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Title: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2010, 12:17:06 PM
I'm sure Obama disagrees.  

Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Sunday, 11 Apr 2010
    
When thinking about all the services provided by federal, state and local governments, 75 percent of voters nationwide say the average American should pay no more than 20 percent of their income in taxes. However, the latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that most voters (55 percent) believe the average American actually pays 30 percent or more of their income in taxes.

Sixty-six percent (66 percent) believe that America is overtaxed. Only 25 percent disagree.

Lower income voters are more likely than others to believe the nation is overtaxed.

Not surprisingly, the tax issue provokes a wide gap between the Political Class and Mainstream Americans. Eighty-one percent (81 percent) of Mainstream American voters believe the nation is overtaxed, while 74 percent of those in the Political Class disagree.
Eighty-one percent (81 percent) of Republicans believe the nation is overtaxed. So do 73 percent of voters not affiliated with either major party. Democrats are evenly divided on the question.

Among those who consider themselves part of the tea party movement, 96 percent believe the nation is overtaxed, and only one percent (1 percent) disagree.

These figures help explain why candidate Barack Obama promised to cut taxes for 95 percent of all Americans during Election 2008. Shortly after the election, Scott Rasmussen wrote a Wall Street Journal column noting how Obama won the White House by campaigning like Ronald Reagan. Currently, only eight percent (8 percent) believe their taxes will be cut during the Obama presidency, while 46 percent expect a tax hike.

According to Fiscal 2011 federal budget documents, taxes paid to federal, state and local governments totaled 25 percent of GDP in 2009. Total government spending totaled 36 percent of GDP.

Forty-three percent (43 percent) of voters believe that the average American should pay about 10 percent of their income in taxes in exchange for the services provided by the government.

In Fiscal Year 2009, 50 percent of all federal spending went to national defense, Social Security and Medicare. When the cost of veterans affairs are included, that number grows to 53 percent. Five percent (5 percent) paid interest on the federal debt, and 42 percent was used for everything else in the budget.

However, only 35 percent of voters believe that the majority of federal spending goes to just defense, Social Security and Medicare.

Forty-four percent (44 percent) say it’s not true, and 20 percent are not sure.

“These figures highlight a massive failure of leadership from both Republicans and Democrats among the nation’s political elite,” Rasmussen says. “Given the amount of political chatter about the budget in recent years, it is almost beyond comprehension that neither party has seen fit to highlight the basics, so that the American people can make reasoned choices on the fundamental issues before them.”

Fifty-two percent (52 percent) of voters trust Republicans more than Democrats on the issue of taxes. Thirty-four percent (34 percent) trust Democrats more on the issue. Republicans also are trusted more on health care and the economy.

Sixty-five percent (65 percent) believe that the middle class pays a larger share of their income in taxes than the wealthy. A national sales tax remains unpopular, and most oppose ‘sin taxes’ on junk food and soft drinks.

Just 23 percent of voters favor a more active government with more services and higher taxes.

http://newsmax.com/US/poll-taxes-raqsmussen-reports/2010/04/11/id/355377
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2010, 12:20:59 PM
Does that include the 47% who pay no federal income tax

Since corporations are also people I assumed they were included in the poll even though even more of them pay no federal income tax either

Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Tito24 on April 11, 2010, 03:50:12 PM
Does that include the 47% who pay no federal income tax

Since corporations are also people I assumed they were included in the poll even though even more of them pay no federal income tax either



Of course it does....
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2010, 04:16:22 PM
Everyone is grossly and massively over taxed. 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2010, 04:22:52 PM
Everyone is grossly and massively over taxed. 

even the 47% of Americans that pay no federal income tax?
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2010, 04:31:01 PM
Yes.  State taxes, real estate taxes, sales taxes, fica, energy taxes, fees, fines, etc are destroying middle and lower income people. 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2010, 04:58:33 PM
Yes.  State taxes, real estate taxes, sales taxes, fica, energy taxes, fees, fines, etc are destroying middle and lower income people. 

I thought you said Obama was the one destroying the country
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2010, 05:01:59 PM
Yes he is, as fast as he can. 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2010, 05:17:39 PM
Yes he is, as fast as he can. 

do you think Biden knows about this or does Obama keep him out of the loop

Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: MM2K on April 11, 2010, 10:00:31 PM
Yes.  State taxes, real estate taxes, sales taxes, fica, energy taxes, fees, fines, etc are destroying middle and lower income people. 

The real killer for low income people is the massive taxes on the people that provide them jobs.
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Straw Man on April 11, 2010, 10:06:19 PM
The real killer for low income people is the massive taxes on the people that provide them jobs.
how far above zero can it go before they start killing low income jobs?

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1249465620080812

Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Dos Equis on April 11, 2010, 10:09:16 PM
The real killer for low income people is the massive taxes on the people that provide them jobs.

Truth.  Consumers suffer when business is taxed. 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: MM2K on April 12, 2010, 07:56:14 AM
how far above zero can it go before they start killing low income jobs?

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN1249465620080812



I was refering more to the top tax rate for people making over $200000, but if you want to get rid of loopholes like that, then that is even more of an argument to just lower the corporate tax. If companies dont make a profit, then ofcourse they wont pay a corporate tax off of that. By the way, low income people do actually PAY the corporate tax in the form of higher prices of goods/ lower income/ less jobs.  So that affects them a lot too.
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 12, 2010, 07:57:34 AM
I was refering more to the top tax rate for people making over $200000, but if you want to get rid of loopholes like that, then that is even more of an argument to just lower the corporate tax. If companies dont make a profit, then ofcourse they wont pay a corporate tax off of that. By the way, low income people do actually PAY the corporate tax in the form of higher prices of goods/ lower income/ less jobs.  So that affects them a lot too.

Straw again shows his ignorance.  Its not only unemployment taxes, is UE taxes, disability, workers' comp, state taxes, property taxes, energy taxes, sales taxes, compliance costs, etc. 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Option D on April 12, 2010, 09:40:08 AM
OBAMA Invented the Income tax
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: kcballer on April 12, 2010, 09:42:50 AM
These polls are so stupid.  Of course everyone thinks they are overtaxed.  If you put out a poll and asked if you were overworked a majority would say yes, then if you asked if you were underpaid a majority would say yes. 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Dos Equis on April 12, 2010, 12:38:57 PM
Perhaps a majority of Americans believe they are overtaxed because it's true. 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: MRDUMPLING on April 13, 2010, 07:28:45 AM
Perhaps a majority of Americans believe they are overtaxed because it's true. 

QFT...it's not just about the income tax as Straw thinks.  Not to mention the people that voted in this poll are probably the ones paying for the other 47%.  Yep, let's keep blaming the rich. 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2010, 07:36:18 AM
QFT...it's not just about the income tax as Straw thinks.  Not to mention the people that voted in this poll are probably the ones paying for the other 47%.  Yep, let's keep blaming the rich. 

Its EVERYTHING!  Straw and KC believe that the govt should tax us at 100% and then dole us out what it wants to give us. 

Its energy taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, sin taxes, surcharges, fines, fees, increasing parking tickets, gasoline taxes, etc etc. 

 
Title: Re: Poll: 66 Percent Say America Is Overtaxed
Post by: shootfighter1 on April 13, 2010, 02:24:11 PM
Regardless if you blame Obama, liberals, progressives, big gov republicans it is true that more and more different taxes are being levied.  Look at all the tax increases that are coming for next year.  They are crucifying people that make $200K+.  Also, just as 33386 mentioned, various other taxes have and are continuing to go up, which affects far more people.  Not to mention other various excise taxes.  Now they are talking about a national sales tax.

We must stop the growth of government!