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DEMOCRATS HID DAMNING HEALTH CARE REPORT FROM PUBLIC UNTIL A MONTH AFTER VOTE
Gateway Pundit ^ | 04/27/10 | Jim Hoft
Posted on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 3:09:10 AM by American Dream 246
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A damning health care report generated by actuaries at the Health and Human Services (HHS) Department was given to HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius more than a week before the health care vote. She hid the report from the public until a month after democrats rammed their nationalized health care bill through Congress.
The results from the report were troubling. The report released by Medicare and Medicaid actuaries shows that medical costs will skyrocket rising $389 billion 10 years. 14 million will lose their employer-based coverage. Millions of Americans will be left without insurance. And, millions more may be dumped into the already overwhelmed Medicaid system. 4 million American families will be hit with tax penalties under this new law.
Of course, these were ALL things that President Obama and Democratic leaders assured us would not happen.
Via Special Report:
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The American Spectator reported, via FOX Nation:
The economic report released last week by Health and Human Services, which indicated that President Barack Obama’s health care “reform” law would actually increase the cost of health care and impose higher costs on consumers, had been submitted to the office of HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius more than a week before the Congressional votes on the bill, according to career HHS sources, who added that Sebelius’s staff refused to review the document before the vote was taken.
“The reason we were given was that they did not want to influence the vote,” says an HHS source. “Which is actually the point of having a review like this, you would think.”
The analysis, performed by Medicare’s Office of the Actuary, which in the past has been identified as a “nonpolitical” office, set off alarm bells when submitted. “We know a copy was sent to the White House via their legislative affairs staff,” says the HHS staffer, “and there were a number of meetings here almost right after the analysis was submitted to the secretary’s office. Everyone went into lockdown, and people here were too scared to go public with the report.”
In the end, the report was released several weeks after the vote.
When Nancy Pelosi told America, “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,” she forgot to mention that democrats already knew what was in it. They just didn’t want the rest of the country to find out.
If we had a responsible media this would make headlines for about the next year and a half.
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You democrats and libs are the biggest suckers and fools on this planet for buying into the bs shoved down your throats by this admn.
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They dont care!!It was a win for the all mighty Obama,they only care about their lord,they dont give a flying fuck about the country.
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WOW just WOW...very bushesk
were are all the bush haters to condemn this?
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Silence from 240, straw, kc, benny blacken mons jag and ta is to be expected on this.
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I really hope this shit gets repealed.
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This may be true, but I have a problem believing something posted by "American Dream 246".
Did Dusty Rhodes decide to start a news group?
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This may be true, but I have a problem believing something posted by "American Dream 246".
Did Dusty Rhodes decide to start a news group?
It was a link through FR.
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James: every one of the knee padding posters here supporting this chaos, like 240, straw, kc, mons, blacken, benny, et al refused to listen to us.
I like 240, but I would not feel bad whatsoever if the others simply offed themselves for the stupidity they contribute to the society.
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Whats funy is that conservatives think Obama didnt know this already.THATS his plan,to destroy the private sector and as much of the country as he can.
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This was obvious to anyone with clue.
Sadly, idiots like Straw, KC, Blacken, Mons, and yes 240 (Whether intention or not), simply knee padded for this communist pofs.
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James: every one of the knee padding posters here supporting this chaos, like 240, straw, kc, mons, blacken, benny, et al refused to listen to us.
I like 240, but I would not feel bad whatsoever if the others simply offed themselves for the stupidity they contribute to the society.
333386,
I honestly think this will go down as one of the worst Bills ever signed into law.
If anyone wants a hint at what they can expect in a few years, just get out your phone book, find a Doctor that takes medicaid in your area (not that many).... and go sit in his or her office all day long.
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Where are the liberal/left wing idiots/Democrat scum that post every day on this board?
Yes, all of you are responsible for this. You voted for the scumbag and he is destroying this nation.
The American people need to put pressure on these "leaders" and have this garbage legislation repealed ASAP.
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Where are the liberal/left wing idiots/Democrat scum that post every day on this board?
Yes, all of you are responsible for this. You voted for the scumbag and he is destroying this nation.
The American people need to put pressure on these "leaders" and have this garbage legislation repealed ASAP.
It starts in November !!!!
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I warned everyone time and time and time and time and time and time again on this and guess who was right once again?
I am so utterly pissed off at my "fellow" americans who voted for these communists that I blame them more than ZERO himself.
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Any of you dumb libs want to respond to this other thread?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=328806.0
If you don't, we understand why. LOL!!
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BUMP FOR A RESPONSE FROM THE KP'ERS.
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**CRICKETS**
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If handed a nationwide vote on obamacare, i would have voted against it. i've said that 100 times to please, blow me if you claim otherwise.
That being said - if you voted for Romney, you've already endorsed obamacare once. You're a kneepadder for socialized medicine as well.
If you voted for Palin, then you have already endorsed the Bailout Bill, capping emissions, and Amnesty bill.
Unless you have a libertarian voting record, you're standing in a glass house throwing rocks.
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Good try.
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If handed a nationwide vote on obamacare, i would have voted against it. i've said that 100 times to please, blow me if you claim otherwise.
That being said - if you voted for Romney, you've already endorsed obamacare once. You're a kneepadder for socialized medicine as well.
If you voted for Palin, then you have already endorsed the Bailout Bill, capping emissions, and Amnesty bill.
Unless you have a libertarian voting record, you're standing in a glass house throwing rocks.
All of which has zero to do with the fact the report wasn't released.
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Good try.
No it wasn't. :)
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the point is, yall support socialist policies like Bailouts, amnesty, and free healthcare when it's wrapped in GOP colors :)
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the point is, yall support socialist policies like Bailouts, amnesty, and free healthcare when it's wrapped in GOP colors :)
Who does?Not me!!I dont want a fucking thing from the government except for them to protect the borders and even with that they are TOTAL FAILURES!!
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Which again has nothing to do with the fact they didn't produce this report before the vote.
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the point is, yall support socialist policies like Bailouts, amnesty, and free healthcare when it's wrapped in GOP colors :)
simply b/c you back a politician doesnt mean you support all their positions...you backed obama for president so by your logic you supported this even though you say you didnt despite the fact you silverlined and knee padded for it... ::)
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'backed obama'?
I didn't send him money. I didn't vote for him. i didn't forge a hawaiian birth cert.
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'backed obama'?
I didn't send him money. I didn't vote for him. i didn't forge a hawaiian birth cert.
LOL!! ;D
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'backed obama'?
I didn't send him money. I didn't vote for him. i didn't forge a hawaiian birth cert.
you did campaign for him, defend his positions, silverline his positions, dismiss his questionable ties, say he did have enough experience...
you dont have to vote for someone to back them 240... ;)
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Which again has nothing to do with the fact they didn't produce this report before the vote.
Which means that the Obama administration and other politicians on capitol hill blatantly lied to the American people just like they did during the Bush administration and then the Clinton administration etc. Something needs to really change in this country!!!
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Damn right, but I won't say it or advocate it though.
A picture speaks a thousands words though.
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the point is, yall support socialist policies like Bailouts, amnesty, and free healthcare when it's wrapped in GOP colors :)
Generalizing again. You don't know any of us. If it was the GOP trying to do all of that to the extent that the DEMS are, me and most of the American people would be in an uproar. Most of the American people don't like what the Dems are doing now and a lot of them voted for Obama. So your assertion, again, is incorrect.
But, lets get back on track here. Shall we? What do you have to say about Obama's Bushesque move hiding/burying this very important report? Change? What change? It's the same old lying, scumbag politicians as always.
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Notice how Straw, Lurker, Blacken, TA, Mons, Benny, Markos, KC, and the rest of KP'ers have been silent in this thread?
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Doesn't bother me guys. Health care costs money i never expected it to be a cheap alternative at all. I posted the articles about deficit cutting because the extra revenue will do that, but once the full service kicks in i'm under no illusions it will be an ongoing cost that will probably raise taxes and/or prices. This however, does not bother me one bit because everyone will get coverage, if i have to pay a little more then so be it. That is the choice i made when i voted democrat and wanted health care reform. It's not a money making business unless you cut service like the status quo does.
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Doesn't bother me guys. Health care costs money i never expected it to be a cheap alternative at all. I posted the articles about deficit cutting because the extra revenue will do that, but once the full service kicks in i'm under no illusions it will be an ongoing cost that will probably raise taxes and/or prices. This however, does not bother me one bit because everyone will get coverage, if i have to pay a little more then so be it. That is the choice i made when i voted democrat and wanted health care reform. It's not a money making business unless you cut service like the status quo does.
I expect to never again hear you bitch about bush keeping intel private or any other future politician that does it to get their agenda passed ::) moron...
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This however, does not bother me one bit because everyone will get coverage, if i have to pay a little more then so be it.
No, it won't cover everyone and even the Dems and Barry aren't making that claim, so perhaps you could tell where that comes from.
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No, it won't cover everyone and even the Dems and Barry aren't making that claim, so perhaps you could tell where that comes from.
I don't mean every single citizen i mean 32 million uninsured americans will now have access to coverage.
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So the end justifies the mean?
GFY!
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So the end justifies the mean?
GFY!
Sure does. Health care mandate so pay up b*tch ;D hahahaha hey how does Obama's dick taste 333 since he put his nuts on your chin with this legislation and all
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Honestly KC - Go kill yourself.
you are exactly the type of asshole I wish would fucking die w that disgusting mentality.
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So because he has a different view about how society should be, he should be dead?
Interesting.
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No because he feels that concealing, lying, etc justified generaltional theft etc is ok. yes, if he feels that is ok, let him go fucking die along with the other communist assholes.
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No because he feels that concealing, lying, etc justified generaltional theft etc is ok. yes, if he feels that is ok, let him go fucking die along with the other communist assholes.
I never said i was okay with the lying, just that i understood from the get go that it was going to cost money. Health care does that. In the end though the means have justified the end. If a politician lies he lies, it's in his job description. If he lies to do something damaging to the country it's not okay, if he lies to help people, well then so be it. Now go join your other teatards 333 and play pretend revolution ::)
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hey, every politician in washington is a POS who hides info that disagrees with the agenda he/she is selling.
OBAMA is a POS for doing it. So was Bush. So was clinton. So was everyone else before that.
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hey, every politician in washington is a POS who hides info that disagrees with the agenda he/she is selling.
OBAMA is a POS for doing it. So was Bush. So was clinton. So was everyone else before that.
but 240 this is different you see this guy is a communist/stalinist/hitler/nazi/ dictator who will end the world as we know it so stock up now on ammo, guns and beef jerky. I've never left the city and wouldn't know how to survive without a supermarket but i have an ak-47 and short temper, my name is 333 and you 240 are a knee padder because you don't want to overthrow the government with illogical arguments against it.
p.s. he's kenyan ;)
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Fuck, the earliest US Politicians (Like Washington, Jefferson, and Franklin) were members of secret societies... Those secretive POS.
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GMAFB - you guys are fucking pofs is think that is ok and are no different than the same asshole Bush you claim lied about WMD to justify war to push a policy.
240 & KC - honestly - if you think this is cool, go kill you miserable fucking selves.
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Personally, I agree with you... If this report is true and they hid it... truly hid it.
Fuck them.
I disliked the healthcare bill for 1 reason... None of the democratic members of congress agreed to them utilizing the same plan.
If it's good enough for the public, it should be good enough for them.
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"240 & KC - honestly - if you think this is cool, go kill you miserable fucking selves. "
Where did I say it was cool? I called him a POS over it. What more would you like? lol...
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I honestly think that 333 is inching closer and closer to shooting up something. Good thing 240's trailer moves so he can keep changing locations to throw off 333 tracking him. :D
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BF - do you think this is ok?
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BF - do you think this is ok?
No, but I can't say it's surprising.
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Yeah, it would be one thing if it were a minor law or issue, but this is 1/6 of thje economy and these traitors and treasonuos assholes knowingly lied to the public and you have scumbags like KC and 240 cheering it on as if its some adirmable feat they pulled off in getting away with this heist.
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lol 33 knows where I live and I know where he lives. it's mutually assured destruction lol...
besides, we both love america, and our positions are probably 90% the same. I like to debate politics here, but beyond that I don't talk it with relatives or get involved locally (shame on me). He lives this stuff, and takes it very seriously. I respect him for that.
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I live in the devils den of liberal insanity and know what is about to be spread across the nation and you guys have NO IDEA the locusts and plagues on the way.
This to me is as bad as any yellow cake memo or other bs that we heard during the bush years on Iraq.
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Sure does.
So you're ok with enhanced interrogation techniques as long as we benefit? Or does the end only justify the means when you happen to agree with it?
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This is why I have ZERO respect for 99.99999% of libs.
People like KC dont care if this country burns so long as his marxist agenda is pursued.
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I honestly think that 333 is inching closer and closer to shooting up something. Good thing 240's trailer moves so he can keep changing locations to throw off 333 tracking him. :D
;D 333 countdown to attack has begun. How long before he gets rounded up with all the other opponents and slaughtered? I mean that is the goal right guys? To become the second coming of Stalin. It all started with healthcare next thing you know everyone is dead. CANT YOU SEE IT MAN! CANT YOU SEE IT!!!!!!!!
hahahaha
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Communists like yourself always believe the end justifies the mean. This is no surprise to me that you support the Kenyan, Bi-Sexual, Coke Addicted, Communist, hack in the WH and his lies.
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Communists like yourself always believe the end justifies the mean. This is no surprise to me that you support the Kenyan, Bi-Sexual, Coke Addicted, Communist, hack in the WH and his lies.
he's bi-sexual now? hahaha is this the latest news? you've lost it teatard. Obama owns your mind i bet you even dream about him.
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wow i guess you have a shot now huh? :-* good for you maybe you can take out some of your anger in the bedroom with him. maybe over pillow talk you can advise him on policy, or did you already try that and got shunned hence your anger towards him?
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Sorry to burst you little bubble of the mocha messiah. He is fake, phoney, fraud, put forth for suckers and gullible fools like yourself.
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Sorry to burst you little bubble of the mocha messiah. He is fake, phoney, fraud, put forth for suckers and gullible fools like yourself.
not my messiah, just a pres who was better than mccain tea tard palin. still got sour apples over that though don't ya? getting your ass kicked hahaha obama to palin hey b*tch tell me how my ass tastes
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::) So its my fault 52% of population are gullible American Idolesqe voters like yourself ?
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::) So its my fault 52% of population are gullible American Idolesqe voters like yourself ?
you do realise that you can predict who will win based on photo's of each candidate? Don't blame me blame the people as a whole.
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Hey 333386, how do you like that you will be paying for the healthcare of all these lowlifes who feed their kids Pork Rinds, Twinkies, Grape soda and other useless junk. Nice footing the bill for these scum's obesity, diabetic, and heart disease related pathologies. What a joke.
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Its awful, but dont worry, I have no doubt that this is all going to lead to a national default and all this bullshit will go by the wayside under its own weight.
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not my messiah, just a pres who was better than mccain tea tard palin. still got sour apples over that though don't ya? getting your ass kicked hahaha obama to palin hey b*tch tell me how my ass tastes
No thats not what he says ,he says this "Dam baby your fine,unfortunately I married a filthy pre op tranny because I like cock and Michelle fucks me like a man".Then he pops his headphones on to be soothed by a Rev. Wright sermon or a Bill Ayers speech.
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Bump for Mal, Straw, Lurker, jag, Danny, Benny, 240, and any other fool on this board who supported ObamaCare.