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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: El Diablo Blanco on May 10, 2010, 03:59:28 PM
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I do. Do you guys take the time to separate your trash from recycling?
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I try to but it seems pointless. The whole world is going to hell anyways.
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The environment is something you care about when all your needs are seemingly met
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Separating trash is often used to be able to control burning the waste better = most of it is thrown together again anyway.
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i think i've sold out many of the morals i held as a child except for protecting mother earth
i'm not hippy but i always recycle and never litter
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I'll keep recycling until Dec 21, 2012 after that no use.
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I care to an extent because I live at the beach and hate to see it trashed but I'm not fanatical enough to cut water to the central part of california only to lose 40k in jobs for a fucking guppy!!
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The number of idiots who buy into this political issue, is staggering.
Studies have been done on recycling, showing it uses more resources, than it saves.
But, people are sheep. You tell them something enough, they'll believe it all. Isn't that what Hitler did?
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For once I agree with croach.
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All sunburn, mosquitos, ticks, poison ivy and allergies.
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I have called the local trash dept three times now for recycle bins. I even asked if i could pick them up.
I'm tempted to steal them from a neighbor. is it a crime to steal a free bucket so that i can recycle?
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The number of idiots who buy into this political issue, is staggering.
Studies have been done on recycling, showing it uses more resources, than it saves.
But, people are sheep. You tell them something enough, they'll believe it all. Isn't that what Hitler did?
Yes! People believed everything Hitler said. Good thing The Allies disagreed. :)
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I have called the local trash dept three times now for recycle bins. I even asked if i could pick them up.
I'm tempted to steal them from a neighbor. is it a crime to steal a free bucket so that i can recycle?
They live
You sleep. ;)
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every ounce of petroleum in the earth will be burnt and pumped into the atmosphere , unlike pumpster,AXA,dave, the earth will recover
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I do. Do you guys take the time to separate your trash from recycling?
yeah to a point...i love animals, and wish people would stop cutting down the fucking rainforest. as for the co2 thing, well i get a bit tired of that. If theyd stop building coal fired powerstations that churn out more co2 in an hour than i do in a decade then maybe id listen and feel bad about driving or my carbon footprint or whatever the hell else im supposed to be doing that apparently is considered evil.
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No, unless it's very close to me.
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Everyone should care about the environment and I believe the vast majority do, even republicans. The idea that a person doesn't care if there's dirty air or polluted water is hard to swallow. But like all things in life there are a trade offs. ANWAR is a place most people will never see and would care even less to go to. It's not easily accessible and is a frozen tundra replete with mosquitoes. The more oil we can produce for ourselves the less dependent we will be on helping finance those that want to kill us.
So I would oppose drilling on Coach's beach but in a god forsaken place like ANWAR. Drill, baby, drill!
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i'm not hippy
barely a child
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every ounce of petroleum in the earth will be burnt and pumped into the atmosphere , unlike pumpster,AXA,dave, the earth will recover
wrong
Projections of Future Changes
How will climate change over the 21st century? This critical question is addressed using simulations from climate models based on projections of future emissions of greenhouse gases and aerosols. The simulations suggest that, for greenhouse gas emissions at or above current rates, changes in climate will very likely be larger than the changes already observed during the 20th century. Even if emissions were immediately reduced enough to stabilize greenhouse gas concentrations at current levels, climate change would continue for centuries. This inertia in the climate results from a combination of factors. They include the heat capacity of the world’s oceans and the millennial timescales needed for the circulation to mix heat and carbon dioxide throughout the deep ocean and thereby come into equilibrium with the new conditions.
To be more specific, the models project that over the next 20 years, for a range of plausible emissions, the global temperature will increase at an average rate of about 0.2 degree C per decade, close to the observed rate over the past 30 years. About half of this near-term warming represents a “commitment” to future climate change arising from the inertia of the climate system response to current atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases.
The long-term warming over the 21st century, however, is strongly influenced by the future rate of emissions, and the projections cover a wide variety of scenarios, ranging from very rapid to more modest economic growth and from more to less dependence on fossil fuels. The best estimates of the increase in global temperatures range from 1.8 to 4.0 degrees C for the various emission scenarios, with higher emissions leading to higher temperatures. As for regional impacts, projections indicate with more confidence than ever before that these will mirror the patterns of change observed over the past 50 years (greater warming over land than ocean, for example) but that the size of the changes will be larger than they have been so far.
The simulations also suggest that the removal of excess carbon dioxide from the atmosphere by natural processes on land and in the ocean will become less efficient as the planet warms. This change leads to a higher percentage of emitted carbon dioxide remaining in the atmosphere, which then further accelerates global warming. This is an important positive feedback on the carbon cycle (the exchange of carbon compounds throughout the climate system). Although models agree that carbon-cycle changes represent a positive feedback, the range of their responses remains very large, depending, among other things, on poorly understood changes in vegetation or soil uptake of carbon as the climate warms. Such processes are an important topic of ongoing research.
The models also predict that climate change will affect the physical and chemical characteristics of the ocean. The estimates of the rise in sea level during the 21st century range from about 30 to 40 centimeters, again depending on emissions. More than 60 percent of this rise is caused by the thermal expansion of the ocean. Yet these model-based estimates do not include the possible acceleration of recently observed increases in ice loss from the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets. Although scientific understanding of such effects is very limited, they could add an additional 10 to 20 centimeters to sea-level rises, and the possibility of significantly larger rises cannot be excluded. The chemistry of the ocean is also affected, as the increased concentrations of atmospheric carbon dioxide will cause the ocean to become more acidic.
Some of the largest changes are predicted for polar regions. These include significant increases in high-latitude land temperatures and in the depth of thawing in permafrost regions and sharp reductions in the extent of summer sea ice in the Arctic basin. Lower latitudes will likely experience more heat waves, heavier precipitation, and stronger (but perhaps less frequent) hurricanes and typhoons. The extent to which hurricanes and typhoons may strengthen is uncertain and is a subject of much new research.
Some important uncertainties remain, of course. For example, the precise way in which clouds will respond as temperatures increase is a critical factor governing the overall size of the projected warming. The complexity of clouds, however, means that their response has been frustratingly difficult to pin down, and, again, much research remains to be done in this area.
We are now living in an era in which both humans and nature affect the future evolution of the earth and its inhabitants. Unfortunately, the crystal ball provided by our climate models becomes cloudier for predictions out beyond a century or so. Our limited knowledge of the response of both natural systems and human society to the growing impacts of climate change compounds our uncertainty. One result of global warming is certain, however. Plants, animals and humans will be living with the consequences of climate change for at least the next thousand years.
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I may not recycle, but I do strongly believe in not littering and keeping nature as clean as possible
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T-Bro. Stop with the cut-and-paste. ^^^ :)
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T-Bro. Stop with the cut-and-paste. ^^^ :)
are you capable of writing an article as informative on the subject?? neither am i. ;)
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"They live
You sleep. "
Are you saying I should steal the bins? They sit unguarded nightly!
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I do. Do you guys take the time to separate your trash from recycling?
not really, i do when i can...
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"They live
You sleep. "
Are you saying I should steal the bins? They sit unguarded nightly!
A minor suggestion. ;)
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are you capable of writing an article as informative on the subject?? neither am i. ;)
I am. And so are you. The point is: comprehension; (and your) synthesis; (and your) conclusion. :)
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after i steal them, how should i keep them safe from being stolen back?
Booby traps?
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Everyone should care about the environment and I believe the vast majority do, even republicans. The idea that a person doesn't care if there's dirty air or polluted water is hard to swallow. But like all things in life there are a trade offs. ANWAR is a place most people will never see and would care even less to go to. It's not easily accessible and is a frozen tundra replete with mosquitoes. The more oil we can produce for ourselves the less dependent we will be on helping finance those that want to kill us.
So I would oppose drilling on Coach's beach but in a god forsaken place like ANWAR. Drill, baby, drill!
To where it all boils down to is personal consumption of resources, and you instantly bring in some, no offence, shitty global politics.
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I am. And so are you. The point is: comprehension; (and your) synthesis; (and your) conclusion. :)
the question was not "do you have the potential if you apply yourself?"
the qquestion was "can you"
:)
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The number of idiots who buy into this political issue, is staggering.
Studies have been done on recycling, showing it uses more resources, than it saves.
But, people are sheep. You tell them something enough, they'll believe it all. Isn't that what Hitler did?
I saw a pc on this on FRONTINE. Much of the really bad stuff just get shipped to some obscure place via barge and then burned.
Most of the high tech trash with loads of lead and mercury, etc ends up in some burn pit in some distant asian dump, seriously.
The "recyclers" sell the trash to these burn pit owners in places with little enviro enforcement.
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whatever tdongz agrees with, i oppose 100%. as a matter of fact, success in life is guaranteed by doing the exact opposite of what dongz does.
with that said, yes, recycling harms the environment more than it helps it, and it was basically brought out of an early "green" movement which did nothing more than provide for a few jobs for the inner city crackheads, which incidentally cost more than just keeping them on welfare or shooting them.
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whatever tdongz agrees with, i oppose 100%. as a matter of fact, success in life is guaranteed by doing the exact opposite of what dongz does.
with that said, yes, recycling harms the environment more than it helps it, and it was basically brought out of an early "green" movement which did nothing more than provide for a few jobs for the inner city crackheads, which incidentally cost more than just keeping them on welfare or shooting them.
i feel very honored that you would make me a standard of some kind. even if its the "non standard" standard.. can you follow me around during the day so i can always have a critic to help me make better decisions???
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I do. Do you guys take the time to separate your trash from recycling?
Aluminum cans are the only things that are worth recycling. Other forms of recycling burn more energy than they save.
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this is going to get very political
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I think human trash needs to be picked up and recycled.
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/150/l_47508ba9d22a4e9f88b9095c381eb81e.jpg)
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people should care about their kids education first and foremost before caring about the air, the dolphins, the water and chinese one day, tibetan the other day, etc...
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people should care about their kids education first and foremost before caring about the air, the dolphins, the water and chinese one day, tibetan the other day, etc...
I teach science and agree with that, trust me!
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MY brother in law hikes in the High Sierra and always dives in one of those freezing lakes up there if he sees the least bit of trash ... a bottle cap, a can, anything that nature has not placed their herself.
A couple of years ago we took a very long hike along the Pacific Crest Trail without the necessary permit because of some dumb oversight on our part.
Over those five days he picked up every bit of scrap that he saw. Under lakes and under rocks even a pair of shit stained under-pants in a plastic bag.
I estimated he had about 50 pounds of trash in his additional back pack.
So on our last day out we run into one of the rangers on the trail who wants to see our permit and gives us a ration of shit because we 'ain't' got one.
So then he proceeds to write some sort of ticket thing and I pulled my bro-in-law's back pack off and open it and tell the ranger, "OK, then we're gonna but all this shit back where we found it!"
And that changed his attitude and we were thanked for our concern and told to have an enjoyable day because the remainder of our route was more beautiful than we had already seen. (We started our trek at Mammouth and came out at Tuolomne Meadows above Yosemite Valley).
During that hike a real live bear stold one of the back packs that I was using as a pillow.
We found it the following morning only to discover that we has stupidly packed a bunch of instant Quaker Oats which the bear had enjoyed for a mid-night treat.
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I teach science and agree with that, trust me!
Ditto. I believe educated people will do what is needed to prevent catastrophe, whatever that may be. That said, I do not pollute more than I have to for survival, and I recycle when I can but I don't have the bins because my bullshit red state charges for them. Maybe it is just my county?
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yes, the shack i'm currently renovating is 100 off the power grid with heated floors and low maintenance