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Title: Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'
Post by: Eric15210 on April 05, 2010, 05:42:23 AM
CHARLOTTE - Even by President Obama's loquacious standards, an answer he gave here on health care Friday was a doozy.

Toward the end of a question-and-answer session with workers at an advanced battery technology manufacturer, a woman named Doris stood to ask the president whether it was a "wise decision to add more taxes to us with the health care" package.

"We are over-taxed as it is," Doris said bluntly.

Obama started out feisty. "Well, let's talk about that, because this is an area where there's been just a whole lot of misinformation, and I'm going to have to work hard over the next several months to clean up a lot of the misapprehensions that people have," the president said.

He then spent the next 17 minutes and 12 seconds lulling the crowd into a daze. His discursive answer - more than 2,500 words long -- wandered from topic to topic, including commentary on the deficit, pay-as-you-go rules passed by Congress, Congressional Budget Office reports on Medicare waste, COBRA coverage, the Recovery Act and Federal Medical Assistance Percentages (he referred to this last item by its inside-the-Beltway name, "F-Map"). He talked about the notion of eliminating foreign aid (not worth it, he said). He invoked Warren Buffett, earmarks and the payroll tax that funds Medicare (referring to it, in fluent Washington lingo, as "FICA").

Always fond of lists, Obama ticked off his approach to health care -- twice. "Number one is that we are the only -- we have been, up until last week, the only advanced country that allows 50 million of its citizens to not have any health insurance," he said.

A few minutes later he got to the next point, which seemed awfully similar to the first. "Number two, you don't know who might end up being in that situation," he said, then carried on explaining further still.

"Point number three is that the way insurance companies have been operating, even if you've got health insurance you don't always know what you got, because what has been increasingly the practice is that if you're not lucky enough to work for a big company that is a big pool, that essentially is almost a self-insurer, then what's happening is, is you're going out on the marketplace, you may be buying insurance, you think you're covered, but then when you get sick they decide to drop the insurance right when you need it," Obama continued, winding on with the answer.

Halfway through, an audience member on the riser yawned.

But Obama wasn't finished. He had a "final point," before starting again with another list -- of three points.

"What we said is, number one, we'll have the basic principle that everybody gets coverage," he said, before launching into the next two points, for a grand total of seven.

His wandering approach might not matter if Obama weren't being billed as the chief salesman of the health-care overhaul. Public opinion on the bill remains divided, and Democratic officials are planning to send Obama into the country to persuade wary citizens that it will work for them in the long run.

It was not evident that he changed any minds at Friday's event. The audience sat politely, but people in the back of the room began to wander off.

Even Obama seemed to recognize that he had gone on too long. He apologized -- in keeping with the spirit of the moment, not once, but twice. "Boy, that was a long answer. I'm sorry," he said, drawing nervous laughter that sounded somewhat like relief as he wrapped up.

But, he said: "I hope I answered your question."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/04/obamas-17-minute-2500-word-res.html
Title: Re: Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 05, 2010, 06:00:10 AM
What he meant to say:

"Yes, you are overtaxed, but I dont give a rats ass since i know far better than you what to do with your money." 

"You voted for me dumb ass, didnt you read the many posts of 333386 before the election on Getbig.com?  Well, you should have, since he knows far more than the idiots who believe a word I say." 
Title: Re: Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'
Post by: BM OUT on April 05, 2010, 06:15:30 AM
And the dunces on here and oin the lib media knocked Brett Baier for cutting Obama off.This is what he does.HE IS LIKE CASTRO.
Title: Re: Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'
Post by: MRDUMPLING on April 05, 2010, 06:32:29 AM
And the dunces on here and oin the lib media knocked Brett Baier for cutting Obama off.This is what he does.HE IS LIKE CASTRO.

QFT...just another rambling politician.  Obama is one of the worst that I have ever seen in that regard too.
Title: Re: Obama's 17-minute, 2,500-word response to woman's claim of being 'over-taxed'
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 05, 2010, 06:37:34 AM
QFT...just another rambling politician.  Obama is one of the worst that I have ever seen in that regard too.

And he does not say a damn thing!  Honestly, I just tune him out now other than the comedy skits he pulls sometimes.