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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Army of One on May 04, 2010, 04:51:29 AM
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Seriously Id like Bob Chick to watch this docu and tell me bodybuilding has even one ounce of credibility, every facet of this "sport" gets exposed and shamed, a must watch if you need your eyes opened.
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I really dont care enough to watch any of it...there are freaks and weirdo's in every facet of life...get used to it.
BB is certainly no exception...but the business of BB, and the sports supp industry, etc is all far removed from any of this shit you're obsessed with...
I find the fact that you spend your time gloating over this more frightening...
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I really dont care enough to watch any of it...there are freaks and weirdo's in every facet of life...get used to it.
BB is certainly no exception...but the business of BB, and the sports supp industry, etc is all far removed from any of this shit you're obsessed with...
I find the fact that you spend your time gloating over this more frightening...
Well lets just take one part of the documentary, women doing private sessions, you honestly think that at least half the women competitors havnt done one?Thats akin to half the NFL being male escorts while not playing, your delusion about your "sport" is frightening.
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dude we all know it for what it is already.... ::)
if you don't like it maybe polo or table tennis are to your liking
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Well lets just take one part of the documentary, women doing private sessions, you honestly think that at least half the women competitors havnt done one?Thats akin to half the NFL being male escorts while not playing, your delusion about your "sport" is frightening.
great, so whats your point?
So what aspect of life do you believe is 100% pure? Politics? Hollywood? Music business? Sports? Big Business?
Why you're HERE is a bigger delusion
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great, so whats your point?
So what aspect of life do you believe is 100% pure? Politics? Hollywood? Music business? Sports? Big Business?
Why you're HERE is a bigger delusion
Im well aware most aspects of life arnt 100% pure, but most aspects of life dont have a huge % of impure as bodybuilding.Your thinking is like saying Somalia isnt so bad as there have been crimes committed in Norway too.
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Im well aware most aspects of life arnt 100% pure, but most aspects of life dont have a huge % of unpure as bodybuilding.Your thinking is like saying Somalia isnt so bad as there have been crimes commited in Norway too.
So...why are you here again?
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So...why are you here again?
Nice misdirection, care to address my points?
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Nice misdirection, care to address my points?
Your point was addressed in my response....
Why do you refuse to answer as to why you spend your time on a site dedicated the the sport you hate?
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Your point was addressed in my response....
Why do you refuse to answer as to why you spend your time on a site dedicated the the sport you hate?
I dont spend any time on a site dedicated to a sport I hate.
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some of it was funny
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Well lets just take one part of the documentary, women doing private sessions, you honestly think that at least half the women competitors havnt done one?Thats akin to half the NFL being male escorts while not playing, your delusion about your "sport" is frightening.
This post makes absolutely no sense.
Did you even try to follow your own, er, 'logic'?
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Interesting documentary from the wimp's point of view. The skinny guy was funny but many who he interviewed missed his humour.
Guy Grundy was there and even one of the Barbarians. The video focussed on women with muscles and it more or less showed what was happening in the sport.
I have been saying for years now that this ^%#^%$@#^%@# sport had better clean itself up and do strict testing for all banned substances. Even Charles in the
video was worried about the drug aspect and what it did. Do we really expect the pro athletes rep to give a shit about drugs in this sport?
He can't even be civil to someone on Getbig with difficult questions.
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Schmoe overdose! :-X
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I really dont care enough to watch any of it...there are freaks and weirdo's in every facet of life...get used to it.
BB is certainly no exception...but the business of BB, and the sports supp industry, etc is all far removed from any of this shit you're obsessed with...
I find the fact that you spend your time gloating over this more frightening...
I am NOT going to beat this to death, but c'mon Chick, we both know plenty of pro and top amatuer bodybuilders that are on contract to endorse various supplements AND are/were directlly involved in rather unsavory stuff behind the scenes.
Obviously, THIS kind of thing is NOT unique to BB considering the recent Tiger Woods and Ben Rosthleburger (sp?) sex scandels. Look at what happened to the sponsors of Tiger Woods when his scandel broke. Granted, he is a huge media star in sports, but his deal was basic hook ups with adult hot babes, and it was a big deal.
Imagine if the actual truth was known about some bodybuilders and the crap they did?
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Bob is just shameful really, I'm amazed he gets any sponsorships.Can you imagine a politician turning on one of his constituents and namecalling when asked a legitimate question about the state of the constituency?He'd be booted out of office in a hearbeat.Shows Bodybuilding has no class, guidelines or ethics.
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dude we all know it for what it is already.... ::)
if you don't like it maybe polo or table tennis are to your liking
Yes, "WE" know about this stuff along with the extreme level of mostly illegal drug use all too common in hardcore BB.
The sad truth is that if EVERYONE in the gen public knew, their ability to get an decent supplement contract would be a LOT lower.
Chick is correct that the avg idiot at the Arnold Expo doesn't knolw too much abouit this crap, butit would really be a scandel for Arnold and pro BB if they did.
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Bodybuilding at the professional level is controlled by a closed group who don't have to pay attention to the muscleheads. They do what they like and the bodybuilders follow like sheep. It has been like this for decades. I have said it before and I will say it again that Bob is part of the problem in our sport. You have to get rid of the lot of them to improve the sport.
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Bob is just shameful really, I'm amazed he gets any sponsorships.Can you imagine a politician turning on one of his constituents and namecalling when asked a legitimate question about the state of the constituency?He'd be booted out of office in a hearbeat.Shows Bodybuilding has no class, guidelines or ethics.
Yet, you're the one unable to answer a simple question....
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Yet, you're the one unable to answer a simple question....
I didnt take up a public post to represent anything, you did.The fact you cant answer any tough questions without trying to change the subject shows you are not fit for the role.
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Howard, believe me even kids know about steroids. They also believe you need protein to grow muscles. That is why they buy it. It is a sham but there you are. This bullshit has been going on even before I started training. When you sell something that people need every month or two you can make a fortune.
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This post makes absolutely no sense.
Did you even try to follow your own, er, 'logic'?
Explain to me which part doesnt make sense.
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Yes, "WE" know about this stuff along with the extreme level of mostly illegal drug use all too common in hardcore BB.
The sad truth is that if EVERYONE in the gen public knew, their ability to get an decent supplement contract would be a LOT lower.
Chick is correct that the avg idiot at the Arnold Expo doesn't knolw too much abouit this crap, butit would really be a scandel for Arnold and pro BB if they did.
Howie...people have to CARE in the first place in order for there to be a "scandel"...BB isnt high enough on the food chain for people to give a shit either way.
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Howie...people have to CARE in the first place in order for there to be a "scandel"...BB isnt high enough on the food chain for people to give a shit either way.
Strange, this forum shows alot of people displeased with the state of bodybuilding.So you are bascially saying that because bodybuilding is a fringe "sport" that you can neglect your duties as a representative and not give a shit about the fans.Again, why do you still have this "role"?
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Strange, this forum shows alot of people displeased with the state of bodybuilding.So you are bascially saying that because bodybuilding is a fringe "sport" that you can neglect your duties as a representative and not give a shit about the fans.Again, why do you still have this "role"?
There are natural federations with seemingly clean cut individuals... but nobody cares...
The fans are the problem?
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Strange, this forum shows alot of people displeased with the state of bodybuilding.So you are bascially saying that because bodybuilding is a fringe "sport" that you can neglect your duties as a representative and not give a shit about the fans.Again, why do you still have this "role"?
Are you counting yourself as a "fan" of bodybuilding?
Your posting history would dispute that...thus my point
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Are you counting yourself as a "fan" of bodybuilding?
Your posting history would dispute that...thus my point
I never claimed to be, most people who had a mild interest in Bodybuilding then found out more soon became non fans due to people like yourself not cleaning it up.Hey as long as the cheques keep coming right?
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Are you counting yourself as a "fan" of bodybuilding?
Your posting history would dispute that...thus my point
you gotta give it to bob, like him or not, after all the other pros flee to their safe boards, where they are paid to post, .....and can have the mods delete any negative thing someone says about them
bob is still here, gettin' his hands dirty with the lilliputians in post after post.....gotta respect that
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I never claimed to be, most people who had a mild interest in Bodybuilding then found out more soon became non fans due to people like yourself not cleaning it up.Hey as long as the cheques keep coming right?
So you had a mild interest, found out the dirty under belly of the sport, now have no interest....yet spend countless hours on a bodybuilding forum, now obsessed with gay, G4P, schmoes, etc...the very thing you allegedly despise??
Anyone have Dr. Phil's number?
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So you had a mild interest, found out the dirty under belly of the sport, now have no interest....yet spend countless hours on a bodybuilding forum, now obsessed with gay, G4P, schmoes, etc...the very thing you allegedly despise??
Anyone have Dr. Phil's number?
Exactly. Very strange how the haters of bodybuilding come to this site and spend all this time obsessing over the negatives of bodybuilding. There is obviously more deep seeded issues at hand....On a side note, didn't know Guy Grundy had such a bad lisp when pronouncing anything with an S in it. Outed? ;D
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The problem we have is that Bob considers himself quite intelligent. Thus, he deems himself excellent at debating and he feels entitled to enjoy the rewards of being the spokesman for the muscleheads.
When it comes to this forum, hapless Bob is quite pedestrian and fumbles and stumbles along quite oblivious of any shortcomings. In that regard he resembles his supporter Vince G CSN MFT.
Good for anyone who can earn a living from this sport. If a requirement is getting along with those who run the sport as well as the sponsors then Bob knows who to befriend and be loyal to. You really have to wonder about the quality of musclemen when you consider that Bob C is representing them. What a sham that setup is yet he persists in this stupid position because it gives him standing. So Bob is no fool but the sport sure sucks.
I wonder who is advising him to post the way he does? He has lost the plot long ago and is making enemies daily on line.
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Nice to see Basille posting on here more frequently. That means there are less children being photographed without their knowledge.
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For the most part, bodybuilding is like any other sport - a majority of it is people who like to bodybuilding, enjoy the business, get contracts, endorsements, and more. And the small minority goes into all other aspects. How funny that some of you still obsess over the minority and its unsavory dealings.
Welcome to the world. I think some of you are just in your own bubble, hating on bodybuilding whenever you can. Have you even been outside? Have you ever even looked at other sports, at the movie, television industry?
Each industry, each sport - has its own unsavory aspects. From various stories I have heard, bodybuilding is more out there because of the notion of 'steroids' and 'roid rage' and it sounds good. Yes, there are stories and people who do that, but... that happens in many sports and many industries.
Get over it.
For every negative of bodybuilding, there are many positives. Millions of people work out, try to get in shape - simple as that.
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Explain to me which part doesnt make sense.
Well let's just take one part of the documentary, women doing private sessions, you honestly think that at least half the women competitors haven't done one? That's akin to half the NFL being male escorts while not playing, your delusion about your "sport" is frightening.
You suggest that 'half' the women competitors have done a session.
You then say it's like 'half the NFL being male escorts', which would be an absurd claim.
So, yes or no, are you trying to say that approximately 'half' of women who compete have done a 'session'?
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Howie...people have to CARE in the first place in order for there to be a "scandel"...BB isnt high enough on the food chain for people to give a shit either way.
Ok Bob, I didn't want to go there but since you insist nobody cares let me give an example and see if you think I am wrong.
Imagine if the "grapefruits/bondage " pics of Kai Green , 2 time Arnold Classic champ were released to some sleezy tabloid magazine. While not too many avg joe's know about Kai, they all know Arnold, the move star and current Gov of Cal. You have the victory pic of Arnold and Kai on stage together and it blows up from there.
Now, considering that the public went wacky over Tiger Woods hooking up with some hot adult woman, imagine how they would react if they knew the questionable background of the current 2 time ARNOLD classic champ. I think you get my pt.
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For the most part, bodybuilding is like any other sport - a majority of it is people who like to bodybuilding, enjoy the business, get contracts, endorsements, and more. And the small minority goes into all other aspects. How funny that some of you still obsess over the minority and its unsavory dealings.
Welcome to the world. I think some of you are just in your own bubble, hating on bodybuilding whenever you can. Have you even been outside? Have you ever even looked at other sports, at the movie, television industry?
Each industry, each sport - has its own unsavory aspects. From various stories I have heard, bodybuilding is more out there because of the notion of 'steroids' and 'roid rage' and it sounds good. Yes, there are stories and people who do that, but... that happens in many sports and many industries.
Get over it.
For every negative of bodybuilding, there are many positives. Millions of people work out, try to get in shape - simple as that.
All true Ron but let me ask you, how did the public react when it got info on sex and steroid scandels of various athletes....OUTRAGE and pissed off .
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The problem we have is that Bob considers himself quite intelligent. Thus, he deems himself excellent at debating and he feels entitled to enjoy the rewards of being the spokesman for the muscleheads.
When it comes to this forum, hapless Bob is quite pedestrian and fumbles and stumbles along quite oblivious of any shortcomings. In that regard he resembles his supporter Vince G CSN MFT.
Good for anyone who can earn a living from this sport. If a requirement is getting along with those who run the sport as well as the sponsors then Bob knows who to befriend and be loyal to. You really have to wonder about the quality of musclemen when you consider that Bob C is representing them. What a sham that setup is yet he persists in this stupid position because it gives him standing. So Bob is no fool but the sport sure sucks.
I wonder who is advising him to post the way he does? He has lost the plot long ago and is making enemies daily on line.
vince Bob is a good guy that is in a world of folks that inolves illegal drug use to win and do well, plus all the other crap. Bob is in a tough spot in his position.
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magine if the "grapefruits/bondage " pics of Kai Green , 2 time Arnold Classic champ were released to some sleezy tabloid magazine. While not too many avg joe's know about Kai, they all know Arnold, the move star and current Gov of Cal. You have the victory pic of Arnold and Kai on stage together and it blows up from there.
First, the grapefruit act was when Kai is a stripper, making thousands for a night in front of screaming women. Such is life. Kai does not do that now, and it was good money when he needed it. If Kai was doing any of that now, it would be a different story. But he isnt. What occurred in the past is in the past. You gonna haunt him for the rest of his life. He didnt molest anyone, he didnt hurt anyone, he didnt defraud anyone, so frankly - who cares. I would care more if he was a violent or a criminal who hurt people than being a stripped in his past life. Wow.
All true Ron but let me ask you, how did the public react when it got info on sex and steroid scandels of various athletes....OUTRAGE and pissed off
It got into the sex and scandals of various athletes because they were MARRIED! If they were single, then it wouldnt be a big story.
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Nice to see Basille posting on here more frequently. That means there are less children being photographed without their knowledge.
It may not get much fanfare, but this is easily one of the best ongoing feuds in the online bodybuilding community.
;)
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I really dont care enough to watch any of it...there are freaks and weirdo's in every facet of life...get used to it.
Dude, I hope you don't wanna deny that the BB scene attracts proportionally more freaks and weirdo's than most other facets of life, do you?? ::)
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First, the grapefruit act was when Kai is a stripper, making thousands for a night in front of screaming women. Such is life. Kai does not do that now, and it was good money when he needed it. If Kai was doing any of that now, it would be a different story. But he isnt. What occurred in the past is in the past. You gonna haunt him for the rest of his life. He didnt molest anyone, he didnt hurt anyone, he didnt defraud anyone, so frankly - who cares. I would care more if he was a violent or a criminal who hurt people than being a stripped in his past life. Wow.
It got into the sex and scandals of various athletes because they were MARRIED! If they were single, then it wouldnt be a big story.
Ron , as you may realize already, I could care less about any personal sexual activity of any kind myself.
It is the general public that gets all worked up over kind of sex scandel. aka sex sells.
But c'mon Ron saying Kai did this in a room of woman is well ... c'mon Plus, being married added m ay have added to the drama but I think we both know Tiger's antics were big news regadless.
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"bodybuilding" catters to homosexuals and psychologically insecure people who need to overcompenste for their shortcomings.
Physical conditionning also catters to homosexuals and psychologically insecure people who need to overcompenste for their shortcomings but to normal people looking to learn healthy habits too.
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Dude, I hope you don't wanna deny that the BB scene attracts proportionally more freaks and weirdo's than most other facets of life, do you?? ::)
I am going to give Bob credit for doing things the right way and he provides a good example of how a pro BB should behave and act in public. Obviously, he knows what is going BUT Bob isn't the "code of conduct police " for the IFBB.
He does his best to make BB look good, which ain't easy hehehe.
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"bodybuilding" catters to homosexuals and psychologically insecure people who need to overcompenste for their shortcomings.
Physical conditionning also catters to homosexuals and psychologically insecure people who need to overcompenste for their shortcomings but to normal people looking to learn healthy habits too.
I disagree on this. Granted, a % of actual pro BB ,both male and female get inolved in some questionable behavior.
BUT, the vast majority of fans gym members are NOT involved in this crap.
The sad reality is that those who are actual top male/female bodybuilders seem to be directly involved with this.
It is also a well known fact that 99.99% of every top pro is juiced to the gills on illegal banned subtances.
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I used to say I wasa competitive bodybuilder
now I just say yeah ...I lifted
outof shame
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I used to say I wasa competitive bodybuilder
Why did you lie?
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did you hear that beast Maria? she gets pissed off when someone adresses her as ''''sorry sir'' in the groceries-store. hahaha its not that they want to hert her they genuinely think its a dude. She also said '' 95% of men like females with muscles but are just shy to admit''' Fucking delusional mind with a twink husband. She looks disqusting and disturbing, only has herself to blame and not the public.
That reporter is awesome, love his show, wouldnt watch it otherwise.
Females that take drugs to look very masculine dont just do that cause they like the look, its a subconciousness thing, they were probably hit or abused by their father and now feel the need to bulk up and take charge.
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did you hear that beast Maria? she gets pissed off when someone adresses her as ''''sorry sir'' in the groceries-store. hahaha its not that they want to hert her they genuinely think its a dude. She also said '' 95% of men like females with muscles but are just shy to admit''' Fucking delusional mind with a twink husband. She looks disqusting and disturbing, only has herself to blame and not the public.
That reporter is awesome, love his show, wouldnt watch it otherwise.
Females that take drugs to look very masculine dont just do that cause they like the look, its a subconciousness thing, they were probably hit or abused by their father and now feel the need to bulk up and take charge.
I think it sad that these woman train so hard and then end up with such serious side effects it distorts their feminine look.
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Why did you lie?
your english is not very good
lieing is like when you say you're straight
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ill watch the doc later, I'm intrigued by nefarious things, but do not judge it....Bunch of guys on here complaining about women in the bodybuilding/fitness industry getting into shady sexual things is a bit odd...What guy complains about a woman with increased sexual drive?
What is more odd then that is a bunch of guys complaining about what the minority of male bodybuilders do to pay the bills...The only ones that pay attention to that kind of stuff are hardcore fans, and I'm trying to figure out why they care?
People with nice physiques can always find the sexual niche out there in the world to pay the bills...It is nothing new and will never go away no matter how much you complain or don't like it...Question i have is why do you care so much? Are you a politician trying to make a name for yourself getting loud about something that raises eyebrows? NO...So what is the deal?
Does it bother me equally as much that you don't like it or complain about it? No, but it's an interesting topic, and fun also...
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Im well aware most aspects of life arnt 100% pure, but most aspects of life dont have a huge % of impure as bodybuilding.Your thinking is like saying Somalia isnt so bad as there have been crimes committed in Norway too.
rofl!!
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Plus, being married added m ay have added to the drama but I think we both know Tiger's antics were big news regadless.
Nope. Think about it for a minute.
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"bodybuilding" catters to homosexuals and psychologically insecure people who need to overcompenste for their shortcomings.
Physical conditionning also catters to homosexuals and psychologically insecure people who need to overcompenste for their shortcomings but to normal people looking to learn healthy habits too.
this is all bullshit because i have a good sized penis and i have the pictures to prove it
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this is all bullshit because i have a good sized penis and i have the pictures to prove it
So, you don't fall into the group with "shortcommings"
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For the most part, bodybuilding is like any other sport - a majority of it is people who like to bodybuilding, enjoy the business, get contracts, endorsements, and more. And the small minority goes into all other aspects. How funny that some of you still obsess over the minority and its unsavory dealings.
On the female side, do you think it's a minority who are straight up whores, who depend on prostituting themselves in various ways to be able to afford the "sport"? Obviously it's an overwhelming majority who cater to the fbb sex fetish.
Not that the male side is that much different. How many have any type "real" endorsement contract that pays the bills?
It's not a minority that deals with the unsavory side. Drug dealing and/or whoring is what pays the bills for so many.
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So, you don't fall into the group with "shortcommings"
oh course not
i have a huge cock
which is why i don't get why Rodney St. Cloud competes because i've seen him nude and he is hung like a fucking horse
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oh course not
i have a huge cock
which is why i don't get why Rodney St. Cloud competes because i've seen him nude and he is hung like a fucking horse
Too much info there buddy LOL, my post was meant as a quick joke reply woah!
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Too much info there buddy LOL, my post was meant as a quick joke reply woah!
who you kidding
you know that Rodney has a huge cock, you old queen
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I really dont care enough to watch any of it...there are freaks and weirdo's in every facet of life...get used to it.
BB is certainly no exception...but the business of BB, and the sports supp industry, etc is all far removed from any of this shit you're obsessed with...
I find the fact that you spend your time gloating over this more frightening...
the only thing frightning, is that you and you alone are the only one who defends it.
you are full of shit. why do you post here? every time i read one of your posts i lose more respect for you. i can only shake my head now, where as i used to respect you alot
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Your point was addressed in my response....
Why do you refuse to answer as to why you spend your time on a site dedicated the the sport you hate?
because you wont openly address what over HALF the altheletes YOU REPRESENTED do for money
your mislead, quote bullshit, and make shit comparisons but you never follow through with an adequate answer but you still haunt this board and post your shit like 'its only ghey if.........'
you chime in and defend most of athletes you have some kind of business interest with but for the most part we gain no further incite from you when it comes to our questions - just half ass 'tryin to be the funny guy' shit and your clown ass jugglin questions like a jester
'you r point was addressed..............' jesus its like pee wee herman 'i know what you are but what am i'
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because you wont openly address what over HALF the altheletes YOU REPRESENTED do for money
Because HALF isnt even close to accurate..
your mislead, quote bullshit, and make shit comparisons but you never follow through with an adequate answer but you still haunt this board and post your shit like 'its only ghey if.........'
Which I never said, fool...
you chime in and defend most of athletes you have some kind of business interest with but for the most part we gain no further incite from you when it comes to our questions - just half ass 'tryin to be the funny guy' shit and your clown ass jugglin questions like a jester
What kind if insight were you looking for? Ask a legitimate question, I'll b happy to give you an answer...
'you r point was addressed..............' jesus its like pee wee herman 'i know what you are but what am i'
If he (or you) could understand what was written, then you would see that it WAS answered....go back and read it again...comprehension is the key
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Bob just was looking after his own interests taking the athletes rep position, all comes down to the dollar for him.
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Bob just was looking after his own interests taking the athletes rep position, all comes down to the dollar for him.
Good call...every proposal I submitted benefitted those still actice and competing, I'm retired.
It's a non paying position
Come from the Basile school of cluelessness I see?
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Good call...every proposal I submitted benefitted those still actice and competing, I'm retired.
It's a non paying position
Come from the Basile school of cluelessness I see?
Stop being so arrogant Bob, its doing you no favors.....
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Bob I'll give it to you that you are a good sport with this 'internet' thing and you are business minded
its just MANY pros/judges/NPC officials or should i say 'your bros' hold grudges -- MANY of the top guys for years or their whole 'careers'
with that being said and your response to my previous post - I would say you are NOT one of them
you can see when someone is busting balls and you defend yourself adequately -- not like some pros, when a thread starts about them they have to get you to defend them or 'one of their computer bros' but what ends up happening is the true, brownbrown, dirty shit floats to the top and it stains everything THAT PARTICULAR pro had to do with, say a given board, or girls, or town for that matter
props to bob chic for standing up for himself in a composed manner
bob would you ever kick someone out of your gym for posting about you on getbig??
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Bob I'll give it to you that you are a good sport with this 'internet' thing and you are business minded
its just MANY pros/judges/NPC officials or should i say 'your bros' hold grudges -- MANY of the top guys for years or their whole 'careers'
with that being said and your response to my previous post - I would say you are NOT one of them
you can see when someone is busting balls and you defend yourself adequately -- not like some pros, when a thread starts about them they have to get you to defend them or 'one of their computer bros' but what ends up happening is the true, brownbrown, dirty shit floats to the top and it stains everything THAT PARTICULAR pro had to do with, say a given board, or girls, or town for that matter
props to bob chic for standing up for himself in a composed manner
bob would you ever kick someone out of your gym for posting about you on getbig??
Depends on whats being said...people need to be responsible for their own actions as well as their mouth. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as the gym owner is entitled to not have to put up with some goof talking shit in his place of business...
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Depends on whats being said...people need to be responsible for their own actions as well as their mouth. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as the gym owner is entitled to not have to put up with some goof talking shit in his place of business...
Bob, I have been lucky enough to talk with you at various expos , about the "business of BB". While we may not agree on every aspect,it is obvious we both have a passion for BB.
The difference between you , me and most fans is that YOU are "active in the BB industry".
You have to be a lot more practical and deal with the reality of the scene in BB, as it currenly exists.
For example, while it is "ideal"( from a legal,PR view) for the sport to be drug tested, the majority in the sport are 100% against that.
I like your idea to simply try to increase number of fans who attend events. Do that, and you get more ad sales, etc.
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Howard you are going to get an ass full of slivers from sitting on the proverbial fence like you are doing.
How would you know what the majority in the sport want? Why would you use that as an argument? Why not ask what is good for the sport? Then make decisions that is consistent with that.
The problem is that drugs are so widespread and perhaps universal in the professional section that if you were to implement strict testing you would eliminate a lot of bodybuilders. So it isn't going to be easy to change from the current swept under the carpet regime of Manion and Chick but it will have to be done sooner or later. When the Governor of California can run a contest in his name that is not drug tested then you have a situation that is hypocritical. Someone is looking the other way. Your hero Bob C says no one is interested in our sport so what does it matter what the athletes do. That guy should have nothing whatever to do with this sport instead of being the rep and half-assed spokesmen for them.
Why other intelligent people can't see this is a mystery.
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Howard you are going to get an ass full of slivers from sitting on the proverbial fence like you are doing.
How would you know what the majority in the sport want? Why would you use that as an argument? Why not ask what is good for the sport? Then make decisions that is consistent with that.
The problem is that drugs are so widespread and perhaps universal in the professional section that if you were to implement strict testing you would eliminate a lot of bodybuilders. So it isn't going to be easy to change from the current swept under the carpet regime of Manion and Chick but it will have to be done sooner or later. When the Governor of California can run a contest in his name that is not drug tested then you have a situation that is hypocritical. Someone is looking the other way. Your hero Bob C says no one is interested in our sport so what does it matter what the athletes do. That guy should have nothing whatever to do with this sport instead of being the rep and half-assed spokesmen for them.
Why other intelligent people can't see this is a mystery.
Intelligent people dont take pictures of random people and attend strangers funerals....
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Depends on whats being said...people need to be responsible for their own actions as well as their mouth. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as the gym owner is entitled to not have to put up with some goof talking shit in his place of business...
BOB -- LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE READ WHAT I ACTUALLY ASKED
would you kick someone out for what was supposedly said on GETBIG - no shit talking was ever done in the gym
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BOB -- LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE READ WHAT I ACTUALLY ASKED
would you kick someone out for what was supposedly said on GETBIG - no shit talking was ever done in the gym
My answer stands...
Is it "supposedly", or did the alleged say it?
Whats the difference where its said...it was either said or it wasnt...and people should be held accountable.
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BOB -- LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE READ WHAT I ACTUALLY ASKED
would you kick someone out for what was supposedly said on GETBIG - no shit talking was ever done in the gym
He wont even throw someone out for fucking a grapefruit then putting the video on the internet, isnt hard to see what Bob would do in your scenario.
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Intelligent people dont take pictures of random people and attend strangers funerals....
Vince, even you have to admit that was a funny comeback by Bob. C'mon have some fun here, you are a big enough man to do that at least c;mon. :P
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Howard you are going to get an ass full of slivers from sitting on the proverbial fence like you are doing.
How would you know what the majority in the sport want? Why would you use that as an argument? Why not ask what is good for the sport? Then make decisions that is consistent with that.
The problem is that drugs are so widespread and perhaps universal in the professional section that if you were to implement strict testing you would eliminate a lot of bodybuilders. So it isn't going to be easy to change from the current swept under the carpet regime of Manion and Chick but it will have to be done sooner or later. When the Governor of California can run a contest in his name that is not drug tested then you have a situation that is hypocritical. Someone is looking the other way. Your hero Bob C says no one is interested in our sport so what does it matter what the athletes do. That guy should have nothing whatever to do with this sport instead of being the rep and half-assed spokesmen for them.
Why other intelligent people can't see this is a mystery.
Back in 1993 I made a motion on the floor at the NPC SE regional meeting to drug test the winners of the state meets.
In brief it was voted down by a wide margin. Bob has to deal with the situation as it exists and tweek and nudge to make some improvements.As you know most BB's are pretty indepenedent minded and like to do their own thing. It is tough to get them to act as a unified group on much of anything.