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Faisal Shahzad: Time Square Bomber, Islamic Terrorist (Shahzad Faisal)[Naturalized April 17th, 2009]
Right Pundits ^ | Tuesday, May 4th, 2010 at 12:01 am | MCCAIN
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 5:04:48 AM by Red Steel
An Islamic terrorist named Faisal Shahzad is the Time Square bomber according to media reports. He is Muslim of Pakistani heritage with dual citizenship in the United States, a registered Democrat in the state of Connecticut who may be an Obama donor. He was recently naturalized as a U.S. citizen under the Obama administration’s lenient open door policy.
Shahzad Faisal as identified by NBC News, or Faisal Shahzad as identified by U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, is a U.S. citizen of Pakistani origin. He was arrested at JFK airport in New York trying to flee the country back to Pakistan via a connector flight to Dubai, India on flight UAE 202. He was taken off the airplane sitting on the runway, promptly read his Miranda rights, and presumably went silent.
Obama’s policy of treating enemy combatants as common criminals has been much criticized outside of liberal intelligentsia. At least they got their man, but the free lawyers that us taxpayers are giving him will assure very little intelligence is gathered in this case.
The Obama Justice department has caused furor within law enforcement circles for being soft on terror. The method of apprehending this terrorist will simply increase the volume and scrutiny. The public asks why are terrorists getting arrested for criminal prosecution rather than detained and shipped to Guantanamo for military tribunals. Despite bad PR generated by liberal college professors and their allies, detaining terrorists in Guantanamo was one of the good ideas by the Bush Administration for U.S. security interests.
Faisal Shahzad was naturalized April 17th 2009, one of the early beneficiary of Obama’s liberal immigration policy that threw open the borders to treat all countries of origin alike. Two months later he was back in Pakistan, presumably meeting and plotting with terrorist allies there.
The slow motion war by Islamic fundamentalists marches on, unrecognized by the American political establishment, either through gross incompetence or pacification of radical voting groups for political expediency. Our leaders seem deaf and dumb to the threat against American interests and freedom.
Faisal Shahzad is a typical example if the charges are true, one of many who have attempted to cause terror among the populace, by lighting shoe bombs, underwear bombs, or blowing up cars in crowded urban centers. The current administration seems largely indifferent to the threat.
Faisal Shahzad had apparently been placed on the do-not-fly list earlier in the day, so a match was made against his passport when he tried to board an international airplane flight. This is a good win for the department of homeland security. We’ll leave the incompetence at preventing the attack for others to analyze.
Leads were easy in this case. A naive attempt was made to cover up the vehicle identification number on the Nissan Pathfinder loaded with explosives, by removing it from the inside door panel, but the number was left on the engine block. In addition, the purchase was made via CraigsList which left an electronic trail.
This is clearly a developing story for which more information will be forthcoming. We are still researching to understand if Faisal Shahzad was an Obama campaign donor. The Muslim community in the U.S. overwhelmingly supported the president’s 2008 election run. Stay tuned.
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Danny, straw, blacken, 240 must be really sad today.
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Hahaha. All the apologists are on suicide watch. "Looks like another McVeigh, blah, blah, blah." I wonder if the Obama administration is going to pussyfoot around this and follow their usual protocol of not using any word that could liken this to Islam. ::)
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This dirtbag was given citizenship last year!
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This dirtbag was given citizenship last year!
This is how it's going to be from now on. They don't have the ability to bring guys in a few weeks head of an attack. They're going to have to bring them in a year or two in advance.
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How about we dont let them in at all?
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How about we dont let them in at all?
BOOM!
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Fucking delusional guys on this website hoping and praying that an American born, christian white man was responsible. Sorry to burst your bubbles.
Unfortunetly for these douchebags, McVeigh was an isolated incident. Islamic Extremist turds constitute 100% of terrorists today.
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We make it impossible for asians and Europeans to legally come here but welcome these malcontents with open arms.
Unreal.
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Ha,ha,ha MSNBC hosts are on suicide watch today.I thought they were going to burst into tears last night and this morning.Maybe we can get more insightful remarks by that fool Bill Clinton on how things like the tea parties could inspire another McVeigh.Yet another lib in a violent act.
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240, and the rest of the "I pray that a tea partier did this" crowd need to STFU and accept the fact that they are infected with a severe mental disorder known as liberalism.
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240, and the rest of the "I pray that a tea partier did this" crowd need to STFU and accept the fact that they are infected with a severe mental disorder known as liberalism.
Whats incredible is,where is the medias investigations into the influence they have over all these kooky violent libs?The hispanic protests brought violence,this guy is a democrat he brings violence,the nutty professor was an Obama kook ,she brought violence,the fort hood shooter brings violence,the guy who shot up the army recruiting station a lib who brought violence,the nut that flew his plane into the building a lib who brought violence.
Instead of Maddow making up stories about a right wing influence over the census workers suicide or racist slurs at the tea parties,and Cilnton [with his glasses down on the end of his nose]being concerned over possible right wing attacks because of Rush and the tea parties,maybe they should look at themselves and ask why is EVERY political attack done by left wingers.Obviously the left wing media is driving these kooks to act out.I think we need congressional hearings and a possible shut down of all left wing media.
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Its because Liberalism is a severe mental disorder.
When 240 comes on the board along with Straw, KC, and Danny, no doubt they will spin, kneepad, and try to explain away theire liberal bs.
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240, and the rest of the "I pray that a tea partier did this" crowd need to STFU and accept the fact that they are infected with a severe mental disorder known as liberalism.
who said this
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You said yesterday or the day before that you thought initially it was a tea partier.
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Its because Liberalism is a severe mental disorder.
When 240 comes on the board along with Straw, KC, and Danny, no doubt they will spin, kneepad, and try to explain away theire liberal bs.
show me a quote where I said who did this?
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Its because Liberalism is a severe mental disorder.
When 240 comes on the board along with Straw, KC, and Danny, no doubt they will spin, kneepad, and try to explain away theire liberal bs.
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show me a quote where I said who did this?
Go back on the other thread - Danny said he thought initially is was mostly likly a mcVeigh vrwc type and you said you agreed completely.
Go back on that thread and look how foolish Danny and Blacken look now. Danny even tried to discredit Celente and look who was right?
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Go back on the other thread - Danny said he thought initially is was mostly likly a mcVeigh vrwc type and you said you agreed completely.
Go back on that thread and look how foolish Danny and Blacken look now. Danny even tried to discredit Celente and look who was right?
Hahaha. Remember when Danny told me not to jump to conclusions? Looks pretty ironic now. I identify liberal on a lot of issues but ultra-liberals like Straw Man are beyond delusional. I'm sure it's only a matter of time until they start championing the violated rights of this terrorist. ::)
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You said yesterday or the day before that you thought initially it was a tea partier.
if you're talking about me then show me the quote
I'm pretty sure I said no such thing and drew no conclusion at all about all about who did this
SHOW ME THE QUOTE
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Go in the other thread.
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240, and the rest of the "I pray that a tea partier did this" crowd need to STFU and accept the fact that they are infected with a severe mental disorder known as liberalism.
Once Again
who said this?
you have it in quotes so show us who said it
I know it wasn't me
If you put it in quotes then it must be a quote right?
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Oh please, I was using sarcasm you fool.
I was referencing the idiocy and mental gymnastics the libs like 240, Danny, and yourself often go to to deny the obvious.
I will say, you dont come out looking nearly as bad in that thread as Danny did.
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Oh please, I was using sarcasm you fool.
I was referencing the idiocy and mental gymnastics the libs like 240, Danny, and yourself often go to to deny the obvious.
I will say, you dont come out looking nearly as bad in that thread as Danny did.
Sarcasm?
you put it in fucking quotes
I guess now you're going to say that no one ever made this quote
"I pray that a tea partier did this"
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but it still didn't stop you from getting angry about it
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You, 240, Danny, Blacken had this whole image in your head of a McVeigh type doing this, just like the census worker fiasco, only to be let down that it was the most likely type.
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You, 240, Danny, Blacken had this whole image in your head of a McVeigh type doing this, just like the census worker fiasco, only to be let down that it was the most likely type.
It's funny that they're crying about profiling hispanics when every terrorist attack or event they paint the perpetrator as a white, right-wing type. Profile much?
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You, 240, Danny, Blacken had this whole image in your head of a McVeigh type doing this, just like the census worker fiasco, only to be let down that it was the most likely type.
again 3333 - you're just MAKING SHIT UP so you can justify your irrational anger
first of all how do you know what anyone has in their head?
I didn't make any claims about who did this except to tell you how stupid you are for thinking a claim of responsiblity by some group oversees was some kind of proof.
Other than that I made no speculation of who did this
I also made no speculation about that census worker either
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And who turned out to be right you delusional left wing moob bat?
Who was more stupid in the end?
It looks like you fool since it turned out to be exactly or near identicle to what many of us said it would.
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I wonder how often we’ll see pictures of this guy photo shopped in at tea party events?
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Once again,forget the guys on here.When will see the former president of the United States come out and blast left wing media for producing these violent people,like he does ALL THE TIME with the conservative media.We even have a left wing media who makes things up about spitting on congressmen and using racial slurs and blaming Rush for what turns out to be a suicide and implying that conservatives will become violent,when,once a month,we get another violent attack by a left winger.
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And he is admitting to it. So all the CT's by 240, Jag, Blacken, and rest of the left wing mentally disordered libs can screw off.
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U.S. arrests Pakistani-American over failed car bomb
4:00pm BST
By Daniel Trotta
NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Pakistani-American arrested on suspicion of driving a bomb-laden car into New York's Times Square told U.S. authorities he acted alone, but sceptical investigators are looking into his recent trip to Pakistan, a law enforcement source said on Tuesday.
Faisal Shahzad, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Pakistan, was arrested late on Monday at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York as he tried to take a flight to Dubai, local and federal officials said.
Shahzad, 30, was due to appear in federal court later on Tuesday to face charges of "driving a car bomb into Times Square on the evening of May 1," officials said. Had the bomb detonated, many people could have died, experts said.
"He's admitted to buying the truck, putting the devices together, putting them in the truck, leaving the truck there and leaving the scene," the law enforcement source told Reuters, speaking on condition of anonymity.
"He's claimed to have acted alone. He did admit to all the charges, so to speak," the source said, adding that investigators were still looking into his activities during a recent trip to Pakistan.
If links were found between the failed Times Square bombing and Pakistan's Taliban, which claimed responsibility for it, Pakistan could come under renewed U.S. pressure to open risky new fronts against Islamic militants.
Pakistan vowed to help the U.S. investigation.
Shahzad, who received U.S. citizenship last year, recently visited Pakistan for about five months, returning to the United States in February, the source said.
"Based on our collective experience it's hard to really believe that this is something someone would do on their own. It seems hard to pull off alone. There's a lot we don't know yet," the source said.
HOUSE SEARCH
Shahzad is suspected of buying the 1993 Nissan sport utility vehicle used to carry the crude bomb, made of fuel and fireworks, into Times Square as the theatre and shopping area
was packed with people on a warm Saturday evening. Had the bomb detonated, many people could have died, officials said.
Authorities searched Shahzad's home in Bridgeport, Connecticut, the FBI said on Tuesday. An FBI spokeswoman did not say what authorities had found.
New Yorkers bore the brunt of the September 11 attacks by al Qaeda militants in 2001, and Saturday's scare was a reminder that the city of 8 million people is always under threat.
Emirates, the airline whose flight Shahzad had boarded in New York before being detained, said in a statement that three passengers were removed from the plane. CNN reported that two passengers were cleared and released.
"Full security procedures were activated including the deplaning of all passengers and a thorough screening of the aircraft, passengers and baggage," an Emirates spokesperson said in a statement.
"The intent behind this terrorist act was to kill Americans," U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder told an early morning news conference on the arrest.
White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said President Barack Obama was notified of the arrest just after midnight by his counterterrorism chief, John Brennan, after being regularly updated during Monday on the investigation.
TALIBAN ANGLE
The Taliban in Pakistan said on Sunday it planted the bomb to avenge the killing in April of al Qaeda's two top leaders in Iraq as well as U.S. interference in Muslim countries.
Some officials voiced scepticism about the claim. But former CIA analyst Bruce Riedel, who last year oversaw an Obama administration strategy review on Afghanistan and Pakistan, cautioned against dismissing a Taliban role.
"They have said they want to attack inside the United States," he said before the arrest was announced, adding it was possible the incident involved "some Pakistani-American who has never built a car bomb before in his life but who is being coached either by phone or Internet."
Pakistan is an ally to the United States and other NATO countries fighting the Taliban in neighbouring Afghanistan but is also seen as a training ground for Islamist militants.
Saturday's failed bombing was the second significant plot in nine months targeting New York City. An Afghan immigrant, Najibullah Zazi, has pleaded guilty to plotting a suicide bombing campaign on Manhattan's subway system last September.
U.S. authorities disrupted that plot before Zazi and his accused accomplices were able to carry it out. Another Afghan-born man has pleaded guilty for his role in the plot.
Zazi admitted to receiving al Qaeda training in Pakistan.
Garry Hindle, head of security and counterterrorism at Britain's Royal United Services Institute think tank, said: "We've been saying for a long time that this type of incompetent attack is the trend. If it follows the pattern of previous incidents, we can expect to uncover an amount of prior overseas travel, instruction from trainers and a search for inspiration from radicalizers abroad."
(Additional reporting by Michelle Nichols in New York; Jeremy Pelofsky, Jeff Mason, JoAnne Allen and Will Dunham in Washington; and William Maclean in London; Editing by Frances Kerry)
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You, 240, Danny, Blacken had this whole image in your head of a McVeigh type doing this, just like the census worker fiasco, only to be let down that it was the most likely type.
Wow....man you're slow. All I sais was that... it COULD be a McVeigh wannabe and it was too soon to jump to conlusion and now you're spinning it saying I'm dissapointed or something ????? That fucker should die in the electrical chair...I don't give a fuck if he's a republican or democrat. Don't put words in my mouth homie. Did your ego get bruised just because I suggested to wait a few more days to have REAL information before blaming somebody?? After Joe STack crashed his plane into the IRS building in Austin did you say he was a muslim by any chance, before the info came out....just curious???
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hahaha that article loses all credibility when he says "he may be an obama donor" typical insert name here to sully reputation. ::) 333 you need to post something a little less one sided.
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You libs really need to shut up for a few days.
You guys are so owned on this. And Danny, you went so far as to attempt to discredit Celente in that thread when he has been talking about this for months on end.
Go read the thread Danny - You = FAIL!
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Wow....man you're slow. All I sais was that... it COULD be a McVeigh wannabe and it was too soon to jump to conlusion and now you're spinning it saying I'm dissapointed or something ????? That fucker should die in the electrical chair...I don't give a fuck if he's a republican or democrat. Don't put words in my mouth homie. Did your ego get bruised just because I suggested to wait a few more days to have REAL information before blaming somebody?? After Joe STack crashed his plane into the IRS building in Austin did you say he was a muslim by any chance, before the info came out....just curious???
"it COULD be a McVeigh wannabe" BUT it wasnt!!!!It was a muslim democrat AS have all the last few attacks been by libs or muslim libs.Any left wing media investigating?Clinton giving a speech with his glasses at the end of his nose expressing concern?Maddow doing show after show on it?Olberman asking "have you no shame sir"?Nope,much easier to make up stories about tea party people spitting at congressmen.
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You libs really need to shut up for a few days.
You guys are so owned on this. And Danny, you went so far as to attempt to discredit Celente in that thread when he has been talking about this for months on end.
Go read the thread Danny - You = FAIL!
The only one who should stop talking for a few days (or weeks or months) is you.
I can't believe were having this conversation
are you really this fucking stupid
I'm not saying they didn't do it but merely taking credit is proof of NOTHING
are you really a lawyer?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36934331/ns/us_news-security/?GT1=43001
Investigators still don't have evidence that Shahzad is connected to the Pakistani Taliban or any foreign terror groups. Said one government source: "He's claimed to have acted alone, but these are things that have to be investigated."
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geez, obsess much? Where did I ever say I hoped it was a white dude?
I said the terrorist should be tortured and capped, no matter where he's from.
just because your liberal ass state, NYPD, and Bloomberg like to put out misinformation about being a whte guy.
it's okay though. If hating on me for a position I never took will help allow you justify that piece of shit the GOp has become, with your watered down RINOS like palin and romney, you carry on. Keep that rage nice and loud, it'll scare the swing voters into obama's corner.
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geez, obsess much? Where did I ever say I hoped it was a white dude?
I said the terrorist should be tortured and capped, no matter where he's from.
just because your liberal ass state, NYPD, and Bloomberg like to put out misinformation about being a whte guy.
it's okay though. If hating on me for a position I never took will help allow you justify that piece of shit the GOp has become, with your watered down RINOS like palin and romney, you carry on. Keep that rage nice and loud, it'll scare the swing voters into obama's corner.
Ha,ha,ha,ha yes,we are scaring people.Please tell me what is a bigger attempt to scare people,a few conservatives pissed off because idiot libs blame us for crap that is a lie or this?
Now,this was an attempt to scare people AWAY from being against the assinine health care crap that the libs shoved down our throats by the mayor of the biggest city in the country while talking to that gummy skank.THAT will scare people away from Obama and the lib fanatics in this country!!!
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You libs really need to shut up for a few days.
You guys are so owned on this. And Danny, you went so far as to attempt to discredit Celente in that thread when he has been talking about this for months on end.
Go read the thread Danny - You = FAIL!
"When fascism comes to America, it will be draped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis.
I guess you're always right....just like the communists, and there is NO other point of view or a remote possibility somebody else could have a different one ::)
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So all the CT's by 240, Jag, Blacken, and rest of the left wing mentally disordered libs can screw off.
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Do you have a link to the CTs I spewed on this one?
LOL... youre so pissed off, and nobody jumped to conclusions except maybe the NYPD, and maybt that was so the paki terrorist would feel safe and call his contacts, hit an airport, etc.
33, take a deep breath - we're all americans. Sounds like you hate libs as much as you hate the terrorists. You haven't made 10 posts dissing the paki POS.... but you have way more than that, dissing your fellow americans who didn't say such a thing.
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ofr course there were *some* lib bloggers out there, hoping it was a mcveigh.
but I wasn't one of them 333386. So please stop saying I was. I posted the NYPD release - if you have a problem with the info, please call up bloomy and bitch him out.
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"When fascism comes to America, it will be draped in the flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis.
I guess you're always right....just like the communists, and there is NO other point of view or a remote possibility somebody else could have a different one ::)
Please you marxist asshole - just listen to Celente's clips, Obama is the texbook definition of fascism. &guy of state and corporate powers.
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ofr course there were *some* lib bloggers out there, hoping it was a mcveigh.
but I wasn't one of them 333386. So please stop saying I was. I posted the NYPD release - if you have a problem with the info, please call up bloomy and bitch him out.
Just like the Census worker right 240? ::) ::)
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You libs really need to shut up for a few days.
You guys are so owned on this. And Danny, you went so far as to attempt to discredit Celente in that thread when he has been talking about this for months on end.
Go read the thread Danny - You = FAIL!
OBAMA should call the SWAT TEAM on him like he did the grannies huh 33333
fuckin tard
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Just like the Census worker right 240? ::) ::)
Like I said, 240 was practically cumming in his pants at the thought of this guy being a right-wing white man with tea party ties and an axe to grind. Must have been pretty devastated when he woke up this morning.
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Please you marxist asshole - just listen to Celente's clips, Obama is the texbook definition of fascism. &guy of state and corporate powers.
333 - why should anyone bother to look at your clips when you don't do the same
why don't we all just make up shit like you do and then get pissed off
that's pretty much all you ever do
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ofr course there were *some* lib bloggers out there, hoping it was a mcveigh.
but I wasn't one of them 333386. So please stop saying I was. I posted the NYPD release - if you have a problem with the info, please call up bloomy and bitch him out.
Na..bro..you should have pulled a 3333 and totally made some shit up that wasnt based on fact...like "obama calling the swat team on grannies".
idiot
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ofr course there were *some* lib bloggers out there, hoping it was a mcveigh.
but I wasn't one of them 333386. So please stop saying I was. I posted the NYPD release - if you have a problem with the info, please call up bloomy and bitch him out.
Wrong!!!It wasnt lib bloggers,it was the mayor of New York and the fools on MSNBC and the other lib networks like that fool Katie 'GUMMY "Kuric.If it had been a tea party guy MSNBC would have had coverage from morning to night JUST as they did when the census worker killed himself and they said it was a murder by an anti government extremist.
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Keith will find a way to blame tea party or Bush ;D
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/Diogenes2008/Best%20Of/Keith1001006.jpg)
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OBAMA should call the SWAT TEAM on him like he did the grannies huh 33333
fuckin tard
Yeah, too bad your hero is obsessed with the tea party grannies and giving away our nuke secrets than to deal with real terrorists in our midst and leave it up to citizens JUST LIKE THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER, to deal with reality.
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Yeah, too bad your hero is obsessed with the tea party grannies and giving away our nuke secrets than to deal with real terrorists in our midst and leave it up to citizens JUST LIKE THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER, to deal with reality.
These people won't be satisfied until they set off a dirty bomb or biological attack that kills 100k. Only then might they start to acknowledge the problem but I doubt it.
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Yeah, too bad your hero is obsessed with the tea party grannies and giving away our nuke secrets than to deal with real terrorists in our midst and leave it up to citizens JUST LIKE THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER, to deal with reality.
What in sam hill are you talking about.
Im just talkin about you making shit up...thats it...
Was i right?
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Na..bro..you should have pulled a 3333 and totally made some shit up that wasnt based on fact...like "obama calling the swat team on grannies".
idiot
First off- his detail called the swat team on them.
Second - show me other than something that occurred 15 years ago, any right wing acts opf terrorism in blowing up bombs? You cant so its only perfectly logical based on reality that it was a muslim savage pofs who we never should have even allowed into this country into the first place.
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Keith will find a way to blame tea party or Bush ;D
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x177/Diogenes2008/Best%20Of/Keith1001006.jpg)
I bet there is a hollow sound when he hits his empty no talent head.He also looks no better when he comes on at 9.
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Yeah, too bad your hero is obsessed with the tea party grannies and giving away our nuke secrets than to deal with real terrorists in our midst and leave it up to citizens JUST LIKE THE CHRISTMAS DAY BOMBER, to deal with reality.
Hold your horses chief...
First off...i can care less about any fuckin terroists rights...My brother did 3 tours in iraq and one in afg...and i had friends (1 man and 1 woman) killed by road side bomber...dont begin to tell me what the fuck i feel about obamas stance or terroism.. Thats not what the fuck im talking about..Im talking about YOU MAKIN SHIT UP AND OMITTING FACTS TO FIT YOUR MONEKY ASS BELIEFS...thats it...you aint never seen an apologists quote from me re: any terroist. So cut the shit and get some facts...
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These people won't be satisfied until they set off a dirty bomb or biological attack that kills 100k. Only then might they start to acknowledge the problem but I doubt it.
Agreed 100%. I always say, libs dont believe that 3,000 dead people on 9/11 was enough to justify that we do what we have to to protect ourselves. My only question to these deluded scumbags is if not 3,000, how many? 30,000? 300,000? 3,000,000?
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First off- his detail called the swat team on them.
Second - show me other than something that occurred 15 years ago, any right wing acts opf terrorism in blowing up bombs? You cant so its only perfectly logical based on reality that it was a muslim savage pofs who we never should have even allowed into this country into the first place.
first off it wasnt a swat team..it was local police in riot gear fool, there are facts to back that up. Are there any facts that Obama...called the SWAT TEAM?
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Agreed 100%. I always say, libs dont believe that 3,000 dead people on 9/11 was enough to justify that we do what we have to to protect ourselves. My only question to these deluded scumbags is if not 3,000, how many? 30,000? 300,000? 3,000,000?
I say im a liberal, but say no idiotic shit like we want people dead...You dickhead, just because we make moves based on FACTS and not based on what "GOD" told us, pertaining to war dosent equal=libs want 3000k dead.
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i was wrong about the census worker, so i dont jump to conclusions anymore.
i sure didn't jump to one here.
but carry on, if being obsessed makes your life happier :)
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No, but libs dont want allow the govt to profile, to ban immigration from countries where most terrorists come from, cry about guantanmo, etc etc etc.
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Please you marxist asshole - just listen to Celente's clips, Obama is the texbook definition of fascism. &guy of state and corporate powers.
Marxist???????? I'm gonna pretend I didnt see the asshole word and still try to be civil here.......but don't call me a marxist or a communist....unlike you I lived under communists for 20 years or so....and fled the country risking to be shot on sight...so spare me your lectures. You know absolutely nothing about communism or marxism except maybe for what your brainwashed head has been fed in hopes to make you live in fear and be easily manipulated and controlled. ;)
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Marxist???????? I'm gonna pretend I didnt see the asshole word and still try to be civil here.......but don't call me a marxist or a communist....unlike you I lived under communists for 20 years or so....and fled the country risking to be shot on sight...so spare me your lectures. You know absolutely nothing about communism or marxism except maybe for what your brainwashed head has been fed in hopes to make you live in fear and be easily manipulated and controlled. ;)
BOOM?
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Is he from NK?
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333 - you're getting your ass handed to you on this thread
why don't take a break and review all your lies and absurd accusations on this thread and come back when you can have an honest discussion
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Really, do you want me to bump the other thread where Danny (who must be from NK), and you and others claimed it was most likely a mcVeigh type only based on your msnbc fueled delusions?
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Really, do you want me to bump the other thread where Danny (who must be from NK), and you and others claimed it was most likely a mcVeigh type only based on your msnbc fueled delusions?
Self owning of major proportions. NOBODY said anything about NK as far as I know here, yet you try to make it into an established FACT :-\ Second of all here's my 1st post on your McVeigh theory.
"i wouldn't be surprised if this is some McVeigh wannabe....so let's not jump to conclusions." do I CLAIM anywhere it is a McVeigh copycat???
my 2nd post was "NYPS is holding a press conference right now talking about the incident and also saying there is NO evidence to support the pakistani taliban claim. They have identified a "white male in his 40's" on the surveillance video. :o"
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Self owning of major proportions. NOBODY said anything about NK as far as I know here, yet you try to make it into an established FACT :-\ Second of all here's my 1st post on your McVeigh theory.
"i wouldn't be surprised if this is some McVeigh wannabe....so let's not jump to conclusions." do I CLAIM anywhere it is a McVeigh copycat???
my 2nd post was "NYPS is holding a press conference right now talking about the incident and also saying there is NO evidence to support the pakistani taliban claim. They have identified a "white male in his 40's" on the surveillance video. Shocked"
Why would you say "shocked"?When was the last time a white male in his 40s committed such a crime?Are they known for anti government terrorism?I dont recall one 40 year old white male committing terrorism unless that kook who flew his plane into the building was in his 40s[a lib by the way].
It actually would be shocking if it were a white guy who did this.ITS ZERO shock that it turned out to be a filthy,dirty,muslim.Thats what they do.
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333 - you're getting your ass handed to you on this thread
LOL!! That has been happening to him quite regularly now.
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::) ::)
DID YOU SEE THE OTHER THREAD WHERE 240, STRAW, BLACKEN, AND DANNY ASSUMED THIS WAS GOING TO BE A WHITE TEA PARTY MCVEIH TYPE?
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DID YOU SEE THE OTHER THREAD WHERE 240, STRAW, BLACKEN, AND DANNY ASSUMED THIS WAS GOING TO BE A WHITE TEA PARTY MCVEIH TYPE?
hhhmmmm... NO. maybe you should look some words up in the dictionary before using them. You are the only one that makes a lot of assumptions here. AS a matter of fact some of us wanted to WAIT for more information to come in before making up our minds or blaming somebody ....that would be....u know the opposite of ASSUMING. ;)
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He is melting faster than a cheap candle in the microwave.
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i was wrong about the census worker, so i dont jump to conclusions anymore.
i sure didn't jump to one here.
but carry on, if being obsessed makes your life happier :)
LMAO
240: "ppl will get pulled out of ice cream lines"
sounds like sound judgement based on facts to me ;)
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"DID YOU SEE THE OTHER THREAD WHERE 240, STRAW, BLACKEN, AND DANNY ASSUMED THIS WAS GOING TO BE A WHITE TEA PARTY MCVEIH TYPE? "
Where did I assume this? Bloomberg and the NYPD released info that it was a white male in his 40s.
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DID YOU SEE THE OTHER THREAD WHERE 240, STRAW, BLACKEN, AND DANNY ASSUMED THIS WAS GOING TO BE A WHITE TEA PARTY MCVEIH TYPE?
For about the 5th time now
SHOW ME A QUOTE WHERE I MADE ANY STATEMENT LIKE THIS
WHY THE FUCK TO YOU INSIST ON REPEATING THE SAME LIE OVER AND OVER
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And I told you that he said later that the guy probably had NOTHING to do with it.
I am from NYC 240 and am in the city ALL THE TIME.
Bloomberg is spouting his bs today again about "we wont tolerate backlash against pakis".
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"DID YOU SEE THE OTHER THREAD WHERE 240, STRAW, BLACKEN, AND DANNY ASSUMED THIS WAS GOING TO BE A WHITE TEA PARTY MCVEIH TYPE? "
Where did I assume this? Bloomberg and the NYPD released info that it was a white male in his 40s.
Not only did Bloomberg say that.He said it was probably a guy who was angry at the health care bill.This man is a disgrace.
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For about the 5th time now
SHOW ME A QUOTE WHERE I MADE ANY STATEMENT LIKE THIS
WHY THE FUCK TO YOU INSIST ON REPEATING THE SAME LIE OVER AND OVER
;D ;D I think I've seen this before ....that's right Parah Sailin. ;D
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For about the 5th time now
SHOW ME A QUOTE WHERE I MADE ANY STATEMENT LIKE THIS
WHY THE FUCK TO YOU INSIST ON REPEATING THE SAME LIE OVER AND OVER
Go look on the other thread.
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;D ;D I think I've seen this before ....that's right Parah Sailin. ;D
I being to think 333 in simply a pathological liar
he puts statements in quotation marks and attributes it to people on this site and then later says he was being sarcastic (where's the sarcasm) and then later repeats the lie or some variation again and again
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didn't you say you'd support Bloomberg for president?
hell, you already voted for Romney without knowing a single thing about Romneycare, socialized medicine which was the focal attack point that rudy and other repubs used on romney.
it's like you support these people based upon their personality, not upon any political position. Bloomberg is a RINO or a lib, remember his meeting with Obama in NYC during the election? Hell, he was probably lobbying for the veep slot.
Or the time you started a Scott brown 2012 camapaign before realizing he was a lib too.
So the next time you want to MAKE UP positions that myself or others take, maybe you should pay closer attention to the people you're actually supporting for president. if I labeled Mitt Romney with Obama's positions in 2007 (and they aren't that far apart), you'd probably elect his ass president.
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Go look on the other thread.
You are a LIAR
plain and simple
if you want to claim someone here said something then show the quote
btw - you already admitted you made this up which makes your defending it now even that much stranger.
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A little raw Straw?
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Judging by the number of threads on the first page of this forum posted by 338 ( 16 threads) this should be called "The Getbig Republican brainwashing board" not....politics and political issues. ;D
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A little raw Straw?
definitely sick and tired of your lies
serious question - why do you feel the need to lie so much?
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Judging by the number of threads on the first page of this forum posted by 338 ( 16 threads) this should be called "The Getbig Republican brainwashing board" not....politics and political issues. ;D
Danny: you tried to discredit Celente when he turned out to be correct on this. Do you take that back? He has been talking about Pakistan for months.
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333 - what's the point of even trying to engage you in a discussion when you just make up shit, then admit you made it up and then forgot you already admitted it and say it again
have you ever suffered a serious head injury?
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Yes, reading your posts.
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Bwahahahahaha! "Staw Man" calling someone a liar? LOL! :)
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Danny: you tried to discredit Celente when he turned out to be correct on this. Do you take that back? He has been talking about Pakistan for months.
It doesn't take a genius to realise Pakistan is a very hot spot right now and it's just a matter of time until something like this will happen. ::) And to answer your question.. no I wasn't trying to discredit anybody, that was the first article that came up when I researched his name a little bit since I wasn't very familiar with it. Maybe he was right about it but that definitely shouldn't justify your position where YOU continually bash everything and everybody else that doesn't align with or share your views. :-\
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Its only Blacken, Mons, and Straw. KC, TA, HUGO and I disagree on a ton of stuff but I like those guys.
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I being to think 333 in simply a pathological liar
he puts statements in quotation marks and attributes it to people on this site and then later says he was being sarcastic (where's the sarcasm) and then later repeats the lie or some variation again and again
didn't you say you'd support Bloomberg for president?
hell, you already voted for Romney without knowing a single thing about Romneycare, socialized medicine which was the focal attack point that rudy and other repubs used on romney.
it's like you support these people based upon their personality, not upon any political position. Bloomberg is a RINO or a lib, remember his meeting with Obama in NYC during the election? Hell, he was probably lobbying for the veep slot.
Or the time you started a Scott brown 2012 camapaign before realizing he was a lib too.
So the next time you want to MAKE UP positions that myself or others take, maybe you should pay closer attention to the people you're actually supporting for president. if I labeled Mitt Romney with Obama's positions in 2007 (and they aren't that far apart), you'd probably elect his ass president.
333 - what's the point of even trying to engage you in a discussion when you just make up shit, then admit you made it up and then forgot you already admitted it and say it again
have you ever suffered a serious head injury?
LMAO!!! He keeps dancing and spinning, slinging mud hoping something will stick. It would be amusing if it wasn't so pathetic.
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Its only Blacken, Mons, and Straw. KC, TA, HUGO and I disagree on a ton of stuff but I like those guys.
So what part of this explains/excuses the fact that time and time again (and again and again) you resort to lies, falsehoods, and complete fabrication of events/quotes/things even in the face of being caught and busted?
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Bwahahahahaha! "Staw Man" calling someone a liar? LOL! :)
Bum - I can't believe you would take time away from exposing yourself to children to post on this thread
do you want to bring up your lame argument again and we'll have the same discussion we've had 50 times before?
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Like the post office?
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Bum - I can't believe you would take time away from exposing yourself to children to post on this thread
do you want to bring up your lame argument again and we'll have the same discussion we've had 50 times before?
LOL. Ah shaddap you lying pedophile. (Don't feel bad when I ignore you again).
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LOL. Ah shaddap you lying pedophile. (Don't feel bad when I ignore you again).
Of course you're going to run away Nancy
you're engaging in classic projection so what else can you do
you're the only one on this board who thinks that showering with young boys for the sole purpose of exposing yourself to them is a great idea and "makes sense".
Clearly you're a very weak person who tries to take advantage of children but on some level you're justifiably ashamed by this so you project that guilt onto others by making baseless accusations of the sick things that you are guilty of doing
I understand why you want to run away but do the world a favor and stay away from kids
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Haha...the backpeddling in here is disgusting...in a comical way.
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The libs are all upset that their MSNBC induced wet dreams did not come to fruition with this. Skip - just look at the pity party threads I started.
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The libs are all upset that their MSNBC induced wet dreams did not come to fruition with this. Skip - just look at the pity party threads I started.
you mean the "dream" you imagined up yourself and then pretended was real and then admitted was false and then forgot you had admitted you made it up and said it again
yeah that's a drag
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Barack is going to have one less vote in 2012 to count on now.
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AP sources: Bomber trained at Pakistan terror camp
Yahoo News ^ | 4/4/2010 | Yahoo News
Posted on Tuesday, May 04, 2010 4:02:12 PM by Dallas59
WASHINGTON – The suspect in the failed Times Square bombing told authorities he trained at a terrorism camp in Pakistan, officials said Tuesday as they worked to unravel the events leading up to the nearly catastrophic attack.
Faisal Shahzad was arrested late Monday and charged with trying to blow up an SUV in crowded Times Square on Saturday evening. Attorney General Eric Holder said Shahzad was cooperating with authorities and would face terrorism and weapons of mass destruction charges.
Holder said Shahzad had provided valuable information, but the attorney general would not elaborate.
One law enforcement official said Shahzad told the FBI he trained in Pakistan. A second said the training was believed to be in the lawless tribal region of Waziristan, where the Pakistani Taliban operates with near impunity.
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
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LOL FOR YOU BF
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The far-left and the political elites hunger for a non-Muslim suspect - whether it be a deranged loner, member of a white supremacist group or whatever; quite simply because it could be used to serve their twin empty vessels of multiculturalism and diversity:
"See, it isn't just Muslims, you bigot..."
But the cold hard fact is, that it is just Muslims.
LOL FOR YOU BF
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Remember another thing BF - they want to shut up the teabaggers, rush and Beck and what easier way to "NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE" than to have the bomber be a right wing talk radio listening member of the vrwc?
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you're the only one on this board who thinks that showering with young boys for the sole purpose of exposing yourself to them is a great idea and "makes sense".
This is just a joke right?
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So what part of this explains/excuses the fact that time and time again (and again and again) you resort to lies, falsehoods, and complete fabrication of events/quotes/things even in the face of being caught and busted?
No answer?
LOL!
You got slammed to hell and back on this thread and you are still trying to rescue yourself?
Tard.
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Go look at the other thread asswipe.
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Go look at the other thread asswipe.
The answer to why you lie is in another thread?
You have used that excuse quite a bit here.
So rather than do that, I am simply asking you point-blank : Why do you lie? Why do you fabricate bullshit facts to post about?
Why?
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This is just a joke right?
no joke at all
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no joke at all
Is there a link to this?
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Is there a link to this?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133374.0
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http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133374.0
Well! Showering with children. Isn't that Republican-y?
Only a bigot idiot like Dobson could fathom some rational logic in such a thing. By "rational logic" I actually mean "bullshit".
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Well! Showering with children. Isn't that Republican-y?
Only a bigot idiot like Dobson could fathom some rational logic in such a thing. By "rational logic" I actually mean "bullshit".
I think the simple answer is that it's just an excuse to expose yourself to children
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Why are you derailing this thread into a discussion on your pedophilia?
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Why are you derailing this thread into a discussion on your pedophilia?
Ask the moderator
Bum called me a Pedo so I'm forced to respond
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"Straw Man" you are a friggin weirdo. And an outright liar. How many times do I have to expose you for being the lying liar you are? [The answer is not many, because I'm going to use the "remove" button.]
Let's get something straight weirdo:
1. You have been talking about the penis of little boys for three years on this board. I can probably find more than ten references to you talking about the penis of little boys.
2. You are a middle-aged, never married "man" with no kids, who constantly talks about the penis of little boys:
Here is a thread from over a year ago where Straw "Man" obsessed over penis talk. I am starting to think he is obsessed. Or a homosexual. Not that it matters. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=133050.0
3. I have never said I agree with showering with boys, etc. That is an outright lie. What I said, three years ago ::), was this:
Okay. I read it. He doesn't say showing your son your penis will prevent homosexuality.
Great read though.
And I stand by that. Great read. He made some terrific points in the article.
Just so we're clear, he did not say you have to show your penis to your son to prevent your son from becoming a homosexual and nowhere have I said I believe that to be true. So, for you to say Dobson says this, and that I agree, is inaccurate.
4. Some of the most levelheaded, smart people on the board called you on your weirdo fascination with me, and your abject dishonesty:
You lie! Beach Bum neither agreed with the statement nor did he advocate it. Stop with defamation of character. How low can you sink?
Like I said, Beach agreed w/the analysis of homosexuality by Dobson. Not that Dobson said a man could take his son in the shower.
Your conclusion doesn't add up.
Weird thing you seem to be trying to do here :-\
Yes but I don't think it was part of the analysis to which Beach was referring.
And yes, it seems like a very strange thing to say or suggest. Bizarre in fact.
More spinning! ::)
I don't care what Dobson said. If that's what he said, I disagree with Dobson. That's not the point.
First you lie and said that Beach Bum "advocates showering with young boys for the express purpose of preventing gayness"
Then you yourself admit that it was Dobson, not Beach Bum who said that and who advocates that.
Then you yourself admit that Beach Bum likes Dobson and is "pretending" that Dobson didn't say that.
Well, if Beach Bum is "pretending" that Dobson didn't say that, that's your proof right there that Beach Bum doesn't agree or advocate what Dobson said.
Now, weirdo, this 2010. 2010 and you're still obsessed with little boy penis talk. And you wonder why I call you a Pedophile? ::)
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Bum - you call me a pedophile because you are a pedophile
you won't find one quote from me talking about the penis of little boys
What you will find is me showing you the following quote by Dobson about how to cure and prevent homesexuality in children.
I assumed you would immediately say you thought it was fucking weird and that you didn't agree but you didn't do that did you and you've been denying it ever since:
Here's the Quote:
Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
heres' your response:
Among other reasons:
1. I find it amusing that people who probably don't have a son (a straight one anyway) or kids at all criticize a child rearing expert.
2. I read the entire article and it is a great read. Makes sense to me.
3. I've read Dr. Dobson's books and I think he is a wonderful psychologist.
4. I particularly like this expert, which is a real eye opener IMO:
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Damn and I though the fact that he thinks the us post office is in great shape made him strange.
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Damn and I though the fact that he thinks the us post office is in great shape made him strange.
well, I think I said "fine" but at least I don't think showering with young boys will help them to not be gay
that's truly fucking weird
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Why anyone follows these religious nut jobs is beyond me, especially dobson.
If those guys dont make you just want to race across to the other side of the street i dont know what does.
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Why anyone follows these religious nut jobs is beyond me, especially dobson.
If those guys dont make you just want to race across to the other side of the street i dont know what does.
When I posted that quote a few years ago I truly thought that Bum would say that was sick, stupid, crazy etc...
I was stunned by his response
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People like dobson just seem exceptionally creepy to me.
I just want to be left the fuck alone by everyone. People like dobson seem to be busy bodies just as bad as the nanny staters i scream about.
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People like dobson just seem exceptionally creepy to me.
I just want to be left the fuck alone by everyone. People like dobson seem to be busy bodies just as bad as the nanny staters i scream about.
me too
EXCEPTIONALLY CREEPY
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In addition to being exposed as a lying liar, the weirdo has been obsessed with little boy penis talk for three years.
2007:
BB - taken completely out of context you are correct. Dobson does not expclicity say that in order to prevent your son from being gay you need to show him your penis.
However - the title of article is - Can Homosexuality be TREATED and PREVENTED - and the part about showering with your son so he can see your adult penis is part of an overall prescription to affirm his maleness for the purpose of, presumably, the treatment and/or prevention of GAYNESS
2008:
more than that - he believes a male parent can cure or prevent homosexuality by showering with your son for the sole purpose of having your son observe your adult sized penis........ completely true and 100% BIZZARO
it's even creepier when you realize that Dobson is totally serious:
Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/a000000264.cfm
2009:
click the link and then press Control F and put in the word "shower" and you'll find the section where the "Docter" prescribes showering with your son so that he can see your adult penis and, here's where it get's nutty, that this will prevent him from being gay
Here's the good doctors complete prescription for the prevention of gayness: Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
:D
2010:
The only thing you slap around is your pecker (and hopefully not while you’re showering with your son)
Why does the weirdo constantly talk about the penis of little boys? :-\
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In addition to being exposed as a lying liar, the weirdo has been obsessed with little boy penis talk for three years.
Why does the weirdo constantly talk about the penis of little boys? :-\
Bum
are you aware that the only person who has ever mentioned the penis of little boys
is YOU
and Dobson
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In addition to being exposed as a lying liar, the weirdo has been obsessed with little boy penis talk for three years.
2007:
adult penis
2008:
showering with your son so that he can see your adult penis
sole purpose of having your son observe your adult sized penis........
He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
2009:
He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
2010:
The only thing you slap around is your pecker
Why does the weirdo constantly talk about the penis of little boys? :-\
From what you have just posted, all references he has made has been 100% directed at the word-for-word article written by Dobson. Not sure what you were trying to accomplish here.
Also, the "penis" reference contained in your own quotes is in regards to an adult penis. There is not a single reference made to little boys penis. I have even bolded the proof for the debate impaired. The only talk of kiddie penis has come from your accusations, not anything Straw has said. And the penis talk Straw has done is directed right back to the Dobson claim.
Your spin failed.
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Looks like another Dem on the list.
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FBI Raids Home of Obama Associate & Radical AAAN Leader in Terrorism Sweep
BigGovernment.com ^ | 09/28/2010 | Jim Hoft
Last Friday FBI agents raided the homes of far left activists in Chicago and Minneapolis who are linked to the FARC and Islamic radicals as part of a terrorism investigation.
The home of radical Hatem Abudayyeh in Chicago was raided in the terror sweep.
The AP reported on the raid in Chicago.
FBI agents in Chicago took a laptop and documents from the home of a Palestinian-American anti-war activist in an attempt to silence his advocacy, an attorney said Sunday.
The FBI on Friday searched eight addresses in Minneapolis and Chicago, including the home of Hatem Abudayyeh, who is the executive director of the Arab American Action Network, attorney Jim Fennerty told The Associated Press.
“The government’s trying to quiet activists,” Fennerty said. “This case is really scary.”
More than half a dozen agents went to Abudayyeh’s home on Friday and took any documents containing the word “Palestine,” Fennerty said.
Abudayyeh, a U.S. citizen whose parent immigrated from Palestine, wasn’t home at the time of the raid because he was at a hospital with his mother who is battling liver cancer, Fennerty said.
Chicago activist Thomas Burke said he was served a grand jury subpoena that requested records of any payments to Abudayyeh or his group.
“The warrants are seeking evidence in support of an ongoing Joint Terrorism Task Force investigation into activities concerning the material support of terrorism,” said Steve Warfield, spokesman for the FBI in Minneapolis, where six additional homes were searched Friday… Burke said he received a grand jury subpoena requesting records of payments to Abudayyeh’s organization as well as two groups among the State Department’s list of foreign terrorist organizations, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).
There’s more… Hatem Abudayyeh is the executive director of the Arab American Action Network (AAAN). Hatem Abudayyeh has been with the Arab American Action Network (AAAN) since 1999, and was appointed Executive Director in 2003. The Arab American Action Network was founded by former PLO operative and close Obama family friend Rashid Khalidi. Obama was a director of the Woods Fund from 1994 through 2001, when the board approved a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network.
In 2003 Barack Obama was an honored guest at a dinner sponsored by the AAAN for former PLO-operative Rashid Khalidi. During the dinner a video was taken that shows Barack Obama celebrating with members of this Palestinian group who are openly hostile towards Israel. Barack Obama even gave a toast to a Rashid Khalidi at this going away party. The LA Times will not release the video from this Jew-bashing dinner.
Here’s a recent quote by Hatem Abudayyeh:
“The U.S. and Israel will continue to describe Hamas, Hezbollah and the other Palestinian and Lebanese resistance organizations as ‘terrorists,’ but the real terrorists are the governments and military forces of the U.S. and Israel. The vast majority of the world sees and understands this, and are in full support of Lebanese, Palestinian and worldwide resistance to Israel and the U.S.’s naked aggression, war, imperialism and occupation. As we have seen in Iraq, where the resistance is standing up to U.S. power, the U.S. military is not indomitable.”
Last Friday the FBI raided the home of AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh. He is Barack Obama’s friend.
It should be noted… FARC terror leader Mono Jojoy was killed in an attack on September 22. Several computers were seized by authorities after the Colombian jungle attack. The FBI raided the homes of the FARC terrror sympathizers two days after Mojoy was killed.