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Title: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 26, 2010, 01:35:28 PM
Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement

HAMILTON — The Butler County sheriff said he settled a lawsuit with an arrested undocumented immigrant worker for $100,000 because the other side didn’t want to go to trial, an explanation disputed by the plaintiff’s attorney.

“Basically the other side didn’t want to go to trial, they didn’t want to take a chance on losing,” Jones said Wednesday, April 21.

Luis Rodriguez, 44, formerly of Lebanon, filed the lawsuit claiming his constitutional rights were violated in 2007 when he and others were rounded up at a Port Union Road construction site by Butler County deputies and a former immigration specialist hired by Jones.

Jones added that there would have been serious ramifications to law enforcement if the county lost at trial.

“Both sides came to an agreement,” he said. “We believe we would have won if we had gone to trial.”

However, Rodriguez’s attorney, Al Gerhardstein, said Tuesday he was prepared to go forward with the case.

“I certainly was prepared to go to trial,” he said. But he said there had been ongoing negotiations on a settlement for weeks.

Gerhardstein argued that Jones did not have power to enforce the federal civil immigration law. The case was pending on motions for summary judgment and only weeks away from trial when the county agreed to pay $100,000 in settlement of the claims, Gerhardstein said.

Gerhardstein said his client, who had lived in Butler County for 11 years, was arrested and charged with providing a false identification and deported to Mexico, though he was later acquitted of the charge.

Rodriguez, who admitted to being in the country illegally and voluntarily departed the country in August 2008 to live in Mexico, will never be allowed back in the United States, Jones said.

Jones’ attorneys had argued investigators did not violate the law when they conducted a work site visit Jan. 2, 2007, according to court documents. They stated it is clearly established that local law enforcement may conduct activities relating to the enforcement of federal law.

Contact this reporter at (513) 820-2168 or lpack@coxohio.com.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 26, 2010, 01:42:43 PM
This is why we need laws sort of like what AZ is doing if the Feds arent going to do dick on this. 
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Dos Equis on April 26, 2010, 01:43:55 PM
Luis Rodriguez, 44, formerly of Lebanon, filed the lawsuit claiming his constitutional rights were violated in 2007 when he and others were rounded up at a Port Union Road construction site by Butler County deputies and a former immigration specialist hired by Jones.


 >:(
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 26, 2010, 01:45:28 PM
>:(

This Sheriff is great, I met him once.  Amazing man, he's a modern American hero...

(http://www.butlersheriff.org/illegals/aliens3.jpg)
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: kcballer on April 26, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
haha awesome good on Luis
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Dos Equis on April 26, 2010, 01:47:11 PM
This Sheriff is great, I met him once.  Amazing man, he's a modern American hero...

(http://www.butlersheriff.org/illegals/aliens3.jpg)

Is that a real sign?  
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 26, 2010, 01:48:40 PM
Is that a real sign?  

Yes, it's sitting in front of the Jail....  I'll see if I can find another photo.

He actually sent a bill to Mexico for all their citizens that he's housing in the jail.  ;D
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 26, 2010, 01:49:52 PM
(http://www.ohio-share.coxnewsweb.com/multimedia/dynamic/00634/IMMIGRANT_CRACKDOWN_634772b.jpg)
(http://www.citybeat.com/cincinnati/imgs/hed/art15909widea.jpg)
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 26, 2010, 01:50:54 PM
One of the only politicians I've actually felt good about voting for!
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Dos Equis on April 26, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
Yes, it's sitting in front of the Jail....  I'll see if I can find another photo.

He actually sent a bill to Mexico for all their citizens that he's housing in the jail.  ;D

Oh I love it.   :)
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 26, 2010, 01:56:31 PM
haha awesome good on Luis

Screw off with your treason.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: kcballer on April 26, 2010, 02:01:57 PM
Screw off with your treason.

How is it treason?  His rights were trampled.  You can cover it up with 'oh we knew we'd win but...' truth it it was challenged and they backed down so Luis in my opinion is in the right here, his rights were trampled and he now is 100k richer.  American dream really litigation to an elevation in bank balance. 
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2010, 02:29:08 PM
he's an illegal... it's bullshit.  Break his leg and tell him to piss off, and mail him home.


now, if legal AMERICANS are rounded up and carded - that would be some bullshit.  Neither side seems to be able to CLEARLY break down EXACTLY what the law lets police do.  Weird.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: The ChemistV2 on April 26, 2010, 02:58:32 PM
I'm really curious why liberals are such huge supporters of so called illegal-immigrant rights? Why are they not concerned about all the problems that have already contributed heavily to the bankruptcy of states like California. Now, there's a dangerous contingent of illegal alien drug smugglers plus the overburdening of social services.. I really don't get it. How can anyone who is not an illegal alien be upset that Arizona signs a bill that permits you to actually question someone whether they are legally in the country? I understand if you're a politician and you don't want to alienate hispanic voters, but why would any other decent American not support this bill. If there were a ton of illegal Irish people flooding the borders and a cop asked me to show my drivers license to prove I wasn't one of them, I wouldn't care. I really can't comprehend the liberal mindset at all.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2010, 03:05:27 PM
i hate this bill and it's not because of 'illegal immigrant rights'.

We could shoot them in the ass for being here, I wouldn't mind.

But every time an American is cuffed, detained or held by a cop and his "discretion" - that is some bullshit.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 26, 2010, 03:10:04 PM
i hate this bill and it's not because of 'illegal immigrant rights'.

We could shoot them in the ass for being here, I wouldn't mind.

But every time an American is cuffed, detained or held by a cop and his "discretion" - that is some bullshit.

YES!!!!

I've only been pulled over one time in my life, and the cop let me off.  He was friendly, I was friendly, decent cop...  Still I was pissed off, I can't even imagine being "detained" like you were.  I'd have a fucking meltdown...
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 26, 2010, 03:14:54 PM
How would you know who to shoot 240.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 26, 2010, 03:22:12 PM
Its simple.  Democrats want third world peasants to flood the nation that they can make lock step lib voters and welfare cases. 

This directly out of the cloward piven strategy to collapse the nation. 

Look it up.  I said from day 1 obama wants to collapse the system and I am 100 percent certain in that. 
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: drkaje on April 26, 2010, 03:23:38 PM
Will someone please explain (in layman's language) exactly how in the f*** a non-citizen's constitutional rights can be violated?
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Option D on April 26, 2010, 03:25:25 PM
>:(


So this guy is illegal right...how does he get constitutional rights...im not gettin it?
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 26, 2010, 03:27:25 PM
Because once you are here the legal system often does not a distinction based upon a persons' legal status, regardless of how crazy it seems.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Option D on April 26, 2010, 03:31:18 PM
Because once you are here the legal system often does not a distinction based upon a persons' legal status, regardless of how crazy it seems.

That dosent mean anything tme. So basically you are telling me
Person X comes into the states illegally. His illegal status dosent override anything dealing with his imaginary "rights" i mean. Its pretty retarded to me that an illegal can sue someone when the lawsuit revolves around his illegal status.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 26, 2010, 03:39:44 PM
Happens all the time.  I had a case recently involving illegals on a construction site who got hurt and they walked away w money. 

I represented one of the subs and the legal status did not make any difference at all.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Skip8282 on April 26, 2010, 03:55:28 PM
Happens all the time.  I had a case recently involving illegals on a construction site who got hurt and they walked away w money. 

I represented one of the subs and the legal status did not make any difference at all.

HA, exactly why I think people are in denial when they claim that the new healthcare bill won't apply to illegals.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 26, 2010, 03:58:52 PM
Of course it won't skip.  I already posted a thread about a week ago on this and how the libs stripped language out of the bill at the last minute allowing illegals to sign up for this once amnesty goes through.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 26, 2010, 04:16:47 PM
From what I've read, the constitution applies to everyone in the United States regardless of whether or not they're citizens...  :-\

Probably made more sense back when the constitution was written than it does now.
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: drkaje on April 26, 2010, 04:32:59 PM
From what I've read, the constitution applies to everyone in the United States regardless of whether or not they're citizens...  :-\

Probably made more sense back when the constitution was written than it does now.

Didn't apply to Indians or blacks, LOL!
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: 240 is Back on April 26, 2010, 05:00:06 PM
"How would you know who to shoot 240. "

I'm glad you asked, 333386.

Our govt would pay $100 for each illegal worker reported.  These employers would be fined out the ass.  Our Army would be tightening up the border to ensure no more come in, while the 'demand' for them drops significantly as INS raids buffets, construciton sites and tomato fields. 

Once the border is closed and those who are here can't find work for shit... they'll go home.  I won't have to shoot anyone because the problem would have been solved with economic common sense :)
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: Eyeball Chambers on April 26, 2010, 05:07:50 PM
Didn't apply to Indians or blacks, LOL!

Oh snap!  :o
Title: Re: WTF... Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement
Post by: 24KT on April 27, 2010, 06:42:30 AM
Sheriff responds to lawsuit settlement

HAMILTON — The Butler County sheriff said he settled a lawsuit with an arrested undocumented immigrant worker for $100,000 because the other side didn’t want to go to trial, an explanation disputed by the plaintiff’s attorney.

“Basically the other side didn’t want to go to trial, they didn’t want to take a chance on losing,” Jones said Wednesday, April 21.


What an absolute crock of shit. This sherrif is lying out of his big fat ass!

No one settles a lawsuit for $100K when you believe you are in the right and will win at trial.

He settled so he wouldn't have to deal with the deluge of lawsuits filed by others whose constitutional rights were violated in the same fashion.

"I'm right, the law is on my side, and we will prevail in court... but I'm gonna pay you $100K to drop the suit?" ???

He must think his constituents are the stupidest people on the planet.   ::)