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http://www.ifight365.com/2010/05/confirmed-fedor-emelianenko-to-fight-fabricio-werdum-june-26th/
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Can't wait....fight of the year candidate here.
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Fedor taking it easy (1 week ago)
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Does anyone really get excited about this fight ::) When are we going to see him in there with Barnette, JDS, Velaquez, Carwin or Lesnar ??? The dude has about 1-2 yrs left before he starts declining.
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Barnett is probably going to be his next fight in Dream and then he will probably fight Overeem for the SF title and then go to the UFC.
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Does anyone really get excited about this fight ::) When are we going to see him in there with Barnette, JDS, Velaquez, Carwin or Lesnar ??? The dude has about 1-2 yrs left before he starts declining.
You know what's up with Fedor's three fight co promotional contract, so I'm not going to get into that gay bickering like they do on sh*rdog. Yes, I'd like to see Fedor in the UFC, but at this point it is futile to complain about it.
Barnette had his chance and he fucked it up.
The UFC guys you mentioned all have short resumes and have fought unranked guys for the most part, so who's to say how really good they are at this point.
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You know what's up with Fedor's three fight co promotional contract, so I'm not going to get into that gay bickering like they do on sh*rdog. Yes, I'd like to see Fedor in the UFC, but at this point it is futile to complain about it.
Barnette had his chance and he fucked it up.
The UFC guys you mentioned all have short resumes and have fought unranked guys for the most part, so who's to say how really good they are at this point.
Hard to say how good Fedor is CURRENTLY as well...
Werdum is hardly top of the HW division in any ranking either, but he is the best competition Fedor has fought in a couple years.
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The UFC guys you mentioned all have short resumes and have fought unranked guys for the most part, so who's to say how really good they are at this point.
Then they should be no threat to Fedor and make easy paydays for him.
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Hard to say how good Fedor is CURRENTLY as well...
Werdum is hardly top of the HW division in any ranking either, but he is the best competition Fedor has fought in a couple years.
Werdum was next in line for a UFC title shot until Dos Santos KO'd him (Dos Santos will KO everyone). He is a former BJJ world champ, and is dangerous as fuck.
What is Werdum wins? What will the heavyweight rankings be then?
Can you imagine a guy with a 4-1 record who hasnt fought in nearly a year being ranked #1? MMA is a joke.
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Werdum was next in line for a UFC title shot until Dos Santos KO'd him (Dos Santos will KO everyone). He is a former BJJ world champ, and is dangerous as fuck.
What is Werdum wins? What will the heavyweight rankings be then?
Can you imagine a guy with a 4-1 record who hasnt fought in nearly a year being ranked #1? MMA is a joke.
Twist and turn this match-up anyway you want....This fight is meaningless in the HW rankings.
I just hope Fedor takes this fight seriously and doesn't get sloppy.
He needs to keep his record in tact until one of the worlds real HW's can show him how it's done.
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Werdum was next in line for a UFC title shot until Dos Santos KO'd him (Dos Santos will KO everyone). He is a former BJJ world champ, and is dangerous as fuck.
What is Werdum wins? What will the heavyweight rankings be then?
Can you imagine a guy with a 4-1 record who hasnt fought in nearly a year being ranked #1? MMA is a joke.
What you mean like lesnar ?! lol
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Twist and turn this match-up anyway you want....This fight is meaningless in the HW rankings.
I just hope Fedor takes this fight seriously and doesn't get sloppy.
He needs to keep his record in tact until one of the worlds real HW's can show him how it's done.
Werdum is a legit threat to anybody he fights, he's got more wins against tough opponents than the UFC HW champ has fights (he even subbed Fedors Bro.). Styles make fights and I think Werdum's style would probably give Brock bigger problems than it would Fedor.
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Fedor taking it easy (1 week ago)
that guy looks like fedor's hand puppet
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that guy looks like fedor's hand puppet
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We need someone to translate....
I am not 100% sure, but I am pretty confident they are discussing Fedor's last several EASY paydays.
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::) ::)
It kills you inside that he is the best... ;D
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It kills you inside that he is the best... ;D
The best at what....padding his record and destroying his legacy :o
The only other athlete I have ever seen destroy their legacy quicker is Tiger Woods....
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The best at what....padding his record and destroying his legacy :o
The only other athlete I have ever seen destroy their legacy quicker is Tiger Woods....
the fact that you mention his legacy is proof that even you know he is the greatest fighter of all time
only the best ever get the word "legacy" mentioned in a sentence with their name
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the fact that you mention his legacy is proof that even you know he is the greatest fighter of all time
only the best ever get the word "legacy" mentioned in a sentence with their name
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I have said and will say that Fedor is the best HW of all time. Without a doubt.
That being said, if he continues to collect easy paydays, and fight guys that have been shit-canned by the UFC, then it WILL tarnish his legacy.
IMO, the Fedor mystique ended a couple of years ago. He's still winning, just as Michael Jordan is still winning pick up games against High Schoolers. :o
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I have said and will say that Fedor is the best HW of all time. Without a doubt.
That being said, if he continues to collect easy paydays, and fight guys that have been shit-canned by the UFC, then it WILL tarnish his legacy.
IMO, the Fedor mystique ended a couple of years ago. He's still winning, just as Michael Jordan is still winning pick up games against High Schoolers.
so do you think jordan's legacy is tarnished by playing with the wizards, where he couldn't even get them to the playoffs? every average nba team makes the playoffs, he failed
fedor's legacy is already set, it can only be "tarnished" in the eyes of people that want him to fail like you and mindspin, you guys can't wait to tell everybody how "overrated" he was when he finally loses like all fighters do
it's funny how you compare two former ufc cahamps to high schoolers
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so do you think jordan's legacy is tarnished by playing with the wizards, where he couldn't even get them to the playoffs? every average nba team makes the playoffs, he failed
fedor's legacy is already set, it can only be "tarnished" in the eyes of people that want him to fail like you and mindspin, you guys can't wait to tell everybody how "overrated" he was when he finally loses like all fighters do
it's funny how you compare two former ufc cahamps to high schoolers
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When Jordan played for the Wizards he continued to play and compete against the best teams in the world...the NBA. It's not like he started playing euro league or something. He took his decline like a man
What Jordan did is the opposite of that Fedor is doing. Instead of going to the UFC, the biggest MMA org in the world, with the biggest talent base, he chose to go to an amateur style org like Strikeforce where he can continue to look like a star and pad his legacy.
There are much better and tougher fights for Fedor then Werdum. We all know that.
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When Jordan played for the Wizards he continued to play and compete against the best teams in the world...the NBA. It's not like he started playing euro league or something. He took his decline like a man
What Jordan did is the opposite of that Fedor is doing. Instead of going to the UFC, the biggest MMA org in the world, with the biggest talent base, he chose to go to an amateur style org like Strikeforce where he can continue to look like a star and pad his legacy.
There are much better and tougher fights for Fedor then Werdum. We all know that.
are you seriously telling me you will respect fedor more for losing to ufc fighters?
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are you seriously telling me you will respect fedor more for losing to ufc fighters?
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I will respect Fedor more if he fights top ranked guys. Werdum was shit-canned by the UFC and is barely ranked top 10 in most rankings. Look at his last fights....two were UFC rejects as well. How is that earning anyone's respect? He really should just retire if he doesn't want to fight the best.
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werdum actually has a more impressive resume than brock or carwin
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werdum actually has a more impressive resume than brock or carwin
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Why do you think that both Carwin and Lesnar are ranked higher in most rankings then?
Here are some rankings from Sherdog. Funny that the bottom three have been Fedor's most recent fights. Hmmmmmmm :o
Care to explain why a #1 ranked HW is fighting the bottom of the rankings. Another big hmmmmmmmm :o :o
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/2/Sherdog-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-24133 (http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/2/Sherdog-Official-Mixed-Martial-Arts-Rankings-24133)
2. Brock Lesnar (4-1)
While we do not know exactly how Lesnar will look in his return to the cage after his bout with diverticulitis, we do know his foe. Come July 3, he will take on Shane Carwin to unify both halves of the UFC heavyweight mantle in what should be a blockbuster bout for the promotion.
3. Cain Velasquez (8-0)
Whether one wants to call it a passing of the torch or a coming-out party, Velasquez’s performance against Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at UFC 110 was short and brutal. In less than half a round, Velasquez destroyed one of MMA’s most historically outstanding heavyweights in easily his most impressive performance to date.
4. Shane Carwin (12-0)
It took almost four minutes -- an eternity by his usual standards -- but at UFC 111 in Newark, N.J., Carwin blew off Frank Mir’s doors in the first round to claim the UFC interim heavyweight title. However, the real championship will be contested July 3, when Carwin meets Brock Lesnar.
5. Frank Mir (13-5)
Mir entered his March 27 bout with Shane Carwin as a slight betting favorite. However, he looked none the part in the cage, as Carwin bashed him with left hands in the clinch and decimated the former UFC champion to take the promotion’s interim title. With it, he took Mir’s chance for a rubber match with Brock Lesnar.
6. Junior dos Santos (11-1)
Dos Santos’ March 21 bout with Gabriel Gonzaga was supposed to be a sterner test for the hot Brazilian prospect. However, it was business as usual for “Cigano,” who used his boxing ability to turn out the lights on “Napao” and firmly entrench himself in the UFC heavyweight title race.
7. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (32-6-1, 1 NC)
“Minotauro” had an army of backers who felt the former Pride and UFC heavyweight champion would put on a vintage performance against Cain Velasquez at UFC 110. However, post-fight discussion centered on whether or not Nogueira still has the physical tools to hang with young, elite heavyweights after Velasquez polished him off in a little more than two minutes.
8. Brett Rogers (10-1)
Despite the fact that Rogers was taken out by Fedor Emelianenko in November, “The Grim” will get the chance to vie for the Strikeforce heavyweight crown on May 15 in St. Louis. Rogers will take on champion Alistair Overeem, who makes his long-awaited return to the promotion after capturing its heavyweight title in November 2007.
9. Andrei Arlovski (15-7)
The former UFC champion has not seen action since June, when he lasted just 22 seconds against Brett Rogers. However, Arlovski has inked a deal with Strikeforce that will get him back into the cage soon. “The Pitbull” will take on Antonio Silva on May 15 in St. Louis.
10. Fabricio Werdum (13-4-1)
Werdum will have to wait another couple of months to fight for MMA’s heavyweight mantle. He expected to meet heavyweight kingpin Fedor Emelianenko in April, but Emelianenko’s contract dispute with Strikeforce means that “Vai Cavalo” will have to sit pretty until the early summer.
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those rankings mean shit dude. brock lesnar was ranked #5 in the world with a 2-1 record, which removes all validity to the rankings. No other sport would let a 2-1 record holder come anywhere close to the top 20, but mma puts him in the top 5 because the ufc hyped him up.
And as already mentioned, Werdum has a more impressive resume than velasquez, mir, carwin and dos santos. he didnt get shit canned by the ufc, he left on his own after dos santos ko'd him (and for the record I believe dos santos will ko everyone. the dude is a savage.)
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those rankings mean shit dude. brock lesnar was ranked #5 in the world with a 2-1 record, which removes all validity to the rankings. No other sport would let a 2-1 record holder come anywhere close to the top 20, but mma puts him in the top 5 because the ufc hyped him up.
And as already mentioned, Werdum has a more impressive resume than velasquez, mir, carwin and dos santos. he didnt get shit canned by the ufc, he left on his own after dos santos ko'd him (and for the record I believe dos santos will ko everyone. the dude is a savage.)
So the rankings are fixed huh? Why is it that Fedor has been fighting the bottom ranked guys?
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So the rankings are fixed huh? Why is it that Fedor has been fighting the bottom ranked guys?
You need to change your name to WafflePSHR. You flip more than Gladys & Rons Chicken n Waffles.
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Fedor taking it easy (1 week ago)
Good old Igor Vov! Wonder what he is doing these days (other than drinking vodka with Fedor). He was a badass. I would pick him to destroy Fedor in a street fight any time!
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You need to change your name to WafflePSHR. You flip more than Gladys & Rons Chicken n Waffles.
Flip on what? The fact that it's apparent Fedor likes to fight guys that have been shit-canned by the UFC?
I can assure you, my opinions have not wavered even the slightest.
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Flip on what? The fact that it's apparent Fedor likes to fight guys that have been shit-canned by the UFC?
I can assure you, my opinions have not wavered even the slightest.
tim sylvia was ranked #2 in the world when Fedor fought him
andre arlovski was ranked #3 in the world when Fedor fought him.
Ok brett rogers you got me there, he wasnt in the top 10 I dont think when he fought Fedor. He is dangerous though no doubt about that. He did KO lesnar in sparring.
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tim sylvia was ranked #2 in the world when Fedor fought him
andre arlovski was ranked #3 in the world when Fedor fought him.
Ok brett rogers you got me there, he wasnt in the top 10 I dont think when he fought Fedor. He is dangerous though no doubt about that. He did KO lesnar in sparring.
Sylvia and Arvloski were at the time, ranked higher then they are now...but let's be honest, they were ranked high because of the lack of talent in the HW division at the time.
KO'ing someone in sparring is meaningless....Happens all the time ::)
Besides post me proof that it ever happened. Its all just internet rumors anyways.
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Sylvia and Arvloski were at the time, ranked higher then they are now...but let's be honest, they were ranked high because of the lack of talent in the HW division at the time.
KO'ing someone in sparring is meaningless....Happens all the time ::)
Besides post me proof that it ever happened. Its all just internet rumors anyways.
The talent has gotten worse since they were ranked that high. A WWE wrestler with 5 fights against cans and washed up fogies under his belt is considered the #2 HW right now. Loads of talent! ::)
You can spin it all you want in retrospect, but Fedor decimated two fighters considered among the 3 best in the HW division at the time he fought them.
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The talent has gotten worse since they were ranked that high. A WWE wrestler with 5 fights against cans and washed up fogies under his belt is considered the #2 HW right now. Loads of talent! ::)
You can spin it all you want in retrospect, but Fedor decimated two fighters considered among the 3 best in the HW division at the time he fought them.
The talent has gotten worse in the HW division...are you serious?
Randy demolished Tim Sylvia too around the same time. That speaks for itself.
Like I said before, Fedor was smart for fighting the guys when they were fresh off their shit-canning from the UFC. Their rankings were high at the time because overall the HW division in MMA was mediocre.
I will admit, Werdum is the best talent Fedor had fought in a while, but that is not really saying much.
Fedor sure loves himself some UFC shit-canned rejects ;D
Easy paydays for sure. Can't blame him for wanting easy money.
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The talent has gotten worse since they were ranked that high. A WWE wrestler with 5 fights against cans and washed up fogies under his belt is considered the #2 HW right now. Loads of talent! ::)
You can spin it all you want in retrospect, but Fedor decimated two fighters considered among the 3 best in the HW division at the time he fought them.
Fedor is afraid to come to the UFC. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it.
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What would he be afraid of? There is more talent outside the UFC HW division than in it right now. Unless you consider untested fighters and a guy who has been knocked out by that Rogers "can" 3x in sparring as formidable challenges to The Last Emperor.
Fact: Fedor has fought more top 10 HWs in the last 5 years than any other HW fighter in MMA.
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What would he be afraid of? There is more talent outside the UFC HW division than in it right now. Unless you consider untested fighters and a guy who has been knocked out by that Rogers "can" 3x in sparring as formidable challenges to The Last Emperor.
Fact: Fedor has fought more top 10 HWs in the last 5 years than any other HW fighter in MMA.
On brother...not this shit again ::) Please provide evidence...any evidence...that Rogers has knocked out Lesnar, or I will have to ban your ass again. :-\
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What would he be afraid of? There is more talent outside the UFC HW division than in it right now. Unless you consider untested fighters and a guy who has been knocked out by that Rogers "can" 3x in sparring as formidable challenges to The Last Emperor.
Fact: Fedor has fought more top 10 HWs in the last 5 years than any other HW fighter in MMA.
I'll tell you exactly what Fedor is aftaid of:
Guys that weigh 280+ lbs in the cage that are not fat, or 7'2 freak show fights.
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On brother...not this shit again ::) Please provide evidence...any evidence...that Rogers has knocked out Lesnar, or I will have to ban your ass again. :-\
Let me dig that right up.
I'll provide evidence when you back up your claims of Pride fights being fixed. Been waiting on that for almost two years now. Let's cut the bullshit, you're a chronic liar. ::)
Not that I'll be missing much. All I see is the UFC fanboys getting their asses handed to them in just about every thread. :-X
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Let me dig that right up.
I'll provide evidence when you back up your claims of Pride fights being fixed. Been waiting on that for almost two years now. Let's cut the bullshit, you're a chronic liar. ::)
Not that I'll be missing much. All I see is the UFC fanboys getting their asses handed to them in just about every thread. :-X
When you have to post internet rumors repeatedly, plus the only comeback you have involves 'dick N ball' talk, it leads me to think you haven't watched an MMA event since 2003, or if ever.
Why do you even claim that Rodgers KO'd Lesnar anyways? Even if it did happen, it was sparring. Happens all the time.
I 100% guarantee you don't have proof. That makes you a liar. right? :o :o
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Let me dig that right up.
I'll provide evidence when you back up your claims of Pride fights being fixed. Been waiting on that for almost two years now. Let's cut the bullshit, you're a chronic liar. ::)
Not that I'll be missing much. All I see is the UFC fanboys getting their asses handed to them in just about every thread. :-X
Me speculating that Pride fights were fixed is a lot different than you stating an erroneous fact. Even a cuckold little quif like you should understand the difference...
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Like I said before, Fedor was smart for fighting the guys when they were fresh off their shit-canning from the UFC. Their rankings were high at the time because overall the HW division in MMA was mediocre.
Dude, you dont know shit about what you are talking about. Arlovski was on a 3 fight win streak when he LEFT the ufc to fight Fedor.
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Dude, you dont know shit about what you are talking about. Arlovski was on a 3 fight win streak when he LEFT the ufc to fight Fedor.
LOL! Just a slight correction, but it was actually a 5 fight win streak. Either way, hardly qualifies him as a "can" and the rankings at the time support that. :)
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Dude, you dont know shit about what you are talking about. Arlovski was on a 3 fight win streak when he LEFT the ufc to fight Fedor.
He didn't leave the UFC to fight Fedor. He had two fights outside the UFC before he fought Fedor.
He was also recently defeated by Tim Sylvia soon before he was not re-signed with the UFC.
Another thing to note....It appears that Fedor likes to fight guys that his previous opponent has already defeated.
Example:
Fights Tim Sylvia, then fights Arvloski who Sylvia has beat TWICE.
Now he is fighting Werdum, a guy that Arvloski beat already.
Yea...Fedor sure is fighting the best :o
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I love when these little cum stains think they have some great fact that turns out to be completely wrong. Constant selfownage...lol
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LOL! Just a slight correction, but it was actually a 5 fight win streak. Either way, hardly qualifies him as a "can" and the rankings at the time support that. :)
Tim Sylvia beat Arvloski TWICE.
Then Fedor wants to fight Arvloski when Sylvia, a guy Fedor demolished, has already beaten him.
Well, then I guess Werdum is right up his alley, because Arvloski, a guy Fedor has already beat, defeated Werdum.
If that is not an easy, gimme fight, I don't know what is?
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He was on a 5 fight win streak and ranked as a top 3 HW at the time he fought Fedor. ::)
There was an article posted on here showing that Fedor has fought more top 10 HWs in the last 5 years than any other HW alive. I know it stings but you need to get it over, fanboy.
Tim Sylvia beat Arvloski TWICE.
Then Fedor wants to fight Arvloski when Sylvia, a guy Fedor demolished, has already beaten him.
Well, then I guess Werdum is right up his alley, because Arvloski, a guy Fedor has already beat, defeated Werdum.
If that is not an easy, gimme fight, I don't know what is?
Who should he have fought at the time, fucktard? Arlovski was ranked as a top 5 HW at the time of the Fedor fight. Is that hard for you to comprehend? Is it because you've got Dana White's spunk in your eyes?
I love when these little cum stains think they have some great fact that turns out to be completely wrong. Constant selfownage...lol
Self-ownage would be calling a top 5 HW on a 5 fight win streak a can like your butt buddy just did. :-X
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He was on a 5 fight win streak and ranked as a top 3 HW at the time he fought Fedor. ::)
There was an article posted on here showing that Fedor has fought more top 10 HWs in the last 5 years than any other HW alive. I know it stings but you need to get it over, fanboy.
Who should he have fought at the time, fucktard? Arlovski was ranked as a top 5 HW at the time of the Fedor fight. Is that hard for you to comprehend? Is it because you've got Dana White's spunk in your eyes?
Why is Fedor not fighting top guys now?
I'll tell you....he's afraid of the new breed of HW. 280+ lbs in the cage.
That is why Fedor is afraid. Can't blame him.
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Brett Rogers is a top 10 HW, maybe even top 5 at this point. Werdum = top 10 HW. ::)
The UFC HW division = terrible. Hope this helps. :)
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Brett Rogers is a top 10 HW, maybe even top 5 at this point. Werdum = top 10 HW. ::)
The UFC HW division = terrible. Hope this helps. :)
Well, you are entitled to your opinion, wrong as it may be. The fact of the matter is that there are more top 10 heavy's in the UFC than all other orgs combined. Oh, and let's not forget the other weight classes. All, without exception, have a UFC athlete as the #1 ranked. Where's all the great Pride guys? How come they haven't taken over the other weight classes? Ha ha! Life is too good to me :D
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Brett Rogers is a top 10 HW, maybe even top 5 at this point. Werdum = top 10 HW. ::)
The UFC HW division = terrible. Hope this helps. :)
I'll be a little more clear.
Why do you think Fedor is not fighting the current top 3? Don't you think a guy that is ranked #1 should be fighting the next best guy in the rankings?
His next fight is against a guy that is barely top 10?
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His management doesn't want him anywhere near Lesner, Carwin or Cain. They know the gravy will end.
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Well, you are entitled to your opinion, wrong as it may be. The fact of the matter is that there are more top 10 heavy's in the UFC than all other orgs combined. Oh, and let's not forget the other weight classes. All, without exception, have a UFC athlete as the #1 ranked. Where's all the great Pride guys? How come they haven't taken over the other weight classes? Ha ha! Life is too good to me :D
Do you even read what you type or are you just consistently lying because you're incapable of arguing your point? :-*
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I'll be a little more clear.
Why do you think Fedor is not fighting the current top 3? Don't you think a guy that is ranked #1 should be fighting the next best guy in the rankings?
His next fight is against a guy that is barely top 10?
Who is considered the top 3? Right now, it goes Fedor, Overeem, Barnett in my book. None of which are UFC fighters.
Why doesn't Brock, Carwin or Velasquez fight top 3 fighters every single fight? Not one of them has fought a top 3 fighter yet. Shit, the best fighter Carwin has fought is Frank Mir, who isn't even a top 20 HW at this point. Brock fights washed up cans. Velasquez is the only one who has fought anyone decent, but Big Nog is far from a top 3 HW at this point in his career. ;)
And that is why you're a fucking retard. :)
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Who is considered the top 3? Right now, it goes Fedor, Overeem, Barnett in my book. None of which are UFC fighters.
Why doesn't Brock, Carwin or Velasquez fight top 3 fighters every single fight? Not one of them has fought a top 3 fighter yet. Shit, the best fighter Carwin has fought is Frank Mir, who isn't even a top 20 HW at this point. Brock fights washed up cans. Velasquez is the only one who has fought anyone decent, but Big Nog is far from a top 3 HW at this point in his career. ;)
And that is why you're a fucking retard. :)
Dodging the question once again....
Carwin, Brock, and Lesnar are not ranked #1 are they. That is what they are determining now by Lesnar/Carwin fighting and the winner will fight JDS or Velazquez.
Your book doesn't count in rankings. Nice try.
You have resorted to calling out the rankings by your book= You have been officially exposed :o :o
My point has been proven.
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Dodging the question once again....
Carwin, Brock, and Lesnar are not ranked #1 are they. That is what they are determining now by Lesnar/Carwin fighting and the winner will fight JDS or Velazquez.
Your book doesn't count in rankings. Nice try.
You have resorted to calling out the rankings by your book= You have been officially exposed :o :o
My point has been proven.
Your entire post makes no sense. The rankings according to who? You? Brock and Carwin and Lesnar (LOL!) are fighting for #1? No, they're fighting for #1 in the UFC, which doesn't mean anything these days thanks to the joke that is the HW division. ;)
Again, you are a fucking retard. Thank you continuing to prove this.
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;D @ this thread.
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;D @ this thread.
Some of these delusional Fedor fans will never learn...
Wouldn't it be funny if Werdum KO'd Fedor?
What would we argue about on here?
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Dodging the question once again....
Carwin, Brock, and Lesnar are not ranked #1 are they. That is what they are determining now by Lesnar/Carwin fighting and the winner will fight JDS or Velazquez.
Your book doesn't count in rankings. Nice try.
You have resorted to calling out the rankings by your book= You have been officially exposed :o :o
My point has been proven.
Dude, are you that much of a newb that you don't realize Brock and Lesnar is one guy? lol. JDS is gonna fight Roy Nelson and then lose, then you're gonna be butthurt because an Elite XC reject (who was destroyed by Arlovski) will have sucked a big portion of the hype surrounding your invincible UFC HW division.
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Dude, are you that much of a newb that you don't realize Brock and Lesnar is one guy? lol. JDS is gonna fight Roy Nelson and then lose, then you're gonna be butthurt because an Elite XC reject (who was destroyed by Arlovski) will have sucked a big portion of the hype surrounding your invincible UFC HW division.
We will always have Lesnar,Carwin and Velazquez.
JDS and Nelson have a ways to go to be on either of those guys level.
How can a guy be an Elite XC reject when the org was put out of business?
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I think WeightPHSR is a Cockspin gimmick to be honest.
Any of the UFC guys are free to go to strikeforce and fight Fedor. He isnt going to run. If they are confident they would win, they would go make the move and do it. They dont want to go to strikeforce and then get KOd by Fedor, because all their hype would be gone. If they want the #1 ranking in the world, they have to go and take it.
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I think WeightPHSR is a Cockspin gimmick to be honest.
Any of the UFC guys are free to go to strikeforce and fight Fedor. He isnt going to run. If they are confident they would win, they would go make the move and do it. They dont want to go to strikeforce and then get KOd by Fedor, because all their hype would be gone. If they want the #1 ranking in the world, they have to go and take it.
Why in the world would anyone leave a top notch org like the UFC to go fight a washed up overated HW in a struggling org full of thugs and super-twinks?
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Weights last comment effectively proves that 90% of this board has forgotten more about MMA than he will ever know.
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Weights last comment effectively proves that 90% of this board has forgotten more about MMA than he will ever know.
You forgot the name of Sakara...the guy that Irvin fought with the eye strike that was mistaken as a poke :o
This fight was about two months ago. Damn...short term memory loss?
Don't think you have much room to talk.
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Yes, I forgot the exact name of a journeyman fighter from Europe with a shitty UFC record who fought 2 months ago, therefore I don't know about MMA. ::)
Misspelling/ mispronouncing a fighters name demonstrates that you know nothing about fighting. I apologize.
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Yes, I forgot the exact name of a journeyman fighter from Europe with a shitty UFC record who fought 2 months ago, therefore I don't know about MMA. ::)
Misspelling/ mispronouncing a fighters name demonstrates that you know nothing about fighting. I apologize.
I was just pointing out your shortcomings....thats all.
A typo or misreading is one thing, but please realize....You may not like my point of view, but trust me, I know my MMA.
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I think WeightPHSR is a Cockspin gimmick to be honest.
Any of the UFC guys are free to go to strikeforce and fight Fedor. He isnt going to run. If they are confident they would win, they would go make the move and do it. They dont want to go to strikeforce and then get KOd by Fedor, because all their hype would be gone. If they want the #1 ranking in the world, they have to go and take it.
I've been convinced that he's a Cockspin gimmick for a while.
And you made a great point. If these UFC chumps were actually concerned with proving themselves, they would go to Fedor. He's the King of the castle. Anyone who thinks their better than him would go to him and not the other way around. Fedor has nothing to prove and his legacy is long sealed while Lesnar, Carwin and Velasquez have everything to prove. It really seems like they're only concerned with the payday and not proving that they're the best fighter in the HW division.
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I've been convinced that he's a Cockspin gimmick for a while.
And you made a great point. If these UFC chumps were actually concerned with proving themselves, they would go to Fedor. He's the King of the castle. Anyone who thinks their better than him would go to him and not the other way around. Fedor has nothing to prove and his legacy is long sealed while Lesnar, Carwin and Velasquez have everything to prove. It really seems like they're only concerned with the payday and not proving that they're the best fighter in the HW division.
Why would anyone, fighting in the major leagues of MMA, leave the bigger paydays, and job security that it allows, to go fight some washed up, over rated HW in an org that is barely surviving?
You tend to forget... most of these guys do fight for a living. Money and job security usually comes before anything else.
Can you blame them?
I can assure you that I am not a MS gimmick.
Don't be confused because I school you clowns daily, just as he's been for doing for years ;D They didn't make him a mod on here for no reason.
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I've been convinced that he's a Cockspin gimmick for a while.
And you made a great point. If these UFC chumps were actually concerned with proving themselves, they would go to Fedor. He's the King of the castle. Anyone who thinks their better than him would go to him and not the other way around. Fedor has nothing to prove and his legacy is long sealed while Lesnar, Carwin and Velasquez have everything to prove. It really seems like they're only concerned with the payday and not proving that they're the best fighter in the HW division.
That post right there shows how fucking stupid you are. I'm debating with a retarded 5 year old...shame on me :-\
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I've been convinced that he's a Cockspin gimmick for a while.
And you made a great point. If these UFC chumps were actually concerned with proving themselves, they would go to Fedor. He's the King of the castle. Anyone who thinks their better than him would go to him and not the other way around. Fedor has nothing to prove and his legacy is long sealed while Lesnar, Carwin and Velasquez have everything to prove. It really seems like they're only concerned with the payday and not proving that they're the best fighter in the HW division.
no shit man. if any of those guys mentioned want to be #1 in the world, go to Fedor and take it from him. Its that simple. When you are at the top of the mountain people climb it to get to you, you dont move down to meet them halfway.
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no shit man. if any of those guys mentioned want to be #1 in the world, go to Fedor and take it from him. Its that simple. When you are at the top of the mountain people climb it to get to you, you dont move down to meet them halfway.
Epic logic right there! You act like these guys fight for free.
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Epic logic right there! You act like these guys fight for free.
If they left the UFC, went to strikeforce and KO'd Fedor, you know Dana would hire them back in an instant with atleast double the pay. But they arent going to risk it. They know there is atleast a 75% chance Fedor would win.
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Epic logic right there! You act like these guys fight for free.
If they were concerned with being the #1 HW in the world, they would go and fight Fedor. Fact of the matter is that they're dodging Fedor by not doing so.
And I bet Strikeforce would match Lesnar's pay in the UFC for a Fedor fight.
Lesnar, Carwin, Velasquez = afraid of Fedor. Hell, Carwin has already conceded defeat to Fedor and they aren't even scheduled to fight. LOL.
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Even if they were stupid enough to leave the UFC to fight Fedor, it's no guarantee that it would happen. Look at what happened when Randy tried it. Also, I'll bet my left nut that Fedor would still dodge them, just like he's dodging Alistar.
Bottom line, the best in every weight class is in the UFC. No other org comes close. If Fedor wants to be considered the true best, then he knows what he needs to do.
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If they were concerned with being the #1 HW in the world, they would go and fight Fedor. Fact of the matter is that they're dodging Fedor by not doing so.
And I bet Strikeforce would match Lesnar's pay in the UFC for a Fedor fight.
Lesnar, Carwin, Velasquez = afraid of Fedor. Hell, Carwin has already conceded defeat to Fedor and they aren't even scheduled to fight. LOL.
Damn you chumps on here really like to twist things around don't you?
Here is what Carwin ACTUALLY said about Fedor back in March, before the Mir fight:
http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2010/0317/486193/shane-carwin/ (http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2010/0317/486193/shane-carwin/)
Just like any other top heavyweight, Carwin was asked how he thought he would fare against arguably the best heavyweight of all time in Fedor Emelianenko.
"Hard to say [how I would matchup against Fedor] he is the elite. I think I would like 6-12 months of more training to face him. Right now I would have a puncher's chance," Carwin responded.
He also went on to say that he'd be willing to fight elsewhere if it would grant him the opportunity to fight someone of Fedor's caliber.
"I love competing so where ever that takes me," the heavy handed heavyweight continued.
With the biggest fight of his career less than two weeks away, Carwin could very well put himself in the same conversation as Fedor Emelianenko if he leaves the Octagon successful on the March 27th.
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Some of these delusional Fedor fans will never learn...
Wouldn't it be funny if Werdum KO'd Fedor?
What would we argue about on here?
like i said all along, you will tell everybody how "overrated" he was even though every fighter has lost ::)
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Even if they were stupid enough to leave the UFC to fight Fedor, it's no guarantee that it would happen. Look at what happened when Randy tried it. Also, I'll bet my left nut that Fedor would still dodge them, just like he's dodging Alistar.
Bottom line, the best in every weight class is in the UFC. No other org comes close. If Fedor wants to be considered the true best, then he knows what he needs to do.
he already is considered the best, he just isn't to you ::)
and how laughable is a fedor/randy fight today? heck it was laughable then
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like i said all along, you will tell everybody how "overrated" he was even though every fighter has lost ::)
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QFT
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QFT
Bracing yourself for a loss huh?
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Bracing yourself for a loss huh?
all fighters eventually lose and the longer fedor fights the more likely it is to happen
fedor haters like yourself will conveniently "forget" that he dominated the sport for years and had a win streak greater than any fighter in mma history ::)
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all fighters eventually lose and the longer fedor fights the more likely it is to happen
fedor haters like yourself will conveniently "forget" that he dominated the sport for years and had a win streak greater than any fighter in mma history ::)
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He USED to dominate the sport for years....That still does not give him a pass to fight UFC rejects that are barely top 10 ranked and still keep his #1 rankings.
I am not arguing about what Fedor HAS accomplished, but he needs to step up his level of competition and take his beatings like a man.
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How can he step up his level of competition when he fights a top 10 HW every time he fights? Brock has yet to fight a top 10 HW. Carwin has yet to fight a top 10 HW. Velasquez fought one top 10 HW 5 years past his prime.
Wipe the Dana splooge out of your eyes, fanboy.
Someone needs to post the article showing that Fedor has fought more quality opponents than any other HW in the last few years.
The UFC HW division is such a joke that more of the talent lies outside of it than in. Unless of course you consider untested WWE wrestlers with 4-1 records as talent. Oh wait, of course you do. ::)
Fedor beat two UFC HW champions in a combined 60 seconds. LOL!!!!!!!!
Is Yemeni so desperate for support on this topic that he'll post on a gimmick account to back himself up? Looks that way. :-\
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How can he step up his level of competition when he fights a top 10 HW every time he fights? Brock has yet to fight a top 10 HW. Carwin has yet to fight a top 10 HW. Velasquez fought one top 10 HW 5 years past his prime.
Wipe the Dana splooge out of your eyes, fanboy.
Someone needs to post the article showing that Fedor has fought more quality opponents than any other HW in the last few years.
The UFC HW division is such a joke that more of the talent lies outside of it than in. Unless of course you consider untested WWE wrestlers with 4-1 records as talent. Oh wait, of course you do. ::)
Fedor beat two UFC HW champions in a combined 60 seconds. LOL!!!!!!!!
Is Yemeni so desperate for support on this topic that he'll post on a gimmick account to back himself up? Looks that way. :-\
Right on cue with the Dick N Ball talk.
This is 2010...
Wonder what yours and Fedor's excuse will be when when Strikeforce folds.
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Right on cue with the Dick N Ball talk.
This is 2010...
Wonder what yours and Fedor's excuse will be when when Strikeforce folds.
Fedor could retire today and go down as the greatest MMA fighter to ever live and 99.99% people would acknowledge him as that. :)
Interestingly enough, Fedor has never had to fake an illness to dodge a fight.
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He USED to dominate the sport for years....That still does not give him a pass to fight UFC rejects that are barely top 10 ranked and still keep his #1 rankings.
I am not arguing about what Fedor HAS accomplished, but he needs to step up his level of competition and take his beatings like a man.
what top competition has brock faced?
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what top competition has brock faced?
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None whatsoever. He has yet to fight someone who isn't a can or 5 years past their prime. He was scheduled to but then he faked an illness and dodged the fight because he knew he wasn't ready.
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the best fighter cock chestnar has ever fought is frank mir, which isnt saying much.
mir is a bum who cant make it to the 3rd round w/o gassing
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None whatsoever. He has yet to fight someone who isn't a can or 5 years past their prime. He was scheduled to but then he faked an illness and dodged the fight because he knew he wasn't ready.
You better be prepared to show a source for that comment of faking an illness. Pretty pathetic when all you can do is make shit up and reference dick N ball talk in every post.
You have been bitch slapped about this before. :o
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what top competition has brock faced?
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I will be the first guy to say I dislike Brock, but he has been impressive in his short MMA career. hard to discredit him. The rankings sure haven't.
I personally think Carwin is better, but you also have to realize that there are MANY guys in the UFC HW division that would
demolish Fedor.
Brock should not be your only focus.
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the best fighter cock chestnar has ever fought is frank mir, which isnt saying much.
mir is a bum who cant make it to the 3rd round w/o gassing
That being said...there are MANY guys in the UFC HW division that would destroy Fedor.
Brock is not the only one....don't know why everyone focuses on him?
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I will be the first guy to say I dislike Brock, but he has been impressive in his short career.
I personally think Carwin is better, but you also have to realize that there are MANY guys in the UFC HW division that would
demolish Fedor.
Brock should not be your only focus.
Got any proof of this or are you talking out of your ass again? Brock, Carwin and Velasquez are arguably the 3 best UFC HWs right now and they are all untested, unproven fighters who have yet to fight any legitimate top 10 HW. More blatant lies from the TUF fanboy who has Dana's dick in his mouth 24 hours a day. ::)
Even Carwin has admitted that he stands no chance against Fedor and you think he's the best fighter in the UFC HW division. So who exactly are these "MANY" guys that would "DEMOLISH" Fedor, as you claim? ::)
You show how little you know about MMA whenever you get backed into a corner. It's amusing.
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Got any proof of this or are you talking out of your ass again? Brock, Carwin and Velasquez are arguably the 3 best UFC HWs right now and they are all untested, unproven fighters who have yet to fight any legitimate top 10 HW. More blatant lies from the TUF fanboy who has Dana's dick in his mouth 24 hours a day. ::)
Even Carwin has admitted that he stands no chance against Fedor and you think he's the best fighter in the UFC HW division. So who exactly are these "MANY" guys that would "DEMOLISH" Fedor, as you claim? ::)
You show how little you know about MMA whenever you get backed into a corner. It's amusing.
What part of "I personally think" do you not understand? It is an opinion, as I stated.
You stated Brock fakes an illness, you didn't say "I think"... Where's you proof? I think you are looking at a banning this time...LOL! HAHAHAHAHA
I always know I put an owning on you when you lie and bring out the Dick N Ball talk :o
Another thing...Do you really have to twist what Carwin said. I already schooled you on that too! Here it is again:
Here is what Carwin ACTUALLY said about Fedor back in March, before the Mir fight:
http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2010/0317/486193/shane-carwin/ (http://www.fightline.com/fl/news/2010/0317/486193/shane-carwin/)
Just like any other top heavyweight, Carwin was asked how he thought he would fare against arguably the best heavyweight of all time in Fedor Emelianenko.
"Hard to say [how I would matchup against Fedor] he is the elite. I think I would like 6-12 months of more training to face him. Right now I would have a puncher's chance," Carwin responded.
He also went on to say that he'd be willing to fight elsewhere if it would grant him the opportunity to fight someone of Fedor's caliber.
"I love competing so where ever that takes me," the heavy handed heavyweight continued.
With the biggest fight of his career less than two weeks away, Carwin could very well put himself in the same conversation as Fedor Emelianenko if he leaves the Octagon successful on the March 27th.
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who did carwin beat?
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who did carwin beat?
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A lot better guys then Werdum.
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Less than a month after he was on the verge of death, lost 40 pounds or whatever else happened to him due to a rare, almost unheard of illness, the guy looked to be back 100% health. Even has the strength to blow on that horn like he did mere hours after backing out of the Carwin fight. Not only that, Dana threw him under the bus when he said that Brock sounded 100% fine when he spoke to him on the phone. Now one would think that a guy that was as deathly ill as Brock was, a guy that was so sick that his entire fighting career was supposedly jeopardized, would not have made a 100% recovery in 3 short weeks.
"White further said Lesnar told him he is not sure if he could fight in January. I asked if Lesnar sounded ill when they spoke and he said no. White said he had breakfast with Lesnar in Las Vegas about a month ago and said Lesnar told him at that time he wanted to fight frequently. Something doesn’t add up here and this bears further watching."
-From Kevin Iole
Now let's look at this objectively (aka not through the cum-drenched eyes of WeightPSHR aka Mindspin), why would they be so secretive about Brock's illness? Why did he appear to be 100% fine not even 3 weeks after he got sick? Why would he still not take the fight when fighting sick, injured or unprepared is what most guys do? This whole situation was bullshit from day one and screams "faked illness to avoid the inevitable loss". Dana and Brock concocted some rare, life-threatening illness to keep their cash cow going. Let's cut the bullshit, Carwin is in nowhere near as marketable as Brock is. Of course they're going to do everything they can to keep that cash cow going.
Ken Shamrock fought with a torn ACL and could barely stand. Overeem fought with a fucked up neck that could have gotten him paralyzed. Arona fought with the flu and after having been hooked up to an IV the entire day. The list of guys fighting injured, ill or unprepared is a mile long. This is what they do. That's what separates the tough fighters from the pretenders. No one except Brock expects to go into a fight 100% healthy and prepared. Brock was absolutely fine and couldn't fight Carwin because he wasn't prepared so he faked an illness. In terms of MMA fighters, he is a gigantic pussy and a chump.
Edit: And Carwin's 2 best wins are over Frank Mir (horrendous can) and Gabriel Gonzaga (who Werdum also beat and is another horrendous can). You are delusional if you think he's beaten anyone of substance but it's not surprising given the fact that you're a fucking retard. You should just shut up now. :)
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A lot better guys then Werdum.
so why haven't you named names?
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so why haven't you named names?
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Frank Mir is their barometer
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Frank Mir is their barometer
perhaps fedor should fight brandon vera to prove himself to ufc nuthuggers?
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perhaps fedor should fight brandon vera to prove himself to ufc nuthuggers?
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They are all secretly wet for Overeem Rodgers
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perhaps fedor should fight brandon vera to prove himself to ufc nuthuggers?
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hahaha yeah, Mir got fucking tooled by Vera. Complete chump.
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if brock was faking an illness it wouldnt have been to avoid fighting people thats balls, he probably needed top run a short cycle and needed the time to get the test out of his system.
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so why haven't you named names?
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You do know that Werdum got beat by Arvloski right?
You do know that Fedor beat Arvloski right?
Case closed on this one.
Just proved to you chumps that Fedor has a padded record.
Wonder what his next fight will be...maybe he can fight 185lb Lindland again, and cheat his way to victory once aggin by holding the ropes.
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You do know that Werdum got beat by Arvloski right?
You do know that Fedor beat Arvloski right?
Case closed on this one.
Just proved to you chumps that Fedor has a padded record.
Wonder what his next fight will be...maybe he can fight 185lb Lindland again, and cheat his way to victory once aggin by holding the ropes.
you proved that you can't name a top fighter that brock or carwin beat ::)
fedor will never be good enough for you because he isn't under ufc contract, he takes one punch to the nose from rodgers and in your mind he was "close to losing"
it really doesn't matter, anybody that is anybody in the business will tell you fedor is the best fighter ever
sooner or later though, i'm sure you will finally get the chance to tell everybody how "overrated" he was ::)
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you proved that you can't name a top fighter that brock or carwin beat ::)
fedor will never be good enough for you because he isn't under ufc contract, he takes one punch to the nose from rodgers and in your mind he was "close to losing"
it really doesn't matter, anybody that is anybody in the business will tell you fedor is the best fighter ever
sooner or later though, i'm sure you will finally get the chance to tell everybody how "overrated" he was ::)
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Fedor is the best HW ever. That does not mean he is the CURRENT best HW.
At this point in his career, he has limited himself to fighting guys that the UFC has shit-canned and that is just the way he wants it.
I don't need any chance to tell you that Fedor is overrated.
I will tell you now...Fedor is 100% overrated. All he is doing at this point is disgracing his legacy.
I don't need him to lose to tell you that.
If anything, Fedor has earned a little of my respect by dodging the UFC, because he is not letting his ego get in the way.
He's being honest with himself, and honoring his fears of the 280+ lb behemoths in the UFC that would destroy him. :o
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Who is the best HW then? Because Fedor's last 3 fights have been against top 5 HWs. Brock, Carwin and Velasquez have yet to fight ONE top 10 HW between the 3 of them. There is no one in the UFC that can lay claim to being the best HW because they are not fighting top competition. They are fighting cans that dick sucking fanboys like yourself think are good, but the rankings say otherwise.
Name one legitimate fighter than any of them have fought. You keep avoiding that because the only guy who has fought anyone remotely decent is Velasquez fighting a Big Nog 5 years past his prime.
Arlovski was ranked #2 in the world by Sherdog at the time of the Fedor fight. He lost in 30 seconds. Can't claim a guy is dodging top competition when he is fighting the guy ranked #2 in the world by the premier MMA news sites. And no, you do not know more than the people at Sherdog. I hardly call that and the fact that he has fought 3 top 10 HWs since the start of 2009. No other HW fighter can even make that claim. ;)
Really, if you were capable of proving your point by now you wouldn't have wasted time typing up multiple 15 line posts making excuses. Either name names or shut the fuck up. :-*
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Wow, bezerk, take it easy on the ufc cum sippers, its starting to get embarassing.
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Wow, bezerk, take it easy on the ufc cum sippers, its starting to get embarassing.
Why is it that the only rebuttal that any of you chumps have on here is Dick N ball talk?
Is that really all you got? I am serious. Don't let me in your head enough to put Dick N Ball on the forefront of your mind like the rest.
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Who is the best HW then? Because Fedor's last 3 fights have been against top 5 HWs. Brock, Carwin and Velasquez have yet to fight ONE top 10 HW between the 3 of them. There is no one in the UFC that can lay claim to being the best HW because they are not fighting top competition. They are fighting cans that dick sucking fanboys like yourself think are good, but the rankings say otherwise.
Name one legitimate fighter than any of them have fought. You keep avoiding that because the only guy who has fought anyone remotely decent is Velasquez fighting a Big Nog 5 years past his prime.
Arlovski was ranked #2 in the world by Sherdog at the time of the Fedor fight. He lost in 30 seconds. Can't claim a guy is dodging top competition when he is fighting the guy ranked #2 in the world by the premier MMA news sites. And no, you do not know more than the people at Sherdog. I hardly call that and the fact that he has fought 3 top 10 HWs since the start of 2009. No other HW fighter can even make that claim. ;)
Really, if you were capable of proving your point by now you wouldn't have wasted time typing up multiple 15 line posts making excuses. Either name names or shut the fuck up. :-*
Anyone of the current 5 top ranked HW would demolish Fedor.
Now calm down.
Even your buddies on here are telling you to calm down.
Seriously, this is just the internet.
Calm down and quit being so mad at yourself for getting upset with me :o
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He was asking me to take it easy on you because you are just embarrassing yourself now. Two posts in a row and you've yet to name a single name or present a suitable case for why they would beat Fedor. Game. Set. Match. ;)
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He was asking me to take it easy on you because you are just embarrassing yourself now. Two posts in a row and you've yet to name a single name or present a suitable case for why they would beat Fedor. Game. Set. Match. ;)
I have stated numerous times on here why Fedor would be retired by many of the UFC HW's.
Read through my posts if you need more. Trust me...it's there and I know you love reading my superb MMA knowledge.
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Weight is on suicide watch. I don't even need to post anything meaningful to this deabte, cus frankly the debate is over.
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Weight is on suicide watch. I don't even need to post anything meaningful to this deabte, cus frankly the debate is over.
So you're thowing in the towel huh?
This debate was over once all you chumps pull out the Dick N Ball talk.
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Weight is on suicide watch. I don't even need to post anything meaningful to this deabte, cus frankly the debate is over.
So you're thowing in the towel huh?
This debate was over once all you chumps pull out the Dick N Ball talk.
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I have stated numerous times on here why Fedor would be retired by many of the UFC HW's.
Read through my posts if you need more. Trust me...it's there and I know you love reading my superb MMA knowledge.
still waiting for their names and the names of the top fighters these "beasts" have beaten ::)
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Like I said, everyone in here is making weight their bitch, do I really need to do it too? Itd be the equivalent of me punching someone after they got knocked out.
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still waiting for their names and the names of the top fighters these "beasts" have beaten ::)
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Sherdog or UFC.com would be a great place to start. You should try and follow MMA a little more closely before debating with me.
Thought you knew by now. ;D :o
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Like I said, everyone in here is making weight their bitch, do I really need to do it too? Itd be the equivalent of me punching someone after they got knocked out.
Go for it chump...don't quit now.
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weight you are getting owned dude. if you cant see it you are highly delusional.
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Sherdog or UFC.com would be a great place to start. You should try and follow MMA a little more closely before debating with me.
Thought you knew by now. ;D :o
so you still can't name names ::)
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Sherdog or UFC.com would be a great place to start. You should try and follow MMA a little more closely before debating with me.
Thought you knew by now. ;D :o
Carwin and Lesnar are the best in the world just because they have wins over Frank Mir? If that's the case then Ian Freeman is definately a top 10 HW.
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Carwin and Lesnar are the best in the world just because they have wins over Frank Mir? If that's the case then Ian Freeman is definately a top 10 HW.
You are forgetting Brandon Vera too, lol.
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Carwin and Lesnar are the best in the world just because they have wins over Frank Mir? If that's the case then Ian Freeman is definately a top 10 HW.
I guess all the rankings are wrong huh?
What about the majority of all the HW rankings...they are UFC fighters.
Let me guess...It's fixed right?