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thanks.... motivates to stay consistant with training... thinking girls way too much... there's only 365 days in a year :(
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Mayweather is gonna fuck him up bad
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Mayweather is gonna fuck him up bad
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it wont happen. FMW will back up and peal Mosley shots off of his shoulder and counter. Mosley will land power shots late and force FMW to fight. i wouldnt be surprise if shane is ahead 3-2 after 5 rds. 12 and FMW on a split. mosley aint Oscar or Hatton by a long short. And FMW isnt a bigger fighter like Wrighter or Forest to give mosley major problems with power shots.
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(http://blogs.trb.com/sports/boxing/blog/manny-Pacquiao-0503.jpg)
Nuff said.
yes , Filipino genetic supremacy ...born in my home town ...
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(http://blogs.trb.com/sports/boxing/blog/manny-Pacquiao-0503.jpg)
Nuff said.
nothing said.
his fights are hand picked like an early tyson before buster douglas. plus he has 5 loses
cotto and hatton - head first
oscar - offensive but over-the-hill
mr crab - no commit
mosley - big 147
berto - roach would have put manny against quintana and continued the BS
williams - big like hearns but can scale down to 147
martinez - catch weight fight and so fast roach wouldnt touch him
FMW - defense but slick without berto style aggression. more mr crab but will give manny his 6th lost if he get past mosley who is LEGIT.
if no manny n FMW roach will stay away from the other 4. they just said who his next fight would be if not FMW and it's another tomato.
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it wont happen. FMW will back up and peal Mosley shots off of his shoulder and counter. Mosley will land power shots late and force FMW to fight. i wouldnt be surprise if shane is ahead 3-2 after 5 rds. 12 and FMW on a split. mosley aint Oscar or Hatton by a long short. And FMW isnt a bigger fighter like Wrighter or Forest to give mosley major problems with power shots.
Split decision? Nah, Floyd by UD 116-112, 117-110 and 115-113.
You said Mosley isn't Oscar or Hatton by a long shot. Hatton, yes. But Oscar is a better Boxer than Mosley is and Mosley could be now just as washed up Oscar was in Oscar's fight vs. Pac. Mosley is getting old, but Oscar and Mosley at their prime were overall pretty equal. Mosley won't do any better than Oscar did vs. Floyd which was pretty good actually.
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Split decision? Nah, Floyd by UD 116-112, 117-110 and 115-113.
You said Mosley isn't Oscar or Hatton by a long shot. Hatton, yes. But Oscar is a better Boxer than Mosley is and Mosley could be now just as washed up Oscar was in Oscar's fight vs. Pac. Mosley is getting old, but Oscar and Mosley at their prime were overall pretty equal. Mosley won't do any better than Oscar did vs. Floyd which was pretty good actually.
and FMW is 33 now...so he aint what he use to be. dont buy into the hype. styles make fights. mosley is more judah than oscar or hatton...given he can get a punch off faster but he wont lose it like Judah. FMW wins but he will have to fight late and mosley positive aggression may have him ahead by rds 5-6.
mosley will fight these guys but FMW will avoid and Roach will come up with every excuse. PAC n FMW would fight a shot Quintana only. Martinez, Williams n Berto can make 147 or a catch weight.
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G thong STFU you don't know shit about boxing .
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145lb "men" in shorts with pillows on their hands is serious bidness. ;D
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nothing said.
his fights are hand picked like an early tyson before buster douglas. plus he has 5 loses
cotto and hatton - head first
oscar - offensive but over-the-hill
mr crab - no commit
mosley - big 147
berto - roach would have put manny against quintana and continued the BS
williams - big like hearns but can scale down to 147
martinez - catch weight fight and so fast roach wouldnt touch him
FMW - defense but slick without berto style aggression. more mr crab but will give manny his 6th lost if he get past mosley who is LEGIT.
if no manny n FMW roach will stay away from the other 4. they just said who his next fight would be if not FMW and it's another tomato.
Miguel Cotto beat SM
Who exactly has 5 losses?
Manny Pacquiao has lost 3 times and 2 of those losses were at the beginning of his career when he was a flyweight.
The other loss was against Morales and he kicked his ass in the rematch and rubber match.
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
Lebwaba
Ricky Hatton
ODH
Miguel Cotto who was a bigger welterweight than Mosley
Joshua Clottey was a good welterweight who arguably beat Cotto
Who is Berto and what has he accomplished thats so brilliant? The man arguably lost to Collazo and struggled with Stevie Forbes.
Just because he has fast hands doesnt make him a better win than any of the others on that list
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Miguel Cotto beat SM
Who exactly has 5 losses?
Manny Pacquiao has lost 3 times and 2 of those losses were at the beginning of his career when he was a flyweight.
The other loss was against Morales and he kicked his ass in the rematch and rubber match.
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
Lebwaba
Ricky Hatton
ODH
Miguel Cotto who was a bigger welterweight than Mosley
Joshua Clottey was a good welterweight who arguably beat Cotto
Who is Berto and what has he accomplished thats so brilliant? The man arguably lost to Collazo and struggled with Stevie Forbes.
Just because he has fast hands doesnt make him a better win than any of the others on that list
i could care less at what weight. he got 5 marks on his record so you know he can be had. williams, martinez and berto are the dangerous guys. FMW would have taken a tomato if he could...not mosley. pac fights are hand picked. f##kin cotto, oscar, hatton and clottey.
if berto wasnt s##t why would a vet like mosley sign up for the kid? good mark on his record if he had survive a war with him.
cheesy nothing as usual.
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What about MooseJay? What every happened to Mike Dusa? He was a big bodybuilding fan up here in CT. Then he got sick, very sick.
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i could care less at what weight. he got 5 marks on his record so you know he can be had. williams, martinez and berto are the dangerous guys. FMW would have taken a tomato if he could...not mosley. pac fights are hand picked. f##kin cotto, oscar, hatton and clottey.
if berto wasnt s##t why would a vet like mosley sign up for the kid? good mark on his record if he had survive a war with him.
cheesy nothing as usual.
wtf are you talking about?
Manny Pacquiao has 3 losses not 5
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i could care less at what weight. he got 5 marks on his record so you know he can be had. williams, martinez and berto are the dangerous guys. FMW would have taken a tomato if he could...not mosley. pac fights are hand picked. f##kin cotto, oscar, hatton and clottey.
if berto wasnt s##t why would a vet like mosley sign up for the kid? good mark on his record if he had survive a war with him.
cheesy nothing as usual.
And why would Pacquiao fight Mosley? Mosley has lost 5 times, one of them against Miguel Cotto.
Sergio Martinez is a middleweight not a welterweight, ur talking out your ass.
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and FMW is 33 now...so he aint what he use to be. dont buy into the hype. styles make fights. mosley is more judah than oscar or hatton...given he can get a punch off faster but he wont lose it like Judah. FMW wins but he will have to fight late and mosley positive aggression may have him ahead by rds 5-6.
Mosley isn't nearly as fast as Zab at this stage in his career and isn't as fast as he was 10 years ago. Mosley doesn't have the movement Zab did. Mosley has a punchers chance and that's about it. His pressure won't shake Floyd whatsoever. Floyd is in HIS prime right now. To say he's not what he used to be is just a little off. He's just as fast, bigger and stronger than ever and still has that "0" which is proof of it.
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And why would Pacquiao fight Mosley? Mosley has lost 5 times, one of them against Miguel Cotto.
Sergio Martinez is a middleweight not a welterweight, ur talking out your ass.
roach already said he still too big at the bell. in other words too dangerous. go talk to roach. he is still a better payday than clottey. get real.
martinez can make a catch weight just like williams bouncing from 147 - 160. get real again.
no experts on here...just opinions like assholes.
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145lb "men" in shorts with pillows on their hands is serious bidness. ;D
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Mosley isn't nearly as fast as Zab at this stage in his career and isn't as fast as he was 10 years ago. Mosley doesn't have the movement Zab did. Mosley has a punchers chance and that's about it. His pressure won't shake Floyd whatsoever. Floyd is in HIS prime right now. To say he's not what he used to be is just a little off. He's just as fast, bigger and stronger than ever and still has that "0" which is proof of it.
mosley is the aggressor n the aggressor will tend to get his shot off first. fmw will do as usual and deflect off of his shoulder and counter. what are you talking about? but mosley isnt a head case like a judah and will stay steady throughout the fight. alot of crack in the thread if people think mosley cant bring a fight to a counter-puncher better than oscar or hatton could.
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Mosley is 10 years past his prime , Mosley will keep it competitive for the first 5 rounds but will begin to fade down the stretch ,Mayweather wins an easy UD or late TKO stoppage.
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mosley is the aggressor n the aggressor will tend to get his shot off first. fmw will do as usual and deflect off of his shoulder and counter. what are you talking about? but mosley isnt a head case like a judah and will stay steady throughout the fight. alot of crack in the thread if people think mosley cant bring a fight to a counter-puncher better than oscar or hatton could.
First of all, Oscar is a better boxer than Shane and a better tactician. He's smarter than Shane. Shane is better in coming forward than oscar and all out brawling, but Floyd won't be brawling and Floyds defense is just too good. Shane will get picked apart with counters a lot worse than Oscar did.
Floyd's whole game is allowing his opponent to get their shots off first so not sure what your point is there saying Shane will get his shots off first. That plays right into Floyd's strategy.
If shane was a better boxer, and not just a come forward type of fighter that doesn't adapt well, then he'd have a better chance.
Mosley will have his moments, don't get me wrong, but at this stage in their careers Floyd's just too quick and too ring savvy for this older version of Shane.
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Mosley is 10 years past his prime , Mosley will keep it competitive for the first 5 rounds but will begin to fade down the stretch ,Mayweather wins an easy UD or late TKO stoppage.
I agree but can't see Floyd stopping Mosley. If he did though, that would be epic! Definitely a UD though
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145lb "men" in shorts with pillows on their hands is serious bidness. ;D
Lets look at your bank account then let's look at theirs...It's not serious, it's Big Business.
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Lets look at your bank account then let's look at theirs...It's not serious, it's Big Business.
They need that money to hire big guys to protect their scrawny asses when they are in public, LOL.
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They need that money to hire big guys to protect their scrawny asses when they are in public, LOL.
They're payin those guys scraps.
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They're payin those guys scraps.
The point is they still need protection so they don't get their fragile asses beat.
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The point is they still need protection so they don't get their fragile asses beat.
Of course. He'd get his little ass robbed every day...even from me and we're relatives.
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The point is they still need protection so they don't get their fragile asses beat.
Floyd hires these guys because he can. He wants to look famous and it has nothing to do with him worrying someone can kick his ass
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First of all, Oscar is a better boxer than Shane and a better tactician. He's smarter than Shane.
idiot
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Floyd hires these guys because he can. He wants to look famous and it has nothing to do with him worrying someone can kick his ass
LOL, OK, then what about the rest of them?
;D
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yes , Filipino genetic supremacy ...born in my home town ...
in over 100 years, all they have developed is a fucking boxer, way to go, goo history :D
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idiot
You're the fukin idiot. Name one thing other than being a better aggressor that Shane is better than Oscar at?
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You're the fukin idiot. Name one thing other than being a better aggressor that Shane is better than Oscar at?
oscar basically lost to the best 5 boxers he faced. :-\
mosley x 2, felix, manny, hopkins, and fmw. who did he beat? ray leonard hype without the real results when it counted. shows BS can make u money in the states.
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in over 100 years, all they have developed is a fucking boxer, way to go, goo history :D
They've developed hot broads there also...Full lips, nice brown skin, round asses...Very subservient also.
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two men fighting
you are neither
you know neither
they are wearing pads over their fists, theres lots of rules to make sure nothing exciting happens.. just maybe a knockout.
the men are 130lbs and think the best way to win a fight is to dance aorund for 30 minutes and try to land enough 50%power punches on the other dude to wear him out...
what a sport...
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They've developed hot broads there also...Full lips, nice brown skin, round asses...Very subservient also.
those light pulp sized whores? ;D
thanks I'll stick with the hottest ones 8)
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oscar basically lost to the best 5 boxers he faced. :-\
mosley x 2, felix, manny, hopkins, and fmw. who did he beat? ray leonard hype without the real results when it counted. shows BS can make u money in the states.
Lets start with Pernell Whitaker, Prime Ike Quartey, legend Chavez twice, Rafael Ruelas, Prime Fernando Vargas, Prime Miguel Gonzalez, the list goes on.
The funny things is, half the fighters you mentioned he lost to he won. You gotta be a few marbles short if you think Trinidad and Mosley 2 won those fights. I'll give you Sturm, although Oscar won on the scorecards, but Sturm did beat Oscar but if you know anything about boxing and saw that fight then you'd know Oscar had no business at middleweight, especially fighting in the worst shape of his career. Nobody other than Pac has ever dominated Oscar. Mosley was dominated twice against Forrest, who Mayorga beat twice and Oscar Ko'd Mayorga inside 6 rounds. And Mosley was also dominated against Winky Wright TWICE.
Fuk, Mosley barely beat Oscar's left overs in Mayorga and took him 12 rounds to finally KO him.
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two men fighting
you are neither
you know neither
they are wearing pads over their fists, theres lots of rules to make sure nothing exciting happens.. just maybe a knockout.
the men are 130lbs and think the best way to win a fight is to dance aorund for 30 minutes and try to land enough 50%power punches on the other dude to wear him out...
what a sport...
Would you like me to break bodybuilding down...a "sport" in which you participate?
Boxing WAS an incredible sport.
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those light pulp sized whores? ;D
thanks I'll stick with the hottest ones 8)
that's a pretty ok ginger.
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Lets start with Pernell Whitaker, Prime Ike Quartey, legend Chavez twice, Rafael Ruelas, Prime Fernando Vargas, Prime Miguel Gonzalez, the list goes on.
The funny things is, half the fighters you mentioned he lost to he won. You gotta be a few marbles short if you think Trinidad and Mosley 2 won those fights. I'll give you Sturm, although Oscar won on the scorecards, but Sturm did beat Oscar but if you know anything about boxing and saw that fight then you'd know Oscar had no business at middleweight, especially fighting in the worst shape of his career. Nobody other than Pac has ever dominated Oscar. Mosley was dominated twice against Forrest, who Mayorga beat twice and Oscar Ko'd Mayorga inside 6 rounds. And Mosley was also dominated against Winky Wright TWICE.
Fuk, Mosley barely beat Oscar's left overs in Mayorga and took him 12 rounds to finally KO him.
outside of pernell n chavez (on his last leg ala oscar vs manny) these guys rank outside the 5 guys i listed. what ? mark? you telling me oscar beat hopkins...for example...on his knees?
north american sports is about hype and money. oscar got the image and "name" that sold. that's about it.
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outside of pernell n chavez (on his last leg ala oscar vs manny) these guys rank outside the 5 guys i listed. what ? mark? you telling me oscar beat hopkins...for example...on his knees?
north american sports is about hype and money. oscar got the image and "name" that sold. that's about it.
Again Oscar was at middleweight in his fight with Hopkins. But again, if you watched that fight, Oscar was leading after 6 rounds on all scorecards and was up on one judges scorecard at the time of the stoppage in the 9th round. Hopkins was nowhere near dominating Oscar before that mystery kidney punch landed.
Out of the 5 guys you listed Oscar beat two of them. Oscar fukin schooled tito and although he did lose a split decision against Mosley the first fight he practically dominated Mosley in their second fight doubling his punches landed. Oscar got fuked by the judges in those two big fights.
And as far as Oscar vs. Floyd's concerned, again Oscar was leading after 8-9 rounds but faded and allowed Floyd to catch up and steal a split decision over him. This wasn't prime Oscar either, this was the aging Oscar with diminishing skills at the time they fought.
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Again Oscar was at middleweight in his fight with Hopkins. But again, if you watched that fight, Oscar was leading after 6 rounds on all scorecards and was up on one judges scorecard at the time of the stoppage in the 9th round. Hopkins was nowhere near dominating Oscar before that mystery kidney punch landed.
Out of the 5 guys you listed Oscar beat two of them. Oscar fukin schooled tito and although he did lose a split decision against Mosley the first fight he practically dominated Mosley in their second fight doubling his punches landed. Oscar got fuked by the judges in those two big fights.
And as far as Oscar vs. Floyd's concerned, again Oscar was leading after 8-9 rounds but faded and allowed Floyd to catch up and steal a split decision over him. This wasn't prime Oscar either, this was the aging Oscar with diminishing skills at the time they fought.
Why even bother FlexB ,the guy doesn't know shit about boxing.
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north american sports is about hype and money. oscar got the image and "name" that sold. that's about it.
Yea let's forget he's an Olympic gold medalist with a amateur career of 223 wins and 5 loses. 10 world titles in 6 different weight classes. Never ducked anyone and always took on the toughest challenges with a resume not many can match. And he was P4P rated #1 in 1997 above even prime Roy Jones Jr.
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You're the fukin idiot. Name one thing other than being a better aggressor that Shane is better than Oscar at?
BOXING, dipshit. That's why he won their fight. ::)
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BOXING, dipshit. That's why he won their fight. ::)
You're a retard. If you knew anything about boxing you'd know shane is a good brawler, not boxer. That's why he beat Oscar their first fight, because rather than BOXING, Oscar stood and traded with Mosley. That's called BRAWLING, ya fukin monkey.
In the second fight Oscar BOXED and pretty much dominated shane hitting him with twice the punches.
Wanna keep this up? I have no problem schooling your ass all day
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You're a retard. If you knew anything about boxing you'd know shane is a good brawler, not boxer. That's why he beat Oscar their first fight, because rather than BOXING, Oscar stood and traded with Mosley. That's called BRAWLING, ya fukin monkey.
In the second fight Oscar BOXED and pretty much dominated shane hitting him with twice the punches.
Wanna keep this up? I have no problem schooling your ass all day
how can u school him and oscar lost the 2nd fight? ???
again...oscar has the same pedigree as sugar ray leonard but failed miserably in the biggest fights of his career. chavez was over the hill and i'll give him credit for an aging pernell. since he is the golden boy n a money bag...he should have gotten the benefit of the doubt on the score cards but he didnt cause he lost n is an excellent example of the north american hype machine which is EXCELLENT for oscar's bank acct.
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Yea let's forget he's an Olympic gold medalist with a amateur career of 223 wins and 5 loses. 10 world titles in 6 different weight classes. Never ducked anyone and always took on the toughest challenges with a resume not many can match. And he was P4P rated #1 in 1997 above even prime Roy Jones Jr.
this reminds me of a funny Roy Jones moment back in the 90's, when somebody was interviewing Roy and mentioned De La Hoya.
Roy was like "WHO?" "Oscar?" he looked at the interviewer like he was on crack and said "I'd kick Dela Hoya a$$ and 4 or 5 motherf*ckers just like him!" LMAO
Prime Roy was unreal.
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how can u school him and oscar lost the 2nd fight? ???
again...oscar has the same pedigree as sugar ray leonard but failed miserably in the biggest fights of his career. chavez was over the hill and i'll give him credit for an aging pernell. since he is the golden boy n a money bag...he should have gotten the benefit of the doubt on the score cards but he didnt cause he lost n is an excellent example of the north american hype machine which is EXCELLENT for oscar's bank acct.
Oscar got fuked over in their second fight by the judges. Anyone that follows boxing and saw that fight know Oscar won. Even shane was shocked by the decision. Oscar landed over 100 more punches than Shane, he pretty much dominated him, it was ridiculous. It was the same with the Tito fight, Oscar was on the bad side of outrageous decisions on at least 2 occassions in his career. These being the main 2.
How can you say he failed miserably? 2 of those fights, he won in most peoples eyes. The other fights were close, all except his battle vs. pac. Oscar was never dominated by anyone. Even against Floyd Oscar was ahead on points up until the 9th round and lose a narrow slplit decision. Failing miserably? I don't think so.
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this reminds me of a funny Roy Jones moment back in the 90's, when somebody was interviewing Roy and mentioned De La Hoya.
Roy was like "WHO?" "Oscar?" he looked at the interviewer like he was on crack and said "I'd kick Dela Hoya a$$ and 4 or 5 motherf*ckers just like him!" LMAO
Prime Roy was unreal.
What's even funnier was Oscar was making more money fighting warm-up fights vs. mediocre opponents than Roy was fighting championship fights vs. contenders. I like Roy but it's true lol
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Oscar got fuked over in their second fight by the judges. Anyone that follows boxing and saw that fight know Oscar won. Even shane was shocked by the decision. Oscar landed over 100 more punches than Shane, he pretty much dominated him, it was ridiculous.
hahaha
you're an idiot
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hahaha
you're an idiot
Nice counter moron. When all else fails, just drop some name calling :D
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What's even funnier was Oscar was making more money fighting warm-up fights vs. mediocre opponents than Roy was fighting championship fights vs. contenders. I like Roy but it's true lol
Well there you have it. Some base greatness off materials and $$$. I base it off the naked eye (what I see...skillset). Money doesn't define your greatness as a boxer imo. Ray Robinson made tons less than both these fighters we are mentioning, so did ray leonard, hearns, hagler, duran, louis, marciano....yet they are still greats in my book.
Oscar was more manufactured product sort of like sugar ray where roy was home grown, no publicity, and to be honest roy made a good amount of $$$ under that HBO contract where he only had to fight his mandatory challengers whom later on became champions themselves...they just couldn't beat Roy.
Meanwhile, as you stated, delahoya was fighting warm ups. ;)
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Well there you have it. Some base greatness off materials and $$$. I base it off the naked eye (what I see...skillset). Money doesn't define your greatness as a boxer imo. Ray Robinson made tons less than both these fighters we are mentioning, so did ray leonard, hearns, hagler, duran, louis, marciano....yet they are still greats in my book.
Oscar was more manufactured product sort of like sugar ray where roy was home grown, no publicity, and to be honest roy made a good amount of $$$ under that HBO contract where he only had to fight his mandatory challengers whom later on became champions themselves...they just couldn't beat Roy.
Meanwhile, as you stated, delahoya was fighting warm ups. ;)
Oscar accomplished just as much as Roy did. He wasn't as dominant as long as Roy was but then again Roy was being fed B fighters for years. Oscar fought tougher opposition than Roy did. I like both fighters but you gotta be kidding if you think Oscar was manufactured. he fought his way to the top amatuer and professionally
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good interview. i'll take a bet shane will be ready n prepared at least
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Oscar accomplished just as much as Roy did. He wasn't as dominant as long as Roy was but then again Roy was being fed B fighters for years. Oscar fought tougher opposition than Roy did. I like both fighters but you gotta be kidding if you think Oscar was manufactured. he fought his way to the top amatuer and professionally
Now roy was being fed B fighters? How about he beat the top contenders at light heavy and pretty much cleaned out middle weight before he moved up to light heavy (where he was actually the smaller guy fighting larger guys the rest of his career)
And you can't be blind enough to see oscar wasn't catered too. I loved oscar until after the whitaker fight..that was complete BS...fight was a draw at WORST for whitaker. The scores were ATROCIOUSLY in oscars favor as if pernell didn't even show up when it was obvious he was made a fool of during that fight.not to mention he tasted the floor and that BS pt deduction my a$$.
THEN after the fight on HBO the clown when on to say there was no need for a rematch? Are you kidding me? LMAO....lost all respect for his catered to ass under Arum.
Let's not start on the quartey fight. Again Draw at worst, but check the scores. It's like Ike didn't even fight. Later felix sturm when oscar was trying to make the fight with bernard happen.....how can you not see this?
Fact is....Oscar couldn't hold a candle to Roy. And roy said he'd move down to 160 and tap that a$$ mid 90's on HBO...HBO knew oscar would be OVER if it happened...just like they knew Tito would get destroyed when he got cocky and mentioned Roy....never happened Roy would have ruined him....and you know it.
Meanwhile jones pretty much made it clear he wasn't losing a round b/c of how he was robbed in Seoul because he knew judges sway votes like they did for oscar which is why the trinidad loss to his was poetic justice.
The only guy Roy was even given a hard time about was Darius M. The euro fighter that didn't want to come over. He later got his a$$ took to the wire by Richard Hall and beaten by Julio Gonzalez.....both of whom were DESTROYED when they fought Roy and that's the point i'm trying to make about roy....the was light years ahead of good fighters whom later became champ.
I know it's hard but Roy was the truth in his prime. Oscar was a b*tch who ran from winky wright and vernon forrest...funny how shane fought them when he won the belt but oscar didn't want to get within 10 feet of them.
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Look at this clown Flex....cmon man. he can't deny this. He knew the girl and they paid her off.
Let's bury the hatchet. Oscar is a clown.
(http://bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/oscar-1.jpg)
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Now roy was being fed B fighters? How about he beat the top contenders at light heavy and pretty much cleaned out middle weight before he moved up to light heavy (where he was actually the smaller guy fighting larger guys the rest of his career)
And you can't be blind enough to see oscar wasn't catered too. I loved oscar until after the whitaker fight..that was complete BS...fight was a draw at WORST for whitaker. The scores were ATROCIOUSLY in oscars favor as if pernell didn't even show up when it was obvious he was made a fool of during that fight.not to mention he tasted the floor and that BS pt deduction my a$$.
THEN after the fight on HBO the clown when on to say there was no need for a rematch? Are you kidding me? LMAO....lost all respect for his catered to ass under Arum.
Let's not start on the quartey fight. Again Draw at worst, but check the scores. It's like Ike didn't even fight. Later felix sturm when oscar was trying to make the fight with bernard happen.....how can you not see this?
Fact is....Oscar couldn't hold a candle to Roy. And roy said he'd move down to 160 and tap that a$$ mid 90's on HBO...HBO knew oscar would be OVER if it happened...just like they knew Tito would get destroyed when he got cocky and mentioned Roy....never happened Roy would have ruined him....and you know it.
Meanwhile jones pretty much made it clear he wasn't losing a round b/c of how he was robbed in Seoul because he knew judges sway votes like they did for oscar which is why the trinidad loss to his was poetic justice.
The only guy Roy was even given a hard time about was Darius M. The euro fighter that didn't want to come over. He later got his a$$ took to the wire by Richard Hall and beaten by Julio Gonzalez.....both of whom were DESTROYED when they fought Roy and that's the point i'm trying to make about roy....the was light years ahead of good fighters whom later became champ.
I know it's hard but Roy was the truth in his prime. Oscar was a b*tch who ran from winky wright and vernon forrest...funny how shane fought them when he won the belt but oscar didn't want to get within 10 feet of them.
First of all, Pernell did FUK ALL in that fight but dance around and act like a fuking clown. He had no offense! He would throw one jab at a time and back away from Oscar. Pernell beat himself in that fight. Oscars face was unscratched because pernell wasn't hitting him, yet if you recall, Pernell's eye was half shut.
(http://www.sportsdds.com/images/0501021P_DeLa_Hoya_v_Whitaker.jpg)
check the eye :D
(http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/thumb/7/76/WhitakerDLH.jpg/300px-WhitakerDLH.jpg)
And as for Quartey! WTF, Oscar put Quartey as his ass TWICE to Quartey putting Oscar on his ass once, and Oscar landed MORE PUNCHES. Not a hard one to figure out. Close fight but Oscar beat his ass in round 12 and had quartey lying against the ropes to keep his ass up from falling again. I had Oscar winning narrow one by one point but Oscar stole that show without a doubt.
Are you retarded? Oscar also fought Trinidad who shane never went near. But lets not forget Vernon whipped Mosley twice and then Mayorga whipped Vernon twice, and then Oscar KO'd Mayorga in 6 rounds. But thats' neither here or there. Oscar fought both Vargas and Mayorga when they were legitment threats and Mosley fought them years later when they were basically jokes. And had tough times with them lol
yes, roy is the better fighter, but his resume isn't any better by any means. He was known for fighting plumbers and cable guys, he simply didn't have good competition for the majority of a decade. Montell Griffen was probably his toughest opponent until Ruiz at heavyweight and that's not saying a lot.
In '97 Oscar was rated above Roy P4P and both were in their primes. Quit trying to act like Oscar wasn't a monster in his prime. Please
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Look at this clown Flex....cmon man. he can't deny this. He knew the girl and they paid her off.
Let's bury the hatchet. Oscar is a clown.
(http://bittenandbound.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/oscar-1.jpg)
You actually believe those are real? LOL
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First of all, Pernell did FUK ALL in that fight but dance around and act like a fuking clown. He had no offense! He would throw one jab at a time and back away from Oscar. Pernell beat himself in that fight. Oscars face was unscratched because pernell wasn't hitting him, yet if you recall, Pernell's eye was half shut.
(http://www.sportsdds.com/images/0501021P_DeLa_Hoya_v_Whitaker.jpg)
check the eye :D
(http://static.boxrec.com/wiki/thumb/7/76/WhitakerDLH.jpg/300px-WhitakerDLH.jpg)
And as for Quartey! WTF, Oscar put Quartey as his ass TWICE to Quartey putting Oscar on his ass once, and Oscar landed MORE PUNCHES. Not a hard one to figure out. Close fight but Oscar beat his ass in round 12 and had quartey lying against the ropes to keep his ass up from falling again. I had Oscar winning narrow one by one point but Oscar stole that show without a doubt.
Are you retarded? Oscar also fought Trinidad who shane never went near. But lets not forget Vernon whipped Mosley twice and then Mayorga whipped Vernon twice, and then Oscar KO'd Mayorga in 6 rounds. But thats' neither here or there. Oscar fought both Vargas and Mayorga when they were legitment threats and Mosley fought them years later when they were basically jokes. And had tough times with them lol
yes, roy is the better fighter, but his resume isn't any better by any means. He was known for fighting plumbers and cable guys, he simply didn't have good competition for the majority of a decade. Montell Griffen was probably his toughest opponent until Ruiz at heavyweight and that's not saying a lot.
In '97 Oscar was rated above Roy P4P and both were in their primes. Quit trying to act like Oscar wasn't a monster in his prime. Please
for one oscar ducked vernon and winky.....their styles were wrong from OSCAR period..so why are you bringing up what other fighters did against them to make a point? Huge no no.
as for quartey...you act like that 12rd was a blowout when it wasn't, ike was there throwing shots on the ropes...and you forget...the scores...that's my point...oscar could have lost the 12th and still won by a margin according to the score cards...why is that? Ike beat the living sh*t out of oscar that night with a jab...same as sturm did.
whitaker made oscar look like a fool in there. If you didn't know whitaker was a defensive master then you don't know boxing and are just talking out your a$$ now. The point of boxing is to "hit" and "not get hit" ...oscar got put on his ass that night and those gay last second flurries didn't mean sh*t. To say he felt there was no reason for an upset was retarted.
Finally.....for you to say montell griffin was Roy's toughest opponent until ruiz is absolutely insane b/c you aren't being realistic at all now.
I bet you are the same type that gives no credit to mayweather for beating the exact same guys that pac man beat later, only difference is when pacman beats them you are impressed by it for some odd reason.
Bottom line Roy vs Oscar , prime on prime = Roy 1 RD KO ;D
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You actually believe those are real? LOL
Actually it is funny. He knew the girl (confirmed you can't deny it) and when she posted the pics of him he and his team handled it exactly like a guilty person would. Threats and $$$ to gag the situation....she changed her story about how they got on the net from her camera....she NEVER said they were not real.
Let me refresh your memory. The very next DAY these pics went up....they pretty much tried the best they could to stop the sources.
If they are doctored and not real....why even bother...oscar was retired remember...nobody should care right?
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/rush_molloy/2007/09/24/2007-09-24_model_changes_tune_on_oscar_de_la_hoya_d.html
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for one oscar ducked vernon and winky.....their styles were wrong from OSCAR period..so why are you bringing up what other fighters did against them to make a point? Huge no no.
as for quartey...you act like that 12rd was a blowout when it wasn't, ike was there throwing shots on the ropes...and you forget...the scores...that's my point...oscar could have lost the 12th and still won by a margin according to the score cards...why is that? Ike beat the living sh*t out of oscar that night with a jab...same as sturm did.
whitaker made oscar look like a fool in there. If you didn't know whitaker was a defensive master then you don't know boxing and are just talking out your a$$ now. The point of boxing is to "hit" and "not get hit" ...oscar got put on his ass that night and those gay last second flurries didn't mean sh*t. To say he felt there was no reason for an upset was retarted.
Finally.....for you to say montell griffin was Roy's toughest opponent until ruiz is absolutely insane b/c you aren't being realistic at all now.
I bet you are the same type that gives no credit to mayweather for beating the exact same guys that pac man beat later, only difference is when pacman beats them you are impressed by it for some odd reason.
Bottom line Roy vs Oscar , prime on prime = Roy 1 RD KO ;D
Oscar always fought the best and is known well in boxing circles for doing so, and you wanna talk about the 2 guys he didn't face? Come on. Roy never gave Hopkins a rematch and many argue Roy was ducking him. Roy wouldn't fly to fight Darius and many thought he was ducking him also since this guy was supposed to be his best match up. See, anyone can look at a couple guys they should've fought but didn't.
Ike beat the shit out of Oscar?? wtf are you smoking? Up to the knockdowns in the midrounds Oscar was winning the fight but the momentum changed once Ike floored Oscar with that flash knockdown, after Oscar has just dropped him. The rest was touch and go for a couple rounds with Ike slighly getting the better of it but Oscar was still able to win a couple rounds. It was a boxing match, not a war, neither man was hurt by a single punch, other than the one that dropped both of them. So you saying OScar was getting murdered is fuked up. The only murder was the 2 minutes Oscar put the beats to Quartey in the 12th round. LOL the ref almost stepped in to save Quartey when he was being held up by the ropes. That was almost a 10-7 round.
Yea, the art is to HIT and not get hit. problem is Pernell wasn't HITTING oscar at all. The knockdown was a slip and Oscar put his glove on the canvas to catch his balance, if you saw the fight you'd know this wasn't a true knockdown by any means. Oscar wasn't rocked by a punch or hurt in the least
As for Mayweather you gotta be kidding. I give all credit to him and he'll make Pac look like fool if they ever meet up.
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Actually it is funny. He knew the girl (confirmed you can't deny it) and when she posted the pics of him he and his team handled it exactly like a guilty person would. Threats and $$$ to gag the situation....she changed her story about how they got on the net from her camera....she NEVER said they were not real.
Let me refresh your memory. The very next DAY these pics went up....they pretty much tried the best they could to stop the sources.
If they are doctored and not real....why even bother...oscar was retired remember...nobody should care right?
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/rush_molloy/2007/09/24/2007-09-24_model_changes_tune_on_oscar_de_la_hoya_d.html
The girl was all over the place with the story and was pegged as a liar -- big surprise there. Apparently they were proven to be fake and doctored. I know people that do that kinda shit all day long. Anyway, wtf would someone in oscar's status let someone take pictures of him LIKE THAT? I mean common sense here guy
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Oscar always fought the best and is known well in boxing circles for doing so, and you wanna talk about the 2 guys he didn't face? Come on. Roy never gave Hopkins a rematch and many argue Roy was ducking him. Roy wouldn't fly to fight Darius and many thought he was ducking him also since this guy was supposed to be his best match up. See, anyone can look at a couple guys they should've fought but didn't.
Ike beat the shit out of Oscar?? wtf are you smoking? Up to the knockdowns in the midrounds Oscar was winning the fight but the momentum changed once Ike floored Oscar with that flash knockdown, after Oscar has just dropped him. The rest was touch and go for a couple rounds with Ike slighly getting the better of it but Oscar was still able to win a couple rounds. It was a boxing match, not a war, neither man was hurt by a single punch, other than the one that dropped both of them. So you saying OScar was getting murdered is fuked up. The only murder was the 2 minutes Oscar put the beats to Quartey in the 12th round. LOL the ref almost stepped in to save Quartey when he was being held up by the ropes. That was almost a 10-7 round.
Yea, the art is to HIT and not get hit. problem is Pernell wasn't HITTING oscar at all. The knockdown was a slip and Oscar put his glove on the canvas to catch his balance, if you saw the fight you'd know this wasn't a true knockdown by any means. Oscar wasn't rocked by a punch or hurt in the least
As for Mayweather you gotta be kidding. I give all credit to him and he'll make Pac look like fool if they ever meet up.
Glad you brought up darius since that is the ONLY guy that was ever mentioned that roy "ducked" ....Roy was the undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world yet he has to travel over seas to fight a contender? When has this ever been requested in boxing history? The undisputed champion of the world has to travel thousands of miles to fight on another guys soil because the contender doesn't want to travel here to be undisputed champion?
Even Ray Charles can see the bullsh*t in this. ....and the Bernard/Roy debate years back was settled and aired when bernard ran his mouth on a radio station in houston and roy called in to the radio station while he was there and said exactly why that fight never happened back then and bernard didn't rebut roy at all b/c it was indeed fact.
To enlighten you Roy and Bernard know each other very well. (this is their words) Roy told Bernard to clean out the middle weight and they would do a mega fight (because Bernard had no name at the time , and roy said if he beat him it's over for his career basically)...bernard agreed that roy did say this on the air. Bernard was under Don King at the time and he was getting raked to the coals not getting any money for his fights basically as he was trying to make a name (like pac man with arum)
Roy said bernard wanted 60/40 split simply because he was not making anything under don king. Now once again...why would the undisputed champion take 40% just because you getting murdered by Don King...and he beat him already? That is why the fight never happened years ago and that is the truth, on air..Here is the link...scroll to the bottom....http://www.975theticket.com/TicketOnline/Podcasts/CalvinMurphyPodcasts2/tabid/807/Default.aspx (http://www.975theticket.com/TicketOnline/Podcasts/CalvinMurphyPodcasts2/tabid/807/Default.aspx)
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The girl was all over the place with the story and was pegged as a liar -- big surprise there. Apparently they were proven to be fake and doctored. I know people that do that kinda shit all day long. Anyway, wtf would someone in oscar's status let someone take pictures of him LIKE THAT? I mean common sense here guy
The same guy who was with her period point blank zonked out his mind(fact).
Don't act like fighters are not notorious drinkers, gamblers, druggers..etc. Most of them are. If you need a "golden boy" go no further than the squeaky clean image ray leonard..mr coke head himself (admittedly) who was out there around town doing his thing (while married)
Lose the golden image you have for oscar...he is human and likes fish net stockings.
REALITY here guy. ;)
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Flex I must say, you are a man of conviction and will not be wavered. You are alright in my book man! ;)
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Glad you brought up darius since that is the ONLY guy that was ever mentioned that roy "ducked" ....Roy was the undisputed light heavyweight champion of the world yet he has to travel over seas to fight a contender? When has this ever been requested in boxing history? The undisputed champion of the world has to travel thousands of miles to fight on another guys soil because the contender doesn't want to travel here to be undisputed champion?
Even Ray Charles can see the bullsh*t in this. ....and the Bernard/Roy debate years back was settled and aired when bernard ran his mouth on a radio station in houston and roy called in to the radio station while he was there and said exactly why that fight never happened back then and bernard didn't rebut roy at all b/c it was indeed fact.
To enlighten you Roy and Bernard know each other very well. (this is their words) Roy told Bernard to clean out the middle weight and they would do a mega fight (because Bernard had no name at the time , and roy said if he beat him it's over for his career basically)...bernard agreed that roy did say this on the air. Bernard was under Don King at the time and he was getting raked to the coals not getting any money for his fights basically as he was trying to make a name (like pac man with arum)
Roy said bernard wanted 60/40 split simply because he was not making anything under don king. Now once again...why would the undisputed champion take 40% just because you getting murdered by Don King...and he beat him already? That is why the fight never happened years ago and that is the truth, on air..Here is the link...scroll to the bottom....http://www.975theticket.com/TicketOnline/Podcasts/CalvinMurphyPodcasts2/tabid/807/Default.aspx (http://www.975theticket.com/TicketOnline/Podcasts/CalvinMurphyPodcasts2/tabid/807/Default.aspx)
Believe me, I like Roy, he's one of my favs so i won't argue. Of course he would've beaten Oscar at a catch weight. And I lost a lot of respect for Hops after that brutal rematch for his acting shit
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soon!
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soon!
Can't wait! 8)
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I can't wait till tonight
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I can't wait till tonight
i hope mosely cleans his fucking clock.
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i hope mosely cleans his fucking clock.
I do to bro...I hope he's got the speed to do it...
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consensus is FMW controls fight early with mosley applying pressure. 2nd half is mosley game if he has gas left n floyd slows down. not enough power from fmw and he doesnt punch down on mosley like forest. got mixed feelings on this one. would like to see floyd vs pac but pac is too small, right up fmw's alley so it wont be the fight people think it will be.
i'd prefer if fmw wins to him against berto w/another 2 fights under his belt or williams. pretty much know mosley will fight any of them. mosley n pac would be offensive delight but roach said he isnt putting pac in with a 160 mosley at the ball, said he just too big.
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Mosley's gonna make a fight of it but at this stage he's not as fast as he once was. A lot of writers are actually saying shane is faster which I don't agree. Mayweather will use his footwork to keep Mosley at bay and will have success for the majority of the rounds. He'll counter and frustrate Mosley but Mosley's best chances will come when he goes balls in and goes right after Mayweather which you'll see him do tonight and have some success with. In the end though, Mayweather wins 8 rounds to 4.
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son fights like dad minus less aggression but better shoulder roll defense. maybe mosley n richardson should checked this out. assault the ribs n loop the right over the top. oscar was pretty successful looping the right on jr. seems to catch straight rights with the shoulder.
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i hope mosely cleans his fucking clock.
I really hope so too. Maybe that will shut him up... So much garbage comes out of this guys mouth. I just want him to get destroyed then hear what he has to say after....
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Oscar got fuked over in their second fight by the judges. Anyone that follows boxing and saw that fight know Oscar won. Even shane was shocked by the decision. Oscar landed over 100 more punches than Shane, he pretty much dominated him, it was ridiculous. It was the same with the Tito fight, Oscar was on the bad side of outrageous decisions on at least 2 occassions in his career. These being the main 2.
How can you say he failed miserably? 2 of those fights, he won in most peoples eyes. The other fights were close, all except his battle vs. pac. Oscar was never dominated by anyone. Even against Floyd Oscar was ahead on points up until the 9th round and lose a narrow slplit decision. Failing miserably? I don't think so.
ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THEIR BOXING KNOWS THAT THE FLOYD V OSCAR FIGHT WAS NOT A CLOSE FIGHT....GET REAL
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ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THEIR BOXING KNOWS THAT THE FLOYD V OSCAR FIGHT WAS NOT A CLOSE FIGHT....GET REAL
Meanwhile Oscar was ahead on the scorecards until the 8-9th round. lol Even Emmuanel Stewart said if Floyd doesn't pick it up he's going to lose the fight ::)
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ANYONE WHO ACTUALLY KNOWS THEIR BOXING KNOWS THAT THE FLOYD V OSCAR FIGHT WAS NOT A CLOSE FIGHT....GET REAL
Yes..."Flexb" is a moron.
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Fraud is gonna run and shoulder roll all night long. He throws about 12 punches a round if his opponent has a pulse. Are we forgetting about the Jose Luis Castillo fight that Fraud lost. Of course not on the score cards with corrupt ass boxing. The outcry was so bad that he had to rematch him (which he didnt want) What great fighter after beating the likes of a Gatti would start crying cause he won.lol
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Yes..."Flexb" is a moron.
that's a big lol comin' from you ::)
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When is the fight? Anybody got a stream?
ANYONE?
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ANYONE?
Undercards starting now. Should be starting around 10:30 EST
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ANYONE?
Channelsurfing.net
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1st undercard fight ended in 1 round with 3 knockdowns
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I would want Mosely to win but its going to be FMW with the decision ...going the distance, no knockdowns.. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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I would want Mosely to win but its going to be FMW with the decision ...going the distance, no knockdowns.. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
IF anyone is going down it's Mayweather. Mosley has a granite chin and only been knocked down once by Vernon Forrest about 8 years ago. However I highly doubt Mayweather is getting caught and agree he will win by UD. Mosley has a chance though..
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IF anyone is going down it's Mayweather. Mosley has a granite chin and only been knocked down once by Vernon Forrest about 8 years ago. However I highly doubt Mayweather is getting caught and agree he will win by UD. Mosley has a chance though..
I agree. Mosley won't go down. Even vs Vernon he took a nice head butt before that knockdown..didn't even get a second to recover from it actually. Shane took a nice beating and finished the fight still.
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I agree. Mosley won't go down. Even vs Vernon he took a nice head butt before that knockdown..didn't even get a second to recover from it actually. Shane took a nice beating and finished the fight still.
True, I forgot about that headbutt
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Daaamn, Canelo's first true test ,almost got ko in the first round
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Daaamn, Canelo's first true test ,almost got ko in the first round
that kids gonna be great...
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10 min away ;D
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its starting
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mayweatehr is stalling
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http://atdhe.net/16166/watch-floyd-mayweather-vs-shane-mosley
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huge 2nd round for mosley, actually rocked Mayweather twice. Mayweather though came back to take round 3 and looking to be getting into his groove. 2-1 mayweather
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Mayweather startin to pick shane off. 3-1 PBF
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Mayweather totally in his comfort zone. Shane not landing much at all now. 5-1 PBF
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Shane got rocked that round, startin to look old. PBF 6-1
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Getting heated! both fighter talkin shit while fighting. Mayweather owning shane now 7-1
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Getting heated! both fighter talkin shit while fighting. Mayweather owning shane now 7-1
Like I said before a warm-up to the Pac-man fight...
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Shane getting desperate now. 8-1 PBF
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10-1 PBF, what a blow out.
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10-1 PBF, what a blow out.
Did you really think Mosley would offer a good fight...??
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Did you really think Mosley would offer a good fight...??
Duh, read my prior posts LOL
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Mosley is 10 years past his prime , Mosley will keep it competitive for the first 5 rounds but will begin to fade down the stretch ,Mayweather wins an easy UD or late TKO stoppage.
Good call ;)
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First of all, Oscar is a better boxer than Shane and a better tactician. He's smarter than Shane. Shane is better in coming forward than oscar and all out brawling, but Floyd won't be brawling and Floyds defense is just too good. Shane will get picked apart with counters a lot worse than Oscar did.
Floyd's whole game is allowing his opponent to get their shots off first so not sure what your point is there saying Shane will get his shots off first. That plays right into Floyd's strategy.
If shane was a better boxer, and not just a come forward type of fighter that doesn't adapt well, then he'd have a better chance.
Mosley will have his moments, don't get me wrong, but at this stage in their careers Floyd's just too quick and too ring savvy for this older version of Shane.
;D Only thing I made a mistake with is Floyd actually coming forward more and going toe to toe a bit
Bang on about the Oscar and Mosley comparison in this fight
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props to mayweather
fought like a man
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floyd ate that right hand like a man in the second round.
pac man dies if he fights floyd.....no way he makes it past 6 rounds vs floyd as i've said before...floyd destroys pac man..but if the fans need to see it then so be it.
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pac man dies if he fights floyd.....no way he makes it past 6 rounds vs floyd as i've said before...floyd destroys pac man..but if the fans need to see it then so be it.
I think you are wrong .
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If I were a boxing fan I would be ashamed at what it has become. Biased announcing. Larry Merchant cutting Mosley off in his post fight.
This is what boxing has become?
Announcers claiming Mayweather wasn't hurt when his knee buckled in round two ::)
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I actually think Floyd didn't look as crisp as usual. Maybe that's just because he was fighting another fast fighter though and was fighting another legend. I was surprised to see Mayweather get rocked like that twice in the round, although i don't think the first shot did much damage and looked worse than it was. Then again, like I said, it's Shane fukin Mosley lol The guy is an ATG and I think would've given PBF hell if this were 10 years ago and probably KO'd his ass.
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All I have to say is, everyone here who hates Mayweather the man, at least respect Mayweather the fighter. Tonights performance was fucking awesome.
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floyd ate that right hand like a man in the second round.
pac man dies if he fights floyd.....no way he makes it past 6 rounds vs floyd as i've said before...floyd destroys pac man..but if the fans need to see it then so be it.
He dies...Are you serious??? Come on now...Pac-man has mad endurance and power throughout round 12...You have to be a serious Mayweather guy to think that Pac-man won't give him a great fight...Mayweather may be more elusive, but Pac-man throws 20+ power shots a round....
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If I were a boxing fan I would be ashamed at what it has become. Biased announcing. Larry Merchant cutting Mosley off in his post fight.
This is what boxing has become?
If Shane's corner would have had his hands taped earlier it wouldn't have been an issue :D
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I think you are wrong .
Just my opinion basically. Means nothing to nobody but me. ;)
I do know for a fact styles make fights...floyd style is way wrong for manny. If the fight happens, the world will see this and it will be embarrassing for manny and his camp because he won't make it past six rounds
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He dies...Are you serious??? Come on now...Pac-man has mad endurance and power throughout round 12...You have to be a serious Mayweather guy to think that Pac-man won't give him a great fight...Mayweather may be more elusive, but Pac-man throws 20+ power shots a round....
Pacman gets hit and dropped by PBF, and early. Pac doesn't have the power mosley does, and his pure offense while giving him opportunities to land, will give more chances for Floyd to counter him and KO him.
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He dies...Are you serious??? Come on now...Pac-man has mad endurance and power throughout round 12...You have to be a serious Mayweather guy to think that Pac-man won't give him a great fight...Mayweather may be more elusive, but Pac-man throws 20+ power shots a round....
Exactly ,Pacquiao is in his prime right now but I still think that PBF would win a very close decision .
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He dies...Are you serious??? Come on now...Pac-man has mad endurance and power throughout round 12...You have to be a serious Mayweather guy to think that Pac-man won't give him a great fight...Mayweather may be more elusive, but Pac-man throws 20+ power shots a round....
I'm not a guy of any fighter...I just happen to know boxing. manny can throw all he wants...he won't hit jack sh*t.
and if you think manny can crack floyd harder than shane laid into his ass in the second round you are insane.
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Exactly ,Pacquiao is in his prime right now but I still think that PBF would win a very close decision .
I agree, only due to Floyd pulling offensive, strong and fast boxers close in causing them to committ penalties; like rabbit punches and what not... Call me a liar if you want to, but if you study tapes Floyd is notorious for this when he gets in a bit of trouble...
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I'm not a guy of any fighter...I just happen to know boxing. manny can throw all he wants...he won't hit jack sh*t.
and if you think manny can crack floyd harder than shane laid into his ass in the second round you are insane.
I know you know your boxing but you have to admit you were wrong tonight.
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I'm not a guy of any fighter...I just happen to know boxing. manny can throw all he wants...he won't hit jack sh*t.
and if you think manny can crack floyd harder than shane laid into his ass in the second round you are insane.
And to add to that, Pac doesn't have the chin Mosley has and PBF hurt Shane a few times, and I think if he had of gone after him could've knocked him out.
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And to add to that, Pac doesn't have the chin Mosley has and PBF hurt Shane a few times, and I think if he had of gone after him could've knocked him out.
No fucking way PBF will Ko Manny .
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No fucking way PBF will Ko Manny .
haha watch :38 seconds of this fight. Marquez ain't got shit on PBF and look what he did
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And to add to that, Pac doesn't have the chin Mosley has and PBF hurt Shane a few times, and I think if he had of gone after him could've knocked him out.
This is what is funny about this whole debate; Mosley is past his prime..................P ac-man isn't
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I know you know your boxing but you have to admit you were wrong tonight.
what exactly was I wrong about? This was my call for the fight days prior.
If I were a betting man I would say Floyd. Boxing fan..Floyd. Analysis of both styles... Floyd.
....I HOPE shane "finds" floyd at least once in this fight (put him on his seat or hurts him).
If it happens this fight will do a 180 degree turn imo and could go down in history.
I already know floyd will come out slow as normal. Shane needs to press early and bank the early rds (he can do this vs floyd)
floyd does his work mid to finish line. Shane will not fold down the stretch imo. This is why I say if he can find floyd early, bank some rds + have a knockdown...this could turn into a war because floyd will do his best to bank the late rds thus this could turn into a nice technical brawl.
if none of the above happens, floyd will coast to a decision using the cotto strategy, jab and turn shane, allow him to stalk and just counter off him , run your combo and turn him like cotto did only floyd won't get tired like cotto did down the stretch.
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This is what is funny about this whole debate; Mosley is past his prime..................P ac-man isn't
Past his prime doesn't mean his chin is weaker. Mosley has stood the test vs. everyone except Vernon. Oscar, Cotto, Marg, Mayorga, nobody had Mosley stunned like PBF did several times in this fight. Never seen Mosley's corner talking about throwin in the towel before.
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what exactly was I wrong about? This was my call for the fight days prior.
''Shane will not fold down the stretch imo''
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And to add to that, Pac doesn't have the chin Mosley has and PBF hurt Shane a few times, and I think if he had of gone after him could've knocked him out.
I know flex. Like I said...if they need to see it..then so be it.
Manny will not fight floyd period point blank. I'm not even going to bring up the fact they didn't even want to fight shane because "he was too good" - Freddie Roach
I'll leave that one alone. lol
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Past his prime doesn't mean his chin is weaker. \
Yes it does , fatigue make your chin weaker.
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Past his prime doesn't mean his chin is weaker. Mosley has stood the test vs. everyone except Vernon. Oscar, Cotto, Marg, Mayorga, nobody had Mosley stunned like PBF did several times in this fight. Never seen Mosley's corner talking about throwin in the towel before.
Please compare other boxers that have stood up to the best of the best then later on in their careers have had weaken chins....Not saying Mosley in his prime could have beaten Floyd, but it would have been a better fight than the one tonight...
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Mind you this was early Pac but still, that chin has been busted before and these guys are no legends
And this just to underline
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''Shane will not fold down the stretch imo''
I ran a complete best case scenario for shane there.
And how did he fold exactly? did he quit? Nope....floyd was too much for him just like he'll be WAY too much for manny.
but again....it's what "fans want to see" ;)
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Yes it does , fatigue make your chin weaker.
No, fatigue makes your legs go. Shane was getting stunned after 3-4 rounds while he still had his stamina and energy
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Please compare other boxers that have stood up to the best of the best then later on in their careers have had weaken chins....Not saying Mosley in his prime could have beaten Floyd, but it would have been a better fight than the one tonight...
I think Mosley 10 years ago beats Floyd. He was fast and furious as fuk back then
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I ran a complete best case scenario for shane there.
And how did he fold exactly? did he quit? Nope....floyd was too much for him just like he'll be WAY too much for manny.
but again....it's what "fans want to see" ;)
Win/lose I would like to see the fight.... How would the world react if Pac-man catches Floyd with a combo of power punches and sends him to the floor???
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I like Mosley a lot. It's tough to see him like that and I wonder if he retires now or just takes a farewell fight. I think he may end up like Evander though because he's so damn competitive. Fukin hope not
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Win/lose I would like to see the fight.... How would the world react if Pac-man catches Floyd with a combo of power punches and sends him to the floor???
it would go down in history and manny would be the man pretty much. Seriously. I'd crown him indeed.
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Win/lose I would like to see the fight.... How would the world react if Pac-man catches Floyd with a combo of power punches and sends him to the floor???
That could happen, but if Mosley couldn't do it I don't see Pac doing it. Pac is great with volume punching, turning it up while his opponent slows down. PBF doesn't slow down though really, his conditioning is excellent
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it would go down in history and manny would be the man pretty much. Seriously. I'd crown him indeed.
You can't deny that you would like to see them fight....
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I like Mosley a lot. It's tough to see him like that and I wonder if he retires now or just takes a farewell fight. I think he may end up like Evander though because he's so damn competitive. Fukin hope not
It was very hard for me to see shane like that, but I understand the confusing against that style. Spar with a golden gloves guy just like that and it's extremely frustrating knowing you are bigger stronger and just as fast but you cannot find them.
very frustrating style to fight against.
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You can't deny that you would like to see them fight....
I actually wanted to see this fight more than the pac fight simply because I knew shane has the chin to stand up to floyd high % shots and also shane has/had the power to KO floyd.
floyd took the right hands in the second round and got back on track.
I'd like to see floyd cream manny...yes..but it's expected. No element of surprise because floyd would walk through him imo...if you think cotto and clottey was able to jab manny AT WILL WITH EASE.....floyd would not only jab him to death but pot shot him to hell
that fight gets stopped in 6 rounds
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...if you think cotto and clottey was able to jab manny AT WILL WITH EASE.....
???
Are you serious man ?
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Are you serious man ?
yeah....he is serious douche.
stuff below isnt for you...just douche
fmw closed mosley out. boy...thought mosley would lose but rock the hell of out fmw in the process.
fmw will f##k manny big time. under size fighters dont work well against this guy, right up his alley. i could give a f##k about manny's punch output. his arms are too short when fmw roll his shoulder on him. you need height and reach to loop the right over on him plus pac isnt a big time body puncher like an early cotto to make fmw square up to protect his ribs.
if he is calling it a day after the mega check he is getting for the manny fight..then he retires undefeated.
i guess it would be no reason for him to take on willaims r berto, r a pime 160 guy like martinez at a catch weight of 154. they arent draws...as he would say.
anyway...give fmw some credit. i guess all you can say is what if he was in an era of leonard n hearns like his dad. how could he hold up?
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hey where can I download this super fight
there's no torrents, won't use Kazaa or DC because they are gay as hell... so...
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yeah....he is serious douche.
fmw closed mosley out. boy...thought mosley would lose but rock the hell of out fmw in the process.
Hahaaa,n i g g a pleeease
G-thong quotes ;D:
'' Mosley will land power shots late and force FMW to fight''
''12 and FMW on a split''
''alot of crack in the thread if people think mosley cant bring a fight to a counter-puncher better than Oscar''
;D ;D ;D''FMW controls fight early 2nd half is mosley game''
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Hahaaa,n i g g a pleeease
G-thong quotes ;D:
'' Mosley will land power shots late and force FMW to fight''
''12 and FMW on a split''
''alot of crack in the thread if people think mosley cant bring a fight to a counter-puncher better than Oscar''
;D ;D ;D''FMW controls fight early 2nd half is mosley game''
at least i didnt place a bet on it like some of these clowns.
douche bag...Spaniard ;D
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douche bag...Spaniard ;D
I'm not Spaniard ;D
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I'm not Spaniard ;D
did u not say Espaņol and Italia? are you in Italy or Spain, or duel citizenship, or Slate's other gimmick?
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floyd doesnt want manny .... hahhahahah plain as day
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hey where can I download this super fight
there's no torrents, won't use Kazaa or DC because they are gay as hell... so...
here you go
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8EUUMWMW
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I laughed when I seen this fight was made...And I laughed when I read the comments on this fight...Shane has looked like shit in recent fights and is a shell of his former self...people that are equating what happened last night to anything remotely close that might happen in the pacman fight are being naive...
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I laughed when I seen this fight was made...And I laughed when I read the comments on this fight...Shane has looked like shit in recent fights and is a shell of his former self...people that are equating what happened last night to anything remotely close that might happen in the pacman fight are being naive...
:o
styles must make fights. roach has no interest in pac vs mosley...has said it on tape. maybe fmw aint that bad for all us haters. odds are mosley would have looked better against an offensive fight like berto if that fight had gone off. and fmw said willaims to big. maybe his style with long wing span and a looping right kills fmw's block a straight right with the shoulder wont work and he knows it.
styles make fights.
mosley good chin, experience and brawling made it look like a good fight. age? hopkins f##ked pavlik so didnt pay much attention to that. the old guys can make a fight when they are matched up with the right guy.
no one saw this one-sided fight...not even the long time trainers. you are lying if you say you did.
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I laughed when I seen this fight was made...And I laughed when I read the comments on this fight...Shane has looked like shit in recent fights and is a shell of his former self...people that are equating what happened last night to anything remotely close that might happen in the pacman fight are being naive...
Meanwhile Freddie Roach wouldn't allow Manny to fight Mosley because he said Mosley is too big and strong for him, meaning Mosley wins -- even at this stage. PBF will KO Manny. Manny's too small and way to easy to hit, he can't take Mayweathers punches, fuk even Mosley was rocked countless times which is crazy considering Mosley's never been stunned that much.
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:o
styles must make fights. roach has no interest in pac vs mosley...has said it on tape. maybe fmw aint that bad for all us haters. odds are mosley would have looked better against an offensive fight like berto if that fight had gone off. and fmw said willaims to big. maybe his style with long wing span and a looping right kills fmw's block a straight right with the shoulder wont work and he knows it.
styles make fights.
mosley good chin, experience and brawling made it look like a good fight. age? hopkins f##ked pavlik so didnt pay much attention to that. the old guys can make a fight when they are matched up with the right guy.
no one saw this one-sided fight...not even the long time trainers. you are lying if you say you did.
I predicted the fight to be 8 rounds to 4 for Floyd. Didn't think he'd be as dominant as he was although thought he'd win the fight with relative ease.
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did u not say Espaņol and Italia? are you in Italy or Spain, or duel citizenship, or Slate's other gimmick?
I'm in the US , Mom=Italian
Dad= Spaniard/Irish
Call me whatever you want brother.
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145lb "men" in shorts with pillows on their hands is serious bidness. ;D
I told you before, go into a boxing club and say that. Haha you think boxing for queers yet you go watch WWF ::)
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I laughed when I seen this fight was made...And I laughed when I read the comments on this fight...Shane has looked like shit in recent fights and is a shell of his former self...people that are equating what happened last night to anything remotely close that might happen in the pacman fight are being naive...
Floyd would destroy Little Manny. Said it before Mosely and I'm saying it after.
Little Manny is afraid of PBF, otherwise he'd step up and take the blood and urine tests as Shane did.
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145lb "men" in shorts with pillows on their hands is serious bidness. ;D
Get in the ring with them at your weight. You'd get FUCKED UP.
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Get in the ring with them at your weight. You'd get FUCKED UP.
Maybe both of them at the same time, right? ;D And I would gladly do it for the payday they receive. Got a promoter?