is normal, what you know is beyond that.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: bigbobs on March 25, 2010, 11:46:11 AM
Lexus IS300...love it, will not get rid of it.

And Bibbobs, so you are saying Nasser was ignorant of what he was buying? "he does not know or care about specific badges..." yet you state that he like to ride in style. Which would indicate that he cares about badges, because he got a Merc CL. Plus that was not your argument before.
Also, I brought up Nasser because of the topic of "rebadging".
And Nasser may have been cheated, because if correct, you stated he bought the car without knowing (a lie) what is was, they could charge him a premium over the real CL coupe.

I know about cars, some exotic, some muscle, some not. Regardless of what I can afford. I know a lot about flora and fauna, R&B, music in general, in short I'm a polymath.
You know a awful lo about Nasser, whom you'll never be like or "own" no matter how close you get. I think it's safe to say, what I know is normal, what you know is beyond that.

Bottom line Nasser has nice ride(s) and enjoys driving them but does not know or care to look into whether it has single or dual exhausts or what not lol, but he is definitely not the type to re-badge a vehicle.  Why you are obsessed with it to be mentioning it in an unrelated thread years later while making false accusations and attacking him over it I find very strange, definitely not "normal" as you claim
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 11:57:58 AM
Bottom line Nasser has nice ride(s) and enjoys driving them but does not know or care to look into whether it has single or dual exhausts or what not lol, but he is definitely not the type to re-badge a vehicle.  Why you are obsessed with it to be mentioning it in an unrelated thread years later while making false accusations and attacking him over it I find very strange, definitely not "normal" as you claim
You don't get it do you? I was citing him as a example when talking about rebadging. We were talking about it and I gave examples, and Nasser was not the only one. I don't see the dude from Laurel, MD with the 850CSi that he put a ///M badge on here? Nor the guy who put a M3 badge on a E36 318i coupe that I mentioned. These were just two examples. Further more, you get all up in riot over this. When offer silly explanations that make Nasser seem more like a badgewhore or a woman, to his cars, than anything else.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: APE907 on March 25, 2010, 12:00:18 PM
Anybody who buys an AMG should damn well be invested in knowing if it is genuine or a fake.  There are prob more fake-ass AMGs and M series BMWs running around then there are real ones.  Little cues like tailpipes, badging and wheels are usually the give-aways to the trained eye.  There is nothing lamer than a fake "upgraded" car.

And I second the opinion above about shooting for a straight 6 BMW instead of the 4 banger.  The difference is immense in terms of smoothness, power and aftermarket parts availability.  Straight 6s (Lexus and BMW) are a joy to own and drive not to mention they give off an exotic exhaust note unlike any other configuration.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: bigbobs on March 25, 2010, 12:09:42 PM
You don't get it do you? I was citing him as a example when talking about rebadging. We were talking about it and I gave examples, and Nasser was not the only one. I don't see the dude from Laurel, MD with the 850CSi that he put a ///M badge on here? Nor the guy who put a M3 badge on a E36 318i coupe that I mentioned. These were just two examples. Further more, you get all up in riot over this. When offer silly explanations that make Nasser seem more like a badgewhore or a woman, to his cars, than anything else.


You wrongly accused him of rebadging his vehicle, said you "lost respect" for him (oh brother  ::)) and attacked him in general, all over some posts over a year ago - if you still think there is nothing unusual in that there's no hope in me trying to explain any further.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 12:09:59 PM
Anybody who buys an AMG should damn well be invested in knowing if it is genuine or a fake.  There are prob more fake-ass AMGs and M series BMWs running around then there are real ones.  Little cues like tailpipes, badging and wheels are usually the give-aways to the trained eye.  There is nothing lamer than a fake "upgraded" car.

And I second the opinion above about shooting for a straight 6 BMW instead of the 4 banger.  The difference is immense in terms of smoothness, power and aftermarket parts availability.  Straight 6s (Lexus and BMW) are a joy to own and drive not to mention they give off an exotic exhaust note unlike any other configuration.
Exactly, how can one claim that someone so smart knows all these languages, cares not about whether he has the real McCoy or a knockoff? He just likes to drive in style ::)

Furthermore if you call in to get a part replaced, or take it in to the dealer or a independent shop, they asked what type of car you have. If you say "CL55 AMG", depending on the part, it is specifically for that
car. If you have a rebadged car and don't know it, when you take it in, the part will not fit. So it pays to be knowlwdgeable about what you have, especially something that goes for 6 figures brand new, or 35-60 used.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 12:16:26 PM
You wrongly accused him of rebadging his vehicle, said you "lost respect" for him (oh brother  ::)) and attacked him in general, all over some posts over a year ago - if you still think there is nothing unusual in that there's no hope in me trying to explain any further.
How did I wrongly accuse him? There is no proof that he didn't. Burden of proof is on the owner of the car. If he sells it, will he sell it as a CL55 Amg? Or not. The new owner will think he rebadged it. Proof is on Nasser. Furthermore, his wasn't the arguement you offered before. Now the story has changed to pleading of ignorance. Do you know how many criminals use that? Sorry dude, you rolling with wrong one on this.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: bigbobs on March 25, 2010, 12:24:11 PM
How did I wrongly accuse him? There is no proof that he didn't. Burden of proof is on the owner of the car. If he sells it, will he sell it as a CL55 Amg? Or not. The new owner will think he rebadged it. Proof is on Nasser. Furthermore, his wasn't the arguement you offered before. Now the story has changed to pleading of ignorance. Do you know how many criminals use that? Sorry dude, you rolling with wrong one on this.

I'm not "arguing" anything except for the fact that Nasser did not and is not the type to rebadge a vehicle.  So there are two possibilities - either you are wrong in thinking its not an original AMG and only contains the AMG kit or whatever (my original response last year), or Nasser purchased it that way (another possibility).  I still think it could be either of the two possibilities, and it doesn't really matter as Nasser doesn't really care himself - he just likes having a few decent rides. 
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: bigbobs on March 25, 2010, 12:32:31 PM
Only on getbig will an honest question about a potential BMW purchase turn into an exchange about Nasser - I didn't start it at least.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: bigbobs on March 25, 2010, 12:40:03 PM
And I second the opinion above about shooting for a straight 6 BMW instead of the 4 banger.  The difference is immense in terms of smoothness, power and aftermarket parts availability.  Straight 6s (Lexus and BMW) are a joy to own and drive not to mention they give off an exotic exhaust note unlike any other configuration.

Buying a 6 vs a 4 is not the same type of decision in Europe with their gas prices.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Bobby on March 25, 2010, 02:14:03 PM
Buying a 6 vs a 4 is not the same type of decision in Europe with their gas prices.

The BMW 6 cyl, especially after 1996 are made so well that they aren't that expensive to drive, you can get a great mpg with them if u want and then the power is there too. The BMW 328 96-99 has a M52B28 engine, a 2.8L straight 6. fantastic engine, great fuel consumption and 200hp.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: noworries on March 25, 2010, 02:15:46 PM
Do the M cars come with a fire extinguisher alongside the drivers seat.  They did back in the early 80's
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: bigbobs on March 25, 2010, 02:23:11 PM
Back to the topic if I was in the market for a car I'd get a Pontiac G8 over a 3-series BMW Sedan anyway, or the Chevy Camaro over the 3-series coupe.  Both American versions cost less, look better (IMO) and have much better performance.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Dreadlifter on March 25, 2010, 02:32:19 PM
Okami, i hope the new motor is a sign business is going well.

318i M is a pretty mice motor, i like the 1 series and a couple of guys i know have them but i'd take a 3 series anytime.

Seems nippy enough yet quite economical. I dunno how fuel prices are in Ireland (if anything like the UK ever-increasing) but if you're not gonna be driving it too much it's not really an issue.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: KevinP85 on March 25, 2010, 02:57:44 PM
Do the M cars come with a fire extinguisher alongside the drivers seat.  They did back in the early 80's


Not anymore, wish it was an option.
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: APE907 on March 25, 2010, 03:39:50 PM
Buying a 6 vs a 4 is not the same type of decision in Europe with their gas prices.

Agreed but doesn't change fact that a straight 6 is worth the extra $ (to me at least) - most (not all) 4cyl cars are pretty miserable beasts.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 04:36:07 PM
I'm not "arguing" anything except for the fact that Nasser did not and is not the type to rebadge a vehicle.  So there are two possibilities - either you are wrong in thinking its not an original AMG and only contains the AMG kit or whatever (my original response last year), or Nasser purchased it that way (another possibility).  I still think it could be either of the two possibilities, and it doesn't really matter as Nasser doesn't really care himself - he just likes having a few decent rides. 
A) I am not wrong.  That pic shows one oval tip on each side, no AMG bodykit, no AMG Wheels or brakes.But has a CL55 AMG  B) Maybe he bought it like that, but wouldn't he be too intellginet to be taken advantage of? Surely he's bought cars before. Surely, he knows how to make a deal?
C) Do you know how many people I see that say the same? "He's not that kind of guy." " I didn't know" BUULLLLSHITTT! As I said, you are rolling on the wrong one when it come to this. I deal with bullshit like this on the daily. And that story is weak, because it doesn't match up with the other story. The story that is was a CL55, and it was pointed out before...

Okami turbo 4 is possibly coming...
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: KevinP85 on March 25, 2010, 04:43:02 PM
A) I am not wrong.  That pic shows one oval tip on each side, no AMG bodykit, no AMG Wheels or brakes.But has a CL55 AMG  B) Maybe he bought it like that, but wouldn't he be too intellginet to be taken advantage of? Surely he's bought cars before. Surely, he knows how to make a deal?
C) Do you know how many people I see that say the same? "He's not that kind of guy." " I didn't know" BUULLLLSHITTT! As I said, you are rolling on the wrong one when it come to this. I deal with bullshit like this on the daily. And that story is weak, because it doesn't match up with the other story. The story that is was a CL55, and it was pointed out before...

Okami turbo 4 is possibly coming...



Especially if he bought i brand new, but either way that is CL500 runs over 100K and the AMG is roughly 150K or so, so he would have gotten screwed out of 50K or so.
Title: Re: To Parker...
Post by: Parker on March 25, 2010, 04:51:41 PM

Especially if he bought i brand new, but either way that is CL500 runs over 100K and the AMG is roughly 150K or so, so he would have gotten screwed out of 50K or so.
Yep and most importantly. NO AMG engine...Supercharged 5.5 liter engine.

"Oh, I'm the great Nasser, and I didn't know that this car had a CL55 AMG badge on it, but it is not a AMG. I speak 7 languages and I have multiple degrees. What's the difference between 100K and 150K to me? Egads, how can I get that swindler back?"
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: The Wizard of Truth on March 26, 2010, 03:15:58 AM
Okami, i hope the new motor is a sign business is going well.

318i M is a pretty mice motor, i like the 1 series and a couple of guys i know have them but i'd take a 3 series anytime.

Seems nippy enough yet quite economical. I dunno how fuel prices are in Ireland (if anything like the UK ever-increasing) but if you're not gonna be driving it too much it's not really an issue.
Yeah business is going very well thankfully.I can write the price of the car off against my tax as its down as a company car so thats good.
Petrol here is very expensive,the equivalent of $2 per litre but I estimate il only do about 3000miles a year in it
Title: Re: Your opinion on BMW 318i M Sport
Post by: Figo on March 26, 2010, 04:00:27 AM
how can one just buy a CL55AMG, and not even know, nor care if its the real deal? Nasser is a clever man, I doubt he'd be careless with his cash, and fork out double the cash for a (at the time) flagship model. There are several visual clues, as well as paperwork, and a big heads-up is whats under the bonnet.

even if I knew nothing bout cars or a specific one, and just saw something nice Id like to park in garage, Id do my homework.

what probably happenned (not that I'll lose sleep over it ;D), is, he knew he was buying a CL-whatever model, knowing it was badged incorrectly, and left it badged CL55AMG, for whatever reason. Maybe he doesnt care, maybe he likes it like that.

Fact is, Nasser owns a CL55AMG badged vehicle thats not a CL55AMG. this is not a car board, there arent other examples around, why not use one bbing related thats been posted on board...

nothing to have a piss in Nassers-soiled-used-trunks over.