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For those of you who believe in science
Fears grow as study shows genetically modified crops 'can cause liver and kidney damage'
By David Derbyshire
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An environmental campaigner protesting against GM crops. A study said it can cause organ damage.
Fresh fears were raised over GM crops yesterday after a study showed they can cause liver and kidney damage.
According to the research, animals fed on three strains of genetically modified maize created by the U.S. biotech firm Monsanto suffered signs of organ damage after just three months.
The findings only came to light after Monsanto was forced to publish its raw data on safety tests by anti-GM campaigners.
They add to the evidence that GM crops may damage health as well as be harmful to the environment.
The figures released by Monsanto were examined by French researcher Dr Gilles-Eric Seralini, from the University of Caen.
Yesterday he called for more studies to check for long-term organ damage.
'What we've shown is clearly not proof of toxicity, but signs of toxicity,' he told New Scientist magazine. 'I'm sure there's no acute toxicity but who's to say there are no chronic effects?'
The experiments were carried out by Monsanto researchers on three strains of GM maize. Two of the varieties contained genes for the Bt protein which protects the plant against the corn borer pest, while a third was genetically modified to be resistant to the weedkiller glyphosate. All three strains are widely grown in America, while one is the only GM crop grown in Europe, mostly in Spain.
Monsanto only released the raw data after a legal challenge from Greenpeace, the Swedish Board of Agriculture and French anti- GM campaigners.
Dr Seralini concluded that rats which ate the GM maize had ' statistically significant' signs of liver and kidney damage. Each strain was linked to unusual concentrations of hormones in the blood and urine of rats fed the maize for three months, compared to rats given a non-GM diet.
The higher hormone levels suggest that animals' livers and kidneys are not working properly.
Female rats fed one of the strains also had higher blood sugar levels and raised levels of fatty substances caused triglycerides, Dr Seralini reported in the International Journal of Microbiology.
The analysis concluded: 'These substances have never before been an integral part of the human or animal diet and therefore their health consequences for those who consume them, especially over long time periods are currently unknown.'
Monsanto claimed the analysis of its data was 'based on faulty analytical methods and reasoning, and does not call into question the safety findings for these products'.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1244824/Fears-grow-study-shows-genetically-modified-crops-cause-liver-kidney-damage.html#ixzz0lDxe4LjS
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Cue TA to say they are perfectly safe.
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Hope this helps.
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Read the article...this isn't the first study linking GMOs with organ damage.
You're the one in denial.
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This is a very vague article. I would like to know whether it is perhaps the GM food itself or if in fact it's the sprays, pesticides etc being used on the crops that interact with the way the GM food is.
But lets be real here for a minute, there is absolutely no way this world would be able to sustain itself without genetically modified and/or pesticide sprayed crops.
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Come on,this is a weight training site.People here use steroids,anti-inflamatories,vikes,amphetamines,valiums,pain killers,synthol etc etc and we are worried about GM foods?Ha,ha,not me.The more crap in the food the better.People have never been bigger and stronger.Girls get boobs in 5th grade and boys are shaving in 6th grade.Genetic mutation is a great thing for humanity,check out life spans now compared to 40 years ago.Long live GM ffods and hormone filled foods.
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True...but people should have a choice of what they put in their bodies, your comparison doesn't hold water as steroids as you know don't cause organ failure. You should also know that you get big by copious amounts of food, not just steroids so you should take into consideration that you might be feeding yourself crap that will cause your organs to shut down.
I guess Hugo was right in that people would never get the threat that GMOs and the companies that produce them are.
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True...but people should have a choice of what they put in their bodies, your comparison doesn't hold water as steroids as you know don't cause organ failure. You should also know that you get big by copious amounts of food, not just steroids so you should take into consideration that you might be feeding yourself crap that will cause your organs to shut down.
I guess Hugo was right in that people would never get the threat that GMOs and the companies that produce them are.
I take 5-15 advils a day and about 7 vikes a day plus consume 800grams of protein a day.Sorry,the little Genetic food I take in is nothing.I also havent eaten a vegetable or fruit in 20 years.So the stuff in food holds me together.
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I take 5-15 advils a day and about 7 vikes a day plus consume 800grams of protein a day.Sorry,the little Genetic food I take in is nothing.I also havent eaten a vegetable or fruit in 20 years.So the stuff in food holds me together.
Yeah...again that's you! Not somebody else which may not be able to handle is as you do. Again, that is your choice to do that to your body, I don't judge you for it, but other people may not have that choice or even know what is going into our food products.
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I take 5-15 advils a day and about 7 vikes a day plus consume 800grams of protein a day.Sorry,the little Genetic food I take in is nothing.I also havent eaten a vegetable or fruit in 20 years.So the stuff in food holds me together.
It's more than you think and in this next 10 years, it'll be even more. And it's not just veggies. But even so, why comment on what you perceive to only effect you? Why not address issues you feel are in the best interest of Americans as a whole. That is the very nature of being a patriot.
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I take 5-15 advils a day and about 7 vikes a day plus consume 800grams of protein a day.Sorry,the little Genetic food I take in is nothing.I also havent eaten a vegetable or fruit in 20 years.So the stuff in food holds me together.
With all of this crap entering into your system no wonder you don't care about some GMO being added on top of this. You have a greater threat of death from liver failure and kidney failure from all those pain killers and protein than pesticides, herbicides and glow in the dark vegetables put together.
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people r still on average living longer than 50 yrs ago
...thread over...
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people r still on average living longer than 50 yrs ago
...thread over...
And developing diseases at younger years that were once associated with the elderly. Cancers, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Osteoporosis, organ failure, strokes, heart attacks etc etc are striking down and killing people at far younger ages that before (teens, twenties and early thirties). In cases where people are living into their fifties and sixties they are already stricken with serious illnesses that make living longer a HELL unto itself. What good is a longer life if you are hooked up to machines to live, require constant medications or have so many medical issues you can not enjoy any aspect of your life....?
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Hope this helps.
Good post TA, interesting stuff.
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I take 5-15 advils a day and about 7 vikes a day plus consume 800grams of protein a day.Sorry,the little Genetic food I take in is nothing.I also havent eaten a vegetable or fruit in 20 years.So the stuff in food holds me together.
Billy - are you joking?
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I take 5-15 advils a day and about 7 vikes a day plus consume 800grams of protein a day.Sorry,the little Genetic food I take in is nothing.I also havent eaten a vegetable or fruit in 20 years.So the stuff in food holds me together.
Holy Cow! Somebody should make a note that when you die, your remains should be encased in cement and shot out into space rather than be buried. Burying your remains would create a bio-hazardous toxic waste site that would be deemed uninhabitable for human life. :D
No fruits or vegetables? at all? Do you ever get any fibre in that diet of yours?
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Holy Cow! Somebody should make a note that when you die, your remains should be encased in cement and shot out into space rather than be buried. Burying your remains would create a bio-hazardous toxic waste site that would be deemed uninhabitable for human life. :D
No fruits or vegetables? at all? Do you ever get any fibre in that diet of yours?
Maybe he eats the cardboard packaging the protein powder comes in
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people r still on average living longer than 50 yrs ago
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That's a function of medicine and vastly improved sanitation.
We've known about the dangers of genetically modified food (especially soy) for a long while but no one cares.
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Maybe he eats the cardboard packaging the protein powder comes in
It would certainly be more nutritious than what he's eating now. :-\
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That's a function of medicine and vastly improved sanitation.
We've known about the dangers of genetically modified food (especially soy) for a long while but no one cares.
lets say ya care doc...not much you can do...so consider the advances in medicine cancelling out the dangers of engineered food...
on the whole..ya live about the same...
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Science and Evidence IS not in the Conspiracy Theorists favor.
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Come on,this is a weight training site.People here use steroids,anti-inflamatories,vikes,amphetamines,valiums,pain killers,synthol etc etc and we are worried about GM foods?Ha,ha,not me.The more crap in the food the better.People have never been bigger and stronger.Girls get boobs in 5th grade and boys are shaving in 6th grade.Genetic mutation is a great thing for humanity,check out life spans now compared to 40 years ago.Long live GM ffods and hormone filled foods.
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people r still on average living longer than 50 yrs ago
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who gives a fucking shit Toxic. If you think that's the only issue around the subject then you're way dumber than I imagined.
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no one cares.
Bingo.
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lets say ya care doc...not much you can do...so consider the advances in medicine cancelling out the dangers of engineered food...
on the whole..ya live about the same...
Medicine makes it worse. Saw a show recently, "Bi-polar and pregnant", she was on the third kid, FFS! With no lithium maybe someone would have institutionalized her or said "You're gonna have batshit crazy kids", nut no.... three kids are gonna be dealing with a mental mother and wondering how long until they get crazy or have crazy offspring.
Same with obesity and other things.
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who gives a fucking shit Toxic. If you think that's the only issue around the subject then you're way dumber than I imagined.
i ws in a posting just to post sorta mood :-\
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Medicine makes it worse. Saw a show recently, "Bi-polar and pregnant", she was on the third kid, FFS! With no lithium maybe someone would have institutionalized her or said "You're gonna have batshit crazy kids", nut no.... three kids are gonna be dealing with a mental mother and wondering how long until they get crazy or have crazy offspring.
Same with obesity and other things.
yeah but whats next..if u stop said lithium mom from having kiddies?....IQ tests....although...i'm all for them...
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i ws in a posting just to post sorta mood :-\
ok, sorry, I was over the line. Just want to point out that the issue is larger than life span.
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ok, sorry, I was over the line. Just want to point out that the issue is larger than life span.
meh...no need to apologize....i usually make it a point to be over the line...but just tired and not really feeling it today....besides it like 50 degrees out today.....and windy...shit weather
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Who cares about GMO when we have something more interesting to discuss, namely the list of stuff hat Billy shoves down his pie hole everyday (and this doesn't even count the other "supplemets that I assume he also takes).
Billy - are you joking about this?
I take 5-15 advils a day and about 7 vikes a day plus consume 800grams of protein a day.Sorry,the little Genetic food I take in is nothing.I also havent eaten a vegetable or fruit in 20 years.So the stuff in food holds me together.
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bump for Billy
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Who cares about GMO when we have something more interesting to discuss, namely the list of stuff hat Billy shoves down his pie hole everyday (and this doesn't even count the other "supplemets that I assume he also takes).
Billy - are you joking about this?
No,thats all true.By the way Im 46 and every blood test Ive ever had came out normal except my test levels are [at least last time]1100.
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No,thats all true.By the way Im 46 and every blood test Ive ever had came out normal except my test levels are [at least last time]1100.
just curious - do you drink at all
also, with all that protein and no veggies aren't you concerned about colon cancer or something?