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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: che on April 28, 2010, 07:18:25 PM
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Sadly all drugs will always prevail :).
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Psst........Psst.........here is a secret, this is free
They are ALL "ALL DRUGS"
flex wheeler was as much all drugs as ronnie, serge nubret was taking the same shit as arnold
you can argue that some guys have better better structures then others do....but that has nothing to do with drugs.....they are all taking lots and lots of them ::) ::) ::)
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Good genetics+all drugs vs Better Genetics+All drugs
Of course "all drugs" is the finishing touching, merely amounting to 2%
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Flex looked crazy in that pic.
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Psst........Psst.........here is a secret, this is free
They are ALL "ALL DRUGS"
flex wheeler was as much all drugs as ronnie, serge nubret was taking the same shit as arnold
you can argue that some guys have better better structures then others do....but that has nothing to do with drugs.....they are all taking lots and lots of them ::) ::) ::)
When you don't have a good structure you have to up the dosage.
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When you don't have a good structure you have to up the dosage.
Riiiiiight, if we all took pinned as much as them, we'd be stepping onto the Mr. O stage in no time. ::) Cmon Che, you know better than that.
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When you don't have a good structure you have to up the dosage.
Good structure and small joints doesn't necessarily mean better response to gear
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When you don't have a good structure you have to up the dosage.
no, you dont
what are you talking about
structure and ones genetic response to hormones are two COMPLETELY different things
jay cutler doesnt have the best structure, but has an AMAZING response to hormones and weightlifting
you have to up the dosage if your have a poor response to hormones, structure has little to do with it
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Riiiiiight, if we all took pinned as much as them, we'd be stepping onto the Mr. O stage in no time. ::) Cmon Che, you know better than that.
I never said that , I was referring to a PRO level.
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all the guys you showed have decent genetics even MR O cutler.
All drugs to me is:
Tom prince
Craig Titus
Art Atwood
Markus Rhul
Paul Dillet
Dave Palumbo
King Kamali
Heiko Kallbach
Hidetada Yamagichi
Trey Brewer
Feel free to add the list ;D
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all the guys you showed have decent genetics even MR O cutler.
All drugs to me is:
Tom prince
Craig Titus
Art Atwood
Markus Rhul
Paul Dillet
Dave Palumbo
King Kamali
Heiko Kallbach
Hidetada Yamagichi
Trey Brewer
Feel free to add the list ;D
All but the last four had awesome genetics dude. You are delusional.
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All but the last four fivehad awesome genetics dude. You are delusional.
fixed ;)
bench
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all the guys you showed have decent genetics even MR O cutler.
All drugs to me is:
Tom prince
Craig Titus
Art Atwood
Markus Rhul
Paul Dillet
Dave Palumbo
King Kamali
Heiko Kallbach
Hidetada Yamagichi
Trey Brewer
Feel free to add the list ;D
jay has great genetics
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Kind of a moot point because part of genetics, to me, is your response to drugs.
I've seen local gym rats put newbies on big test, tren and dbol cycles to blow up pinners. Some of them get a little jacked up and lose it when they come off, but I've seen some stay pretty large. I've also seen some just fucking explode and put all the rest of us to shame. They're just using the same drugs that everyone else is too.
But yeah, bodybuilding is all drugs. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fucking tool.
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all the guys you showed have decent genetics even MR O cutler.
All drugs to me is:
Tom prince
Craig Titus
Art Atwood
Markus Rhul
Paul Dillet
Dave Palumbo
King Kamali
Heiko Kallbach
Hidetada Yamagichi
Trey Brewer
Feel free to add the list ;D
ONCE AGAIN....THEY ARE ALL ALL DRUGS
take levrone and shawn ray......two of the greatest bodybuilders of all time, with some of the BEST genetics ever
when they go off the drugs.....they look like normal guys
(http://ricca509.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/kevin-street-walker.jpg)
(http://www.coldquads.com/interviews/shawnray_files/image003.jpg)
(http://mdtv.musculardevelopment.com/temps/nats-bikini-Nationals09.jpg)
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I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.
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Looks like it was the USA.
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I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.
shame on you naivety... ::) ::) ::)
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They were all lifetime nattys working their way toward MuscleMania shows.
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I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.
Sorry to say, but Ronnie hasn't been natural after his teenage. He maybe has been in the shows and hasn't been caught in the drug tests, but he was using that's sure. At least 98% of the competitive amateur bodybuilders use drugs, so what is the point to denying the facts.
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Psst........Psst.........here is a secret, this is free
They are ALL "ALL DRUGS"
flex wheeler was as much all drugs as ronnie, serge nubret was taking the same shit as arnold
you can argue that some guys have better better structures then others do....but that has nothing to do with drugs.....they are all taking lots and lots of them ::) ::) ::)
Haha, so true! Great post. :)
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I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.
yeah he was sucha tweek and a totally ordinary looking ::)
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nubret & arnold look the best outta all of them
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=329000.0;attach=369108;image)
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nubret & arnold look the best outta all of them
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=329000.0;attach=369108;image)
in my oppinion nubret has a better shape than arnold... he has rounder muscle bellies and I'd say better thickness, arnold looks awesome for a very wide structored bb'er for sure but I think nubret takes the cake... ofcourse arnold had the best face/hair/body combination 8) (nohomo)
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in my oppinion nubret has a better shape than arnold... he has rounder muscle bellies and I'd say better thickness, arnold looks awesome for a very wide structored bb'er for sure but I think nubret takes the cake... ofcourse arnold had the best face/hair/body combination 8) (nohomo)
I would have to agree with that, at least in this picture.
However, guys now sort of look disgusting in comparison.
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I would have to agree with that, at least in this picture.
However, guys now sort of look disgusting in comparison.
I started to watch bodybuilding fanaticly when i started training 5 years ago... not any more, I have gotten a SEEEErious wake up call from the bodybuilding culture as a whole... oh my god, I can't believe I used to get great satisfaction when a new body bagazine arrived, oh my god :-\, can you believe that shit.
training hard and having that as a lifestyle is great but that ridiculous training style and that gayer than hell tanning spray and those goddamn homo posing trunks, gayer than life audience and just plain horrid and ridiculous culture, I can't stand it, I walked away from it.
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I realize that I'm probably going to get lit up for this, but that pic of Flex and Ronnie is from either the '91 USA or '91 Nationals. Whichever it was, Ronnie was natural at that time weighing 220-225.
Haha - and Ron's got you down as a "Getbig Expert"? ::)
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Haha - and Ron's got you down as a "Getbig Expert"? ::)
I can't believe how some people think ronnie looks ALL natural in that picture :o, he doesn't look like a skinny twink there but a carved out of marble muscle mountain at 225 bone dry, wake the fuck up people ::)
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If genetics was not a determing factor then everybody could MR O with enough drugs and cash.
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genetic response to drugs.
end thread.
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You need the genetic structure/muscle shape to beign with.
All the drugs in the world ain't gonna change Hight Lats, High Calves, Short Bis, Short Tri's
Strange quad insertions, uneven abs....etc..
To be at the very top you need the genetics for muscle shape/structure
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I started to watch bodybuilding fanaticly when i started training 5 years ago... not any more, I have gotten a SEEEErious wake up call from the bodybuilding culture as a whole... oh my god, I can't believe I used to get great satisfaction when a new body bagazine arrived, oh my god :-\, can you believe that shit.
training hard and having that as a lifestyle is great but that ridiculous training style and that gayer than hell tanning spray and those goddamn homo posing trunks, gayer than life audience and just plain horrid and ridiculous culture, I can't stand it, I walked away from it.
Yeah, they look like mutants, and the sport is fueled by people trying to make money off of it like supplement companies, misguided people like you used to be (me too), and alternate lifestyle people.
In Arnold's day, real media actually cared. Now noone wants to look like these gone bad science experiments.