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Title: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ag2 on March 26, 2010, 02:23:47 PM
So with the right wing losing their mind and talking about taking back their country is it time that the racist rednecks in the USA will start a war because they cannot handle having a black president who passed healthcare?

If so this will prove once and for what a bunch of hypocrites the republicans are
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: lvtolft on March 26, 2010, 02:25:41 PM
Interesting idea, but would never happen.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 26, 2010, 02:27:54 PM
we can only pray that will happen....
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: G_Thang on March 26, 2010, 02:33:49 PM


Race War!  LOL!

Stupid NA...got bigger problems over the next 40 yrs.  Inca Boys in a neighborhood near you.  Hahaha...AA are too mixed n have had a horrible growth rate over the last 10 yrs vs Mexican migration.  The rest of us immigrate are so small we dont even matter in a head count.  Stupid North Americans.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Method101 on March 26, 2010, 02:35:45 PM
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Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 26, 2010, 02:37:30 PM
seriously, with all the free porn available, I don't know how anyone can stay upset for that long to even want to start a war

btw, i'm not trying to make a "inappropriate joke in a serious thread"-  seriously, has anyone been angry after they came?
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: funk51 on March 26, 2010, 02:38:26 PM
So with the right wing losing their mind and talking about taking back their country is it time that the racist rednecks in the USA will start a war because they cannot handle having a black president who passed healthcare?

If so this will prove once and for what a bunch of hypocrites the republicans are
i said this was going to happen long ago. the last three presidents are the signs, clinton=horndog. bush=retarded. obama=pure evil.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Coach is Back! on March 26, 2010, 02:42:48 PM
Taking back out country means voting the marxists, socialists and communists out of office in Nov
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 26, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
seriously, with all the free porn available, I don't know how anyone can stay upset for that long to even want to start a war

btw, i'm not trying to make a "inappropriate joke in a serious thread"-  seriously, has anyone been angry after they came?

actually, i think i answered my own question

see, most of these people who are "angry" or "want to start a civil war" REALLY need to get laid more

honestly, when was the last time you saw George Clooney, Me or that Prime Minister of France ever get angry enough to hurt a bunch of other people?
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: benchmstr on March 26, 2010, 02:48:55 PM
Taking back out country means voting the marxists, socialists and communists out of office in Nov
that wont work...this country has set its course for civil war over 20 years ago.....it just needs a little more time to brew...

bench
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: lvtolft on March 26, 2010, 02:51:52 PM
actually, i think i answered my own question

see, most of these people who are "angry" or "want to start a civil war" REALLY need to get laid more

honestly, when was the last time you saw George Clooney, Me or that Prime Minister of France ever get angry enough to hurt a bunch of other people?
I couldn't agree with you more. 
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Danny on March 26, 2010, 02:55:03 PM
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Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 26, 2010, 02:55:48 PM
I couldn't agree with you more. 

not to add more validity to my own beliefs but when was the last time you saw one of those "tea party movement" guys and said to yourself "Yeah- that guy totally gets blown on a regular basis"?
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: G_Thang on March 26, 2010, 02:58:29 PM
yet...another thread about how i know politics n all that jazz.  yawn.

the usa has a migration problem where as it is absorbing 30-45M of the poor, uneducated and working class of another country.  dont think there is a euro country taking on that many africans, turks, romanians, etc at this moment.  

the above was set in motion before obama even thought about running for office.  coach...you are an a$$.    
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: #1 Klaus fan on March 26, 2010, 03:30:58 PM
yet...another thread about how i know politics n all that jazz.  yawn.

the usa has a migration problem where as it is absorbing 30-45M of the poor, uneducated and working class of another country.  dont think there is a euro country taking on that many africans, turks, romanians, etc at this moment.  

the above was set in motion before obama even thought about running for office.  coach...you are an a$$.    

Why doesn't USA keep the border secure? Is it a political thing, a money thing?
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Parker on March 26, 2010, 03:36:35 PM
seriously, with all the free porn available, I don't know how anyone can stay upset for that long to even want to start a war

btw, i'm not trying to make a "inappropriate joke in a serious thread"-  seriously, has anyone been angry after they came?

A cool "head" prevails after 'cumming'. One actually thinks straight.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 26, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
(http://nonsai.com/pics/palinfascist.jpg)

what a walking cliche you are.  what level of intelligence can someone boast of  when they think they are being edgy regurgitating the media talking points about palin.

calling her a fascist (when she really is just a dumb hillbilly)

while obama an pelosi wage war against americans right to speak freely, think freely, and act according to their own desires.  presiding over the biggest transfer of power from the private sector to the govt. since the new deal.

and this guy thinks he is witty.

drink some more of the kool-aid

dumbfuck...



Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 26, 2010, 04:00:45 PM
A cool "head" prevails after 'cumming'. One actually thinks straight.

bigbobs digs nasser's cum out of his tush....... turns to the east and .....curses allah for his sexuality placing him at odds with his religion

 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Parker on March 26, 2010, 04:35:49 PM
So with the right wing losing their mind and talking about taking back their country is it time that the racist rednecks in the USA will start a war because they cannot handle having a black president who passed healthcare?

If so this will prove once and for what a bunch of hypocrites the republicans are
Taking back the country? The rich have always had this country. The idiots just fall in line like lemmings, idiots almost are never given or get power for a reason, And they know this.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 26, 2010, 05:30:37 PM
Why doesn't USA keep the border secure? Is it a political thing, a money thing?

A very good question.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Parker on March 26, 2010, 05:39:06 PM
A very good question.
the answer to that question is arrogance and money. We have alway had and needed cheap labor. Rich people don't like to do manual work---get others to do it. Follow this---indentured servitude, then slavery, then Chinese workers, then Euro immigration (cheap labor), the Indians and SE Asians, then Mexicans, then other Latinos. See a pattern here?

The lower border also serves as a way to get a certain allowable amount of illegal drugs in this country--it pays to keep a certain amount of the out population addicted to drugs.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: G_Thang on March 26, 2010, 05:39:40 PM
Why doesn't USA keep the border secure? Is it a political thing, a money thing?

hahaha...for what?  most poor mexicans are mizo which means they are the great great great grandchildren of native indians.  they just taken back what is their's.  it's more migration (21st century hunters n gathers) than immigration.

Coming Soon!  Inca Boys in your Comunidade.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: evandatp on March 26, 2010, 06:09:46 PM
seriously, with all the free porn available, I don't know how anyone can stay upset for that long to even want to start a war

btw, i'm not trying to make a "inappropriate joke in a serious thread"-  seriously, has anyone been angry after they came?
Make love to your hand not war with your fists.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Natural Man on March 26, 2010, 06:24:07 PM
as long as the fridge is full and TV keeps broadcasting soaps shows and sport events, there wont be any revolution.  This our elites understood a loong time ago.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 26, 2010, 06:24:24 PM
"they" have silently been implementing big brother technology to levels we wouldn't even believe today...Any uprising is under total control of the CIA...Hell most people can't drive down the road without seeing what "they" are capable of...ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THAT YOU SHOULD BE PART OF SOMETHING IS EITHER RETARDED OR COINTEL...The way to fight back is to not have kids and die and move on to the next dimension...These fools are only in power because the retarded keep having kids...This dimension has been targeted for termination 1000s of years ago...Its exactly why its been taken over by garbage...
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 26, 2010, 06:30:57 PM
hahaha...for what?  most poor mexicans are mizo which means they are the great great great grandchildren of native indians.  they just taken back what is their's.  it's more migration (21st century hunters n gathers) than immigration.

Coming Soon!  Inca Boys in your Comunidade.

they are dirt....and they will get nothing.

sure guilt-ridden white liberals will let them come here and shit out kids, commit crime, and ride the system like so many parasites

but they will never hold any actual wealth or tangible power, because they are genetically inferior  (and if that "they" includes you, well, must suck)
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 26, 2010, 06:31:17 PM
"they" have silently been implementing big brother technology to levels we wouldn't even believe today...Any uprising is under total control of the CIA...Hell most people can't drive down the road without seeing what "they" are capable of...ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THAT YOU SHOULD BE PART OF SOMETHING IS EITHER RETARDED OR COINTEL...The way to fight back is to not have kids and die and move on to the next dimension...These fools are only in power because the retarded keep having kids...This dimension has been targeted for termination 1000s of years ago...Its exactly why its been taken over by garbage...

As soon as a "scum" dimension understands the Atom, they are targeted for termination...what happens is the "other" dimension let the "scum" dimension freeze over...The "scum" dimension higher ups understand what is going on and it is a total fight to the finish...
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 26, 2010, 06:33:34 PM
As soon as a "scum" dimension understands the Atom, they are targeted for termination...what happens is the "other" dimension let the "scum" dimension freeze over...The "scum" dimension higher ups understand what is going on and it is a total fight to the finish...
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Spoony Luv on March 26, 2010, 06:36:01 PM
I've been taught this through DMT/LSD technology...Take it for what its worth...Truth is you never die and always move on...However, its always up to you...In this dimension you know shit is totally wrong yet many keep on feeding the 'scum'...Mostly because of what you are taught by your "parents"...
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 26, 2010, 06:38:13 PM
honestly the Confederate states should have been allowed to leave the union, after all each state entered into a union on their own free will. once the northern states said 'no you cannot leave, if you try we will have to kill you all', the whole thing just became the same oppressive tyranny they had sought to replace.

personally i think most of the south is a shithole filled with backward minded idiots, but truth is they should have had the right to seperate and make their own country. the North subjugated them through force of arms and violence to stay under their control, but the core differences in ideology that ignited the civil war remain to this very day. it never got solved.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Captain Equipoise on March 26, 2010, 06:50:47 PM
I've been taught this through DMT/LSD technology...Take it for what its worth...Truth is you never die and always move on...However, its always up to you...In this dimension you know shit is totally wrong yet many keep on feeding the 'scum'...Mostly because of what you are taught by your "parents"...
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Joe Rogan is that you !?!
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Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 26, 2010, 06:53:43 PM
bottom line- if you want to prevent a civil war, anytime you see a ugly person- SHOOT THEM


anytime you see a ugly person, you see a person who disgruntled/self hating enough to start civil unrest
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on March 26, 2010, 09:20:59 PM
bottom line- if you want to prevent a civil war, anytime you see a ugly person- SHOOT THEM


anytime you see a ugly person, you see a person who disgruntled/self hating enough to start civil unrest

To recap JNN...I am only angry wanting civil war when I am on toooooo much Test and my hooker money ran out...That and I have to return some videos....
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Flexb on March 26, 2010, 09:23:52 PM
So with the right wing losing their mind and talking about taking back their country is it time that the racist rednecks in the USA will start a war because they cannot handle having a black president who passed healthcare?

If so this will prove once and for what a bunch of hypocrites the republicans are

Why would the racists care that he passed healthcare? Isn't that a good thing for all?  ???
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: JaggyShortBuff on March 26, 2010, 09:25:40 PM
Why would the racists care that he passed healthcare? Isn't that a good thing for all?  ???

It is an excuse the femocratics are using for their candidate being a crazy liberal.....
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ShipSekki on March 26, 2010, 10:35:13 PM
 The Government has got the USA on lock down.

 The USA people could fight against each other like animals. Which is what liberal and conservative morons are already doing.

 But a successful revolution against the Government would be extremely difficult. They have got a concentration camp waiting with your name on it if you try to be a hero. It would take a massive, unified movement similar to the velvet revolution in Czechoslovakia to bring a change.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 26, 2010, 11:11:51 PM
honestly the Confederate states should have been allowed to leave the union, after all each state entered into a union on their own free will. once the northern states said 'no you cannot leave, if you try we will have to kill you all', the whole thing just became the same oppressive tyranny they had sought to replace.

personally i think most of the south is a shithole filled with backward minded idiots, but truth is they should have had the right to seperate and make their own country. the North subjugated them through force of arms and violence to stay under their control, but the core differences in ideology that ignited the civil war remain to this very day. it never got solved.


there is a reason for that, why there seems to be so many idiots and dullards in the south and why its such a backwater

after the south was defeated, lincoln instructed general sherman and others to march in to south, burn its cities to the ground, and kill all the best and brightest young men they had left (so they could never rise again against the union).  this is added to the hundreds of thousands of it brightest young men that already died fighting the war.

all that remained after this was the backwater white trash, and of course the wonderful black peoples

the south prior to the war was a great cultural center, and had many many talented and sophisticated people

its really sad, even today 2 centuries later you can look at the south; the lack of education, the poverty, the rednecks,........and see the visible effects of this slaughter
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: TEsticles on March 27, 2010, 12:18:57 AM

there is a reason for that, why there seems to be so many idiots and dullards in the south and why its such a backwater

after the south was defeated, lincoln instructed general sherman and others to march in to south, burn its cities to the ground, and kill all the best and brightest young men they had left (so they could never rise again against the union).  this is added to the hundreds of thousands of it brightest young men that already died fighting the war.

all that remained after this was the backwater white trash, and of course the wonderful black peoples

the south prior to the war was a great cultural center, and had many many talented and sophisticated people

its really sad, even today 2 centuries later you can look at the south; the lack of education, the poverty, the rednecks,........and see the visible effects of this slaughter

...and another example on a larger scale is ww2, where so many people died and the muslim population was hardly affected in terms of birth rates, hence the balance of numbers in todays world........

In greece  20 - 30 yrs ago, the greeks didnt want to do the crap farming labour, so they allow the gypsies to come in to do it,  which led to an overflow of filthy theiving gypsies. now the gypsies wont do that kind of work so their bringing in the albanians, and muslims.....the cycle repeats and what your left with is a multicultural sewer.
slowly but surely greece starts to lose its identity, the gypsy now has the vote as the others will ,  the country deteriorates  into shite ,not to mention the crime rate  and all the other crap that follows ............. sound familiar?
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Voice of Doom on March 27, 2010, 12:56:20 AM
Dont fall into the liberal/conservative trap that television media feeds you.  The main point of this bill is to continue to prop up the US Dollar.
 Let me explain.
 Nothing happens by this government if it isn't good for big business.  Never has and never will.  Nixon took us off of the gold standard in 1971 after the cost of the Vietnam war was resulting in large dispersals of American gold to the foriegn governments that were lending us the money to fight.  Since then the dollar has been only backed up by the full 'faith and credit' of the American government and we have billions of dollars of debt we sell every month to the international market.  
 The problem is that the international market is tapped out and weary of buying more American debt.  They worry, and rightly so, that the Fed through it's dummy corporations are buying the largest chunks of this debt.  This way it looks like their appears to be a good 'market' for our dollar and it raises its value and draws foreign capital.  This is refered to as 'monetizing' and in lay man's terms means that we are printing the money we owe from nothing.  This devalues the dollar holdings of our creditors and is considerd an extremely dangerous sign.
  In order for the dollar to look strong several things have to happen.  The first is that the price of PMs has to stay relatively low.  This is done by advertised sales of large quantities by central banks.  The advertising of large supplies of PMs (precious metals) stirs fears in investors and starts a sell off...lowering the price.  This option was very successful through the 80's and 90's but is no longer sufficient to hold the price down.  When the 2008 crisis hit Gold and Silver moved higher against the dollar...probably closer to their 'true' value and central banks around the world have been increasing their PM reserves in large quantities
  Another way we prop up the dollar is through the buying of oil.  You can't buy oil in any other currency.  This creates a demand for dollars.  That demand pushes up their value.  Iraq publicized allowing the Euro to buy their local oil about six months before we invaded.  Iraq realized that they could break the monopoly of the dollar and make more money trading against it by having a reserve of Euros.  Iran is also contemplating a similar move.  Notice how both countries are portrayed by the American media.
  Another way to prop up the dollar is through the stock market.  When American stocks rise international investors buy dollars.  This also creates a demand and inflates their appearance.  The Bush 2008 bailout was done to pay back international investors who could have made things very sticky for the US in such a tough time.  It's also the reason Obama was chosen as he represented a less bullied foriegn policy and countries that we need to invest would feel less pushed around than under Bush, it's also the reason he won the Nobel...strictly geopolitical.  
  All the big investors know that the return of the Market after Obama's bailout was another bubble.  They also know that when the government handouts end there is a very good chance of deflation.  Deflation under an interest bearing currency system cannot be allowed to happen...not until they decide to crash it completely.  
  However, the governments bailing out of the market is playing particulary bad and there is genuine concern among the elites that they have to 'remold' their plans to pacify the international investors and the American public.  To do this they needs a hefty public investment in the market...a permanent yearly investment.  Bush couldn't get this done in 2005 with his privatize social security policies so a 'liberal' democrat was brought in and the 'health care' concept sold to the public.
  Since 2008 the American public's savings rate has gone to early 1970's levels.  Its the natural thing for people to do in an uncertain economic time.  The problem is that the US's GDP is 70% based on the public's spending.  The elites cannot allow the American public to pull back on their spending so they institute two specific measures.  The first is a .25% interest rate.  This means that your money sitting in a savings account is earning almost nothing.  If a market rally can be inflated it encources people to put their savings in where they can try to earn something.  The other option is to tax the money from them but new taxes are politcally unpopular.  So along come mandates.  These mandates make it federal law that the public has to purchase goods and services from a private, market driven, industry.  
  What's happened is that 1/6 of the GDP has just been solidified into the market and with the American obesity rate and high medical costs this should add a hefty increase to a stagnant market and shaky US dollar.

That's all it was.  The posturing and theatre of the actors on television was just for the benefit of the market group they represent.  Don't be fooled.

The greatest fraud of all is to keep American's fighting each other while the elites make off with all the money.  Always has been.

There is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ~UN_$ung~ on March 27, 2010, 01:06:29 AM

...and another example on a larger scale is ww2, where so many people died and the muslim population was hardly affected in terms of birth rates, hence the balance of numbers in todays world........

In greece  20 - 30 yrs ago, the greeks didnt want to do the crap farming labour, so they allow the gypsies to come in to do it,  which led to an overflow of filthy theiving gypsies. now the gypsies wont do that kind of work so their bringing in the albanians, and muslims.....the cycle repeats and what your left with is a multicultural sewer.
slowly but surely greece starts to lose its identity, the gypsy now has the vote as the others will ,  the country deteriorates  into shite ,not to mention the crime rate  and all the other crap that follows ............. sound familiar?


we have lost the concept of a "nation"......the word "nation" basically means "family".....its a peoples with a common ancestry, identity, and purpose......europe and america have just de-volved into crime ridden, identity-less, multi--cultural sewers.  we have given up our identity, its gone.

and the jews who control the media and the way information is disseminated laugh, as they encourage this racial pluralism through TV and print (but then go home and instruct their children to marry jewish, not to mix, and propagate their identity).  some of the biggest liberal jews, media moguls, politicians publicly rally for diversity and mixing.........go home and are militant about sticking with their own, only breeding with their own, only doing business with their own.

whites of european descent have let themselves become laughing stocks...
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Method101 on March 27, 2010, 02:34:18 AM
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Griffith on March 27, 2010, 03:38:26 AM

...and another example on a larger scale is ww2, where so many people died and the muslim population was hardly affected in terms of birth rates, hence the balance of numbers in todays world........
Ironic, that the war they started led to the exact opposite of their aims, severely reducing the European population, killing off a lot of good genttics, and ending white colonialism around the world.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 27, 2010, 04:22:04 AM
America needs to get rid of their private central bank "The Federal Reserve", allow the government to create its own money interest free and backed by something tangible, allow the free market to set interest rates and banks to have tigher reserve requirements.


Check this graph out with explaination below:


(http://www.swarmusa.com/vb4/attachment.php?s=7cbd496fa405bcc9bea71a4f98419d37&attachmentid=116&d=1269116363)


This graph is from SwarmUSA, and it is one of the most critical graphs you may ever see. What it shows is the relationship that adding debt has to GDP. At first, adding debt (that is, borrowing from future economic activity in order to spend in present economic activity) produces a large gain in GDP- almost as large as the debt added. Over time though, adding that same amount of debt produces less return in immediate economic activity. People and businesses are leery of spending even though more credit has been injected into the economy because they are hindered by their debt load. Eventually, the madness of trying to "borrow our way to prosperity" becomes inescapable. The additional debt produces zero gain in GDP, and even goes to negative. That's where we are now.

Looks like the US has gone past the point of no return, new debt created these days reduces the GDP instead of increasing it like in the past.


Well I'm glad someone here is informed enough to respond to Doom's excellent post.

As for me, I like turtles.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Natural Man on March 28, 2010, 08:45:38 AM
Ironic, that the war they started led to the exact opposite of their aims, severely reducing the European population, killing off a lot of good genttics, and ending white colonialism around the world.

like it or not, that's natural selection; our grandparents screwed, we are screwed. Karma law. In the future, fast reproducing communities like muslims, indians, chineses will replace caucasians while taking control of their countries and everything they invented. The remaning white people will have no other choice but to "mix" with em.

It's not like it's the firstime, a quick look at human history will show you it's always been that way.

Now it's not a matter of IF we re going to have to mix, it's a matter of WHO you want to mix with -or who your kids and grandchildren will have to breed/mix with-. I left europe cause i didnt want my kids to be forced to breed with blacks or muslims, and joined north america so instead of being forced to learn arab they ll have to learn english and spanish.

Most caucasians immigrants flee europe for north america cause even if it's going down the shitter as europe did, the best remains of the occidental world will be concentrated in north america. Europe will become a cesspool.

I feel for those who have no other choice but to stay there, cause they dont have money or degrees.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Voice of Doom on March 28, 2010, 09:33:44 AM
I like turtles too.  
 That graph is an excellent representation of the problems of an 'interest' bearing currency.  However, there isn't enough gold already processed above ground to equal the amount of 'dollars' in the market.  Gold would have to be around $5000/oz to even come close.  What is a more feasible idea is a basket of commodities, soy, oil, corn, gold, etc to use as a backing.  This is what the 'evil' chinese have been hinting at with the IMF recently.  The idea begin that a currency should have a hard, tangible reserve as its basis, and be able to trade 'without interest' for that commoditiy.  A speculative based fiat currency is like building your house on sand.
The graph shown above is an excellent example of the inherent problem of 'interest bearing' currency.   Since you are forced to buy the very currency used to pay the debt you will forever be 'in debt'...just the way the bankers want.  As long as the base economy that supports that fiat curreny is expanding through conquest, wealth appropriation or inflation, the 'ponzi' scheme continues to work.   This is the real basis for America's rise after the WW2 when we forced the international community to peg their currencies to the US dollar.  In 1971 Nixon made it law that US dollars would no longer be redeemed for gold from our federal reserve in Fort Knox because the French were taking huge amounts of physical gold in the run up to the Vietnam war.  While central bankers spout a philosophy that gold is a 'barbarous relic' and no longer functional in this 'modern' economy they are absolutely not willing to let it leave their stronghold....interestin g?
  Iran can openly speculate about going to the Euro because the Chinese and the Russians have hard contracts for oil outside of the Saudi/Isreali/American paradigm.  This is refered to as the BRIC alliance(brazil, russia, india and china).  These countries are doing business outside of US dollar cartel.
  The real reason that we are in Afganhistan has nothing to do with 'terrorists' in the media propagated sense.  We are there because 6 months before 9/11 the Taliban met with US officials in Texas to negotiate the amount they wanted to allow the gas/oil pipelines through their country.  They wanted too much so they had to go.  9/11 gave us the pretext for throwing them out and putting in Karzai as president.  Karzai's previous job was head of the American company that was negotiating the original pipeline...imagine that.    9/11 also gave us a pretext to take control of the Iraq oil fields which is why we have 19 'permanent' military bases in Southern Iraq, which is coincidentally where all the oil is.  We dont ever have to bring it to market we just sit on a commoditiy that has peaked and whose value will continue to rise.  It's money in the bank and more importantly it's veto power over the European union.  The EU, minus England, has been going its own way politcally since the seventies and with the collaps of the USSR they weren't feeling the need for a permanent US military presence anymore.  They began to make deals, on their own, with countries like Iraq and Russia for raw resources.  These deals brought them out from direct US control...which is always unacceptable.  So we invaded Iraq to break those deals.  Remember our media demonification of the French and Germans in the run up to the war?  It had nothing to do with 'freedom fries' and everything to do with breaking those contracts and controlling the resource in US dollars.
  The biggest thing happening now is that the great American beast is wounded and in trouble economically.  Because we can't keep our thumbs on everyone you are seeing the rise of competing organizations.  Countries that are banding together to push back against America's military and economic presence.  For example, you're seeing the rise of South America.  Chavez would never have been able to do any of what he does if this were the 1980's.  Putin wouldn't have been able to invade Georgia in 2007 and China certainly wouldn't be able to make monetary demands to the IMF on the international stage...never.
  It will be interesting to see how the American empire ends however empires rarely go quietly or peacefully...

  My recommendation to take advantage of this is to have some physical holdings of gold and silver in your portfolio.  If the Fed tries to inflate its way out of its international debt it will kill the dollar (and your savings) and drive up the price of PMs as investors and the public look for a place to preserve their wealth but more importantly if they try to constitute a new currency it will have to have a backing in PMs.  They always to do at the begining.  They will either do that through forced confiscation (Roosevelt 1933) or they will have to give you (the citizen) a fantastic exchange rate for your metals.  This exchange could mean you start out sitting pretty on a new currency.  This has been the end of every fiat currency in history...the US dollar is no different.  Makes you wonder why the Constitution calls for no centralized banking system and for money to be only gold and silver.  

Incidentally, if a new fiat currency comes into play and you trade your PMs in on a high note....quickly move that capital into real estate...it will be the next bubble.

There is no friend anywhere - Lao Tse
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: JOHN MATRIX on March 28, 2010, 09:36:03 AM

there is a reason for that, why there seems to be so many idiots and dullards in the south and why its such a backwater

after the south was defeated, lincoln instructed general sherman and others to march in to south, burn its cities to the ground, and kill all the best and brightest young men they had left (so they could never rise again against the union).  this is added to the hundreds of thousands of it brightest young men that already died fighting the war.

all that remained after this was the backwater white trash, and of course the wonderful black peoples

the south prior to the war was a great cultural center, and had many many talented and sophisticated people

its really sad, even today 2 centuries later you can look at the south; the lack of education, the poverty, the rednecks,........and see the visible effects of this slaughter

yes this is true, most people dont realize the true scale of the carnage that took place. the south was so determined in their effort, the North realize the only way to fully get them under control again was to literally kill every man of fighting age and to utterly destroy their infrastructure and economy. its pretty sick, not to mention absurdly ironic, what was done to the south by those claiming to be their 'countrymen'.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: dr.chimps on March 28, 2010, 09:45:22 AM
There is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse
'We have met the enemy and he is us' - Pogo     ;)
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: johnnynoname on March 28, 2010, 10:37:27 AM
To recap JNN...I am only angry wanting civil war when I am on toooooo much Test and my hooker money ran out...That and I have to return some videos....

I love that movie
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Megalodon on March 28, 2010, 11:19:15 AM
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Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ManBearPig... on March 28, 2010, 12:30:56 PM
hahaha...for what?  most poor mexicans are mizo which means they are the great great great grandchildren of native indians.  they just taken back what is their's.  it's more migration (21st century hunters n gathers) than immigration.

Coming Soon!  Inca Boys in your Comunidade.

Jesus, you're a dumb spook broken record.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Parker on March 28, 2010, 12:46:49 PM
As Abe Lincoln had said prior to the Civil War, "A house divided against itself, will not stand"
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 28, 2010, 04:37:52 PM
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Great flick!!  See you at the beehive.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ShipSekki on March 28, 2010, 05:55:21 PM
 Today in the news. Police arrested a bunch of Christian religious freaks who formed a militia.

 The government is just waiting for you to try something. Then they'll send in the SWAT team to arrest your ass.

 Lockdown.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: G_Thang on March 28, 2010, 06:12:51 PM
Jesus, you're a dumb spook broken record.

interesting.

your mom es herself prostituta nos hoteis e deixando a dignidade no lixo (trash).  

i bet she more broken.  :o  
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Method101 on March 28, 2010, 06:18:20 PM
As Abe Lincoln had said prior to the Civil War, "A house divided against itself, will not stand"
The founding fathers also oposed Black intergration into white society and only wanted immigration to come from European countries.

Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ShipSekki on March 28, 2010, 06:20:21 PM
The founding fathers also oposed Black intergration into white society and only wanted immigration to come from European countries.



 They also fucked donkeys and goats. Who cares about them? It's the 21st century now.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Parker on March 28, 2010, 06:20:37 PM
The founding fathers also oposed Black intergration into white society and only wanted immigration to come from European countries.


The founding fathers were all for intergration, within the sheets, with their chocolate treats.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: G_Thang on March 28, 2010, 06:22:36 PM
They also fucked donkeys and goats. Who cares about them? It's the 21st century now.

u realize minorities just want an equal cut of the money pie.  we aint that in love with you.

(http://tommyimages.com/Stock_Photos/Caribbean/Cuba/Barrio_Chino/slides/Cuba_01_E_2_2-Cuban_Chinatown.jpg)
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: honest on March 28, 2010, 06:24:03 PM
great non bodybuilding thread, Doom and some other posters has some great insight and good knowledge of actual facts, not fabricated news by our biased media.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: ShipSekki on March 28, 2010, 06:35:01 PM
Dont fall into the liberal/conservative trap that television media feeds you.  The main point of this bill is to continue to prop up the US Dollar.
 Let me explain.
 Nothing happens by this government if it isn't good for big business.  Never has and never will.  Nixon took us off of the gold standard in 1971 after the cost of the Vietnam war was resulting in large dispersals of American gold to the foriegn governments that were lending us the money to fight.  Since then the dollar has been only backed up by the full 'faith and credit' of the American government and we have billions of dollars of debt we sell every month to the international market.  
 The problem is that the international market is tapped out and weary of buying more American debt.  They worry, and rightly so, that the Fed through it's dummy corporations are buying the largest chunks of this debt.  This way it looks like their appears to be a good 'market' for our dollar and it raises its value and draws foreign capital.  This is refered to as 'monetizing' and in lay man's terms means that we are printing the money we owe from nothing.  This devalues the dollar holdings of our creditors and is considerd an extremely dangerous sign.
  In order for the dollar to look strong several things have to happen.  The first is that the price of PMs has to stay relatively low.  This is done by advertised sales of large quantities by central banks.  The advertising of large supplies of PMs (precious metals) stirs fears in investors and starts a sell off...lowering the price.  This option was very successful through the 80's and 90's but is no longer sufficient to hold the price down.  When the 2008 crisis hit Gold and Silver moved higher against the dollar...probably closer to their 'true' value and central banks around the world have been increasing their PM reserves in large quantities
  Another way we prop up the dollar is through the buying of oil.  You can't buy oil in any other currency.  This creates a demand for dollars.  That demand pushes up their value.  Iraq publicized allowing the Euro to buy their local oil about six months before we invaded.  Iraq realized that they could break the monopoly of the dollar and make more money trading against it by having a reserve of Euros.  Iran is also contemplating a similar move.  Notice how both countries are portrayed by the American media.
  Another way to prop up the dollar is through the stock market.  When American stocks rise international investors buy dollars.  This also creates a demand and inflates their appearance.  The Bush 2008 bailout was done to pay back international investors who could have made things very sticky for the US in such a tough time.  It's also the reason Obama was chosen as he represented a less bullied foriegn policy and countries that we need to invest would feel less pushed around than under Bush, it's also the reason he won the Nobel...strictly geopolitical.  
  All the big investors know that the return of the Market after Obama's bailout was another bubble.  They also know that when the government handouts end there is a very good chance of deflation.  Deflation under an interest bearing currency system cannot be allowed to happen...not until they decide to crash it completely.  
  However, the governments bailing out of the market is playing particulary bad and there is genuine concern among the elites that they have to 'remold' their plans to pacify the international investors and the American public.  To do this they needs a hefty public investment in the market...a permanent yearly investment.  Bush couldn't get this done in 2005 with his privatize social security policies so a 'liberal' democrat was brought in and the 'health care' concept sold to the public.
  Since 2008 the American public's savings rate has gone to early 1970's levels.  Its the natural thing for people to do in an uncertain economic time.  The problem is that the US's GDP is 70% based on the public's spending.  The elites cannot allow the American public to pull back on their spending so they institute two specific measures.  The first is a .25% interest rate.  This means that your money sitting in a savings account is earning almost nothing.  If a market rally can be inflated it encources people to put their savings in where they can try to earn something.  The other option is to tax the money from them but new taxes are politcally unpopular.  So along come mandates.  These mandates make it federal law that the public has to purchase goods and services from a private, market driven, industry.  
  What's happened is that 1/6 of the GDP has just been solidified into the market and with the American obesity rate and high medical costs this should add a hefty increase to a stagnant market and shaky US dollar.

That's all it was.  The posturing and theatre of the actors on television was just for the benefit of the market group they represent.  Don't be fooled.

The greatest fraud of all is to keep American's fighting each other while the elites make off with all the money.  Always has been.

There is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse

 Great post. You truely have to question everything that's happening in the news and dig much deeper for the truth.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: YngiweRhoads on March 28, 2010, 09:20:18 PM
Great post. You truely have to question everything that's happening in the news and dig much deeper for the truth.

Yep. There's lots of info regarding this on the net. Some of this stuff is the result of a little too much paranoia, but some of it is definitely factual.



The creator of the Zeitgeist flicks has some interesting ideas as well.

Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Voice of Doom on March 28, 2010, 09:49:28 PM
Thanks for the compliment.  

What really galls me are people who come out with 'strong' opinions that are almost word for word the propaganda put in their brains by the media.  It's like they believe that they are part of some special club that's getting the 'real' truth that everyone else is out to oppress.  The fact that they hear this 'real' truth in between ads for beer, viagra, football, stomach medicine, makeup and whatever else that medium is selling seem to be brushed away and rationalized.  And that comment goes for boths side of the debate.                  
  Domesticated primates have 'bred in' genetic fears and insecurities and those feelings are precisely what's played on by the elites.  DPs (domesticated primates) need to feel a part of a group.  There is no worse fear than being on the outside.  This fear comes from the very real threats posed in early human civilization.  Ostrization back then almost meant certain death...these days that instict is used to sell sports wear and political bumber stickers.  That fear if played correctly can be utilized for destruction and turned into hate.
  DP's are easily controlled if you place an enemy at their border.  In early human existence when an external threat appeared in the DP's territory it was essential to the survival of the pact that individualism be subjugated.  Everyone submitted to the Alpha DP's will until the threat was resolved.  These days that same instict is manipulated by the elites except the enemy is never destroyed, the threat never abated.  The american citizen is kept in a perpetual low level state of fear about their borders.  This was designed on purpose and became the defact controlling policy after WW2.  Americans have simply been submitting to the will of whatever threat the alpha DP says he (and it will always be a he) can protect them from.  Russians, Vietnamese, Sandanistas, west Germans, Cubans, Koreans, Iranians, Palestinians, Chinese, Terrorists...the list keeps growing and more 'rights' are always needed to be 'momentarilly' relinquished to propel these enemy at the gates.  These rights never return...never.  It's not that legitimate threats don't exist but if they didn't...they would be manufactured...think AlQueda.
  The conditioning starts early for humans.  You are separated into age groups, and then gender groups, and then groups based upon any skill you show.  You join the High School ralley to support the 'home coming' game.  Get it...home coming?  You sit in stands in matching uniforms and hoot and hollar like your ancestors in the trees hoping to frighten away the visiting tiger that's wandered into your territory.   I don't begrudge this because I have also been a victim of it.  The overwhelming power and elctrical energy of thousands of humans uniting their wills to accomplish something is amazing...it raises the hair on the back on the neck.      
 Once you make it out of the programming schools we then have this marvelous brainwashing media that helps separate you into politcal classes and designates which network will be your information source.  The advertisers come along in between and help you to individualize yourself by buying products.  Americans believe they are different because they buy BMW vs Ford, Iphone vc HTC, blu ray vs HD, Mac vs Windows, Calvin Klien vs Versace, Jets vs Giants, Nike vs Reebox, Rush Limbaugh vs Air America.  The problem is these choices of indivduation are shallow and meaningless outside of the group pack that buys the similar product.  They are also choices that keep you trapped in the paradigm that the elites create to control you.

  To be born is to be brainwashed and that's an emotional fact of human existence.  The Buddha claimed that 90% of the people in the world had no spiritual inclination...sadly he may have been right.
 
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Parker on March 28, 2010, 09:55:27 PM
Thanks for the compliment.  

What really galls me are people who come out with 'strong' opinions that are almost word for word the propaganda put in their brains by the media.  It's like they believe that they are part of some special club that's getting the 'real' truth that everyone else is out to oppress.  The fact that they hear this 'real' truth in between ads for beer, viagra, football, stomach medicine, makeup and whatever else that medium is selling seem to be brushed away and rationalized.  And that comment goes for boths side of the debate.                  
  Domesticated primates have 'bred in' genetic fears and insecurities and those feelings are precisely what's played on by the elites.  DPs (domesticated primates) need to feel a part of a group.  There is no worse fear than being on the outside.  This fear comes from the very real threats posed in early human civilization.  Ostrization back then almost meant certain death...these days that instict is used to sell sports wear and political bumber stickers.  That fear if played correctly can be utilized for destruction and turned into hate.
  DP's are easily controlled if you place an enemy at their border.  In early human existence when an external threat appeared in the DP's territory it was essential to the survival of the pact that individualism be subjugated.  Everyone submitted to the Alpha DP's will until the threat was resolved.  These days that same instict is manipulated by the elites except the enemy is never destroyed, the threat never abated.  The american citizen is kept in a perpetual low level state of fear about their borders.  This was designed on purpose and became the defact controlling policy after WW2.  Americans have simply been submitting to the will of whatever threat the alpha DP says he (and it will always be a he) can protect them from.  Russians, Vietnamese, Sandanistas, west Germans, Cubans, Koreans, Iranians, Palestinians, Chinese, Terrorists...the list keeps growing and more 'rights' are always needed to be 'momentarilly' relinquished to propel these enemy at the gates.  These rights never return...never.  It's not that legitimate threats don't exist but if they didn't...they would be manufactured...think AlQueda.
  The conditioning starts early for humans.  You are separated into age groups, and then gender groups, and then groups based upon any skill you show.  You join the High School ralley to support the 'home coming' game.  Get it...home coming?  You sit in stands in matching uniforms and hoot and hollar like your ancestors in the trees hoping to frighten away the visiting tiger that's wandered into your territory.   I don't begrudge this because I have also been a victim of it.  The overwhelming power and elctrical energy of thousands of humans uniting their wills to accomplish something is amazing...it raises the hair on the back on the neck.      
 Once you make it out of the programming schools we then have this marvelous brainwashing media that helps separate you into politcal classes and designates which network will be your information source.  The advertisers come along in between and help you to individualize yourself by buying products.  Americans believe they are different because they buy BMW vs Ford, Iphone vc HTC, blu ray vs HD, Mac vs Windows, Calvin Klien vs Versace, Jets vs Giants, Nike vs Reebox, Rush Limbaugh vs Air America.  The problem is these choices of indivduation are shallow and meaningless outside of the group pack that buys the similar product.  They are also choices that keep you trapped in the paradigm that the elites create to control you.

  To be born is to be brainwashed and that's an emotional fact of human existence.  The Buddha claimed that 90% of the people in the world had no spiritual inclination...sadly he may have been right.
 
Truth in these words...
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Natural Man on March 28, 2010, 10:20:27 PM
   
Americans believe they are different because they buy BMW vs Ford, Iphone vc HTC, blu ray vs HD, Mac vs Windows, Calvin Klien vs Versace, Jets vs Giants, Nike vs Reebox, Rush Limbaugh vs Air America.  The problem is these choices of indivduation are shallow and meaningless outside of the group pack that buys the similar product.  They are also choices that keep you trapped in the paradigm that the elites create to control you.

  To be born is to be brainwashed and that's an emotional fact of human existence.  The Buddha claimed that 90% of the people in the world had no spiritual inclination...sadly he may have been right.
 

just fyi, it's the same shit going on everywhere on the planet...europe, russia, africa, australia...it's called capitalism, globalization, materialism and individualism.

Looks like someone is into anthropology  ;)

Fact is, europe north america and the commonwealth arent democracies... that voting is useless, and that "informations" are propaganda. You can live without believing into any of all these bullshits and it wouldnt change much about the course of the world at all. As you said it, it's all an illusion. People believe in democracy like believers believe in religions. TV is the new invisible Church. People dont even know they re believers of this Church. Religions or "democracies" , both are as crooked as each other. Both are full of lies hiding what truly underlines their respective functionning.People only think about what TV tells em to think about. Most people have their heads filled with ads, political slogans and movie's one liners.
They re getting stupider by the day. And it makes the elites richer than ever. People are educated to become dumber.
It's no wonder the best way to get from the bottom of the pyramid to the top is to lie and manipulate dumber, gullible people's opinions. Has always been that way.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Voice of Doom on March 29, 2010, 10:20:10 AM
I agree with you 100%.  It's the Malthusian philosophy come to fruition...and ,sadly, it appears to be the easiest to sell to both the elites and the slaves.  I’m not making a 'moral' judgment about the process except to say that it's extremely inefficient and (I think) a retardation of humanity's evolution.  I also believe that there are other forces at work in the world only because I sense a natural balance to all things.  I also don't think you can have a complete philosophical ideology without taking into account the damage quotient that seems inherent in the Domesticate Primate species.  The destructive nature that defines humanity must play a role in the larger purpose of life on this planet.  This is what I'm seeking to find and maybe that only as a comforting rationalization.   However, in light of the expansive atrocities committed in the 20th century I can't see how a conscious entity can't but help try to find a rationalized meaning for humanity anymore.  To simply accept its dark nature would be to condemn it as an evolutionary aberration and one that would, for the survival of the planet, need to be extinguished.
More questions than answers at this point BUT I've enjoyed this dialog.  Getbig never fails to impress me.  On a small tangent and in response to Ron's recent posting about how out of control Getbig has gotten I think he's wrong.   I think that Getbig has out grown his original concept but to try to rein it in is to kill a unique experiment.  After being here for a couple of years it's apparent to me that Getbig is simply asking the question, 'what does it mean to be a man?’  Like a great piece of art Getbig brings men from around the world who share an appreciation of male physical perfection.  This same question has been asked since antiquity and defined in art, war and science but in America,at this time where a feminized, product buying and service oriented culture dominate, the question gets ridiculed and moved out of sight.  What a tremendous disservice for a country whose history truly redefined the role of a free man in the world!
It is precisely because of the different styles of members and the freedom of expression that keeps Getbig on the razor’s edge of answering that question.  It’s no BS style of confrontation; its questioning of every concept shows a really anarchistic approach to a community.  Out of this a brotherhood, of some sorts, has arrived where color, race, age, class status, nationality, sexual orientation all become characteristics of the man NOT the man itself.  This is extremely important and different than the modern media/elites want.  They want you to identify yourself by the above qualities so you can be manipulated to buy and to hate others who are different.  At Getbig, your differences are magnified at the beginning, brought out into the light, discussed, condemned, laughed at, applauded and then made secondary to the point of view you and your experience bring to the larger question facing our species…’What does it mean to be a man?’
This is a tremendous thing.   ;D
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: jesusbod on March 29, 2010, 11:29:20 AM
So with the right wing losing their mind and talking about taking back their country is it time that the racist rednecks in the USA will start a war because they cannot handle having a black president who passed healthcare?

If so this will prove once and for what a bunch of hypocrites the republicans are

It's not a matter if the President is Black... It is a matter of him turning this country into a Nanny State... The only ones making this about race are the Liberal Progressive Hacks since they cannot compete with the substance of the issues.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Danny on March 29, 2010, 11:39:32 AM
It's not a matter if the President is Black... It is a matter of him turning this country into a Nanny State... The only ones making this about race are the Liberal Progressive Hacks since they cannot compete with the substance of the issues.

" This photo was taken in Feb ‘09 of tea party organizer Dale Robertson with a sign reading: “Congress = Slaveowner, Taxpayer = Niggar.”

what's your take on this one?

(http://selfdeprecate.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/teapartypic-200x300.jpg)
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: jesusbod on March 29, 2010, 11:42:54 AM
" This photo was taken in Feb ‘09 of tea party organizer Dale Robertson with a sign reading: “Congress = Slaveowner, Taxpayer = Niggar.”

what's your take on this one?

(http://selfdeprecate.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/teapartypic-200x300.jpg)

Piss poor Photo Shop job... Whoever did it, surely isn't a professional... Then again, I am not naive to think there are not racists out there that hate the President because of his skin. The majority are not like what you depict in your picture.
Title: Re: Is America heading for another civil war? Revolution?
Post by: Tapeworm on March 29, 2010, 05:48:16 PM
I agree with you 100%.  It's the Malthusian philosophy come to fruition...and ,sadly, it appears to be the easiest to sell to both the elites and the slaves.  I’m not making a 'moral' judgment about the process except to say that it's extremely inefficient and (I think) a retardation of humanity's evolution.  I also believe that there are other forces at work in the world only because I sense a natural balance to all things.  I also don't think you can have a complete philosophical ideology without taking into account the damage quotient that seems inherent in the Domesticate Primate species.  The destructive nature that defines humanity must play a role in the larger purpose of life on this planet.  This is what I'm seeking to find and maybe that only as a comforting rationalization.   However, in light of the expansive atrocities committed in the 20th century I can't see how a conscious entity can't but help try to find a rationalized meaning for humanity anymore.  To simply accept its dark nature would be to condemn it as an evolutionary aberration and one that would, for the survival of the planet, need to be extinguished.
More questions than answers at this point BUT I've enjoyed this dialog.  Getbig never fails to impress me.  On a small tangent and in response to Ron's recent posting about how out of control Getbig has gotten I think he's wrong.   I think that Getbig has out grown his original concept but to try to rein it in is to kill a unique experiment.  After being here for a couple of years it's apparent to me that Getbig is simply asking the question, 'what does it mean to be a man?’  Like a great piece of art Getbig brings men from around the world who share an appreciation of male physical perfection.  This same question has been asked since antiquity and defined in art, war and science but in America,at this time where a feminized, product buying and service oriented culture dominate, the question gets ridiculed and moved out of sight.  What a tremendous disservice for a country whose history truly redefined the role of a free man in the world!
It is precisely because of the different styles of members and the freedom of expression that keeps Getbig on the razor’s edge of answering that question.  It’s no BS style of confrontation; its questioning of every concept shows a really anarchistic approach to a community.  Out of this a brotherhood, of some sorts, has arrived where color, race, age, class status, nationality, sexual orientation all become characteristics of the man NOT the man itself.  This is extremely important and different than the modern media/elites want.  They want you to identify yourself by the above qualities so you can be manipulated to buy and to hate others who are different.  At Getbig, your differences are magnified at the beginning, brought out into the light, discussed, condemned, laughed at, applauded and then made secondary to the point of view you and your experience bring to the larger question facing our species…’What does it mean to be a man?’
This is a tremendous thing.   ;D


A valiant effort at ennobling the brain droppings of a throng of narcissistic figleafers!  :)