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Title: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 23, 2010, 07:28:34 PM
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Post by: webcake on April 23, 2010, 07:29:15 PM
epic trying to look smart
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Post by: disturbia on April 23, 2010, 07:30:58 PM
epic trying to look smart

lol funny cause its so true
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Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 23, 2010, 07:31:51 PM
lol funny cause its so true

lol funny cause its so true
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 23, 2010, 07:35:40 PM
epic trying to look smart

watch the damn video.....its actually pretty cool....

and if i wanted to look smart i woulda posted about something i know a lot more about
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Post by: disturbia on April 23, 2010, 07:37:21 PM
watch the damn video.....its actually pretty cool....

and if i wanted to look smart i woulda posted about something i know a lot more about

like cock in your mouth?

just kidding ur smarter than I
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 23, 2010, 07:38:32 PM
like cock in your mouth?

just kidding ur smarter than I

didcha watch the damn video?  >:(


its only 5 mins mang...and its REALLY cool!
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: YngiweRhoads on April 23, 2010, 08:03:59 PM
didcha watch the damn video?  >:(


its only 5 mins mang...and its REALLY cool!

It's GetBig man, you know what to expect. haha

I'll check it out but I think I've seen it or something similar. It's where a single particle is in two places at the same time. I'm sick and can't think worth shit right now.
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 23, 2010, 08:10:37 PM
It's GetBig man, you know what to expect. haha

I'll check it out but I think I've seen it or something similar. It's where a single particle is in two places at the same time. I'm sick and can't think worth shit right now.

yeah...a single electron passes thru both slits at the same time until observed...then it picks one or the other

here is the infamous schrodingers cat

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Post by: YngiweRhoads on April 23, 2010, 08:21:28 PM
yeah...a single electron passes thru both slits at the same time until observed...then it picks one or the other

here is the infamous schrodingers cat



Very cool man.
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 23, 2010, 08:48:22 PM
Very cool man.

once upon a time i wanted to be a physics major.....i took a buncha classes as electives but my parents forced me into biology  >:(
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: webcake on April 23, 2010, 08:54:28 PM
if this isn't about muscle men in thongs, then i don't know shit....
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Post by: Hulkster on April 23, 2010, 08:58:07 PM
thats one of those weird things.

light behaves as both a wave and packets of energy (photons) at the same time.

hence the results of the famous double slit experiment.

I majored in biology also, but had to take a year of calculus based physics.

I still have nightmares about the final exam 8)
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Post by: Aaron Singerman on April 23, 2010, 09:02:19 PM
Cool video... thanks.
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Post by: Tapeworm on April 23, 2010, 09:11:13 PM
Some kraut demonstrated the particle-wave duality of matter as well with a massive 64 carbon molecule.  Maybe they said that,  didn't watch, sorry Young.
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Post by: hazbin on April 23, 2010, 09:41:22 PM
i watched that before. but i was expecting to see some mutated chick with a siamese pussy.  so disappointed  i had to go over to tube8
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 23, 2010, 11:04:02 PM
thats one of those weird things.

light behaves as both a wave and packets of energy (photons) at the same time.

hence the results of the famous double slit experiment.

I majored in biology also, but had to take a year of calculus based physics.

I still have nightmares about the final exam 8)

o i took calc 1 ...2 and differential equations as electives :-\  calc 2 ws the toughest.....i hated all my bio classes (except for the anatomy 1 n 2...those i enjoyed)...all that memorization....i still shudder at the thought of memorizing the krebs cycle all those years back....math ws easy....u understand a concept and ya run with it....and ya dont get marked down for bad spelling
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Post by: #1 Klaus fan on April 24, 2010, 01:00:28 AM
yeah...a single electron passes thru both slits at the same time until observed...then it picks one or the other

God wanted it that way.
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Post by: Azn Muscle on April 24, 2010, 01:25:59 AM
I saw "double slit" and thought this thread was about lesbians.

You can imagine my disappointment. 
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: Matt C on April 24, 2010, 01:55:04 AM
I saw "double slit" and thought this thread was about lesbians.

You can imagine my disappointment. 

LOL!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 24, 2010, 08:13:12 AM
I saw "double slit" and thought this thread was about lesbians.

You can imagine my disappointment. 

i ws kinda waiting for this particular reply! ;D
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: dawakaman on April 24, 2010, 10:33:17 AM
Thanks for the link Toxi, i learned something interesting today!

Peace
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 24, 2010, 10:40:59 AM
Thanks for the link Toxi, i learned something interesting today!

Peace

you are very welcome!  now what that video makes me think is....this experiment and the wave particle duality of matter is old news in physics.....how exactly have we applied this science to technology today....technology we dont know exists....
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: wavelength on April 24, 2010, 10:43:15 AM
It's very relevant to technology and has been for a long time
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Post by: Parker on April 24, 2010, 11:01:13 AM

That was some good shit...those damn smart electrons knew that they were being watched,lol.
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 24, 2010, 11:17:37 AM
It's very relevant to technology and has been for a long time

i ws thinking more along these lines
the wunderwaffe <sp?>
While the purpose of The Bell is unknown, there is a wide range of speculation from anti-gravity to time travel.[9]
Jan Van Helsing claims in his book Secret Societies that, in a meeting that was attended by the members of various secret orders (Vril Gesellschaft, Thule Society, SS elite of Black Sun) and two mediums, technical data for the construction of a flying machine was gathered along with the messages that were said to have come from the solar system Aldebaran[10]
One of Cook's scientist contacts in The Hunt for Zero Point, was a "Dr. Dan Marckus". (Cook states in his book that he has "blurred" Marckus' name[11] and that he is "an eminent scientist attached to the physics department of one of Britain's best-known universities".[12]) Dr. Marckus claimed that The Bell was a torsion field generator and that the SS scientists were attempting to build some sort of time machine with it.[



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Glocke
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: stuntmovie on April 24, 2010, 11:26:24 AM
Toxic and Wavelength Thanks for posting and discussing this QM subject matter. Haven't even read it all yet but I gotta say the following and then jump into it.

I am not even close to being "brilliant" but many years ago a lady I knew was reading "Dancing Wu Li Masters" and she told me that it was a very interesting book on the basics of Quantum Mechanics.

I knew she had an extremely high IQ and asked her if a dummy such as myself would be able to read it and understand it. She merely laughed and said, "You'd master it in no time at all!"

SO I got a copy and read it from cover to cover and for the first time in my life I realized how 'stupit' I really was. But the little that I sort of understood while reading it that first time was so damn interesting that I decided to read it again..... and over the years I read it at least seven times - but I'm still pretty damn 'stupid' when it comes to QM.

Then about a year ago I attended a family function and met a young 'physicist' (may be the wrong name) and I had the opportunity to ask some questions from someone who worked in the field of QM on a daily basis and for a living.

I then discovered that I was able to discuss various parts of QM intelligently and was informed that I understood QM pretty well even though it was still a big mystery in my own mind.

He then informed me that QM is still a very big mystery even within the minds of QM experts and will probably remain to be a major mystery for many years to come.

I've always been interested (since I was a kid) to learn if you could see a light particle (wave or otherwise) if you traveled along side of it at the same speed as that light particle.

By traveling along side of it - it would not strike your 'eyeball', so it should be invisible. SO, is it actually there or not!?

Does it only become "there" when your 'eyeball' sees it? Or otherwise - does it only become 'reality' when it meets it's full potential? And is that 'reality' real outside of one's own experience.

That 'thought' resulted in a pretty interesting discussion.

I've been away from the QM 'thinking process' for a good while  now  but the most recent  QM subject I can recall reading about was its relation to computer technology. Have you heard anything about that recently?

I never could understand Schrodinger's cat though. I kind of recall that ... "It's not there until we see it there." And I sort of recall something similar to it in long ago philosophy class.

Thanks for posting this. Encourages me to expand my mind once again, but thinking deeply for too long a time period was never really my expertise.

Read "Dancing Wu Li Masters' if you are interested in basic QM.





Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 24, 2010, 11:35:52 AM
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I've always been interested to learn if you could see a light particle (wave or otherwise) if you traveled along side of it at the same speed as that light particle. By traveling along side of it - it would not strike your 'eyeball', so it should be invisible. SO, is it actually there or not!?
i could be wrong....but i thin k the whole point of relativity is that no matter that position of the observer...you would ALWAYS see a light particle travelling at the speed of light....the light will either be blue or red shifted....

http://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/speed_of_light.html

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I've been away from the QM 'thinking process' for a good while  now  but the most recent  QM subject I can recall reading about was its relation to computer technology. Have you heard anything about that recently?
i read a few articles on quantum computing but...it ws a half assed read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computer

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I never could understand Schrodinger's cat though. I kind of recall that ... "It's not there until we see it there." And I sort of recall something similar to it in long ago philosophy class.
the cat is both dead and alive at the same time...its in quantum flux...when you observe it you collapse the wave function and it has to pick a state...either dead or alive....below is a movie and a book i think you'll like

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/ekitap.ekitap/SFaV_P-r1UI/AAAAAAAAAFE/yQnmWvteuTU/emperors.new.mind_thumb[2].jpg)


part 1 of the elegant universe..you can find the rest on you tube


Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: stuntmovie on April 24, 2010, 11:40:24 AM
Thanks, Toxic! I might be a bit "fooked-up" when it comes to this QM stuff but that info you just provided gave me a serious set of goose-bumps up to my elbows.

Will be heading off to Border's this afternoon.

Thanks!

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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 24, 2010, 11:52:04 AM
Thanks, Toxic! I might be a bit "fooked-up" when it comes to this QM stuff but that info you just provided gave me a serious set of goose-bumps up to my elbows.

Will be heading off to Border's this afternoon.

Thanks!



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Post by: MAXX on April 24, 2010, 12:19:46 PM

what would you know of physics you ufo/alien/conspiracy theorizing- retard terrorist  :D
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Post by: Big Worm on April 24, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
watch the damn video.....its actually pretty cool....

and if i wanted to look smart i woulda posted about something i know a lot more about
Captain Misery ,getting owned in one of his stupid threads...
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 24, 2010, 12:26:48 PM
what would you know of physics you ufo/alien/conspiracy theorizing- retard terrorist  :D

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b80/thefallen574/PhysicsJoke.jpg) ;D
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: wavelength on April 24, 2010, 02:26:14 PM
The misconception is that modern physics somehow is "magic". The world is magic, independent of current scientific findings. Newtonian physics was just as magic as Einsteins or Schrödingers is today.
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: Fatpanda on April 24, 2010, 03:35:59 PM
buddha often spoke about these riddlesof nature, science and everything in between.

in the end - none of it has any effect on your life - so why waste so much effort chasing an illusionary answer to an illusionary question when nothing in this life is real anyway.

:)
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Post by: daddy8ball on April 24, 2010, 04:00:08 PM
Very cool post. Thanks!  :o
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Post by: Fatpanda on April 24, 2010, 04:05:30 PM
Very cool post. Thanks!  :o

you are welcome  ;D
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Post by: FREAKgeek on April 24, 2010, 04:28:54 PM
This thread is all fine and dandy, but what the hell does it have to do with shaved oiled men in thongs?
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: FREAKgeek on April 24, 2010, 04:38:44 PM

I've always been interested (since I was a kid) to learn if you could see a light particle (wave or otherwise) if you traveled along side of it at the same speed as that light particle. By traveling along side of it - it would not strike your 'eyeball', so it should be invisible. SO, is it actually there or not!? Does it only become "there" when your 'eyeball' sees it? Or otherwise - does it only become 'reality' when it meets it's full potential? And is that 'reality' real outside of one's own experience.

I believe that's Theory of Relativity and not QM like Toxic kinda implied.
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: Fatpanda on April 24, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
This thread is all fine and dandy, but what the hell does it have to do with shaved oiled men in thongs?

i believe buddhas words were very similar  ;D
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 24, 2010, 06:32:58 PM
This thread is all fine and dandy, but what the hell does it have to do with shaved oiled men in thongs?

oiled men in thongs are EVERYWHERE.....here...th e moon....mars.....the sun....

only the probability of finding them in a particular location varies!  ;D
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Post by: leonmitchell on April 24, 2010, 07:29:01 PM
power of intentions
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Post by: stuntmovie on April 24, 2010, 11:11:28 PM
Good cartoon, Toxic, but those of us GetBiggers who know nothing about QM would not understand it.

And I'd have to go back and re-read chapter 4 to fully explain it intelligently.

Fat, yep!! Buddah was a very wise man and QM theorists agree with a lot he had to say.

Freakgeek, you are partially correct in your QM/Theory of Relatively statement but there is a strong correlation between QM and 'relativity' which is mentioned in Dancing Wu Li; but what I was attempting to describe in that post is what is called a 'thought problem' which one can only attempt to solve  within his/her own mind. Such problems cannot be physically tested in a physical laboratory.  (Until much later on of course.)

My problem is that I can think of the problems but am too stupid to contemplate the solutions unless I resort to 'nonsense' - which in many cases have proven to be other than nonsense when thought of by real intelligent guys.

I have been told that this was how Einstein initially developed the Special and General Theories of Relativity. He would think of 'nonsense' in an attempt to solve a problem and then get together with his highly intelligent buddies and eventually think of the solution.

Hey, not to change the subject here but I watched the new Sony 3D flat screen TV today for about 30 minutes and was very impressed. They said it will be on the market sometime this summer and cost about 20% more than the flat screen models. You have to wear glasses to see it but they were very comfortable. The 3D video games impressed me the most. Get close enough to that huge screen and you actually feel like you're a part of the action. I'm surprised that Cameron didn't wait before he released Avatar on video, but it will more than likely be available when Sony takes the 3D units to market.
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: hazbin on April 24, 2010, 11:15:20 PM
Toxic and Wavelength Thanks for posting and discussing this QM subject matter. Haven't even read it all yet but I gotta say the following and then jump into it.

I am not even close to being "brilliant" but many years ago a lady I knew was reading "Dancing Wu Li Masters" and she told me that it was a very interesting book on the basics of Quantum Mechanics.

I knew she had an extremely high IQ and asked her if a dummy such as myself would be able to read it and understand it. She merely laughed and said, "You'd master it in no time at all!"

SO I got a copy and read it from cover to cover and for the first time in my life I realized how 'stupit' I really was. But the little that I sort of understood while reading it that first time was so damn interesting that I decided to read it again..... and over the years I read it at least seven times - but I'm still pretty damn 'stupid' when it comes to QM.

Then about a year ago I attended a family function and met a young 'physicist' (may be the wrong name) and I had the opportunity to ask some questions from someone who worked in the field of QM on a daily basis and for a living.

I then discovered that I was able to discuss various parts of QM intelligently and was informed that I understood QM pretty well even though it was still a big mystery in my own mind.

He then informed me that QM is still a very big mystery even within the minds of QM experts and will probably remain to be a major mystery for many years to come.

I've always been interested (since I was a kid) to learn if you could see a light particle (wave or otherwise) if you traveled along side of it at the same speed as that light particle.

By traveling along side of it - it would not strike your 'eyeball', so it should be invisible. SO, is it actually there or not!?

Does it only become "there" when your 'eyeball' sees it? Or otherwise - does it only become 'reality' when it meets it's full potential? And is that 'reality' real outside of one's own experience.

That 'thought' resulted in a pretty interesting discussion.

I've been away from the QM 'thinking process' for a good while  now  but the most recent  QM subject I can recall reading about was its relation to computer technology. Have you heard anything about that recently?

I never could understand Schrodinger's cat though. I kind of recall that ... "It's not there until we see it there." And I sort of recall something similar to it in long ago philosophy class.

Thanks for posting this. Encourages me to expand my mind once again, but thinking deeply for too long a time period was never really my expertise.

Read "Dancing Wu Li Masters' if you are interested in basic QM.







i would say if you travelled alongside a light beam at the same speed you would not see it. fighter pilots do not hear the sonic booms they create, do they?  wouldnt' that be the same concept?
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: Tapeworm on April 25, 2010, 12:15:56 AM
i would say if you travelled alongside a light beam at the same speed you would not see it. fighter pilots do not hear the sonic booms they create, do they?  wouldnt' that be the same concept?

Not sure it is the same.  The essence of special relativity is that the laws of physics are the same for all observers in uniform motion (not accelerating).  On earth we observe light traveling at 186,00 miles per second.  It's tempting to think of our platform as THE frame of reference, like us standing on the roadside and saying a car is in motion going past us.  But if we removed the road (and other frames of reference), who is to say that they are standing still and the other is moving?  The guy in the car could say he's staying still and we are moving.  I think that's why it's called relativity, because there is no absolute frame of reference in the universe and the best we can do is to say that we are moving relative to one another.

If physics is the same for all observers then everyone observes light traveling at 186,000 miles/s.  A guy in a spaceship that we see moving at half the speed of light doesn't observe light moving half as fast (or 1.5x as fast if he's moving toward its source).  He sees it moving 186,000 miles/s (and according to him, we're moving at half the speed of light!).  It's really counterintuitive stuff.  
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Post by: webcake on April 25, 2010, 12:18:52 AM
obviously you nerds went to college.....
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Post by: Tapeworm on April 25, 2010, 12:20:13 AM
obviously you nerds went to college.....

Not yet.  Think it's too late?  ;D
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Post by: webcake on April 25, 2010, 12:24:35 AM
well at your age i imagine your kids will be in college in the next few years..............so yes, too late.
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Post by: stuntmovie on April 25, 2010, 12:26:32 AM
Thanks, Haz. I don't think you would see the light beam  because light can either be a wave or a particle and a particle can only travel in a straight line unless it is affected by a gravitational force (another big discovery by the smart guys) and that particle of of light (think of it as a bullet in a constant stream of bullets) has to strike your eyeball to be seen.

So if you travel beside it, you would both be traveling in the same direction without it hitting your eyeball - so I assume it would be invisible. (I'm not sure how 'blue shift'/red shift' would pertain here in the least.)

And the mere fact that you are 'looking at it or in its direction' causes a number of other interesting possibliities that completely blow my head off.

Its almost like those little bits of matter (energy??) know that you are looking (measuring)  and react 'accordingly'.

I am completely 'losted' if we were to talk about traveling alongside the wave format.

And if you really want to lose your mind - get into string theory and parallel universes.

In your example where  the  fighter pilots do not hear the sonic booms they create, I think that they don't hear it because they are ahead of it and those sound waves are too slow to catch up with them.



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Post by: Tapeworm on April 25, 2010, 12:31:55 AM
well at your age i imagine your kids will be in college in the next few years..............so yes, too late.

Low blow, Web!

Still.  The eye candy.  Ya got me thinking.
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: stuntmovie on April 25, 2010, 12:41:13 AM
Web, I never heard of QM, String Theory, Parallel Universes, or Einstein's theories in college. I merely accepted a challenge to read a basic book on QM, etc. and got hooked.

As I stated earlier, I had to read that book at least seven times to understand a little bit about QM but I do enjoy trying to think about how it all works when I got nothing else to think about.

No college required. You just need a genuine interest on how 'stuff' really works and then proceed to get 'blown away' when the smart guys try to explain to some of us dumb guys what they think is really happening every day all around us from your inner toe to the far ends of the universe.

Right now they are saying that everything is 'connected'.

Or something like that.
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Post by: James Blunt on April 25, 2010, 01:01:44 AM
if this isn't about muscle men in thongs, then i don't know shit....
Ain't that the truth
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: Parker on April 25, 2010, 01:48:36 AM
Web, I never heard of QM, String Theory, Parallel Universes, or Einstein's theories in college. I merely accepted a challenge to read a basic book on QM, etc. and got hooked.

As I stated earlier, I had to read that book at least seven times to understand a little bit about QM but I do enjoy trying to think about how it all works when I got nothing else to think about.

No college required. You just need a genuine interest on how 'stuff' really works and then proceed to get 'blown away' when the smart guys try to explain to some of us dumb guys what they think is really happening every day all around us from your inner toe to the far ends of the universe.

Right now they are saying that everything is 'connected'.Or something like that.
Hell, I could have tou that...basically they broke everything down, and found out that our world is one big puzzle, and each piece is connected to the other. The problem is, there are sooooo many pieces, and the puzzle keeps getting bigger and bigger.
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Post by: muscularny on April 25, 2010, 04:50:06 AM
But didnt a human eye watch it before they places the camera?
Title: Re: The magic of Physics! < Quantum mechanix: the double slit experiment>
Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 25, 2010, 07:58:56 AM
i would say if you travelled alongside a light beam at the same speed you would not see it. fighter pilots do not hear the sonic booms they create, do they?  wouldnt' that be the same concept?

the famous mitchelson morley experiment proved otherwise
http://www.desy.de/user/projects/Physics/Relativity/SpeedOfLight/speed_of_light.html
Special Relativity

Another assumption on the laws of physics made by the SI definition of the metre is that the theory of relativity is correct.  It is a basic postulate of the theory of relativity that the speed of light is constant.  This can be broken down into two parts:

The speed of light is independent of the motion of the observer.
The speed of light does not vary with time or place.

To state that the speed of light is independent of the velocity of the observer is very counterintuitive.  Some people even refuse to accept this as a logically consistent possibility, but in 1905 Einstein was able to show that it is perfectly consistent if you are prepared to give up assumptions about the absolute nature of space and time.

In 1879 it was thought that light must propagate through a medium in space just as sound propagates through the air and other substances.  The two scientists Michelson and Morley set up an experiment to attempt to detect the ether, by observing relative changes in the speed of light as the Earth changed its direction of travel relative to the sun during the year.  To their surprise, they failed to detect any change in the speed of light.

Fitzgerald then suggested that this might be because the experimental apparatus contracted as it passed through the ether, in such a way as to countermand the attempt to detect the change in velocity.  Lorentz extended this idea to changes in the rates of clocks to ensure complete undetectability of the ether.  Einstein then argued that those transformations should be understood as changes of space and time rather than of physical objects, and that the absoluteness of space and time introduced by Newton should be discarded.  Just after that, the mathematician Minkowski showed that Einstein's theory of relativity could be understood in terms of a four dimensional non-euclidean geometry that considered space and time as one entity, ever after called spacetime.

The theory is not only mathematically consistent, it is in agreement with countless direct experiments.  The Michelson-Morley experiment was repeated with greater accuracy in the years that followed.  In 1925 Dayton Miller announced that he had detected a change in velocity of the speed of light and was even awarded prizes for the discovery, but a 1950s appraisal of his work indicated that the most likely origin of his results lay with diurnal and seasonal variations in the temperature of his equipment.

Modern instruments could easily detect any ether drift if it existed.  The Earth moves around the sun at a speed of about 30 km/s, so if velocities added vectorially as newtonian mechanics requires, the last 5 digits in the value of the speed of light now used in the SI definition of the metre would be meaningless.  Today, high energy physicists at CERN in Geneva and Fermilab in Chicago routinely accelerate particles to within a whisper of the speed of light.  Any dependence of the speed of light on reference frames would have shown up long ago, unless it is very slight indeed.
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 25, 2010, 08:03:35 AM
it should be sorta understandable to the nerds here that actually brought copies of " a brief history of time" and actually read it in high school....n then instead of being the nerds that discussed monthy python around the nerd group....discussed this crap :(
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Post by: stuntmovie on April 25, 2010, 08:49:00 AM
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/dancing_wulimasters.pdf

The above link will take you to a on-line PDF copy of "Dancing Wu Li Masters" which I believe helps to teach the basics of QM as simply as possible. You can actually start on page 25 as numbered on the bottom of each page.

I suggest reading one chapter at a time and re-read that chapter if necessary until it is understood. Then proceed to the next chapter.

It gets complicated rather swiftly but is worth reading. I recall that it also gets in the subject of Parallel worlds which will really warp your brain,
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Post by: Tapeworm on April 25, 2010, 09:11:49 AM
it should be sorta understandable to the nerds here that actually brought copies of " a brief history of time" and actually read it in high school....n then instead of being the nerds that discussed monthy python around the nerd group....discussed this crap :(

Just remember when you're feeling very small and insecure
How amazingly unlikely was your birth!
And let's pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space
Because there's bugger all down here on the Earth.
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Post by: FREAKgeek on April 25, 2010, 09:15:24 AM
Stephen Hawking and his cronies all sit around a round table and make this stuff up.
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Post by: Hulkster on April 25, 2010, 09:21:31 AM
anyone read Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe"?

I read it in university. its very good. great into to string theory.
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Post by: FREAKgeek on April 25, 2010, 09:26:03 AM
 Stephen Hawking bet Kip Thorne that the X-ray source Cygnus X-1 does not harbour a black hole. If it's not true he has to give Kip a 4 year subscription to Penthouse magazine.

I believe Hawking loves the fine boobie shots.
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Post by: Tapeworm on April 25, 2010, 09:39:40 AM
Stephen Hawking bet Kip Thorne that the X-ray source Cygnus X-1 does not harbour a black hole. If it's not true he has to give Kip a 4 year subscription to Penthouse magazine.

I believe Hawking loves the fine boobie shots.

We all owe a debt of gratitude to pussy magnet Richard Feynman, originator of the smedium tshirt attraction theory.

(http://www.sosaapt.org/Pix/Feynman.JPG)
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Post by: YngiweRhoads on April 25, 2010, 09:42:31 AM
We all owe a debt of gratitude to pussy magnet Richard Feynman, originator of the smedium tshirt attraction theory.

(http://www.sosaapt.org/Pix/Feynman.JPG)

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Post by: Tapeworm on April 25, 2010, 09:50:01 AM


Genius but what a twitchy geek he was.
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Post by: Howard on April 25, 2010, 09:52:25 AM
once upon a time i wanted to be a physics major.....i took a buncha classes as electives but my parents forced me into biology  >:(
I actually teach physics for a living and I enjoyed it.
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 25, 2010, 09:57:49 AM
anyone read Brian Greene's "The Elegant Universe"?

I read it in university. its very good. great into to string theory.

its on youtube....the whole thing!  8)

didn 't read it...but watched it
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 25, 2010, 09:58:44 AM
I actually teach physics for a living and I enjoyed it.

i ws wondering when you were gonna show up in this thread...and thats ALL you have to say?  >:(
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Post by: Howard on April 25, 2010, 10:01:29 AM
i ws wondering when you were gonna show up in this thread...and thats ALL you have to say?  >:(
It is get big not an AAPT conference c'mon hehehe
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 25, 2010, 10:03:06 AM
It is get big not an AAPT conference c'mon hehehe

fine...it IS getbig....

i once told this chick who ws a physics major that i'd show her my normal vector if she'd play with it!  ;D
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Post by: cauthon on April 25, 2010, 10:37:05 AM
watch the damn video.....its actually pretty cool....

and if i wanted to look smart i woulda posted about something i know a lot more about

Or done something like this:
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Post by: Immortal_Technique on April 25, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
Two slits interfering with each other.

http://youporn.com/watch/284974/audrey-jenaveve-extra-credit-classroom-fuck/?from=search_full&pos=4
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Post by: BIG ACH on April 25, 2010, 10:52:55 AM

In undergrad, I majored in Systems Engineering.  Had to take Calc 1, 2, and 3, and Physics 1 and 2, and of course a million engineering courses....


Whats funny is when I was in Physics, it was during the time the US went to war in Afganistan right after September 11th, so our exam questions in class looked something like this:

" Part 1)  A US Fighter jet is trying to drop a missile at a terrorist compound at coordinates of blah blah X blah blah, while avoiding the civilians neighborhoods at coordinates blah blah X blah blah...  If the jet is flying at an altitutde of blah blah, at a speed of blah blah, what is the projecticle angle that should be used, in order to terminate the terrorists while avoiding the civilians?
Part 2)  After destroying the terrorist compound, the fighter jet would like to drop food to the Afganistan civilians, what speed should the jet accelerate at in order to drop the food at coordnates of blah blah X blah blah?

I shit you not!!! I busted out laughing when I saw these questions, there were many more like that!
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 25, 2010, 11:11:58 AM
In undergrad, I majored in Systems Engineering.  Had to take Calc 1, 2, and 3, and Physics 1 and 2, and of course a million engineering courses....


Whats funny is when I was in Physics, it was during the time the US went to war in Afganistan right after September 11th, so our exam questions in class looked something like this:

" Part 1)  A US Fighter jet is trying to drop a missile at a terrorist compound at coordinates of blah blah X blah blah, while avoiding the civilians neighborhoods at coordinates blah blah X blah blah...  If the jet is flying at an altitutde of blah blah, at a speed of blah blah, what is the projecticle angle that should be used, in order to terminate the terrorists while avoiding the civilians?
Part 2)  After destroying the terrorist compound, the fighter jet would like to drop food to the Afganistan civilians, what speed should the jet accelerate at in order to drop the food at coordnates of blah blah X blah blah?

I shit you not!!! I busted out laughing when I saw these questions, there were many more like that!


i ws forced into biology by my folks but i managed to take calc 1,2,3 and physics 1 and 2 and a few astronomy courses as electives...till my parents caught on what i ws doing...other than anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 and biomechanics i hated every organic chem, every micro biology...every physical chem blah blahh class i took..
eventually i told my parents it ws either my change to physics or quit school altogether and they wouldn't listen....so i simply quit going to classes and went ahead and let em pay for it...since they insisted....around that time i drank a lot and spent a lot of time in the gym...so i ws the heaviest i've ever been...210lbs at 5 10...
2 semesters later Univ of Maryland kicked me out for flunking all my classes  ;D
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Post by: BIG ACH on April 25, 2010, 11:19:26 AM
i ws forced into biology by my folks but i managed to take calc 1,2,3 and physics 1 and 2 and a few astronomy courses as electives...till my parents caught on what i ws doing...other than anatomy and physiology 1 and 2 and biomechanics i hated every organic chem, every micro biology...every physical chem blah blahh class i took..
eventually i told my parents it ws either my change to physics or quit school altogether and they wouldn't listen....so i simply quit going to classes and went ahead and let em pay for it...since they insisted....around that time i drank a lot and spent a lot of time in the gym...so i ws the heaviest i've ever been...210lbs at 5 10...
2 semesters later Univ of Maryland kicked me out for flunking all my classes  ;D

I took both Bio and Chem - HATED BOTH OF THEM, Chem more so, oh my god I hate chem with a passion!!!!


I also took Human Sexuality in undergrad LOL..  We we were all assigned topics for presentations, and mine was on Wet Dreams, I asked the professor if I could spill a jug of water on my pants before I presented to add some humor and interest and she got really pissed off and said NO!  LOL  I ended up getting a B in that class... WTF, that really hit my ego, I GOT A B IN HUMAN SEXUALITY! LOL
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 25, 2010, 11:33:33 AM
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I took both Bio and Chem - HATED BOTH OF THEM, Chem more so, oh my god I hate chem with a passion!!
agreed....i think there is NO other boring subject than chem....ok maybe history...i hated chem with a passion..and the professors were so damn boring


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I also took Human Sexuality in undergrad LOL..  We we were all assigned topics for presentations, and mine was on Wet Dreams, I asked the professor if I could spill a jug of water on my pants before I presented to add some humor and interest and she got really pissed off and said NO!  LOL  I ended up getting a B in that class... WTF, that really hit my ego, I GOT A B IN HUMAN SEXUALITY! LOL
in microbiology we had to do some kinda presentation on "mystery bacteria" that we had to identify and then we got to name(we basically got un marked petri dishes with the mystery organism) ....i named ours " streptococcus maximus"  ;D  the TA thought that ws pretty funny
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Post by: BIG ACH on April 25, 2010, 11:46:44 AM
agreed....i think there is NO other boring subject than chem....ok maybe history...i hated chem with a passion..and the professors were so damn boring

in microbiology we had to do some kinda presentation on "mystery bacteria" that we had to identify and then we got to name(we basically got un marked petri dishes with the mystery organism) ....i named ours " streptococcus maximus"  ;D  the TA thought that ws pretty funny


Thats funny dude LOL.  I had some friends that graduated from UMD!  Good school, have some family that work there too!
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Post by: ToxicAvenger on April 25, 2010, 12:16:45 PM
Thats funny dude LOL.  I had some friends that graduated from UMD!  Good school, have some family that work there too!

thats their new gym building n pool..that building also houses r olympic indoor pools...a 2 story gym...squash and racket ball courts...a few massage rooms....basketball courts...a hydrotherapy pool....a climbing wall. :-\
(http://www.union.umd.edu/GH/health_recreation/images/CRC.jpg)