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Harry Reid Tells Crowd Dems Ready to Ram "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" Through "Soon" - Video
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | April 13, 2010 | Brian
Posted on Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:49:49 PM by Federalist Patriot
Here is a video report on Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is now saying "we're going to do Immigration Reform just like we did Health Care Reform."
Reid told a pro-Immigration Reform rally over the weekend (1:10 mark of the video):
"We're gonna come back, we're gonna do comprehensive immigration reform..I've got 59 Democratic Senators, all but 3 will support this...We're gonna do immigration reform just like we did health care reform -- Soon!"
If Reid and the Democrats move forward with this before the midterm elections, they are ensuring an enormous landslide for the GOP. As mad as Americans are right now over ObamaCare, if they ram this through in like fashion, it will be an avalanche at the polls in November.
(Excerpt) Read more at freedomslighthouse.com ...
http://www.freedomslighthouse.com/2010/04/harry-reid-tells-crowd-democrats-ready.html
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I really think the dems are trying to spark CW2.
Is is wrong to pray for physical harm to politicians?
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However,they are not PURPOSELY trying to wreck the country.
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Why not 333? You do realize we were all immigrants at some time to this country don't you? It's been shown economically what immigrants from Mexico bring to this country and it's far from a drain. This is why no one has done anything but talk about kicking them out. Republicans will talk tough to appease an uneasy and often racist set of voters. They still realize as surely as anyone who does the math or reads the facts that our country is better off with them in our workforce than without. If they were such a drain they would have been sent home long ago. Cold hard facts remain that they aren't a drain at all and that our economy needs them as much as we need their labor. It's win win unless you have something against hispanic people.
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Why not 333? You do realize we were all immigrants at some time to this country don't you? It's been shown economically what immigrants from Mexico bring to this country and it's far from a drain. This is why no one has done anything but talk about kicking them out. Republicans will talk tough to appease an uneasy and often racist set of voters. They still realize as surely as anyone who does the math or reads the facts that our country is better off with them in our workforce than without. If they were such a drain they would have been sent home long ago. Cold hard facts remain that they aren't a drain at all and that our economy needs them as much as we need their labor. It's win win unless you have something against hispanic people.
Speechless at your utter stupidty and ignorance.
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However,they are not PURPOSELY trying to wreck the country.
You sure about that?
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Speechless at your utter stupidty and ignorance.
In its landmark report published in 1997—arguably the most thorough national study to date of immigration's fiscal impacts—the National Research Council (NRC) of the National Academy of Sciences concluded that on average, immigrants generate public revenue that exceeds their public costs over time—approximately $80,000 more in taxes than they receive in state, federal and local benefits over their life times.1 This same conclusion was reached in 2007 by the Council of Economic Advisers in their report to the Executive Office of the President where they state that "the long-run impact of immigration on public budgets is likely to be positive," and agree with the NRC report's view that "only a forward-looking projection of taxes and government spending can offer an accurate picture of the long-run fiscal consequences of admitting new immigrants.
Sources - 1 National Research Council, The New Americans:Economic, Demographic, and Fiscal Effects of
Immigration, ed. James P. Smith and Barry Edmonston (Washington, D.C.:National Academy
Press, 1997).
2 Council of Economic Advisers, “Immigration’s Economic Impact,” Washington, D.C. June 20,
2007.
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They are trying as hard as they can to make this a third world nation.
We already legalize 1 million immigrants a year, more than any other nation on earth.
There is absolutely no justicification for importing cheap low-no skilled labor while we have 10% UE and millions on welfare that should be forced to take those jobs.
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In its landmark report published in 1997—arguably the most thorough national study to date of immigration's fiscal impacts—the National Research Council (NRC) of the National Academy of Sciences concluded that on average, immigrants generate public revenue that exceeds their public costs over time—approximately $80,000 more in taxes than they receive in state, federal and local benefits over their life times.1 This same conclusion was reached in 2007 by the Council of Economic Advisers in their report to the Executive Office of the President where they state that "the long-run impact of immigration on public budgets is likely to be positive," and agree with the NRC report's view that "only a forward-looking projection of taxes and government spending can offer an accurate picture of the long-run fiscal consequences of admitting new immigrants.
Sources - 1 National Research Council, The New Americans:Economic, Demographic, and Fiscal Effects of
Immigration, ed. James P. Smith and Barry Edmonston (Washington, D.C.:National Academy
Press, 1997).
2 Council of Economic Advisers, “Immigration’s Economic Impact,” Washington, D.C. June 20,
2007.
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somehow I dont think they were taking into account the people who illegally squat here, pop out 5 kids on the taxpayer dime, and then go on disaibility or workers' comp at 42 y/o.
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According to the 2005 Economic Report of the President, "more than half of all undocumented immigrants are believed to be working ‘on the books'…[and]… contribute to the tax rolls but are ineligible for almost all Federal public assistance programs and most major Federal-state programs." According to the report, undocumented immigrants also "contribute money to public coffers by paying sales and property taxes (the latter are implicit in apartment rentals)."
Source - Economic Report of the President. Council of Economic Advisers. Washington D.C. 2005
In June 2007, the President's Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) issued a report on "Immigration's Economic Impact." Based on a thorough review of the literature, the Council concluded that "immigrants not only help fuel the Nation's economic growth, but also have an overall positive effect on the American economy as a whole and on the income of native-born American workers."
Source -Council of Economic Advisers. Executive Office of the President. “Immigration’s Economic
Impact,” Washington, D.C. June 20, 2007. http://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/cea_immigration_
062007.html
With respect to wages, in a 1997 study, the National Research Council estimated the annual wage gain due to immigration for U.S. workers to be $10 billion each year in 2007 CEA estimated the gain at over $30 billion per year. The CEA acknowledges that an increase in immigrant workers is likely to have some negative impact on the wages of low-skilled native workers, but they found this impact to be relatively small and went on to conclude that reducing immigration "would be a poorly-targeted and inefficient way to assist low-wage Americans."
Sources - National Research Council, The New Americans:Economic, Demographic, and Fiscal Effects
of Immigration, ed. James P. Smith and Barry Edmonston (Washington, D.C.:National Academy
Press, 1997).
Council of Economic Advisers. Executive Office of the President. “Immigration’s Economic
Impact,” Washington, D.C. June 20, 2007. http://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/cea_immigration_
062007.html
Ibid Center for Research and Analysis of Migration (Department of Economics, University College London). “How Immigration Affects U.S. Cities,” David Card (UC Berkeley), June 2007.
Care to refute anything with real evidence 333? Or just made up fox news talking points and racist rhetoric.
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In its landmark report published in 1997—arguably the most thorough national study to date of immigration's fiscal impacts—the National Research Council (NRC) of the National Academy of Sciences concluded that on average, immigrants generate public revenue that exceeds their public costs over time—approximately $80,000 more in taxes than they receive in state, federal and local benefits over their life times.1 This same conclusion was reached in 2007 by the Council of Economic Advisers in their report to the Executive Office of the President where they state that "the long-run impact of immigration on public budgets is likely to be positive," and agree with the NRC report's view that "only a forward-looking projection of taxes and government spending can offer an accurate picture of the long-run fiscal consequences of admitting new immigrants.
Sources - 1 National Research Council, The New Americans:Economic, Demographic, and Fiscal Effects of
Immigration, ed. James P. Smith and Barry Edmonston (Washington, D.C.:National Academy
Press, 1997).
2 Council of Economic Advisers, “Immigration’s Economic Impact,” Washington, D.C. June 20,
2007.
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$10.5 BILLION to CA alone.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
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somehow I dont think they were taking into account the people who illegally squat here, pop out 5 kids on the taxpayer dime, and then go on disaibility or workers' comp at 42 y/o.
Your evidence is where 333? Oh you don't have it? Oh you're relying on stereotypes and racist rhetoric of the KKK? Oh i see.
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$10.5 BILLION to CA alone.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
Uh doofus this is a group who want immigration stopped they have a vested interest in skewing numbers and misreporting. The reports i've cited are done by academics. Nice attempt though :-*
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Your evidence is where 333? Oh you don't have it? Oh you're relying on stereotypes and racist rhetoric of the KKK? Oh i see.
And guess what happens when all these people become "legal"?
They will all sign up for welfare, Section 8, Wic, ObamaCare, etc.
I really wish we would just split the nation in 2 halfs at this point. You straw, lurker, mal, benny, and the rest of you clowns live on one side in your socialist utopia with all the drug addicts, dead beats, illegals etc, and the rest of us on the other side.
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Uh doofus this is a group who want immigration stopped they have a vested interest in skewing numbers and misreporting. The reports i've cited are done by academics. Nice attempt though :-*
We LEGALLY naturalize a million people a year as it is.
I guess 10% UE is not high enough for you to understand how foolish this is.
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$10.5 BILLION to CA alone.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
BTW you realize the group was given millions by the pioneer fund who support selective breeding. Racism much?
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And guess what happens when all these people become "legal"?
They will all sign up for welfare, Section 8, Wic, ObamaCare, etc.
I really wish we would just split the nation in 2 halfs at this point. You straw, lurker, mal, benny, and the rest of you clowns live on one side in your socialist utopia with all the drug addicts, dead beats, illegals etc, and the rest of us on the other side.
hahaha your facts on this are where exactly? In your head? Thought so. ::)
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hahaha your facts on this are where exactly? In your head? Thought so. ::)
I live in NYC bro. I know more about this than most people on this board and see the negative impact of importing poor third people with no skills into society.
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Reid wants amnesty so immigrants can vote for liberals
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There is absolutely no justification for this insanity.
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I live in NYC bro. I know more about this than most people on this board and see the negative impact of importing poor third people with no skills into society.
Please show us the facts behind your statements. Don't just make sh*t up because you saw or heard about one family doing such a thing. That's like assuming all Italians are guidos.
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Yes,all of us opposed to amnesty are raving racists.Let me ask you this.Why not reward bank robbers and rapists,I mean who cares if they broke the law,gosh darn it they are here and should be rewarded for their crimes.Why have any laws at all?Hey,here is what you should try to do,try to cross the border into Mexico and live there and see how they treat you.Of course,your a bleeding heart lib and you think Mexico should be able to protect their borders,just not the US.
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Please show us the facts behind your statements. Don't just make sh*t up because you saw or heard about one family doing such a thing. That's like assuming all Italians are guidos.
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Serious, wake the hell up bro.
anywhere you have a large amount of illegals you habe blight, poverty, disease, and bankruptcy.
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Its always amusing when libs play the racist card.If your against amnesty they cry "racist" ,dont like Obama "racist" support the tea party movement ,"racist".However,Obama sitting in Rev. Wrights church for twenty years,no problem.Obama siding with the racist professor over the white cop,no problem.Obama saying "the white mans greed runs a world in need,great.
ITS NOT WORKING!!!Obamas approval continues to drop despite your hysterical rants of "racism".Your not scaring us anymore with it.You have beaten the word to death,it holds no meaning anymore.
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Yes,all of us opposed to amnesty are raving racists.Let me ask you this.Why not reward bank robbers and rapists,I mean who cares if they broke the law,gosh darn it they are here and should be rewarded for their crimes.Why have any laws at all?Hey,here is what you should try to do,try to cross the border into Mexico and live there and see how they treat you.Of course,your a bleeding heart lib and you think Mexico should be able to protect their borders,just not the US.
I have never said we shouldn't enforce out border policies Billy. I think we should. However the issue at hand is more complex than simply deporting the current illegal and undocumented workers. Fact is right now we are not in a strong enough economic position to a) afford the decrease in revenue from the 50% who pay taxes, b) afford to detain and deport illegals, c) enforce our border to the utmost, d) people aren't earning enough to afford the cost of living increase on the goods and services provided cheaply by these workers. Those are the cold hard facts Billy. It does not make sense from a economic perspective and i don't believe it makes sense from a humanitarian perspective.
Here is what i think should happen. Amnesty for all those n the US without felony convictions, use the money from the extra tax income generated to help stop them from coming over. Stricter enforcement on workplaces who hire illegals and a 3 year freeze on social services for newly minted illegals to citizens.
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Its always amusing when libs play the racist card.If your against amnesty they cry "racist" ,dont like Obama "racist" support the tea party movement ,"racist".However,Obama sitting in Rev. Wrights church for twenty years,no problem.Obama siding with the racist professor over the white cop,no problem.Obama saying "the white mans greed runs a world in need,great.
ITS NOT WORKING!!!Obamas approval continues to drop despite your hysterical rants of "racism".Your not scaring us anymore with it.You have beaten the word to death,it holds no meaning anymore.
I really hope these communists and TRAITORS try this. When there is an insurrection on their hands by MILLIONS of fed up taxpayers, I truly will sit back smiling as these disgusting vermin like reid, pelosi, obama, bush, mccain, graham, and all the other TREASONOUS liberal scumbags lose everything.
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I have never said we shouldn't enforce out border policies Billy. I think we should. However the issue at hand is more complex than simply deporting the current illegal and undocumented workers. Fact is right now we are not in a strong enough economic position to a) afford the decrease in revenue from the 50% who pay taxes, b) afford to detain and deport illegals, c) enforce our border to the utmost, d) people aren't earning enough to afford the cost of living increase on the goods and services provided cheaply by these workers. Those are the cold hard facts Billy. It does not make sense from a economic perspective and i don't believe it makes sense from a humanitarian perspective.
Here is what i think should happen. Amnesty for all those n the US without felony convictions, use the money from the extra tax income generated to help stop them from coming over. Stricter enforcement on workplaces who hire illegals and a 3 year freeze on social services for newly minted illegals to citizens.
Oh yeah, because those bogus promises worked so well that last three times we tried it. ::) ::)
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Its always amusing when libs play the racist card.If your against amnesty they cry "racist" ,dont like Obama "racist" support the tea party movement ,"racist".However,Obama sitting in Rev. Wrights church for twenty years,no problem.Obama siding with the racist professor over the white cop,no problem.Obama saying "the white mans greed runs a world in need,great.
ITS NOT WORKING!!!Obamas approval continues to drop despite your hysterical rants of "racism".Your not scaring us anymore with it.You have beaten the word to death,it holds no meaning anymore.
I'm not trying to scare anyone Billy. I'm trying to NOT scare people so they can see the facts. 333 would have you believe the whole world is going to end and illegals all want to fu*k him over. The facts don't support that stance but emotionally he can't comprehend it and neither can a lot of people. So they fall back on racist stereotypes whether they are truly racist only they know, but that doesn't stop them from spouting generalizations like 'once they get amnesty they'll all take up welfare' etc.
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I'm not trying to scare anyone Billy. I'm trying to NOT scare people so they can see the facts. 333 would have you believe the whole world is going to end and illegals all want to fu*k him over. The facts don't support that stance but emotionally he can't comprehend it and neither can a lot of people. So they fall back on racist stereotypes whether they are truly racist only they know, but that doesn't stop them from spouting generalizations like 'once they get amnesty they'll all take up welfare' etc.
Illegals and immigrants are on welfare more than native born KC.
Also, living in NYC, I see the effects of this garbage far more than most.
I would gladly get rid of every illegal alien if the cost was a few more dollars here and there for items.
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Oh yeah, because those bogus promises worked so well that last three times we tried it. ::) ::)
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Hey go right ahead 333 you think the government spending was bad prior to that, wait until you see the trillions it'll cost to enforce and do what you want. Talk about civilian armies, Obama would have a huge job increase with all the new ICE recruits needed. I thought you wanted smaller government?
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I have never said we shouldn't enforce out border policies Billy. I think we should. However the issue at hand is more complex than simply deporting the current illegal and undocumented workers. Fact is right now we are not in a strong enough economic position to a) afford the decrease in revenue from the 50% who pay taxes, b) afford to detain and deport illegals, c) enforce our border to the utmost, d) people aren't earning enough to afford the cost of living increase on the goods and services provided cheaply by these workers. Those are the cold hard facts Billy. It does not make sense from a economic perspective and i don't believe it makes sense from a humanitarian perspective.
Here is what i think should happen. Amnesty for all those n the US without felony convictions, use the money from the extra tax income generated to help stop them from coming over. Stricter enforcement on workplaces who hire illegals and a 3 year freeze on social services for newly minted illegals to citizens.
IF they did that I wouldnt be against it.However,what would happen is this.We give the cticzenship and the libs DONT defend the borders and in ten years we have another twelve million in here and have to do it again.Libs wont defend the border and conservatives are BARELY better at it.Thats the problem.
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Illegals and immigrants are on welfare more than native born KC.
Also, living in NYC, I see the effects of this garbage far more than most.
I would gladly get rid of every illegal alien if the cost was a few more dollars here and there for items.
Please show me a proper study done by a neutral third party to support such a statement.
NYC was built by immigrants who didn't speak the language, worked piss poor jobs and lived in ghettos moron you sound like a white shoes club lawyer with such bullsh*t.
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Hey go right ahead 333 you think the government spending was bad prior to that, wait until you see the trillions it'll cost to enforce and do what you want. Talk about civilian armies, Obama would have a huge job increase with all the new ICE recruits needed. I thought you wanted smaller government?
Its not hard and can be done within a few years.
1. Being homew many of the troops and train them for immigration enforcement.
2. ICE at the jails.
3. ICE at the ER
4. ICE in the school districts.
5. ICE in the traffic court.
you could have this problem solved withn 5 years or less.
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IF they did that I wouldnt be against it.However,what would happen is this.We give the cticzenship and the libs DONT defend the borders and in ten years we have another twelve million in here and have to do it again.Libs wont defend the border and conservatives are BARELY better at it.Thats the problem.
Unfortunately neither party has moved on it because economically is doesn't make sense for them. The big businesses that support them are reliant on the labor and the tax revenue is gravy on top for them. However i do agree this needs to be a one time thing. I think it would be great to have amnesty passed, a conservative get into power and then enforce the border against new illegal immigrants.
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Please show me a proper study done by a neutral third party to support such a statement.
NYC was built by immigrants who didn't speak the language, worked piss poor jobs and lived in ghettos moron you sound like a white shoes club lawyer with such bullsh*t.
They were and came here LEGALLY and left their countries to become AMERICANS.
They did not come here to rape the system and send cash home to build homes in other countries while living in flophouses and like nomads like the current mess we have.
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Unfortunately neither party has moved on it because economically is doesn't make sense for them. The big businesses that support them are reliant on the labor and the tax revenue is gravy on top for them. However i do agree this needs to be a one time thing. I think it would be great to have amnesty passed, a conservative get into power and then enforce the border against new illegal immigrants.
How about we enforce the border and start tossing people out regardless?
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Its not hard and can be done within a few years.
1. Being homew many of the troops and train them for immigration enforcement.
2. ICE at the jails.
3. ICE at the ER
4. ICE in the school districts.
5. ICE in the traffic court.
you could have this problem solved withn 5 years or less.
So you what did the numbers in your head on this one? hahaha give me a break. You're looking at trillions of dollars spent on this not to mention the court challenges and refugee claims that will increase the workload exponentially.
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So you what did the numbers in your head on this one? hahaha give me a break. You're looking at trillions of dollars spent on this not to mention the court challenges and refugee claims that will increase the workload exponentially.
The deterent effect alone will send a ton of these people packing.
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Why not 333? You do realize we were all immigrants at some time to this country don't you? It's been shown economically what immigrants from Mexico bring to this country and it's far from a drain. This is why no one has done anything but talk about kicking them out. Republicans will talk tough to appease an uneasy and often racist set of voters. They still realize as surely as anyone who does the math or reads the facts that our country is better off with them in our workforce than without. If they were such a drain they would have been sent home long ago. Cold hard facts remain that they aren't a drain at all and that our economy needs them as much as we need their labor. It's win win unless you have something against hispanic people.
I don't think people have problems with legal immigrants. I certainly don't. My parents are/were immigrants. But my family did it the right way.
The problem is with illegal immigration. Wanting our country to enforce immigration laws has nothing to do with racism.
Amnesty is a terrible idea IMO. We would be rewarding people for breaking the law. It would be grossly unfair to all of the people who have been waiting in line to do it legally.
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The country that cant defend its borders is not a country anymore.When Mexico has stricter illegal immigration laws then we do there is a HUGE problem.
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Why are catering to squatters?